Video: Boehner’s looking to “temper expectations”

posted at 10:41 am on October 4, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

In the last few weeks, few if any reporters have been as connected to the thinking among House Republicans as National Review’s Robert Costa. He tells C-SPAN in this interview that Speaker John Boehner is trying to strike a balance between the different factions in his caucus by making sure that expectations are not out of line with what can realistically be achieved.  Can one chamber of Congress force the Senate and White House to reverse course on ObamaCare and the mandate? Highly unlikely, but Boehner wants actual gains for the GOP as part of a deal, or else will not agree to end the shutdown:

The House returns today to pass yet another continuing resolution that would reopen at least parts of the government, despite refusals of Harry Reid and the Senate to consider piece-by-piece appropriations.  Instead, this will allow Republicans to add more items to the list of constituents that Reid refuses to service in order to dictate to the House how the budget should be presented:

On Friday, the Republican-led House was keeping up a drive to finance certain agencies and programs on a piecemeal basis — a strategy rejected by Obama and the Democratic-led Senate.

“We are not picking winners and losers,” Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., said Friday on MSNBC. “I think what we are doing is exercising stewardship over the taxpayers’ dollars. …I’m ready to go to work today and get it done.”

The House planned a vote to fund a popular program providing food aid to pregnant women and their children, as well as ongoing disaster relief.

Furloughed federal workers were expected to get some relief with legislation authorizing back pay due for a vote on Friday or Saturday in the House. Some top Democrats have supported that idea alongside Republicans.

Again, Americans are pretty clear that they want all sides to negotiate, rather than issue ultimatums.  So far, though, Democrats aren’t listening, and as Costa notes, Republicans don’t really have a leader emerging who can define and unite the party.  The result will be brinksmanship all the way down to October 17th — and perhaps beyond.  On the other hand, though, the continuing debacle of ObamaCare’s rollout may force Obama to start cutting a deal just to stop the intense focus on its failure.


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Furloughed federal workers were expected to get some relief with legislation authorizing back pay

Like always, it’s just another paid vacation for the federal employees. I’m disgusted with the GOPe. They should either follow through or go home. I vote they go home and let some real conservatives run the House. Wimps.

Wino on October 4, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Instead, this will allow Republicans to add more items to the list of constituents that Reid refuses to service

Keep pushing this. Harry Reidhates veterans and wants kids with cancer to die. President Petulant is throwing a temper tantrum and refuses to be reasonable.

rbj on October 4, 2013 at 10:45 AM

You know what that means.
Temper our expectations of what the GOP will achieve!
In other words, Surrender.

LeftCoastRight on October 4, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Boehner’s looking to “temper expectations”

Who expected more? Rs put up some resistance, Democrats lie and the media backs them up 100%, scary polls, then fold.

forest on October 4, 2013 at 10:48 AM

despite refusals of Harry Reid and the Senate to consider piece-by-piece appropriations.

Piece-by-piece is normal order. The Senate hasn’t followed normal order since Obama was elected and Republicans should’ve been screaming bloody murder the entire time. That they don’t confirms, to Reid, that his strategy is sound. And he’s right.

Fenris on October 4, 2013 at 10:52 AM

I love this piecemeal route. If only we could really run government like that.

….and move tax day to November.

Dongemaharu on October 4, 2013 at 10:55 AM

Like always, it’s just another paid vacation for the federal employees.

Wino on October 4, 2013 at 10:45 AM

How is sitting at home as a political pawn and not getting paid some sort of vacation? You are too stupid for words. At least the words that are family friendly.

Happy Nomad on October 4, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Again, Americans are pretty clear that they want all sides to negotiate, rather than issue ultimatums. So far, though, Democrats aren’t listening,

At this point there really isn’t a reason for the Dems to end the shutdown. And the polls are showing that the GOP isn’t taking the hit that the Quisling Republicans were predicting last week. The GOP needs to keep on being reasonable while the Dems are seen refusing to even negotiate, hating kids with cancer, inflicting harm on the families of military members, and otherwise being vindictive and sadistic.

