NFL Week 5 open thread

posted at 12:31 pm on October 6, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

First, the good news: I can confidently predict that the Pittsburgh Steelers won’t lose today. The bad news: They’re not going to win, either. The Steelers got an early bye in week 5, and they may be the team most in need of it.  They’re one of two 0-fer teams in this week’s byes (Tampa Bay being the other), and that gives them a week off to look hard at the New York Jets, who got trounced by Tennessee last Sunday.  That will be the Ed & Jazz Bowl, but don’t expect any halftime entertainment, unless you find mutual commiseration to be entertaining.

Also on a bye this week – Minnesota Vikings, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and the Washington Barrycaders.

Last week my sad season of predictions continued on course, with a 3-4 slate last week and an overall 11-15 record. I’m getting as desperate for a good week as Pittsburgh, so let’s see if I get a bye from losing today (all times ET):

  • Saints at Bears (1 pm, Fox) – The Saints are back, but Da Bears has won both of their home games and are coming off of a tough loss in Detroit. The big difference in this game will be New Orleans second-rated passing attack against Chicago’s 23rd-ranked pass defense. Saints 27-21 over Chicago.
  • Lions at Packers (1 pm, Fox) – Green Bay just got its bye week, and the Lions just came off that emotional win against Chicago.  Stafford and the Lions will play the Pack tough, but expect Aaron Rodgers and his offense to come out roaring. Packers 31-27 over the Lions.
  • Seahawks at Colts (1 pm, Fox) – Indy’s put up a quiet 3-1 record, but I’m not going to pick against the Seahawks until they lose.  Expect a squeaker, though, and maybe a second straight OT for Seattle, but a 27-24 win in the end.
  • Chiefs at Titans (1 pm, CBS) – Can you believe that Andy Reid has Kansas City at 4-0? Looks like Reid wasn’t the problem in Philly, or at least not most of it.  They play the 3-1 Titans in Tennessee, who just beat the Jets. KC has been doing it on pass defense, but they’re 25th against the rush, which is a relative strength for Tennessee. I’ll pick the Titans in an upset, 23-17.
  • Broncos at Cowboys (4:25, CBS) – Do Cowboys bust Broncos? Everywhere but in the 2013 NFL season, when the biggest Bronco of them all is Peyton Manning.  Denver’s only real weakness is their pass defense, which is second-to-last in the league. Unfortunately, Dallas is only 20th in passing offense, and their passing defense is … 27th. The Cowboys are 2-2 and playing at home, but they’ve only beaten the 0-4 Giants and the 1-3 Rams. Denver in a romp, 42-20.
  • Texans at 49ers (8:30 pm, NBC) – Both of these teams looked tougher at the beginning of the season, but have struggled since.  Colin Kaepernick’s passing game has been derailed, and Houston has the best pass defense in the league.  SF will have to make it on the ground, but Houston has a more balanced attack, and they’ve beaten stronger competition. The Texans win an upset on the road, 28-24.
  • Jets at Falcons (MNF, ESPN) - I picked both of these teams to win last week, and both flopped. The line has Atlanta by double digits, but that is hard to square with past performance. The Falcons have only beaten the Rams, while the Jets at least beat the mediocre Bills. This is going to be a closer game than the line, I think, and the Jets defense might be the difference. I’ll pick the Jets in a 16-10 upset.

 

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Knock, knock.

Who’s there?

Owen.

Owen who?

0 and 4!

Go Jags and Giants!

Hot Gas on October 6, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Bears, Packers, Colts, Chiefs, Broncos, 49ers, Falcons.

22044 on October 6, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Bye week, Redskins Fans !!!!!

ExpressoBold on October 6, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Vikings won’t lose either – yeah!

gophergirl on October 6, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Go Pats!

dogsoldier on October 6, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Ed has more confidence than I do in the Monday night game.

Jazz Shaw on October 6, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Denver in a romp, 42-20.

Hope so. Get ‘em Peyton!

And go Cincinnati. I’ll be watching the Presidents Cup and rooting for Richard Sterne, a guy I hadn’t heard of three days ago… ah, rooting for the enemy of my enemy – so fitting for an American political blog.

Gingotts on October 6, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Go Chiefs!

