Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on October 3, 2013 by Allahpundit

As the partial government shutdown enters its third day, many House Republicans are determined to keep fighting, even though they see no plausible way out of the current impasse, because they’ve come so far they cannot imagine backing down now. “I think there’s a sense that for us to do a clean CR now — then what the hell was this about?” one Republican House member told me. “So I don’t think it’s going to end anytime soon.”…

“I think they’re stepping in it a bit,” said the GOP congressman, clearly relieved that Democrats were taking a turn making mistakes. But as much as the Democratic missteps buoyed Republicans, they didn’t do anything to solve the problem. “They were positive tactical moments that gave some breathing room,” said the strategist. “But there has yet to be a strategic moment that is a clear, outright win.”

“It’s sort of like when you have a temperature and you take an aspirin and your temperature goes down,” the strategist continued. “You still have a problem.”

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A coalition of centrist House Republicans is lobbying House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio) to find ways to end the partial government shutdown, lawmakers in the group said Wednesday…

“We’re looking for ways to break the stalemate and get the government back open as quickly as possible,” said Rep. Michael Grimm (R., N.Y.) en route to his second meeting of the day with the top House Republican. Mr. Grimm said the group of roughly 16 to 18 “pragmatist” House Republicans is growing in size as lawmakers get increasingly frustrated with the partial government shutdown…

“I want us to be in a majority again in 2014 and I don’t think this is the way to get there,” said Mr. Wolf, who would support a short-term spending bill with no policy riders.

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“I’ve been trying to figure this out,” says one House Republican of the current standoff over funding the government. “It seems to me that Boehner could do whatever he wants with Democrats on the floor and still get about 180 or 190 of us. So why doesn’t he do that?”…

If the Speaker did, he would raise the ire of the group of House GOP conservatives most committed to continuing the defund battle. There are various estimates of how many there are in that group — probably about 30 core members, but perhaps 30, or even as many as 50, others who are sympathetic to the core position. Even so, a high estimate is about 80, meaning that even in the worst case scenario for a clean continuing resolution, Boehner would still have around 150 Republican votes to end the impasse. Given Democratic support, that would be more than enough.

But he doesn’t do it. “I think the issue is, he’s scared that those 30 people could somehow force a speaker’s election,” says the House Republican. “I don’t know exactly, but clearly he thinks his speakership is a stake if he screws them.”

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Privately, a healthy number of pragmatic Republicans understand that Obamacare is not going to be defunded — or even touched — in the debt ceiling and government-funding negotiations. At this point, the strong stand against funding government is more about standing firm against Democrats than actually stripping money from Obamacare.

Obama isn’t running for office again, and few Republicans think Boehner will remain in the top post for much longer. Ways and Means Chairman Dave Camp (R-Mich.) — who has longed for a rewrite of the Tax Code — is nearing the end of his chairmanship. Ryan — who some see as the speaker-in-waiting — is desperate for a budget agreement.

So with the government shut down and the debt ceiling rapidly approaching in the next two weeks, a large number of Republicans see a grand deficit compromise as the only plausible way out.

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Robert Costa: Ever since Plan B failed on the fiscal cliff in January and you saw Boehner in near tears in front of his conference, he’s been crippled. He’s been facing the consequences of that throughout the year. Everything from [the Violence Against Women Act] to the farm bill to the shutdown. The Boehner coup was unsuccessful but there were two dozen members talking about getting rid of him. That’s enough to cause problems. Boehner’s got the veterans and the committee chairs behind him, but the class of 2010 and 2012 doesn’t have much allegiance to him…

RC: What we’re seeing is the collapse of institutional Republican power. It’s not so much about Boehner. It’s things like the end of earmarks. They move away from Tom DeLay and they think they’re improving the House, but now they have nothing to offer their members. The outside groups don’t always move votes directly but they create an atmosphere of fear among the members. And so many of these members now live in the conservative world of talk radio and tea party conventions and Fox News invitations. And so the conservative strategy of the moment, no matter how unrealistic it might be, catches fire. The members begin to believe they can achieve things in divided government that most objective observers would believe is impossible. Leaders are dealing with these expectations that wouldn’t exist in a normal environment.

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Ted Cruz faced a barrage of hostile questions Wednesday from angry GOP senators, who lashed the Texas tea party freshman for helping prompt a government shutdown crisis without a strategy to end it…

“It was very evident to everyone in the room that Cruz doesn’t have a strategy – he never had a strategy, and could never answer a question about what the end-game was,” said one senator who attended the meeting. “I just wish the 35 House members that have bought the snake oil that was sold could witness what was witnessed today at lunch.”…

At the Wednesday lunch, Cruz was asked what he would have done had GOP senators united to filibuster the House bill.

