Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on October 6, 2013 by Allahpundit

House Speaker John Boehner says he wasn’t pulled into demanding concessions from Democrats to keep funding the government – he willingly joined with fellow Republicans…

Boehner had expected that the Obamacare fight would come during the next vote to raise the debt ceiling, “but, you know, working with my members, they decided, let’s do it now,” he said. “And the fact is, this fight was going to come, one way or another. We’re in the fight. We don’t want to shut the government down. We’ve passed bills to pay the troops. We passed bills to make sure the federal employees know that they’re going to be paid throughout this.”

“You’ve never seen a more dedicated group of people who are thoroughly concerned about the future of our country,” he said of House Republicans. “It is time for us to stand and fight.”

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The congressman began with an anecdote from the Civil War. “I would liken this a little bit to Gettysburg, where a Confederate unit went looking for shoes and stumbled into Union cavalry, and all of a sudden found itself embroiled in battle on a battlefield it didn’t intend to be on, and everybody just kept feeding troops into it,” the congressman said. “That’s basically what’s happening now in a political sense. This isn’t exactly the fight I think Republicans wanted to have, certainly that the leadership wanted to have, but it’s the fight that’s here.”…

[T]he lawmaker thought Senate Democrats, and Majority Leader Harry Reid, would make some sort of concession on a lesser aspect of Obamacare. “I do think, though, when Boehner sent over delay and [repeal of the] medical device tax, I think he thought he’d probably get back medical device, and that would have probably been enough right there,” the congressman said. But Reid and the Democrats steadfastly refused to consider any change to Obamacare, surprising Republicans again. “When [Boehner] didn’t get medical device, I think he did something he didn’t want to do, which was send over the member health care [the Vitter amendment barring Congress from receiving special subsidies on the Obamacare exchanges]. And I think he did that largely because he thought [Democrats] were trying to jam him.” When Boehner lowered his demands to include a delay for just the individual mandate — not for all of Obamacare — Republicans thought Democrats would be open to that more modest proposal.

“Instead, it’s no, we’re not going to negotiate, we’re not going to negotiate, we’re not going to negotiate,” the lawmaker said. “Which means effectively you’re going to try to humiliate the Speaker in front of his conference. And how effective a negotiating partner do you think he’ll be then? You’re putting the guy in a position where he’s got nothing to lose, because you’re not giving him anything to win.”

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“Republicans have figured out a strategy, by sending rifle-shot bills to open different parts of the government, that has put Democrats into a box of saying no. By voting no repeatedly it allows Republicans an excellent messaging opportunity of painting Democrats as refusing to negotiate,” says Ron Bonjean, a top GOP strategist.

A number of Republicans who have talked to House leadership in recent days say privately they largely stumbled into the strategy, and that there is no plan for how to end the shutdown…

Kristen Soltis Anderson, a GOP pollster whose company counts Boehner as a client, agreed that the GOP’s messaging challenge is “very tough.”…

“That’s the best case for Republicans, to be saying they’ll compromise and Democrats have not. But what’s the endgame?

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“We are in the midst of a battle,” Cruz said. “Their position is untenable right now.”

Cruz, who spoke without notes for nearly an hour, said Republicans would win the shutdown fight but offered little in the way of concrete solutions.

“How do we win?” he asked. “If you trust the media, if you trust the voices in Washington, if you even trust, god forbid, some of the elected Republicans in Washington, they say we can’t win this fight. The only way to win this fight is the way we won every other fight throughout the history of the republic, which is solutions don’t come from Washington, D.C., they come from the people.”

“Career politicians in both parties have gotten us into this mess,” he said. “But it’s going to be the American people who get us out.”

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Backstage, a source said, Cuccinelli urged Cruz to work with Democrats to end the federal shutdown. But he did not make that point, or even acknowledge Cruz, in short public comments to some 1,100 social conservatives.

Cruz has become the face of GOP intransigence, and the conservative attorney general’s effort to distance himself from congressional Republicans reflects how damaging Cuccinelli realizes a prolonged shutdown may be for his campaign…

After Cuccinelli finished [his remarks], a pastor from Williamsburg named Mark Morrow praised Cruz for being willing to shut down the government and said many now see him as the most powerful man in the capitol.

“It’s about time that someone in Washington abandons the faulty notion that compromise is the best way to win,” he said.

