Boehner on Obama official’s “we’re winning” quote: “This isn’t some damn game!”

posted at 12:41 pm on October 4, 2013 by Allahpundit

Democrats held a presser yesterday pounding GOP Rep. Marlin Stutzman for his own rhetorical air biscuit, so now here’s Boehner repaying the kindness by seizing on today’s White House Kinsleyan gaffe. (The “Let’s Talk” hashtag in the background is straight out of Rand Paul’s playbook of framing the GOP as the reasonable, dialogue-happy counterpart to obstinate Dems.) Just one question: Isn’t this sort of a game at this point? There’s no consensus even within the GOP about what the endgame might look like or what they should be demanding at this point in exchange for a debt-ceiling hike. (Which, actually, was Stutzman’s whole point.) Here’s Byron York writing two days ago about a shutdown adrift:

As the shutdown took hold, the House GOP leadership changed course from trying to limit Obamacare to an effort to mitigate the effects of the shutdown. Boehner and his colleagues came up with bills that would fund the National Park Service, the Department of Veterans Affairs, the Smithsonian, the National Gallery of Art, the Holocaust Museum, and the District of Columbia government. The bills were considered under special rules, which in the end meant that House Democrats were able to kill them — before Senate Democrats could kill them…

Sometimes fights become so intense and so tangled that the original cause becomes obscured. In the government funding battle, the issue that sparked it all, Obamacare, was no longer center stage less than 24 hours after the shutdown began. The fight is now about the shutdown itself, and Obamacare has been pushed to the side.

One Republican senator told the NYT that the most recent caucus meeting was a virtual “lynch mob” against Ted Cruz, with Cruz calling his critics defeatists but otherwise offering no way forward. Meanwhile, in the House, Boehner has essentially three options: (1) Throw in the towel by passing a clean CR/debt-ceiling hike with Democratic votes, which probably means he’s done as Speaker; (2) put together some sort of “grand bargain,” which has proved impossible even when Democrats had less leverage than they do now; or (3) extract some face-saving “pound of flesh” and call it a day. Ryan Lizza:

2. Boehner’s next option is what some Republicans described to me as the “pound of flesh” plan. Perhaps there is some small, preferably Obamacare-related, policy concession that the White House and Harry Reid would trade in exchange for opening the government. There was some movement on this front yesterday, as a few Democrats and Republicans announced a bill that would combine a C.R. with a repeal of the medical-device tax, which is not popular with Democrats, especially Senators in red states, and which is not a lynchpin of Obamacare.

But this may be the worst of both worlds. It would violate Obama’s pledge not to negotiate under threat of a shutdown, and it might not be a big enough trophy for Boehner to mollify his right flank.

Having said that, as the shutdown drags on, and as the political pain increases for Republicans, and perhaps for Obama as well, the search for a mutually agreeable pound of flesh may grow more intense.

Repealing the medical-device tax wouldn’t be a pound of flesh, it’d be an ounce. The Senate voted 79-20 back in March to repeal the tax as part of a nonbinding budget resolution; if the result of all this shutdown sturm and debt-ceiling drang is only to force the end of a minor ObamaCare provision that Democrats have already voted to end once before, it’d be as humiliating as passing a clean CR. As Stutzman put it, bluntly showcasing the face-saving calculus at this point, “We’re not going to be disrespected. We have to get something out of this.” The medical-device tax barely qualifies as “something.”

Anyway, all (or most) of this was foreseeable. That’s the irony of the quote that has the White House in trouble this morning: Of course they wanted a shutdown. Of course they’d see it as a game that they could win for political advantage. That’s why so many RINOs urged Boehner not to let things get to this point. Exit question: Is it true, as Conn Carroll argues, that Boehner and House Republicans will never cave on the debt ceiling because to do so means “the debt limit will be dead forever as a functional tool to limit executive power and control federal spending”? If anything, that seems like it’d be a feature, not a bug, for centrist Republicans: The only thing more torturous than having to play chicken with the debt limit this time is the prospect of having to play it again and again and again as we approach the limit again in years to come? If they’re going to cave and eat mountains of crap from tea partiers, they might as well cave big by passing some sort of bill (Ramesh Ponnuru suggests one here) that would avert confrontations like this in the future.