“He kept trying to change the subject because he never could answer the question,” the senator said. “It’s pretty evident it’s never been about a strategy – it’s been about him. That’s unfortunate. I think he’s done our country a major disservice. I think he’s done Republicans a major disservice.”

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Coburn also told McConnell that he had allowed the situation to spin out of control.

“He said to McConnell, ‘This has happened because there’s a leadership vacuum,’” the Republican source said…

Another Republican senator told The Hill that McConnell has paid too much deference to Lee and Cruz.

“What gets me is he’ll look at 46 [Republican] senators and say, ‘What do Mike and Ted want to do?’ What are we, chopped liver?” the lawmaker said.

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It is unlikely that the gilded power brokers in the Republican Party are likely to join their local county political club any time soon, but as the stock market wobbles amid the government shutdown and the continued demand for an Obamacare delay, a number of GOP donors are wondering if it is time for a little outside counter-pressure to sap the Tea Party of some of its energy. To be clear, none are considering joining the Democrats, and they find plenty of fault with President Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. The deficit, taxes, and regulation remain top concerns. But several top GOP donors say figuring out a way to “break the fever”—as Obama once put it—or at least keep their fellow party members from damaging the economy any further has become Topic A in their social set…

Zeidman pointed to the way the Republicans handled Syria, which, he said, “allowed the administration to fall on their own sword.” He contrasted that with the negotiations around the budget, which he said have overshadowed what should be a winning issue for the GOP, Obamacare.

“The Tea Party is not looking at the big picture,” he said. “In the long run it will have deleterious effects on the whole party when we could have taken the high road. There is so much going on right now with Obamacare, and no one is saying a word about it.”

“I am not writing a check to anyone,” he added. “That is not working for the American people.”

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According to Bob Corker — at least I assume it is Corker given the similar language to statements Corker has made publicly — Cruz has no strategy.

Here is what no strategy looks like:

Get the American public excited enough to pressure the GOP into forcing the issue.
Filibuster for 21 hours to direct even more attention to Obamacare.
See a sharp turn in polling against Obamacare.
Watch the government shut down.
Suggest the House of Representatives pass a bunch of funding resolutions for various parts of government.
Have the House of Representatives do exactly that.
Watch Harry Reid and Barack Obama implode before the press handling this.

Now, here is Bob Corker, Lamar Alexander, John Cornyn, and Mitch McConnell’s strategy to stop Obamacare:

Some strategy that is.

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This is it. Our endgame is to leave the whole thing shut down until the President defunds Obamacare. And if he does not defund Obamacare, we leave the whole thing shut down.

After all, if the government is not spending any money, when we collide with the debt ceiling in two weeks, we should not have to worry since the government is spending so little money.

This shutdown is about Obamacare. Congressmen, do not take your eyes off the ball. This is not about a grand bargain to restructure the tax code, reform entitlements, or raise revenue…

Congressmen, do not underestimate our desire to toss you out of office if you betray us. We are learning a lot more about government and it confirms just how wasteful it is. But this is a fight about Obamacare. Do not confuse why you are fighting.

Hold the line. Undermine Obamacare. Shut it down.

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The California Republican said a small group of lawmakers, what he calls “the lemming caucus,” have been blocking GOP House leadership for three years.

“It’s guys who meet privately. They’re always conspiring. It’s mostly just about power. And it’s just gotten us nowhere,” said Nunes.

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Cleombrotus on October 4, 2013 at 5:16 AM

I’d like to see if he’s written other stuff too but good luck googling Joseph White. Might as well google John Smith. I guess I could e-mail Glenn and ask him if the guy made any other brilliant comments. Probably should.

Anti-Control on October 4, 2013 at 5:17 AM

Enjoy, I’m outta here. This time for sure.

novaculus on October 4, 2013 at 5:30 AM

Enjoy

Thanks. I did!

I found this about it, which was an accurate summation imo: What’s most interesting about this date is how it prefigures what would become “Right Off” from Jack Johnson. It doesn’t have the same fire, nor does it manage to sustain itself for the duration, but there are some truly wonderful sections in the piece.

I’m outta here. This time for sure.

novaculus on October 4, 2013 at 5:30 AM

:)

I hope you don’t (didn’t, when you see this later) regret that last shot too much!

Anti-Control on October 4, 2013 at 5:43 AM

Good morning, kids After a very sleepless night, having just received my almost doubled in price premium news, I started thinking.

If “children” are allowed to stay on their parents’ insurance coverage until age 26, don’t you think, when they have their own plans, that we should be on their plans from, say, age 60-65? I don’t think it is entirely equitable that it is only a one-way street. “Child” coverage swap for “adult” coverage seems only fair. Surely, the writers of the Unaffordable Care Act could have thrown us a bone or two.