Happy Nomad on October 4, 2013 at 11:00 AM

If Boehner blinks now he will lose twice – TEA Party and the PR game.

Let the Fed’s be-clown themselves with more Barry-cades.

mjbrooks3 on October 4, 2013 at 11:02 AM

How is sitting at home as a political pawn and not getting paid some sort of vacation? You are too stupid for words. At least the words that are family friendly.

Happy Nomad on October 4, 2013 at 10:56 AM

If they get back-pay, which part of that equates to “not getting paid”? You really shouldn’t cast aspersions on other people’s intelligence if you think “getting back-pay” is the same as “not getting paid”. Good grief.

Midas on October 4, 2013 at 11:05 AM

If Boehner blinks now he will lose twice FOUR TIMES – TEA Party and the PR game.

Let the Fed’s be-clown themselves with more Barry-cades.

mjbrooks3 on October 4, 2013 at 11:02 AM

Since he will likely lose both his Speakership and the House.

Hell, he might even lose his seat. It is a very red district and the right person could beat him. He wouldn’t be the first Speaker to lose.

Resist We Much on October 4, 2013 at 11:05 AM

“In divided government, he will say to them, what can we really achieve?”

It’s not about divided government, you blithering idiot. It’s about “must-pass” legislation. i.e. leverage.

The House planned a vote to fund a popular program providing food aid to pregnant women and their children,

Food aid for any individuals – including pregnant women and their children – is a state responsibility, not a federal one. WTFF?

Furloughed federal workers were expected to get some relief with legislation authorizing back pay due for a vote on Friday or Saturday in the House.

Anyone who votes for this should be ______. This is pathetic and ridiculous. If they aren’t working they shouldn’t be paid. The feral government isn’t in operation to support the leeches who feed off of it and the idiots in Washington aren’t entitled to just give away any money they want. They have a fiduciary responsibility. This is beyond insane. They think they can waste taxpayer’s money (and fake money printed up to augment tax receipts, thereby taking some value out of everyone’s cash) just to keep government leeches fat and happy, even as they are not working? They think that making this “shut-down” a paid vacation for the leeches is in the nation’s interest in any way, whatsoever?

Throw these Congressional scumbags out onto the street, themselves. And then we have to get kicking on a national divorce. I want nothing to do with Barky, the dems, or any of the Vichy Republicans. Let them burn in their own little hellhole of a nation.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on October 4, 2013 at 11:06 AM

If they get back-pay, which part of that equates to “not getting paid”? You really shouldn’t cast aspersions on other people’s intelligence if you think “getting back-pay” is the same as “not getting paid”. Good grief.

Midas on October 4, 2013 at 11:05 AM

They also qualify for unemployment insurance and food stamps during the duration so it’s not like they are starving and unable to pay for gas.

FUNCATION FOR THE FUNCTIONARIES!!!

How many businesses have 800,000 NON-ESSENTIAL EMPLOYEES and remain open?

Resist We Much on October 4, 2013 at 11:07 AM

If they get back-pay, which part of that equates to “not getting paid”? You really shouldn’t cast aspersions on other people’s intelligence if you think “getting back-pay” is the same as “not getting paid”. Good grief.

Midas on October 4, 2013 at 11:05 AM

Operative word is “If” you stinking moron. And that includes all the federal employees “excepted” and on the job but not getting paid either.

Wouldn’t it be better to actually fund the federal workforce instead of making the claims that there are a bunch of people who are sitting at home drinking champagne and eating lobster on a paid vacation????

Happy Nomad on October 4, 2013 at 11:10 AM

Paging Egg! Would Steve Eggleston please pick up the white courtesy phone???

Dem Rep. Gwen Moore: I’m Standing With Furloughed Government Workers By Collecting My $174K Salary During Shutdown…

Resist We Much on October 4, 2013 at 11:13 AM

Pathetic, but all too like these imbeciles, ssdd

So simple a ‘cave’man could do it — GEICO™

mickytx on October 4, 2013 at 11:14 AM

Operative word is “If” you stinking moron. And that includes all the federal employees “excepted” and on the job but not getting paid either.

