Obama: Imagine if workers could shut down a manufacturing plant just because they didn’t get what they want

posted at 12:41 pm on October 3, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via Charles Cooke. Imagine it. Imagine a movement so selfish that it would sabotage the operations of a venture on which vast numbers of people depend simply to gain leverage for its own agenda. Then imagine that that movement grew in numbers to the point where it could elect its own bought-and-paid-for politicians to do its bidding. Who knows how much havoc it could wreak? When you think about it, Democrats are right: It really is a sort of terrorism.

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IF THIS NEW STORM HITS TX, I WANT TED CRUZ TO STAY STRONG AND NOT CAVE!! PAY FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES OUT OF YOUR OWN POCKET!

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on October 3, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Texas has a rainy day fund. They run surpluses, unlike wherever you are.

itsspideyman on October 3, 2013 at 3:05 PM

I’m sure I’m not the first to say this but what in the hell does he think a strike is? You know, Obama, the things your union buddies use constantly to coerce businesses.

rplat on October 3, 2013 at 3:06 PM

I’m sure I’m not the first to say this but what in the hell does he think a strike is? You know, Obama, the things your union buddies use constantly to coerce businesses.
rplat on October 3, 2013 at 3:06 PM

Yep, exactly what I was going to say, not having had time to read the previous pages.

LegendHasIt on October 3, 2013 at 3:09 PM

So now the earflapped mincing imbecile is speaking out against unions going on strike. Trumka must be reeeeeeeeeeeally happy he hitched his wagon up to this ridicutarded horse (‘s arse).

This tortured and idiotic jibber jabber is painful to watch, and princess golfsalot burped it up in order to make a moronic analogy between factory workers going on strike and congressmen pursuing constitutional means to achieve their goals. That being something Democrats have neeeeeever done. Ever. Except all during the last half of the Bush administration. And during the entirety of the Reagan administration. And on and frickin’ on.

Also- this “shutdown” we’re under… is it not the result of the congress declining to vote for yet another contintuing resolution?

Aren’t said continuing resolutions in existence to fund the government on a spot “emergency” basis due to a budget not being passed? Something that Obama and Reid have signally failed to do for the entirety of the O’dumbshite infestation of the white house?

The nevada pedophile won’t even bring the matter to the Senate floor for discussion, despite the congress having passed multiple budgets the last three years. Which is against the law.

Though in Barky the unicorn rider’s world, the law just doesn’t apply, now does it?

Pathetic on all levels. Zero points awarded. You are sentenced to go live in Altgeld Gardens, Barry Soetero.

Get thee gone, you gangly coke scarred dope. And take your hideous greed monster “wife” with you.

GrassMudHorsey on October 3, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Man, his aids should give him a colon cleanser or something, get that dope out of his system…
jimver on October 3, 2013 at 1:58 PM

0bama has aids?

Well, I can’t say I’m surprised.

I wonder if Reggie has been tested.

LegendHasIt on October 3, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Obama: Imagine if workers could shut down a manufacturing plant just because they didn’t get what they want

What I cannot get over is this analogy:

“What if the Government could shut down a War Monument
because they didn’t get what they want??

ToddPA on October 3, 2013 at 1:03 PM

What if Harry Reid and Barack Obama could shut down clinical trial treatments for kids with cancer, because Reid and Obama didn’t get what they want?

ITguy on October 3, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Regardless of the Prezident’s idiocy or being a compulsive liar, whatever is up with the guy-what’s more disturbing is all those people in the audience that agreed with him!

WTH?

Dr. ZhivBlago on October 3, 2013 at 3:48 PM

That’s real retarded, Sir

/Jeantel

D-fusit on October 3, 2013 at 1:53 PM

LOL!