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 12:50 PM

I’m playing in a standard 8-team Fantasy Football league at my office for the first time and its a blast. Here’s what my roster is looking like this week:

QB – Drew Brees
RB – Frank Gore
RB – Marshawn Lynch
WR – Eric Decker
WR – Torrey Smith
WR – Denarius Moore
TE – Tony Gonzalez
FLEX – Eddie Lacy
D/ST – St. Louis Rams
K – Matt Bryant

Anyone else here play, and what does your team look like?

Lawdawg86 on October 6, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Gingotts on October 6, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Been watching Jordan Spieth.

KCB on October 6, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Been watching Jordan Spieth.

KCB on October 6, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Spieth is great fun to watch. Lot of people on Twitter wanted him matched against Matsuyama in the singles, but I like the pairing vs. DeLaet. Both guys are about at the same place in their game, though DeLaet more quietly consistent where Spieth has been getting the much deserved hype.

Gingotts on October 6, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Hot Gas on October 6, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Owen 4, lol. Be nice to Ed, it’s not like this is day job or anything.

Can you believe that Andy Reid has Kansas City at 4-0?

No I can’t, and that’s because it’s Alex Smith who has them at 4-0; Reid is still the mediocre HC he’s always been.

abobo on October 6, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Watching that State Farm commercial. It would be cool to grill meat on an airplane, lol!

22044 on October 6, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Gingotts on October 6, 2013 at 12:55 PM

He’s young. He’s a very good addition to American golf.

KCB on October 6, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Ed has more confidence than I do in the Monday night game.

Jazz Shaw on October 6, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Ditto that.

My expectations are pretty low…so I won’t be too disappointed.

JetBoy on October 6, 2013 at 1:03 PM

NFL Related news, Armed Forces Network shutdown on football Sunday due to Obama’s temper tantrum.

Meople on October 6, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Steelers 49 – Enemy 3

Bishop on October 6, 2013 at 1:04 PM

“Honestly, there is no way I would’ve been able to make it to the game anyway. I was taking care of my grandmother, who is 87,” he reportedly said.

“She requires a bit of care and there’s always stuff to do around the house, and I got to make sure she gets her medicine and that I get it to her on time and you know, just take care of everything.”

“When you strip all that stuff down, in the end, what he did for our country is much bigger than school colors or if he roots for the Aggies and we root for the Lobos. It’s much bigger than that.”

In response, Zajac told the station he was honored by the donation – but that he would give half the money to the Fisher House Foundation, a group that supports military families for which he once volunteered.

As for New Mexico State and the University of New Mexico – the two played Saturday and UNM won 66-17.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/10/06/iraq-war-veteran-denied-university-lottery-win-so-rival-school-pays-up/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fnational+%28Internal+-+US+Latest+-+Text%29

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Saints always struggle at Soldier Field, but that’s usually due to them playing there in the winter. They should do a little better today.

Del Dolemonte on October 6, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Owen 4, lol. Be nice to Ed, it’s not like this is day job or anything.

abobo on October 6, 2013 at 12:56 PM

I kid because I love.

Hot Gas on October 6, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Spieth is great fun to watch. Lot of people on Twitter wanted him matched against Matsuyama in the singles, but I like the pairing vs. DeLaet. Both guys are about at the same place in their game, though DeLaet more quietly consistent where Spieth has been getting the much deserved hype.

Gingotts on October 6, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Speith’s the best Captain’s Pick in President’s Cup or Ryder’s Cup, for that matter, in years. Expect to see him win a major next year.

TXUS on October 6, 2013 at 1:12 PM

He’s young. He’s a very good addition to American golf.

KCB on October 6, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Indeed, and much needed. I really hope he can keep the hype going, and that the other young talent – Fowler, Tringale, Woodland, Castro – can also build their careers into becoming strong headliners.

The American golf media really should play more to the marketable younger talent like those guys. Right now it is too centered around one man, despite the other strong talent of his generation. Love him or hate him, Tiger is almost 38 and often injured; Mickelson healthier and still performing well but even older. Kuchar has been a beast during this Presidents cup, but his playing partner has received the headlines… Really the most frustrating part of watching golf for me at least.

Gingotts on October 6, 2013 at 1:13 PM

In the President’s Cup, USA now needs only 2.5 wins and International needs 8.5, with 10 left to play.
Go Team USA!