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i see obama’s approval’s up to 52 on gallup, up 9 points since a month ago. surely just a blip. lefty fox news showing his approval surging is clearly just propaganda.

there should be more blog posts on the WWII vets, it’s clearly working.

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 1:50 PM

the democrats need you.

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 1:48 PM

They got me, small “d”.

I’ll never ever be a Democ-rat.

I’m more liberal, truly liberal and democratic, than you will ever be able to conceive.

I want good health care for all, not special for the congress, obama and their clans.

I want liberty and freedom, good education, for all, not just for the privileged few, who send their kids to private schools, while the poor kids are forced to remain ignorant in squaller.

I could list you 1001 items.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 1:53 PM

very well so far.

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Only because you have a complicit dump media. If the media had any integrity they actually would report that Obama was intentionally hurting people in this shutdown..

melle1228 on October 4, 2013 at 1:54 PM

i see obama’s approval’s up to 52 on gallup, up 9 points since a month ago. surely just a blip. lefty fox news showing his approval surging is clearly just propaganda.

there should be more blog posts on the WWII vets, it’s clearly working.

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 1:50 PM

I explained above why his approval, or anything, doesn’t matter. He is NO longer running, not under this constitution. His party is in huuuuuge trouble.

On the WWII topic, you and him are in huuuuge trouble, but do double down. It’s so much fun to watch. DC ain’t seen nothin’, yet.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 1:55 PM

i see obama’s approval’s up to 52 on gallup, up 9 points since a month ago. surely just a blip. lefty fox news showing his approval surging is clearly just propaganda.

there should be more blog posts on the WWII vets, it’s clearly working.

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 1:50 PM

who cares what the polls say, Im paying attention to Obamas actions. you are clueless.

sesquipedalian on February 22, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Bishop on October 4, 2013 at 1:56 PM

i see obama’s approval’s up to 52 on gallup, up 9 points since a month ago. surely just a blip. lefty fox news showing his approval surging is clearly just propaganda.

there should be more blog posts on the WWII vets, it’s clearly working.

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 1:50 PM

LOL. Epic fail, dipstick. That’s Obama’s disapproval up to 52% on Gallup. His approval on Gallup is a thoroughly stagnant 41%. In fact just about every measure has shown Obama dropping today – for most the first day of entirely post-shutdown numbers. Rasmussen was actually his strongest number for a while, but he had a good day roll off and the latest days… not so rosy.

Seriously, Ed, Allah – can’t you pay to have a more worthy class of troll come around here? This is easy mode.

Gingotts on October 4, 2013 at 1:56 PM

there should be more blog posts on the WWII vets, it’s clearly working.

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 1:50 PM

This proves that the trolls are true swine.

These men risked their lives at the now closed memorials in France and this is what they get.

YOU truly don’t deserve to live free, and you never will.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 1:57 PM

“forward” at least doesn’t imply surrender.

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 1:41 PM

No – but given its history it does imply lies, deceit, dishonesty, and total government control of everyones’ lives.

dentarthurdent on October 4, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Gingotts on October 4, 2013 at 1:56 PM

It only read the CNN ‘objective’ crap.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Sissy Hooligan, That figure you quoted fors for the 18-29 year old crowd.National Adults view him at 45%

Spin, sissy, spin!

kingsjester on October 4, 2013 at 1:58 PM

“was”

kingsjester on October 4, 2013 at 1:59 PM

Bishop on October 4, 2013 at 1:56 PM

i’m not sure that’s my comment. can you link to it? surely you didn’t just make it up.

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 1:59 PM

One Republican senator told the NYT that the most recent caucus meeting was a virtual “lynch mob” against Ted Cruz, with Cruz calling his critics defeatists but otherwise offering no way forward.

Sure, if you believe Bob Corker and the NYT.

Hands up, everyone that thinks we should take at face value what *they* have to say about whether Cruz has an idea about what he’s doing or not?

Midas on October 4, 2013 at 2:00 PM

This proves that the trolls are true swine.

These men risked their lives at the now closed memorials in France and this is what they get.