Wouldn’t it be better to actually fund the federal workforce instead of making the claims that there are a bunch of people who are sitting at home drinking champagne and eating lobster on a paid vacation????

Happy Nomad on October 4, 2013 at 11:10 AM

LOL, you could simply admit that you said something incredibly stupid, but if you’d prefer to get ‘liberal’, play defensive, lash out, and throw in some feeble straw man points that no one was making in order to knock them down and try to save face, well… if it makes you feel better!

Midas on October 4, 2013 at 11:14 AM

How many businesses have 800,000 NON-ESSENTIAL EMPLOYEES and remain open?

Resist We Much on October 4, 2013 at 11:07 AM

RWM,

Day-to-day operations are different than long-term operations. Not having a secretary in the front office of a business for a couple weeks doesn’t mean that the company doesn’t need a secretary. In other words, non-excepted does not mean no-value-added.

Size and scope of government is a completely different debate. But, making broad general attacks on the federal workforce is morally wrong.

Happy Nomad on October 4, 2013 at 11:16 AM

On the other hand, though, the continuing debacle of ObamaCare’s rollout may force Obama to start cutting a deal just to stop the intense focus on its failure.

Remember way back when we were told that by not caving and passing a “clean” CR House Republicans had stepped all over the news cycle regarding the failure of Obamacare. If only we didn’t stand up for anything, the nasty propagandist media would have railed on the signature legislation of the President they’ve bent over to cater these past 5 years.

Gingotts on October 4, 2013 at 11:18 AM

LOL, you could simply admit that you said something incredibly stupid, but if you’d prefer to get ‘liberal’, play defensive, lash out, and throw in some feeble straw man points that no one was making in order to knock them down and try to save face, well… if it makes you feel better!

Midas on October 4, 2013 at 11:14 AM

So refute the points you consider feeble. Too hard for your limited intellect? Go ahead, I dare ya.

Happy Nomad on October 4, 2013 at 11:19 AM

I’m sorry; if you want to be compassionate towards ‘non-essential’ federal employees who’ve been furloughed for less than a week, and have the government looking for ways to ensure they get paid in full for that time, feel free.

I won’t be joining you. I’m more concerned for ‘essential’ private sector workers whose jobs and lives are being destroyed every f*cking day by this God-forsaken, overwhelming peopled with ‘non-essential workers’ government.

Note to ‘non-essential’ public sector folks from the ‘private sector’ that’s been suffering for years at a lower standard of living, with no job security, and f*ck-all being done to fix it at the federal level – “welcome to the f*cking party, pals.”

Midas on October 4, 2013 at 11:19 AM

So refute the points you consider feeble. Too hard for your limited intellect? Go ahead, I dare ya.

Happy Nomad on October 4, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Wouldn’t it be better to actually fund the federal workforce instead of making the claims that there are a bunch of people who are sitting at home drinking champagne and eating lobster on a paid vacation????

Happy Nomad on October 4, 2013 at 11:10 AM

How’s that, f*ckwit? Point to where someone actually made that stupid claim, rather than you pulling it straight out of your a$$. Go ahead, I dare ya.

Midas on October 4, 2013 at 11:21 AM

Furloughed federal workers were expected to get some relief with legislation authorizing back pay due for a vote on Friday or Saturday in the House.

Meanwhile all the people who lost their jobs due to Bark’s stupid schemes get no back pay or front pay, basically no pay at all.

Why are federal workers protected as if they are newborn babies?

Bishop on October 4, 2013 at 11:22 AM

There’s nothing to temper.

Akzed on October 4, 2013 at 11:22 AM

RWM,

Day-to-day operations are different than long-term operations. Not having a secretary in the front office of a business for a couple weeks doesn’t mean that the company doesn’t need a secretary. In other words, non-excepted does not mean no-value-added.