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The government shutdown did not happen by accident. It is the latest manifestation — an extreme one by any measure — of divisions long in the making and now deeply embedded in the country’s politics

[I]t also could be a new normal, as confrontation remains commonplace and true compromise rare. Meanwhile, the ideological, cultural and political differences that led to this moment of extreme governmental dysfunction are almost certain to shape elections and legislative battles in the near term…

Some may rightly blame politicians in Washington for behaving badly, but in reality the clashes in the nation’s capital reflect conflicting attitudes and values held by politically active, rank-and-file Republicans and Democrats across the country. Add to that a faction of conservatives in the House who are determined to disrupt business as usual and the current stalemate in Congress becomes almost unavoidable.

The bonds that once helped produce political consensus have gradually eroded, replaced by competing camps that live in parallel universes, have sharply divergent world views and express more distrust of opponents than they did decades ago. Many activists describe the stakes in apocalyptic terms…

“I don’t really see a way out of it in the very short term,” said Alan Abramowitz, a political scientist at Emory University who has written extensively on polarization. “We’re stuck in it. There was a time when it was possible for the parties to work together, because the divide between them was much smaller. Now we’ve gotten to the point where it’s almost impossible.”

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[Bareknuckle] campaigning has its advantages, as none other than Bill Clinton and Barack Obama (and, yes, George W. Bush) can attest. But winning that way makes governing more difficult.

For starters, those on the losing end aren’t inclined to work in harmony with a president (or a political party) who won in this fashion. Such suspicion can be overcome, as Clinton showed on NAFTA, but only when oiled with the dual lubricants of bipartisanship and compromise—and that’s important: NAFTA was the signature domestic policy initiative of Bill Clinton’s first term. The Affordable Care Act was Obama’s.

That’s a big difference, but there’s an even more fundamental consequence of bare-knuckles campaigning: It’s addictive. Obama won the presidency in 2008 with an aspirational appeal. To retain the presidency, however, he and his lieutenants ran a low and mean-spirited campaign that sought to make Mitt Romney seem an unfit human being, while delegitimizing his political party.

This approach has inevitably spilled over into governing. I understand that the president is frustrated about Republicans’ refusals to fund Obamacare. I share his dissatisfaction. But I also believe a president is obliged by custom, law, and the U.S. Constitution to try and make the best of things. Instead, it seems his administration has tried to make matters worse.

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The shutdown isn’t a new story. It’s the same story as the demise of sensible gun control legislation, even after Newtown, which was supposed to change everything. It’s the same story as the stalling of immigration reform. It’s all one cancer, sprouting tumors of various sizes. The mass we’ve been staring at over the past week just happens to be bigger and uglier than the ones we beheld in the buildup.

Our federal government doesn’t work, at least not the Congress, not the way it should if we’re going to preserve and pass on the treasure and blessings that were bequeathed to us, not the way it should if we’re going to strut around ceaselessly congratulating ourselves on how exceptional we are. We’re exceptional all right, in that we can’t summon the will, discipline or character to fix even those problems that most of us would like to see addressed. How many Americans doubt that our infrastructure is inadequate and leaves us at a serious global disadvantage? Few, but for all our hand-wringing, little gets done…

Because the system’s the problem. The system’s the illness. We justly congratulate ourselves on what the framers of our Constitution set up, but that doesn’t mean we’re set forevermore. It definitely doesn’t mean we’re in a healthy place now. And I worry that on top of everything else, we’re growing so accustomed to our sickly lot that we’re losing sight of its direness. For all our recurrent brinkmanship, we haven’t tumbled into any abyss. So as we find ourselves on the next cliff, in the next crisis, we trust that John Boehner will snap into action at the last minute; that Democrats will eventually cave; that this, too, shall pass.

It might, because it’s just a symptom. The disease, though, doesn’t go away.