YOU truly don’t deserve to live free, and you never will.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 1:57 PM

That’s the most horrible thing he is doing, but he is doing other petty bull$hit. He is cutting NFL coverage overseas for troops, but of course the military golf course that he plays on is staying open. He is closing the commissaries which are pretty much frickin self sustaining. They don’t charge a tax, but they all charge a 5 percent surcharge now, so they aren’t losing money. He is screwing over people so it hurts. He is a fin azz.

melle1228 on October 4, 2013 at 2:00 PM

Sissy Hooligan, That figure you quoted fors for the 18-29 year old crowd.National Adults view him at 45%

Spin, sissy, spin!

kingsjester on October 4, 2013 at 1:58 PM

52

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 2:00 PM

i see obama’s approval’s up to 52 on gallup, up 9 points since a month ago. surely just a blip. lefty fox news showing his approval surging is clearly just propaganda.

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 1:50 PM

I can’t tell whether you’re being intentionally disingenuous or legitimately can’t tell the difference between approval and disapproval.

Dunedainn on October 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM

oh nevermind

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM

I explained above why his approval, or anything, doesn’t matter. He is NO longer running, not under this constitution. His party is in huuuuuge trouble.

On the WWII topic, you and him are in huuuuge trouble, but do double down. It’s so much fun to watch. DC ain’t seen nothin’, yet.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Which is a fair point. Obama could give a crap how low his numbers get… Harry Reid, a bit more concerned. Begich, Hagan, Pryor, Landrieu, Shaheen, Franken – yes, Shaheen and Franken – have more keeping them up at night when the numbers drop.

Not to say they’ll act on their own. Every one of those Senate Dems are all time gutless and don’t break from the party line. You’ll se them squirming though. Even Manchin who isn’t up for a while tried to ooze himself away from this before being told no. Indeed it will be fun to watch.

Gingotts on October 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM

The dummies that voted for obama don’t know that obama’care’ and the ACA are the same, no kidding. Last night was hilarious to watch the sheepleton. The white ones “prefer the ACA, because it’s affordable”.

The black sheepleton prefer “obama’care’” because..well, it has their god’s name on it.

What a stupid country!!!

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 1:46 PM

Hey, I’m sorry. I understand where you are coming from but it’s hard to hear when you are a mom of young children. Reality sucx.

MontanaMmmm on October 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM

I can’t tell whether you’re being intentionally disingenuous or legitimately can’t tell the difference between approval and disapproval.

Dunedainn on October 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM

it’s true, i really can’t.

i’ll get my coat.

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 2:02 PM

oh nevermind

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Done and Done! Reprobate!

Murphy9 on October 4, 2013 at 2:02 PM

52

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 2:00 PM

50 cents a post can’t buy a troll smart enough to tell light green from dark green.

Gingotts on October 4, 2013 at 2:02 PM

oh nevermind

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM

That’s what I thought. Simpleton.

Dunedainn on October 4, 2013 at 2:03 PM

oh nevermind

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Indeed, you’re an idiot.

Obama’s Approval falls to 41% in Gallup.

sentinelrules on October 4, 2013 at 2:03 PM

oh nevermind

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Idjit.

kingsjester on October 4, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Let the Democrats SHUT IT DOWN!

GarandFan on October 4, 2013 at 2:05 PM

I do believe we’ve just witnessed the greatest troll fail in HotAir history.

Dunedainn on October 4, 2013 at 2:06 PM

oh nevermind

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM

No, don’t backtrack from it! Your bosses never backtrack from the stupid things they say when presented with the facts! Have you learned nothing?

You just gave us the best laugh we’ve had all afternoon. That makes this recent string of posts by far the most useful of anything you’ve ever put on this site.

Gingotts on October 4, 2013 at 2:07 PM

oh nevermind

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM

LOL, you wanted that to be true so very badly, you couldn’t even read correctly.

Liberalism rots the brain, champ.

Midas on October 4, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Hey, I’m sorry. I understand where you are coming from but it’s hard to hear when you are a mom of young children. Reality sucx.

MontanaMmmm on October 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Glad you read. I know what you mean, exactly. I do have my ways, and they irritate both sides…on purpose :) Won’t change. When both get mad, something burns.

Cruz has educated the land. She’s more awake than in a long time. The reaction from both sides is telling.

Just always know that I’m with you and the next generations. Oh, and no sorries. YOU are my friend.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 2:11 PM

i see obama’s approval’s up to 52 on gallup…

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 1:50 PM

LOL. Epic fail, dipstick. That’s Obama’s disapproval up to 52% on Gallup. His approval on Gallup is a thoroughly stagnant 41%.