Size and scope of government is a completely different debate. But, making broad general attacks on the federal workforce is morally wrong.

Happy Nomad on October 4, 2013 at 11:16 AM

I guess that I am immoral for thinking that there’s some fat that can be trimmed, say, at the EPA when 93.4% of the workers are deemed NON-ESSENTIAL.

Long live immorality!!!

Resist We Much on October 4, 2013 at 11:23 AM

In my opinion, the longer the shutdown lasts, the more stale it becomes, and the more people realize that shutting down the government doesn’t mean the world stops spinning. Like the sequester, people will realize (1) how little the federal government actually benefits them, and (2) how much this administration is playing the “firefighters first” game.

I say drag it out, and trumpet the GOP’s efforts to end the shutdown.

Mohonri on October 4, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Why are federal workers protected as if they are newborn babies? Bishop on October 4, 2013 at 11:22 AM

They should have the same protection as unborn babies.

Akzed on October 4, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Remember way back when we were told that by not caving and passing a “clean” CR House Republicans had stepped all over the news cycle regarding the failure of Obamacare.

Gingotts on October 4, 2013 at 11:18 AM

Seems like it was just last week. ;0

At this point, there really isn’t any impetus to move by Congress or the the lazy stupid coward. Everybody is biding time until the debt ceiling debate becomes part of the current impasse. Congress isn’t even meeting this weekend.

It will be interesting to see if Congresscritters visiting the folks back home over the weekend does anything to change the dynamics but, for now, I don’t see the partial shutdown of the government ending before October 17th or later.

Happy Nomad on October 4, 2013 at 11:24 AM

Like always, it’s just another paid vacation for the federal employees.

Wino on October 4, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Meanwhile, small business owners are unneccessarily suffering hardship because of Obama’s vindictiveness…

This kabuki “shutdown theater” is going to do a lot more serious harm than just interrupt little Johnny’s vacation at Yellowstone.

The Obama administration shut down and barricaded the entrance to the Grand Canyon park, despite the fact that the government of AZ offered to pay the costs of keeping the park operating during the government shutdown. Many small businesses near the park depend on the tourist trade; if the park remains closed, these people will lose their businesses, and may also lose their homes and life savings.

A couple of days ago, Obama went on a business channel and tried to talk the stock market down, telling traders they “should be afraid” of the government shutdown.

What kind of president deliberately tries to spook financial markets, and puts innocent Americans at risk of losing their livelihoods, just to score political points?

This punk is the the sleaziest POS ever to occupy the office of the president.

AZCoyote on October 4, 2013 at 11:14 AM

ITguy on October 4, 2013 at 11:25 AM

I guess I’m immoral, too. F*ck it, moving on.

Midas on October 4, 2013 at 11:25 AM

I guess that I am immoral for thinking that there’s some fat that can be trimmed, say, at the EPA when 93.4% of the workers are deemed NON-ESSENTIAL.

Resist We Much on October 4, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Like I said the size and scope of government is a different debate. And yes, when EPA or HUD can send virtually everybody home then one must really consider the purpose and function of the entire organization. I’d add the entire Department of Education to the list as well. I don’t know their furlough numbers but the Dept of Education is nothing but a means of passing money from the feds to the states.

Happy Nomad on October 4, 2013 at 11:27 AM

So refute the points you consider feeble. Too hard for your limited intellect? Go ahead, I dare ya.

Happy Nomad on October 4, 2013 at 11:19 AM

You don’t sound very happy. I suggest drinking. Heavily. It’s a solution to living under an oppressive government that the Russians discovered long ago. Of course, at the other extreme, there is our Founding Father’s solution. Pray it doesn’t come to that.

Fenris on October 4, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Of course, at the other extreme, there is our Founding Father’s solution. Pray it doesn’t come to that.

Fenris on October 4, 2013 at 11:27 AM

I firmly believe that the American Spring is coming.

Happy Nomad on October 4, 2013 at 11:28 AM

I guess I’m immoral, too. F*ck it, moving on.