I’m also giving thought to just paying the one percent premium because I refuse to give my insurance number to this government on my tax form.

herm2416 on October 4, 2013 at 5:46 AM

I’m also giving thought to just paying the one percent premium because I refuse to give my insurance number to this government on my tax form.

herm2416 on October 4, 2013 at 5:46 AM

I should clarify this. I would pay this in addition to the premium.

So when obamalamadingdongcare collapses because nobody can/will register in the numbers they need to keep it afloat….whose premiums will jump even higher?

Take one guess.

herm2416 on October 4, 2013 at 5:50 AM

morning everyone!

happy its friday!!!!

cmsinaz on October 4, 2013 at 6:31 AM

Mornin’ Cmsinaz. Woke up to “little luke russert” giving the spin of the day that the shooter in DC yesterday was all the Republican’s fault and the police weren’t being paid because of Republicans. Forcing myself to watch the Fox and Friends Comedy Hour.

Had to laugh that I did see Politico back on Schmoe compare Wendy Davis to Elizabeth Warren. (Because we all know Texas is JUST like Massachusetts.)

Marcus on October 4, 2013 at 6:38 AM

Good morning, kids After a very sleepless night, having just received my almost doubled in price premium news, I started thinking.
herm2416 on October 4, 2013 at 5:46 AM

The rumor is our health care premiums will also double next year. The hubby’s employer is also giving out pretty heavy hints that that he may have to drop family coverage perhaps in 2015.

So with Obummer care, we can keep our children on our insurance until they are 26, and of course same sex domestic partners are covered, but us old and faithful spouses? Fugetta about it.

esr1951 on October 4, 2013 at 6:41 AM

Marcus on October 4, 2013 at 6:38 AM

they are good for a laugh….

I think Luke got his email from Valerie this am…I’m sure we are going to hear this meme all day long from the lsm….
those evil gop won’t pay the capitol police, yada yada yada…

cmsinaz on October 4, 2013 at 6:42 AM

Good Morning, Patriots! …And, desperate Trolls.
Have you ever seen an adolescent have a have a jumping-up-and-down, face-turning-blue, screaming, bird-flipping temper tantrum? No? Welcome to Obama’s Government Shutdown.
My take: “Obamacare Phone Number Flips Off Entire Nation”

kingsjester on October 4, 2013 at 6:46 AM

kingsjester on October 4, 2013 at 6:46 AM

Very good.

He has done nothing but ridicule, demean, and vilify me and the things value.

esr1951 on October 4, 2013 at 6:50 AM

esr1951 on October 4, 2013 at 6:50 AM

Thank you.

Obama has nothing in common with the average American.

kingsjester on October 4, 2013 at 6:57 AM

The rumor is our health care premiums will also double next year

I have Blue Cross Blue Shield of Texas for my office. I pay all the insurance for everybody. At worst, our premium is staying the same but deductible for inpatient/outpatient is tripling. I just may choose the option where our premium is halved but the deductible is quadrupled, with the caveat that none of us better end up in the hospital. Doctor visits and prescriptions would be covered at 100%.

Marcus on October 4, 2013 at 7:02 AM

Off topic, but today’s top story on CNN’s web site is The Voice of Suri.

I guess they’ve given up pretending to be a news organiztion and decided to go with the on-line version of People.

talkingpoints on October 4, 2013 at 7:03 AM

kingsjester on October 4, 2013 at 6:46 AM

another good one KJ….

cmsinaz on October 4, 2013 at 7:05 AM

Marcus on October 4, 2013 at 6:38 AM

the little twerp had to qualify his tweet on yesterdays shooting by saying “it’s no joke”

lot of gravitas the kid has.

renalin on October 4, 2013 at 7:10 AM

Woman in DC car chase thought Obama might be stalking her.

Not surprised. Every time I turn on the TV, there he is insulting me again.

esr1951 on October 4, 2013 at 7:19 AM

cmsinaz on October 4, 2013 at 7:05 AM

Thank you, ma’am!

kingsjester on October 4, 2013 at 7:20 AM

cmsinaz on October 4, 2013 at 6:31 AM
Marcus on October 4, 2013 at 6:38 AM

FYI: If near a TV this morning, consider flipping to C-SPAN’s Washington Journal. This morning, it’s broadcasting from National Review’s DC bureau.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/360350/watch-c-spans-washington-journal-live-national-reviews-washington-bureau-nro-staff

C-SPAN just cut to commercial and will be back at NRO. I’m expecting the calls from Dems to NRO folks to be epic.

BuckeyeSam on October 4, 2013 at 7:32 AM

A coalition of centrist House Republicans

I just swear I heard a chuckle of admiration for that deceit-filled phrase coming from the Old Soviet Union graves of Lenin and Stalin.