Gingotts on October 4, 2013 at 1:56 PM

52

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 2:00 PM

I can’t tell whether you’re being intentionally disingenuous or legitimately can’t tell the difference between approval and disapproval.

Dunedainn on October 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM

oh nevermind

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Who you guys gonna believe, a chick who calls himself “foot-and-a-half”
or your lying eyes?

Maybe she’s colorblind. But the light green line on the linked Gallup chart is APPROVAL, down to 41%. And the dark green line is DISAPPROVAL, up to 52%.

Obama is FALLING, not RISING, in the Gallup poll.

de rigueur on October 4, 2013 at 2:11 PM

I do believe we’ve just witnessed the greatest troll fail in HotAir history.

Dunedainn on October 4, 2013 at 2:06 PM

LOL, we were there. They’ll never take that away from us. We were there.

Nice that it all started atop the second page too – easy to link for future reference.

Gingotts on October 4, 2013 at 2:12 PM

it’s true, i really can’t.

i’ll get my coat.

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Charts are hard… *whimper, whimper*…

de rigueur on October 4, 2013 at 2:12 PM

YOU are my friend.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 2:11 PM

Same 2 U. Thanks.

MontanaMmmm on October 4, 2013 at 2:13 PM

i see obama’s approval’s up to 52 on gallup, up 9 points since a month ago. surely just a blip. lefty fox news showing his approval surging is clearly just propaganda.

there should be more blog posts on the WWII vets, it’s clearly working.

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 1:50 PM

LOL. Epic fail, dipstick. That’s Obama’s disapproval up to 52% on Gallup. His approval on Gallup is a thoroughly stagnant 41%. In fact just about every measure has shown Obama dropping today – for most the first day of entirely post-shutdown numbers. Rasmussen was actually his strongest number for a while, but he had a good day roll off and the latest days… not so rosy.

Seriously, Ed, Allah – can’t you pay to have a more worthy class of troll come around here? This is easy mode.

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I think ALL of my ribs are broken!

Resist We Much on October 4, 2013 at 2:13 PM

oh nevermind

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Я3t@rD.

Resist We Much on October 4, 2013 at 2:15 PM

I am just going to toss this out there….

Maybe the Republicans are trying to play a head fake (if that’s the right term) by giving the appearance of there being no consensus within the party when there actually is. If the Democrats operate under the assumption the Republicans are imploding, the Democrats will get sloppy.

eaglescout_1998 on October 4, 2013 at 2:16 PM

oh nevermind

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM

ROFL

Bishop on October 4, 2013 at 2:18 PM

Are we sure that Sissy is not Miley Cyrus? She’s imploding like that.

kingsjester on October 4, 2013 at 2:22 PM

sesuqipeds talking point ripped to shreds.

MontanaMmmm on October 4, 2013 at 2:22 PM

52

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 2:00 PM

Only at CNN

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 2:23 PM

The Republicans should have submitted a CR with two addendum’s. The first be that Obama enforce the ACA with no waivers or delays. Secondly – Congress gets no subsidies. They would have put Obama in a corner. Now they are in a corner.

alanstern on October 4, 2013 at 2:24 PM

I think ALL of my ribs are broken!

Resist We Much on October 4, 2013 at 2:13 PM

You “cold-hearted bytch” :)

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 2:24 PM

Please God, keep the slowdown on.

It’s way too much fun.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 2:25 PM

Hey, I’m missing Dave Rywall.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Democrats aren’t going to give up any ground as long as they think their front-line troops, RINO’s in the GOP, might save them. If RINO’s would only play the winning hand that we’ve dealt them instead of all the talk about folding, the Democrat Party would be in dire straights. RINO’s are the only hope Obama/Reid have.

If the Democrats and their RINO agents are successful, we need to primary all the fake Republicans that we can. In fact, some of the worst of them, if we can’t primary them I would even go so far as to vote against them in the general to dislodge the incumbent so that next time all we have to defeat is a lowlife freshman Democrat.

FloatingRock on October 4, 2013 at 2:27 PM

#Whining

GOP made and owns this mess.
And now they’re feelings are hurt…awww.

Just Put up a clean CR or #ShutUp.

verbaluce on October 4, 2013 at 2:31 PM

LOL, we were there. They’ll never take that away from us. We were there.