Midas on October 4, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Coward.

Happy Nomad on October 4, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Maybe these furloughed federal workers should ask why there’s money to pay all sorts of other federal workers to erect unnecessary barricades at war memorials but not enough money to keep them on their own job.

Congress are also federal workers of a kind, why aren’t they being furloughed. As usual the douchebags who make the rules managed to exclude themselves.

Bishop on October 4, 2013 at 11:30 AM

I guess that I am immoral for thinking that there’s some fat that can be trimmed, say, at the EPA when 93.4% of the workers are deemed NON-ESSENTIAL.

Resist We Much on October 4, 2013 at 11:23 AM

I would just add that those workers at the EPA are not only NON-ESSENTIAL, but outright DESTRUCTIVE. Not as destructive as those at the EPA deemed ESSENTIAL (who do the real damage) but destructive, nonetheless.

Since the EPA has so many “workers” with time on their hands, now, Congress should be hauling them in to find out more about the anti-American, insane, un-Constitutional schemes they are working on over there. They should have to spend their time testifying before committees about how they are working to raise prices for energy, destroy energy production capacity and push the leftist fraud of global warming and CO2 “pollution”. They can think of it as in-school detention … which is about the level these worms operate at, anyway.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on October 4, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Just remember that Boehnerd didn’t win re-election to just his House seat in 2012, but he was re-elected to the Speakership by a clear majority of his fellow Republicans.

He’s not just an aberration. He’s the new GOPP normal.

I pity the fool who votes for that clown-show again.

We need to rise up, run off the plantation and get back to a two-party system right now!

Peregruzka Now! SOLIDARZSNOSCTCH!…or was it just a C after the third S?…er, whatever

sartana on October 4, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Congress are also federal workers of a kind, why aren’t they being furloughed. As usual the douchebags who make the rules managed to exclude themselves.

Bishop on October 4, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Congresscritters generations ago made it illegal to withhold their own pay. You can’t furlough them. What I don’t understand is why their staffs are still on the job.

Might make some sort of an agreement possible if high-and-mighty Senators find themselves having to answer the phones or make the coffee. And can you imagine Mooch trying to make her own damn lobster?

Happy Nomad on October 4, 2013 at 11:33 AM

In my opinion, the longer the shutdown lasts, the more stale it becomes, and the more people realize that shutting down the government doesn’t mean the world stops spinning. Like the sequester, people will realize (1) how little the federal government actually benefits them, and (2) how much this administration is playing the “firefighters first” game.

I say drag it out, and trumpet the GOP’s efforts to end the shutdown.

Mohonri on October 4, 2013 at 11:23 AM

I agree. But then, I’m not as smart as the guys who keep losing to Democrats.

Dongemaharu on October 4, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Since the EPA has so many “workers” with time on their hands, now, Congress should be hauling them in to find out more about the anti-American, insane, un-Constitutional schemes they are working on over there.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on October 4, 2013 at 11:30 AM

They’d just lie like the IRS and NSA critters did.

I say cut our losses and sell their building out from under them during the furlough to pay the bills. Prime DC real estate that could be put to better use even if an adult video outlet moves into the space.

Happy Nomad on October 4, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Just remember that Boehnerd didn’t win re-election to just his House seat in 2012, but he was re-elected to the Speakership by a clear majority of his fellow Republicans.

sartana on October 4, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Yep. That was the last GOP straw for me. The Mittens campaign was bad enough but that Weeping Boner re-election was outside of any bounds of sane human action. If the Weeper had had even a modicum of decency – just a smidgeon – he wouldn’t have even run again for a job that he clearly cannot do, but we seem to be in times when ineptitude and incompetence are promoted as virtues and the inept, incompetent boobs are without any shame, at all.

Any society that finds itself in this sort of state is not long for this world … and certainly shouldn’t be.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on October 4, 2013 at 11:37 AM

They’d just lie like the IRS and NSA critters did.

Yeah … I was just bouncing the idea around. But, you’re certainly correct. And the House committees they lied to wouldn’t do anything about it, anyway.