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He’s looking to the Obama White House to help start the reset: “I would ask them to start saying, ‘I understand that the people on the other side of the table have the best interests of the American people at heart.’ Simply recognize that. Everybody wants to do what’s best for the American public. Those sorts of statements repeated on a regular basis, it’s the start of dialogue. It’s not concession; it’s the beginning of dialogue.”…

But how to do you deal with the hyper-partisan congressional bomb-throwers? “Well it’s like a game of tic-tac-toe with the tantrum throwers,” Voss says. “In tic-tac-toe, if you’re going second, the best you can possibly do is tie—if you play the game. There’s a first-mover advantage. The minute you stop playing that game the first mover advantage goes away. So you don’t play their game at all. That’s the way you respond.”…

But Voss doesn’t believe President Obama is blameless in the current situation. “I see him using a lot of emotional terms as well and that’s never a good sign. The essence of what he’s saying is finger pointing. When you refuse to talk, then you have blinders on…and it happens to be typical thinking of someone who either doesn’t talk at all or completely gives in.” That’s is a decent distillation of Beltway conventional wisdom criticism of President Obama’s negotiating style to date.

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Asked by Stephanopoulos whether that no negotiations means the country will default on its debt, Boehner responded: “That’s the path we’re on. Listen, the president canceled his trip to Asia. I assumed, well, maybe he wants to have a conversation. I decided to stay here in Washington this weekend. He knows what my phone number is. All he has to do is call.”

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Via the Corner.

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kingsjester on October 7, 2013 at 6:43 AM

Morning KJ…

Read it folks!

cmsinaz on October 7, 2013 at 6:46 AM

cmsinaz on October 7, 2013 at 6:41 AM

joe went on to point out that just like Palin, Cruz is now being shunned by moderate republicans like Ken Cucinelli.

mika flat out called his interview with candy crowley a pack of lies.

renalin on October 7, 2013 at 6:46 AM

renalin on October 7, 2013 at 6:46 AM

scared methinks….

i thought he did an awesome job against candy yesterday…

cmsinaz on October 7, 2013 at 6:47 AM

Unfortunately I am temporarily blocked from following any more people until I get more followers.

http://www.twitter.com/bluegill4ever

bluegill on October 7, 2013 at 6:31 AM

*sigh*

Um.

*cough*

1. Sign up for “JustUnfollow” (Google) (or similar). 2. Stay within the 25 limit, and you won’t be sending annoying spam about your stats. 3. Sort your non-followers, people you are following but who are not following you, from oldest to newest – you’ll see. 4. Nuke the oldest 25 who aren’t divas, names that will never follow you back but that you want to keep following. 5. Follow 25 new peeps whose followed/following ratio is about 1:1 — peeps that follow back. 6. Repeat.

. . . must . . . wash hands.

Axe on October 7, 2013 at 6:49 AM

– The Presidential Oath of Office. My take: “The Shutdown: The Tyranny of a Presidential Temper Tantrum”

kingsjester on October 7, 2013 at 6:43 AM

Question of the week as we inch closer to the debt ceiling…… At what point does the lazy stupid coward, Harry Reid, and Nancy Pelosi start negotiating, even if they don’t call it that? The House has passed funding bill after funding bill only to have them be thrown into the trash heap in Reid’s office. I think the “miraculous” re-interpretation of the language of the law to pay our troops (that now allows 400K federal employees to return to work) was an admission that shutdown theater did not have the impact that the Dems were hoping. In fact, the whole memorial Barry-cading has backfired with a vengence.

We have a representative democracy not a dictatorship. Somebody should remind the White House of that.

Happy Nomad on October 7, 2013 at 7:02 AM

joe went on to point out that just like Palin, Cruz is now being shunned by moderate republicans like Ken Cucinelli.

renalin on October 7, 2013 at 6:46 AM

That isn’t true. Ted Cruz was just in VA campaigning for Ken. Terry McAuliffe tried to make an issue of it but I don’t think it will leave a mark. Besides, Ted Cruz can’t do anything about the shutdown at this point because the Senate refuses to do anything to bring it to an end.

Happy Nomad on October 7, 2013 at 7:05 AM

Happy Nomad on October 7, 2013 at 7:05 AM

apparently Cucinelli went out of his way not to be photographed with Ted.
Ted praised Ken, but Ken didn’t even mention his name.

renalin on October 7, 2013 at 7:11 AM

Boy what’s with the Moanin’ Schmoe crew? Valerie Jarrett this morning must have used a whip!
Schmoe, you are simply awful to the point of comedy. “Our Ambassadors email me and say……”
No no no! It’s “Whenever I’m going through the airport, hundreds of Ambassadors run up to me and say…”