:-)

ITguy on October 3, 2013 at 3:57 PM

I’m sure I’m not the first to say this but what in the hell does he think a strike is? You know, Obama, the things your union buddies use constantly to coerce businesses.

rplat on October 3, 2013 at 3:06 PM

That’s not a strike. A strike is refusing to work. A lock-out is closing the plant. Workers can strike but cannot lock-out(as they don’t own the plant and, thus, cannot close it).

segasagez on October 3, 2013 at 3:57 PM

That’s real retarded, Sir

/Jeantel

D-fusit on October 3, 2013 at 1:53 PM

I agree. The critics of his comment are simply wrong. It’s not even a difference of opinion. They are incontrovertibly wrong.

segasagez on October 3, 2013 at 3:59 PM

SMH, the d-lister cleanup crew is here to navelgaze over the definition of is.

Murphy9 on October 3, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Talking points:

“They’re not talking points,” Roberts exclaimed, referring to a speech Obama gave in Maryland moments before the exchange. “That’s directly from what the president just gave a speech on.”

http://freebeacon.com/rnc-chairman-lights-up-msnbc-anchor/

davidk on October 3, 2013 at 4:09 PM

bama: Imagine if workers could shut down a manufacturing plant just because they didn’t get what they want

What I cannot get over is this analogy:

“What if the Government could shut down a War Monument
because they didn’t get what they want??

ToddPA on October 3, 2013 at 1:03 PM

What if Harry Reid and Barack Obama could shut down clinical trial treatments for kids with cancer, because Reid and Obama didn’t get what they want?

ITguy on October 3, 2013 at 3:32 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/02/why-would-want-to-do-that/

davidk on October 3, 2013 at 4:14 PM

This is how Obama enjoys instilling fear against the American people. No wonder the Democrats all walk in lockstep with Obamas wishes because they know how Obama would adjust the screws if they dared to cross him. To me, that is very disturbing.

mobydutch on October 3, 2013 at 4:14 PM

How will Obama handle our next election? Just saying……

mobydutch on October 3, 2013 at 4:20 PM

To tell the truth, the majority of his supporters are to dumb to realize the implications of his statement.

Barred on October 3, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Do you think this went by even his union supporters heads?

I’ve never been pro-union, but I like the idea of a government shutdown as a taxpayer strike.

talkingpoints on October 3, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Oddly enough, on this issue, big labor agrees with the GOP. SO maybe it’s got Obama confused.

hawksruleva on October 3, 2013 at 5:10 PM

I put Obama’s idiotic comment up on my facebook page, and this was a friend’s comment on that.

Isn’t that what Congress did? Hmmmm……maybe we should fire them, like the President suggests.

LibraryGryffon on October 3, 2013 at 5:14 PM

He’s joking, right? Tell me he’s joking. Tell me he knows very well what unions do, and do well. Is this guy on drugs, or is he a born delusional idiot? Or is he your typical marxist liar?

HiJack on October 3, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Isn’t this the guy who’s trying to shut down the coal industry.

RdLake on October 3, 2013 at 5:31 PM

“This is what democracy looks like”…which usually includes r@pe tents, destroyed bathrooms, and trust fund babies destroying a once beautiful park. But, it also includes thing union members shutting down a manufacturing plant…haven’t you ever seen Norma Rae, you phucking hack buffoon????

RovesChins on October 3, 2013 at 5:35 PM

IF THIS NEW STORM HITS TX, I WANT TED CRUZ TO STAY STRONG AND NOT CAVE!! PAY FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES OUT OF YOUR OWN POCKET!

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on October 3, 2013 at 2:02 PM

He would probably pay faster than FEMA, jack@$$,

RovesChins on October 3, 2013 at 5:37 PM

That’s not a strike. A strike is refusing to work. A lock-out is closing the plant. Workers can strike but cannot lock-out(as they don’t own the plant and, thus, cannot close it).

segasagez on October 3, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Wrong. Twice. A strike is a concerted refusal by a bargaining unit to report for work. And the object of a strike IS to close down operations, which it typically does. Simply “refusing to work” is described under various other terms, such as insubordination, malingering, a slow-down, “working to rule”– and quitting. A lock-out is a refusal by a firm to admit members of a bargaining unit to the firm’s facility. The firm may employ temporary workers to continue operations until the labor dispute is resolved. But you are correct that workers cannot (for obvious reasons) lock-out.