Nice that it all started atop the second page too – easy to link for future reference.

Gingotts on October 4, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Rogerb and Dell, you’ll be so pleased.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 2:31 PM

If the Democrats operate under the assumption the Republicans are imploding, the Democrats will get sloppy.

First, the message and optics coming from Obama / WH / Reid has to improve quite a bit for them to achieve ‘sloppy’ based on what they’ve done since the 1st. They’ve out done the GOP in incompetence and tone deafness this week – and that’s even without considering the clusterfarked launch of Obamacare.

Second, I doubt the Democrats think that the GOP is imploding. The only time they care about what the GOP does or thinks is when the GOP is blocking their agenda. Then they appeal to the Vichy wing of surrender monkeys to bring the rest of the GOP caucus down. What has the Democrats sputtering is that the Vichy wing of the GOP is pretty much irrelevant because they care more to protect their phoney baloney jobs than to ‘go along to get along’.

Even with the nonstop propaganda from the Ministry of Truth, middle America, not the respective bases, are seeing what’s going on, and who is trying to fix the challenges, and who is causing the challenges. Who are being the adults, and who are being the petulant children. Who has credibility, and who’s lying.

Athos on October 4, 2013 at 2:31 PM

#Whining

GOP made and owns this mess.
And now they’re feelings are hurt…awww.

Just Put up a clean CR or #ShutUp.

verbaluce on October 4, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Liar, liar
Pants on fire

See what just happened to your buddy sesqui. Be quiet for a time. It’s dangerous in here.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 2:32 PM

Yesterday Dave Rywall, the loser from the Canadian parliament.

You can dump all you want on him.

He ain’t gon’ fight back.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 2:33 PM

Today sesqui…what great times we live in.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 2:34 PM

I’m waiting for the slave of HA.

The wasp nest is sprayed.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 2:35 PM

…However, if RINO’s fail to bail out the Democrats soon then Democrats are going to be in worse shape for having waiting than otherwise. So as long as the RINO’s fail to throw in the towel on a winning hand then their efforts to save the Democrats may only have served to string the Democrats along… further out onto the limb they’re busily sawing off.

FloatingRock on October 4, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Hey, I’m missing Dave Rywall.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 2:26 PM

He was assualted yesterday….too many Pucks to
the Face.

ToddPA on October 4, 2013 at 2:40 PM

#Whining

GOP made and owns this mess.
And now they’re feelings are hurt…awww.

Just Put up a clean CR or #ShutUp.

verbaluce on October 4, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Verbie’s just pi$$ed that it took it three days to get on an Ocare website and then got a quote for 300 a month for a bronze plan that requires a 5000 dollar deductible that only pays 60 percent. How’s that mess working out for YOU when even an OFA member won’t sign up for that MESS? BWAHHHHHAAAAHHHAAA

melle1228 on October 4, 2013 at 2:40 PM

I’m waiting for the slave of HA.

The wasp nest is sprayed.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 2:35 PM

He is still waiting in the cue for Illinois Healthcare.gov. :)

melle1228 on October 4, 2013 at 2:41 PM

Liar, liar
Pants on fire

See what just happened to your buddy sesqui. Be quiet for a time. It’s dangerous in here.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 2:32 PM

FFS, it’s using hashtags… in here… on purpose.

This isn’t even fair anymore. I’m going to place my cat on the keyboard and have her take this one out…

Gingotts on October 4, 2013 at 2:46 PM

verbaluce on October 4, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Hey, verbies, quick question for you:

Are the DeathCare waivers given out by Dog Eater legal or illegal?

Bishop on October 4, 2013 at 2:49 PM

oh nevermind

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM

I do believe that the squid just blushed !!.

But, give credit where due. It did come back to acknowledge the error.

Jabberwock on October 4, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Just Put up a clean CR or #ShutUp.

verbaluce on October 4, 2013 at 2:31 PM

You mean like the Dems have so many times?

Shall I start citing examples?

Resist We Much on October 4, 2013 at 2:57 PM

46 approve
51 disapprove

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

oh nevermind

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM

46.

RovesChins on October 4, 2013 at 3:04 PM

Just Put up a clean CR or #ShutUp.

verbaluce on October 4, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Shut up, he said.