Marcus on October 7, 2013 at 7:12 AM

if you call Tom Coburn a RINO, then joe schmoe wants you out of his party, away from his person, in another zip code.

renalin on October 7, 2013 at 7:18 AM

Boy what’s with the Moanin’ Schmoe crew? Valerie Jarrett this morning must have used a whip!
Schmoe, you are simply awful to the point of comedy. “Our Ambassadors email me and say……”
No no no! It’s “Whenever I’m going through the airport, hundreds of Ambassadors run up to me and say…”

Marcus on October 7, 2013 at 7:12 AM

The recall of nearly half the furloughed civilians today, IMO, is an admission that the shutdown isn’t working out the way that the lazy stupid coward and his party had hoped when they engineered it. They will back off the no negotiating with a gun to our heads stance by the end of the week.

As to Schmoe, he has an 86% rating of the conservative union. It’s from 13 years ago before he suddenly and mysteriously left Congress just after a woman was found dead in his office but nevertheless, do not question his conservative creds! ;0

Happy Nomad on October 7, 2013 at 7:24 AM

I guarantee as histrionic as that segment of Moanin’ Schmoe was, that the polls much be awful for the Administration. I’m barely following, but I’d predict the US public couldn’t care less about it.

Marcus on October 7, 2013 at 7:25 AM

if you call Tom Coburn a RINO, then joe schmoe wants you out of his party, away from his person, in another zip code.

renalin on October 7, 2013 at 7:18 AM

Joe’s party, the Democrats, call Coburn a lot worse than RINO. And I’m willing to bet that a lot of Oklahomans are calling Coburn worse than RINO right now too.

Happy Nomad on October 7, 2013 at 7:26 AM

Marcus on October 7, 2013 at 7:12 AM

he’s gotta be BOMC doncha know…
it’s really pathetic…

renalin on October 7, 2013 at 7:18 AM

its a daily thing with him…he’s gotta say coburn, walker and krauthammer and make sure you all know that he is a conservative

cmsinaz on October 7, 2013 at 7:26 AM

cmsinaz on October 7, 2013 at 7:26 AM

so what you’re telling me is I haven’t missed much:)

renalin on October 7, 2013 at 7:34 AM

renalin on October 7, 2013 at 7:34 AM

yup

SSDD :)

welcome back!

cmsinaz on October 7, 2013 at 7:36 AM

Click on my screen name to get to my Twitter profile. The 1000th person to follow me gets a special prize.

Unfortunately I am temporarily blocked from following any more people until I get more followers.

bluegill on October 7, 2013 at 6:31 AM

Are you able to go even one morning without slinging your poo?

blueball on October 7, 2013 at 6:38 AM

…is it a pooh catcher?

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2013 at 7:40 AM

– The Presidential Oath of Office. My take: “The Shutdown: The Tyranny of a Presidential Temper Tantrum”

kingsjester on October 7, 2013 at 6:43 AM

….and then there’s days…you top…yourself!

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2013 at 7:43 AM

E.J Dionne thinks the Tea Party killed itself.

We now know that the tea party is primarily about postures aimed at undercutting sensible governance and premised on the delusion that Obama’s election victories were meaningless. Its leaders abandon these postures as soon as their adversaries stand strong and the poll-testers report their approach is failing. This will give pause to anyone ever again tempted to follow them into a cul-de-sac.

Dionne is an idiot. I’m sick and tired of liberals (an outright commie in the case of Dionne) thinking that they understand the right and have the right to lecture Republicans about what they should and shouldn’t do.

Happy Nomad on October 7, 2013 at 7:56 AM

i thought he did an awesome job against candy yesterday…

cmsinaz on October 7, 2013 at 6:47 AM

…I actually found it…and watched!
…you guys are right…it’s a cow with a wig…and it moo’s!

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2013 at 8:00 AM

joe went on to point out that just like Palin, Cruz is now being shunned by moderate republicans like Ken Cucinelli.

renalin on October 7, 2013 at 6:46 AM

the fact that you think that Cuccinelli is moderate speaks volumes about the Tea Party’s long, slow decline.

You have become the fringe. Except for John Boehner, the weakest House Speaker in history, no one pays attention to them at all. Even Cuccinelli doesn’t want to be seen with an egotistical nihilist blowhard like Cruz.

urban elitist on October 7, 2013 at 8:09 AM

egotistical nihilist blowhard like Cruz JugEars.

urban elitist on October 7, 2013 at 8:09 AM

…wiped…your drool for you!