I say cut our losses and sell their building out from under them during the furlough to pay the bills. Prime DC real estate that could be put to better use even if an adult video outlet moves into the space.

Happy Nomad on October 4, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Heh. Those would be the first adults in there :)

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on October 4, 2013 at 11:39 AM

I firmly believe that the American Spring is coming.

Happy Nomad on October 4, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Belief in the absence of evidence is more commonly called faith or hope.

Fenris on October 4, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Frankly, and I say this as a private contractor for the Federal Government…I hope the government really *does* shut down. All of it. For real.

I would like anyone here, to tell me exactly how this shut-down has affected your life. exactly.

Because it hasn’t affected me one bit. ( my current single Fed contract will expire, regardless of their funding stream. I knew that going in, and planned contingencies for it occurring short. Which it now has.)

And from what I’ve seen…it hasn’t really affected anyone else, either. (except for some Parks Rangers trying to prohibit people from walking around a standing natl monument…as if you could “close” it.)

And if your reaction is, “I’m a small business, and it’s killing my business”… I highly doubt you are going to be successful, Government or no. If your one revenue stream is ‘sucking from the public trough’, then you aren’t really a small business…you’re a welfare recipient with tax forms and a health plan.

a5minmajor on October 4, 2013 at 11:45 AM

It’s obvious Happy Troll is a non-essential federal worker. In the real world, he’d be laid off. In the federal world, he gets a paid vacation so he can sit on HA and spew pointless non sequiturs. He puts the “rant” in “ignorant.”

Wino on October 4, 2013 at 11:49 AM

The House returns today to pass yet another continuing resolution that would reopen at least parts of the government, despite refusals of Harry Reid and the Senate to consider piece-by-piece appropriations.

‘Piece-by-piece’ appropriations are actually what the law, The Budget Act of 1974, calls for.

As is par for the course, the President and Senate Majority Leader seem to believe that the Constitution gives them the authority to just simply ignore any law of the land they personally do not like or inhibits their efforts to seize greater political power.

Again, Americans are pretty clear that they want all sides to negotiate, rather than issue ultimatums. So far, though, Democrats aren’t listening, and as Costa notes, Republicans don’t really have a leader emerging who can define and unite the party. The result will be brinksmanship all the way down to October 17th — and perhaps beyond.

This history of the Boehner / McConnell led GOP Congressional caucuses has been one of surrendering to extortion. This time, however, there are numbers in both caucuses sufficient to make it clear to the leaders, if you cave, you will lose your leadership position.

We’re used to watching the lamestream media shill for the progressive-fascists – and we’re used to that flood of propaganda to swaying significant numbers of apathetic / low-information / unaware of the civics of this country people.

If the GOP can keep repeating as a mantra the concept of the importance of fiscal sanity, in terms that low information people can relate to, what a fundamentally unfair clusterfark Obamacare is, how two people are actively not only breaking the law of the land – but are working to make the shutdown as painful as possible to score political points, the meme will change.

People will start asking how and why two people can ignore laws they don’t like and grind the entire federal government to a halt for partisan politics.

Athos on October 4, 2013 at 11:53 AM

John the Surrender Monkey returns.

Steveangell on October 4, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Wino on October 4, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Happy Nomad is not a troll. He’s a good commenter who’s just a bit off on this issue.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on October 4, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Man that sure is a lot of words to describe “He folded again” as expected by his friends on the left….
Third party-though it is much too late to save America.

Don L on October 4, 2013 at 12:00 PM

I love this piecemeal route. If only we could really run government like that.

Dongemaharu on October 4, 2013 at 10:55 AM

I suspect the left is praying to their hyperactive nether world gods that the right doesn’t realize that this piecemeal route is the best weapon ever devised by them…and they’ll lay it down without using it.