RovesChins on October 4, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Rants

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 3:10 PM

White House allies, however, say a long shutdown could make the White House’s position less tenable. Mr. Obama is the most visible symbol of the U.S. government, they say, and will inevitably share in the blame as hardships mount and people weary of the infighting.

Already, the shutdown has produced images of inconvenience, lost pay, and disruptions in wedding and vacation plans. The Republican National Committee has offered to cover the cost of keeping open the World War II memorial for the next month after a group of veterans toured the site even though it was closed due to the shutdown.

“To the extent that any blame washes onto the Democrats and the president, it’s going to be from the sense that this town is just completely dysfunctional and it’s everybody’s fault,” said Matt Bennett, senior vice president of Third Way, a center-left think tank.

Resist We Much on October 4, 2013 at 3:18 PM

GOP should not do anything different until NJ special on Tues – good gauge of sentiment, for good, bad, or indifferent.

Any word on what came from GOP conf mtg this am?

matthew8787 on October 4, 2013 at 3:30 PM

“forward” at least doesn’t imply surrender.

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Explain how anything the left is trying today, is “Forward”

Europe has been trying it for decades, and is failing miserably. The USSR tried it for 80-odd years, and failed spectacularly.

A.) Socialism demonstrably does not work. (Especially in a setting the US displays now, with a huge ‘taker’ base and a miniscule ‘provider’ base.)

How is trying it under a different name ‘forward’?

B.)”Progressive” means progress toward what? Socialism.

C.) See Part A. above.

a5minmajor on October 4, 2013 at 3:39 PM

White House asking for sad shutdown stories

Shameless politicization of everything.

Murphy9 on October 4, 2013 at 3:58 PM

My sad shutdown story or nightmare, if you will…..

After it’s over, after the smoke clears, after everyone calms down……………………….

Nothing changes in Washington.

Tenwheeler on October 4, 2013 at 4:14 PM

“forward” at least doesn’t imply surrender.

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward, forward…
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

de rigueur on October 4, 2013 at 4:22 PM

I am just going to toss this out there….

Maybe the Republicans are trying to play a head fake (if that’s the right term) by giving the appearance of there being no consensus within the party when there actually is. If the Democrats operate under the assumption the Republicans are imploding, the Democrats will get sloppy.

eaglescout_1998 on October 4, 2013 at 2:16 PM

You give the GOP too much credit for being crafty.
I thought the same type of thing after what Justice Roberts did – like “maybe he did it so that the Republicans could take back the White House”. Never again will I rest upon wishful thinking.

Sterling Holobyte on October 4, 2013 at 4:23 PM

i see obama’s approval’s up to 52 on gallup…

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 1:50 PM
LOL. Epic fail, dipstick. That’s Obama’s disapproval up to 52% on Gallup. His approval on Gallup is a thoroughly stagnant 41%.

Gingotts on October 4, 2013 at 1:56 PM
52

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 2:00 PM
I can’t tell whether you’re being intentionally disingenuous or legitimately can’t tell the difference between approval and disapproval.

Dunedainn on October 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM
oh nevermind

sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 2:01 PM
Who you guys gonna believe, a chick who calls himself “foot-and-a-half”
or your lying eyes?

Maybe she’s colorblind. But the light green line on the linked Gallup chart is APPROVAL, down to 41%. And the dark green line is DISAPPROVAL, up to 52%.

Obama is FALLING, not RISING, in the Gallup poll.

de rigueur on October 4, 2013 at 2:11 PM

This is so freakin epic I call for humpbot! Vanquishing Troll Humpbot!

neyney on October 4, 2013 at 4:50 PM

I hope the voting public is looking at this closely. These are the pepople we/they have voted for.

johnnyU on October 4, 2013 at 5:03 PM

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sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 2:00 PM

If this is typical of the way Obama supporters interpret data, it explains so much.

talkingpoints on October 4, 2013 at 5:52 PM

SHUTDOWN FALLDOWN

Sesqui, you’re on top of the Drudge site, top/center.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 8:14 PM

which is not a lynchpin of Obamacare

I’ve always seen it spelled “linchpin”, but using this alternative is … interesting.

AesopFan on October 4, 2013 at 11:00 PM

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sesquipedalian on October 4, 2013 at 2:00 PM

Dang. Lolz! This one will follow you around for quite some time.

Bmore on October 5, 2013 at 8:19 AM

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