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2013 at 8:16 AM

urban elitist on October 7, 2013 at 8:09 AM

…you’re needed on the new thread…there’s an Amber Alert out for you!

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2013 at 8:18 AM

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2013 at 8:16 AM

Must burn you that Cruz’s own colleagues are abandoning and avoiding him in droves, while Obama is able to hold his troops in line.

urban elitist on October 7, 2013 at 8:20 AM

…something is burning…and it ain’t me!

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2013 at 8:26 AM

egotistical nihilist blowhard like Cruz JugEars.

urban elitist on October 7, 2013 at 8:09 AM

…wiped…your drool for you!

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2013 at 8:16 AM

UE believes that President Choom has never told a lie, has never verbally abused anyone, has never played political games, and is a good debater who can make arguments that don’t revolve around belittling people who disagree with him. Isn’t that right, UE? lol

Anti-Control on October 7, 2013 at 8:34 AM

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2013 at 7:43 AM

Thank you!

kingsjester on October 7, 2013 at 8:45 AM

Even Cuccinelli doesn’t want to be seen with an egotistical nihilist blowhard like Cruz.

urban elitist on October 7, 2013 at 8:09 AM

Wow. OK, cool — target laser-marked. It’s obviously Cruz we want.

Axe on October 7, 2013 at 8:57 AM

UE believes that President Choom has never told a lie, has never verbally abused anyone, has never played political games, and is a good debater who can make arguments that don’t revolve around belittling people who disagree with him. Isn’t that right, UE? lol

Anti-Control on October 7, 2013 at 8:34 AM

I believe that our president actually understands America and the plight of middle class Americans, and has a strategy that will help both those individuals and our nation as a whole grow stronger.

I believe that Ted Cruz actually understands the position of Ted Cruz and has a strategy to help Ted Cruz raise money and run for national office.

I believe the tea party are a bunch of old bitter people who want to be give power by virtue of their position as privileged members of society and can’t handle the fact that by refusing to change as the world has changed, they’ve become politically and economically irrelevant.

urban elitist on October 7, 2013 at 9:00 AM

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2013 at 7:43 AM

Thank you!

kingsjester on October 7, 2013 at 8:45 AM

Really. That was excellent.

Axe on October 7, 2013 at 9:02 AM

I believe that our president actually understands America and the plight of middle class Americans, and has a strategy that will help both those individuals and our nation as a whole grow stronger.

I believe that Ted Cruz actually understands the position of Ted Cruz and has a strategy to help Ted Cruz raise money and run for national office.

I believe the tea party are a bunch of old bitter people who want to be give power by virtue of their position as privileged members of society and can’t handle the fact that by refusing to change as the world has changed, they’ve become politically and economically irrelevant.

urban elitist on October 7, 2013 at 9:00 AM

These things are what you believe the strongest: President Choom has never told a lie; President Choom has never verbally abused anyone; President Choom has never played political games; President Choom is a good debater who can make arguments that don’t revolve around belittling people who disagree with him.

If you deny it, I’ll just call you a liar. :)

Anti-Control on October 7, 2013 at 9:05 AM

Axe on October 7, 2013 at 9:02 AM

Greatly appreciated, my friend.

kingsjester on October 7, 2013 at 9:11 AM

I’m sick and tired of liberals (an outright commie in the case of Dionne) thinking that they understand the right and have the right to lecture Republicans about what they should and shouldn’t do.

Happy Nomad on October 7, 2013 at 7:56

AM

Bingo! They project their deepest darkest fears on us. The sad thing is they also believe the nonsense they are making up.

Fallon on October 7, 2013 at 9:12 AM

Wow.

AM

got its own line… lol.

More coffee!

Oh, and Apple Cider doughnuts today in the Gulch!

Fallon on October 7, 2013 at 9:13 AM

kingsjester on October 7, 2013 at 6:43 AM

Yup. Great take.

Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

It’s like they knew Obama, lol.

Fallon on October 7, 2013 at 9:17 AM

These things are what you believe the strongest: President Choom has never told a lie; President Choom has never verbally abused anyone; President Choom has never played political games; President Choom is a good debater who can make arguments that don’t revolve around belittling people who disagree with him.