Don L on October 4, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Throw these Congressional scumbags out onto the street, themselves. And then we have to get kicking on a national divorce. I want nothing to do with Barky, the dems, or any of the Vichy Republicans. Let them burn in their own little hellhole of a nation.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair

Says the man who voted for John McCain. Whatever.

lostmotherland on October 4, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Happy Nomad adds to much sanity to this community to be considered a troll. I believe the point of paying them would take a huge demedia talking point away and further inflame those that think the federal g’ment is full of people we don’t need to employ.

If the government is closed and the bloated federal payroll is reported yet services are shut down and nobody notices don’t you think there would be a backlash?

They are going to get paid anyway. This will also drive home the issue of the g’ment workers (local, state and federal) that retire in their 50′s and watch you drive to work because you have to.

DanMan on October 4, 2013 at 12:27 PM

My expectation is that Obama/Reid will refuse to negotiate and that Boehner will completely capitulate. He may be able to get a faux concession out of Obama/Reid to make himself look better – but which would also reinforce the lie that Obama/Reid are reasonable compromisers – I’d rather have complete capitulation than some face saving nothing that helps Obama/Reid more than the GOP.

besser tot als rot on October 4, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Says the man who voted for John McCain. Whatever.

lostmotherland on October 4, 2013 at 12:07 PM

I know this is hard for someone with a brain as small as yours to understand, but you can think that widespread and rampant divorce is bad for society even if you voted for someone who got a divorce. Or, even if you yourself are divorced. Crazy, huh?

besser tot als rot on October 4, 2013 at 12:47 PM

As a government worker, who was forced to take leave without pay for 10 days so far this year due to the furloughs from sequestration and the shutdown, I do not support being given “back pay” for days I did not work. Just pass a budget already, get those of us who work in defense back to work so we can go about our jobs of supporting this nations great military, and quit labeling us as “non-essential”. Label the entire EPA, Dept. of Education, DOE, FEMA, BLM, etc as non essential.

The Spear on October 4, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Boehner needs to be relieved of his speakership. He has no idea about the how to win…he is a perpetual loser who embraces losing…

If you have contact with your House member…tell them Boehner and Cantor need to go…we need leadership that has the will to win

georgealbert on October 4, 2013 at 1:05 PM

The Spear on October 4, 2013 at 12:48 PM

THIS^^^

It astounds me, that the ONE function our Federal Government actually has specifically enumerated to it in the Constitution…is the first one Feds (ESPECIALLY DEMS) start monkeying with.

“OH! The Horror of the ‘Military-Industrial Complex’!

gimme a break. DoD doesn’t hold a candle to the power of today’s EPA, DHS, DOI, et al.

You know why they won’t pass a budget? Because people would find out that we spend exponentially more one non-essential federal goodies, than we do on the military.

This “Shutdown”…is kabuki. period.

a5minmajor on October 4, 2013 at 1:59 PM

Since he will likely lose both his Speakership and the House.

Hell, he might even lose his seat. It is a very red district and the right person could beat him. He wouldn’t be the first Speaker to lose.

Resist We Much on October 4, 2013 at 11:05 AM

He will most likely lose his speakership. But that may have been lost already.

So far as the GOP if they run against Obama Care in 2014 there will be huge GOP gains just like in 2010. Only a very RINO message could cause 2014 losses like with Mitt (ACA King) Romney very muddled and ungenuine messaging.

Steveangell on October 4, 2013 at 3:04 PM

If you have contact with your House member…tell them Boehner and Cantor need to go…we need leadership that has the will to win

georgealbert on October 4, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Good one Kos kid, I’m in Texas and I sent him a letter thanking him for holding the line.

DanMan on October 4, 2013 at 3:05 PM

That the shutdown happened at all … already surpasses my expectations of the Repub leadership. The longer the shutdown stretches out the better it is. The more people who do notice that the shutdown doesn’t really affect them, the better.

I didn’t think Boehner had the minerals. I thought for sure he would let the “Clean” CR (talk about a non sequitur) go to vote and pass via votes from the Dem minority. It’s not like he hasn’t done that before.

PoliTech on October 4, 2013 at 4:32 PM