TXUS on October 6, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Speith’s the best Captain’s Pick in President’s Cup or Ryder’s Cup, for that matter, in years. Expect to see him win a major next year.

TXUS on October 6, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Agreed, he’s on a good path. I expected Spieth and Furyk to be Fred’s picks – a mix of veteran experience and young momentum. Wasn’t too surprised by Simpson instead, but Spieth was no question. I’d be thrilled to see him take a major next year, and not all that surprised.

Gingotts on October 6, 2013 at 1:18 PM

I like Kuchar a lot. Phil is always a quality guy.But there are a lot of young guns out there!

KCB on October 6, 2013 at 1:22 PM

What?

No pics of cheerleaders with tight butts, long legs and rock’n racks?

Forget the half wits on the field, focus on the babes on the sidelines!

I am outta here!

Bubba Redneck on October 6, 2013 at 1:23 PM

KCB on October 6, 2013 at 1:22 PM

I do hope Kuch can get his major sometime in his career. As solid as he’s been he’s past due for the type of season Adam Scott had this year. Then again, the ultimate breakthrough didn’t come quickly for Adam either.

Gingotts on October 6, 2013 at 1:26 PM

Go Texans!

cartooner on October 6, 2013 at 1:27 PM

I think they should re-name the President’s Cup to the “Hostage-takers” Cup.

Who could have predicted after five games, the Cleveland Browns would be atop the AFC-North?
Or, that the Kansas City Chiefs would still be undefeated?

Speaking of golf, did anyone notice Obama’s military golf course has been left off the shutdown/closure list, while an elderly couple have been evicted from their Lake Mead home, (only because it’s on federal property)?

If Frank Gore can repeat his performance from last week, (153 yards on 20 carries), the Texans, (ranked 23rd against the run), might be in trouble again. After scoring 20 points in the second quarter against the Seahawks last week, they were shut out for the remainder of the game. The 49er defense appears to be finally stiffening up against the pass, (ranked 3rd overall), so if the Texans running game falters, it could be a long day. 49ers 28, Texans 17.

Rovin on October 6, 2013 at 1:29 PM

In the President’s Cup, USA now needs only 2.5 wins and International needs 8.5, with 10 left to play.
Go Team USA!

TXUS on October 6, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Didn’t the US rally from numbers similar to that in the Ryder cup a few years back?

gophergirl on October 6, 2013 at 1:31 PM

In the President’s Cup, USA now needs only 2.5 wins and International needs 8.5, with 10 left to play.
Go Team USA!

TXUS on October 6, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Didn’t the US rally from numbers similar to that in the Ryder cup a few years back?

gophergirl on October 6, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Actually last year the European team pulled off a rally about that big. I’ve never seen Poulter so pumped.

And in general be careful with the updates. For some jackarse reason Never Broadcast Currently has it on tape delay rather than bumping cartoons to start it at 10 this morning. Don’t know why those idiots think this is still the early ’90s and that’s a good way to broadcast sports, but could be spoilers for anybody who isn’t following online nevertheless…

Gingotts on October 6, 2013 at 1:36 PM

And in general be careful with the updates. For some jackarse reason Never Broadcast Currently has it on tape delay rather than bumping cartoons to start it at 10 this morning. Don’t know why those idiots think this is still the early ’90s and that’s a good way to broadcast sports, but could be spoilers for anybody who isn’t following online nevertheless…

Gingotts on October 6, 2013 at 1:36 PM

I know. Stupid. not like they are playing in S Africa. They are in OIHO for Pete’s sake.

KCB on October 6, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Just saw a Bad Lip Reading NFL commercial for McNuggets or some other chicken product – Hilarious!

ExpressoBold on October 6, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Go Pack!!!

Bmore on October 6, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Actually last year the European team pulled off a rally about that big. I’ve never seen Poulter so pumped.

And in general be careful with the updates. For some jackarse reason Never Broadcast Currently has it on tape delay rather than bumping cartoons to start it at 10 this morning. Don’t know why those idiots think this is still the early ’90s and that’s a good way to broadcast sports, but could be spoilers for anybody who isn’t following online nevertheless…

Gingotts on October 6, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Yes, the Euros won 8 of 12 matches in the Ryder’s Cup Singles, a feat that no one expected. Here, however, the International team would have to win 9.5 of 12, an almost impossible challenge.