If you deny it, I’ll just call you a liar. :)

Anti-Control on October 7, 2013 at 9:05 AM

I’ve been called a lot worse, here.

I have few illusions about women, politics or the Washington Redskins these days. But I do have a deep affection for all three.

urban elitist on October 7, 2013 at 9:18 AM

I’ve been called a lot worse, here.

I have few illusions about women, politics or the Washington Redskins these days. But I do have a deep affection for all three.

urban elitist on October 7, 2013 at 9:18 AM

Are you willing to talk about Obama’s flaws as a human being & politician as easily as you do Cruz’s? I don’t believe you are; I say, you’re a coward who suffers from confirmation bias and blatant partisanship.

Do you believe you have the ability to prove me wrong, in a way that doesn’t involve attacking me? :)

Anti-Control on October 7, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Axe on October 7, 2013 at 6:49 AM

Axe, that was a very nice thing to do.

Solaratov on October 7, 2013 at 10:10 AM

I believe the bull hockey that our president actually understands America and the plight of middle class Americans, and has a strategy that will help both those individuals and our nation as a whole grow stronger.

I believe the lies that Ted Cruz actually understands the position of Ted Cruz and has a strategy to help Ted Cruz raise money and run for national office.

I believe utter garbage the tea party are a bunch of old bitter people who want to be give power by virtue of their position as privileged members of society and can’t handle the fact that by refusing to change as the world has changed, they’ve become politically and economically irrelevant.

urban elitist on October 7, 2013 at 9:00 AM

Of course you believe all that…but then, you’re an easily-led, leftist tool who has wet dreams about fellating pResnit choom.

Solaratov on October 7, 2013 at 10:47 AM

Obama is able to hold his troops in line.

urban effetist on October 7, 2013 at 8:20 AM

So did Chairman Mao.

F-

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2013 at 11:13 AM

I believe that our president actually understands America and the plight of middle class Americans

-snip-

I believe the tea party are a bunch of old bitter people

urban effetist on October 7, 2013 at 9:00 AM

No, he was taught from a very young age that Americas is Evil. Just ask his wife.

As for “bitter old people”, your Democrat Party is now officially The Party of Old Bitter Women. Dianne Feinstein is 80, Bela Pelosi and Babs Boxer are both 73, and Hillary and Wampum Warren from MA are both nearly 70 years old.

And as for your Democrat Men, Senate Majority Leader Hairless Reid is nearly 75. And in the past few years, you had a Democrat Senator (also a former KKK member) die in office in his 90s, and another one in his late 80s died in office last year.

F-

Del Dolemonte on October 7, 2013 at 11:18 AM

pambi, I’ll continue our conversation now. :)

That really is a toughy question, since I believe that the ‘pearls’ have nothing to do with this ‘practical level’, whatsoever. I interpret the ‘pearls’ as being His Wisdom, and casting ‘those’ before those without ears to hear is worthless.

Jesus mentioned dogs and pigs in that verse – you don’t believe he literally meant dogs and pigs, do you? The verse didn’t say to be protective of “His pearls [of wisdom],” it said, “your pearls.” Could you offer a specific example of what you believe He was getting at? Do you not believe that being merciful towards others is a gift to them, a kind of pearl to which that verse would pertain?

Do you believe Christians are called to be passive doormats to abusive people? Do you believe God expects us to be equally merciful to everyone? If not, how do you go about determining who’s worthy of your mercy, and who isn’t?

Praps I don’t grasp the question precisely, so please grant me grace on this one. ;-)

pambi on October 6, 2013 at 11:23 PM

No worries, I am not an impatient nor ungracious person like that! :)

Anti-Control on October 7, 2013 at 6:14 PM

The only reason anybody supports Obama’s demands for more taxes and spending is because they don’t believe they will ever have to pay for them. That includes people like Harry Reid and others who are willing to pass the burden to future generations, fools who rationalize by saying the debt is a fiction and people who have come to believe that living off the work of others is their right. The poor pay no taxes and don’t view the debt as their obligation as long as they are content with government payments, government housing and food stamps.
Those who are poor because they are disabled, old or otherwise unfortunate, should be helped by the rest of us. But it cannot be guaranteed by government without corrupting our entire system and destroying the economy.

flataffect on October 7, 2013 at 8:56 PM

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