Their really ought to be awards for liberals like the Oscars. Best lie of the year, Most cunning from our spooks on the right, Best propaganda words repeated unwisely by Fox News, my favorite is the John (a Golden toilet seat)Award, in honor of our friends, Boehner and McCain.

Centrist indeed as if God invited Satan to give his view at the Sermon on the Mount (in the name of compromise and moderation)

Don L on October 4, 2013 at 7:33 AM

Thanks for the heads up buckeye

cmsinaz on October 4, 2013 at 7:40 AM

OT: drudge has a link on why the cops shot an unarmed women

The dems were all praise for the police yesterday….. something tells me the dems/lsm will turn around and pounce on them soon

cmsinaz on October 4, 2013 at 7:52 AM

My take: “Obamacare Phone Number Flips Off Entire Nation”

kingsjester on October 4, 2013 at 6:46 AM

…someone’s a little feisty today (:->)

KOOLAID2 on October 4, 2013 at 8:01 AM

The question this non-lawyer mind (thank you God) asks is, can an independent congress refuse to fund a law that a different one a previous congress passed? (Don’t ask John Roberts –he thinks abortion is a tax)
If each congress has the authority to make law, then each congress also has the constitutional authority to decide whether to fund, or not, any previous laws.
If one branch of government (Obama) can unilaterally “go around congress” then congress itself, as another equal branch of government, can also (go around congress.)

If they must fund Obamacare, doesn’t the sum of $1.00 cover that legal requirement? No other branch of government (such as the politicized Supreme court) can usurp their particular authority (funding)

Am I ill or what?

Don L on October 4, 2013 at 8:02 AM

Am I ill or what?

Don L on October 4, 2013 at 8:02 AM

…no!…but a panel will decide that!

KOOLAID2 on October 4, 2013 at 8:19 AM

Well done, KJ!

Captain Kickass …..not so much. President Petulance, indeed.

herm2416 on October 4, 2013 at 8:26 AM

A coalition of centrist House Republicans

Right! That’s just like calling them pragmatists.

onlineanalyst on October 4, 2013 at 8:35 AM

Obama could run against Putin and win!

racquetballer on October 4, 2013 at 8:39 AM

KOOLAID2 on October 4, 2013 at 8:01 AM

Momma always said that I had a long fuse, which led to a case of dynamite. :)

herm2416 on October 4, 2013 at 8:26 AM

Thank you!

kingsjester on October 4, 2013 at 8:40 AM

Almost all of the TARP “investments” were booked as FY2009 expenditures. The fact that the repayments have been booked in the fiscal year they were made (with most of them after FY2009 ended) speaks ill of the succeeding years.

Porkulus was pretty much evenly booked between FY2009 and FY2010, with a bit in FY2011.

Steve Eggleston on October 3, 2013 at 11:35 PM

Do the Continuing Resolutions continue spending at levels that included those “one-time” expenditures?

I.E., have we been paying for those things (TARP, Porkulus, etc.) multiple times?

ITguy on October 4, 2013 at 9:54 AM

I’m a big fan of waltz and the classics, But can ya do this to a Johann Strauss tune?

whatcat on October 4, 2013 at 1:57 AM

Life is so much more interesting when you can enjoy both, and way more :)

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 12:01 PM

But I’m not sure. Did you listen to the Blind Willie tune I linked above (this page)?

This one:

Dark Was The Night

Sorry for my mix-up about the commenter you’re enthralled with and the deep/good music. I had trouble with volume settings that wouldn’t stay put on Youtube last night and with the world. I just listened to the wonderful blind man. Thank you. They put the wrong picture up at one point but it’s ok.

I thought I remembered you commenting that you liked the traditional blues, so I thought you might like it.

novaculus on October 4, 2013 at 2:27 AM

Like and feel them. Last night I felt nothing. I just observed how insane things are. I left immediately after commenting to your note. Just now read and listened.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Schad, we’ve had this discussion before but bloody H, some of us have children and don’t want this. That Nunes guy is a pinprck of the highest order. I guess I should just stay away…parts of today were pretty fun around here and then I read these QOTD;s and want to use a butter knife on my wrists.

Rant off.

MontanaMmmm on October 4, 2013 at 2:41 AM

My dear good MontanaMmmm, why you even for one second get mad at me is a mystery and shouldn’t be. It s/b way obvious by now that I say what I do out of regret for the lost land, for her children and grandchildren. We leave them a criminal mess.

I’m brutal because I am still alive. So long as I can I will fight the thugs, hard. They are on both sides. I realize this now, more than ever. I hold them in more contempt than the Utopian leftist hyenas. I am one of those who don’t even mind dying in the process. I hate them that much. NO, I don’t hate them. I absolutely despise them.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2013 at 12:17 PM

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