Point well made about the tape delay and NBC’s foolish decision not to go live, and the spoilers.

TXUS on October 6, 2013 at 1:53 PM

The Kansasa City Chiefs must change their name to the Kansas City Squaw Women to support the indigenous women of North America.

SparkPlug on October 6, 2013 at 1:56 PM

The Washington Redskins must change their name to the Washington Pinkskins to help bring awareness to lady parts.

SparkPlug on October 6, 2013 at 1:57 PM

The Washington Redskins must change their name to the Washington Pinkskins to help bring awareness to lady parts.

SparkPlug on October 6, 2013 at 1:57 PM

Laughing my man parts off!!!

TXUS on October 6, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Go Steelers!!!

CWchangedhisNicagain on October 6, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Go Pack!!!

Bmore on October 6, 2013 at 1:52 PM

…the Lions don’t have Calvin Johnson…we don’t have a chance to break the winless spell…since 1991?

KOOLAID2 on October 6, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Go Chiefs!

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Don’t say that too loud or Captain Kickass will be going out after the Chiefs the way he took out after the REDSKINS.

Happy Nomad on October 6, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Ed picked the Jets over the Falcons? Really, Ed? Who supstituted Ed’s regular glasses with the rose colored variety?

simkeith on October 6, 2013 at 2:39 PM

SparkPlug on October 6, 2013 at 1:57 PM

http://www.themorlockrevolt.com/2013/08/liberals-rename-all-32-nfl-teams.html

davidk on October 6, 2013 at 2:48 PM

When it’s going well for your team, it seems that someone new steps up each game to make great plays. The Bears just lost their 2nd straight because everyone worked together to fuc* it up.

Earl Bennett — the one receiver we have who is regarded as sure-handed — drops passes on 3rd and 4th down deep in Saints territory to squander one drive. Jay once again fumbles on his own five yard line. The defense once again makes some indifferent running back look like Adrian Peterson. The pass rush … what pass rush?

Not our year.

Jaibones on October 6, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Saints 27-21 over Chicago.

Pretty good call, Ed.

Jaibones on October 6, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Boys ride Broncos for 7.

Giddy up

BobMbx on October 6, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Whoa Nelly…..14-0

BobMbx on October 6, 2013 at 4:57 PM

Ed picked the Jets over the Falcons? Really, Ed? Who supstituted Ed’s regular glasses with the rose colored variety?

simkeith on October 6, 2013 at 2:39 PM

Steelers were off.

Ronnie on October 6, 2013 at 4:59 PM

NFL Related news, Armed Forces Network shutdown on football Sunday due to Obama’s temper tantrum.

Meople on October 6, 2013 at 1:04 PM

I heard it’s been off since the shutdown. I’ll bet the radio and internet is off too and probably the phones.

Zero hates soldiers and their families.

dogsoldier on October 6, 2013 at 5:33 PM

BDSers rejoice! The Bengals (or as the esteemed Dan Dierdorf called them at one point, “The Bengalers”) ended Tom Brady’s TD streak and only allowed 2 FG to the Brady Kids. At least it’s a non-conference game.

But congrats to the New Orleans Saints, who went into Chicago and won at Soldiers Field for the first time in 13 years. Best conference record in the NFL.

Del Dolemonte on October 6, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Sorry forgot to add, the Pats lost. The defense did pretty well despite the absence of Wilfork. The offense played poorly.

dogsoldier on October 6, 2013 at 5:35 PM

BDSers rejoice! The Bengals (or as the esteemed Dan Dierdorf called them at one point, “The Bengalers”) ended Tom Brady’s TD streak and only allowed 2 FG to the Brady Kids. At least it’s a non-conference game.

But congrats to the New Orleans Saints, who went into Chicago and won at Soldiers Field for the first time in 13 years. Best conference record in the NFL.

Del Dolemonte on October 6, 2013 at 5:35 PM

FIFM.

F-

Del Dolemonte on October 6, 2013 at 5:35 PM

BobMbx on October 6, 2013 at 4:57 PM

21-17, whole ‘nother half to play and Peyton is getting hot. This one ain’t over yet.

And good win by Cincy over the Pats.

Gingotts on October 6, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Sorry forgot to add, the Pats lost. The defense did pretty well despite the absence of Wilfork. The offense played poorly.

dogsoldier on October 6, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Tweet from WWL Radio in New Orleans:

Oh, and: Drew Brees keeps his record. The Bengals ended Tom Brady’s TD streak today. Brady’s hair said to be inconsolable.

Del Dolemonte on October 6, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Great sell job by Peyton on that bootleg.

As my Giants are a steaming pile of sh!t this year, I’ll take solace where I can find it.

rbj on October 6, 2013 at 5:54 PM

35-20. Manning still on pace for 64 TDs this season. QB rating of 150. Really enjoyable to watch.

Gingotts on October 6, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Geaux Saints! :) :) :)

Theophile on October 6, 2013 at 6:35 PM

This Cowboys/Broncos game is highly entertaining

gophergirl on October 6, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Yeah, really was a fun battle of the QBs, even if I do wish Denver had enough of a pass defense to have made that the rightful blowout it should have been…

Gingotts on October 6, 2013 at 7:40 PM

How times have changed:
We used to have to put up with Keith Olbermann on NBC Sunday night football.
Tonight I switched to NBC Sunday night football…to avoid Keith Olbermann.

22044 on October 6, 2013 at 7:42 PM

This Cowboys/Broncos game is highly entertaining

gophergirl on October 6, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Those highlights should be pretty good!

22044 on October 6, 2013 at 7:44 PM

FIFM.

F-

Del Dolemonte on October 6, 2013 at 5:35 PM

LOL – that’s a minor edit, no need for an F- :)

22044 on October 6, 2013 at 7:46 PM

Broncos has worse passing defense in the entire league. They beat the Cowboys, but I wonder if they’ be so lucky against the Cults and the Chefs?

Indianapolis might be the season champions…or New Orleans, ugh.

Daikokuco on October 6, 2013 at 7:46 PM

Watching Peyton under center is a lot like watching Maddux toe the rubber from about 1993 to 1996, an absolute master at the peak of their game. He’s going to completely re-write the record book this year.

Good Solid B-Plus on October 6, 2013 at 7:52 PM

How times have changed:
We used to have to put up with Keith Olbermann on NBC Sunday night football.
Tonight I switched to NBC Sunday night football…to avoid Keith Olbermann.

22044 on October 6, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Ugh, tell me about it. I hate that Olby has re-infested my favorite sport. At least Sheff and Pedro can be entertaining at times.

Good Solid B-Plus on October 6, 2013 at 7:53 PM

Tony Romo throws for over 500 yards and still costs his team the game. Love it!!!

Bitter Clinger on October 6, 2013 at 8:03 PM

My Ravens won so I can have a good week!

ManWithNoName on October 6, 2013 at 8:11 PM

Mr. Kaepernick, may I have the pleasure of introducing you to Mr. Watt?

Go Texans!!!

TXUS on October 6, 2013 at 8:28 PM

Matt Schaub set a new record. It didn’t take long.

4 weeks in a row throwing a pick 6. Ouch.

22044 on October 6, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Texans are so dumb. Stupidest “mascot” in the entire NFL.

Daikokuco on October 6, 2013 at 9:00 PM

Now you know why I have high blood pressure and low cholesterol.

The ‘Boys/Broncos game was one for the ages.

Holy Cow.

BobMbx on October 6, 2013 at 9:20 PM

How times have changed:

We used to have to put up with Keith Olbermann on NBC Sunday night football.

Tonight I switched to NBC Sunday night football…to avoid Keith Olbermann.

22044 on October 6, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Ugh, tell me about it. I hate that Olby has re-infested my favorite sport. At least Sheff and Pedro can be entertaining at times.

Good Solid B-Plus on October 6, 2013 at 7:53 PM

Agreed, but at least so far from this observer he’s not been overly KO-ish.

My complaint is minor-TBS/TNT has as their second string announcing team doing the AL West the Red Sox TV team of Don Orsilo and Dennis Eckersley, who are great, but they then dropped Blue Jays announcer Buck Martinez in as the 3rd guy in the booth.

Buck Is Too Loud.

Getting back to reality, Go Bucs! The Pirates are right in there in their first playoff series in many years.

Del Dolemonte on October 6, 2013 at 9:51 PM

Del Dolemonte on October 6, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Good one!

dogsoldier on October 7, 2013 at 5:15 AM