Barnestormer on October 3, 2013 at 5:47 PM

After all this time, the WH and President still do not know the first rule of hole digging.

Athos on October 3, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Twinkies.

What happens when workers walk out cuz they want sumpin?

No one gets to eat Twinkies anymore.

Then the workers get fired. Then somebody buys the Twinkie trademark, and offers jobs to former Twinkie-men at half the salary.

Yes. This is how it is supposed to work.

ps: Twinkies are back on the shelf. And the union is gone.

BobMbx on October 3, 2013 at 6:05 PM

Wrong. Twice. A strike is a concerted refusal by a bargaining unit to report for work. And the object of a strike IS to close down operations, which it typically does. Simply “refusing to work” is described under various other terms, such as insubordination, malingering, a slow-down, “working to rule”– and quitting. A lock-out is a refusal by a firm to admit members of a bargaining unit to the firm’s facility. The firm may employ temporary workers to continue operations until the labor dispute is resolved. But you are correct that workers cannot (for obvious reasons) lock-out.

Barnestormer on October 3, 2013 at 5:47 PM

How is that any different then what I said?

And you’re conflating the goal with the method.

Answer this question: can striking workers legally shut down a manufacturing plant?

segasagez on October 3, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Answer this question: can striking workers legally shut down a manufacturing plant?

segasagez on October 3, 2013 at 6:27 PM

They do it all the time.
What’s your point?

dentarthurdent on October 3, 2013 at 6:32 PM

I was going to check the NLRB, but you stupid democrats have shut down the gubmint.

http://mynlrb.nlrb.gov/

Murphy9 on October 3, 2013 at 6:35 PM

Answer this question: can striking workers legally shut down a manufacturing plant?

segasagez on October 3, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Of course, if (in a typical case) they are successful in intimidating temporary replacement workers from crossing a picket line and are not enjoined as a result of engaging in an unfair labor practice.

Barnestormer on October 3, 2013 at 6:49 PM

Imagine if workers could shut down a manufacturing plant just because they didn’t get what they want

…those lyrics nearly fit into John Lennon’s “Imagine”.

socalcon on October 3, 2013 at 6:53 PM

IF THIS NEW STORM HITS TX, I WANT TED CRUZ TO STAY STRONG AND NOT CAVE!! PAY FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES OUT OF YOUR OWN POCKET!

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on October 3, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Won’t happen…Dear Leader is capable of calming the Seas.

socalcon on October 3, 2013 at 6:55 PM

OK. All the MJ has definitely given this fool brain damage.
.

.
.
Or, maybe he’s always been this…….numbed out stupefied?

avagreen on October 3, 2013 at 7:10 PM

Imagine if workers could shut down a manufacturing plant just because they didn’t get what they want

I predicted a while back that The One would at some point have a meltdown and not only completely lose touch with reality, but actually go into full-on Caligula mode. (He was the Roman emperor who thought he was a god, a horse was a Senator, his sister was really his mother and his wife, several guys were his wives, and etc.)

But I expected it after the Dems lost control of the Senate, too, in ’14. Not this soon.

I am forced to conclude that he was less stable, and closer to the edge, than I thought.

BTW, for those looking for the type of disorder that causes this sort of behavior;

Signs and symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia

The defining feature of paranoid schizophrenia is absurd or suspicious ideas and beliefs. These ideas typically revolve around a coherent, organized theme or “story” that remains consistent over time. Delusions of persecution are the most frequent theme, however delusions of grandeur are also common.

People with paranoid schizophrenia show a history of increasing paranoia and difficulties in their relationships. They tend to function better than individuals with other schizophrenic subtypes. In contrast, their thinking and behavior is less disordered and their long-term prognosis is better.

Signs and symptoms of disorganized schizophrenia

Disorganized schizophrenia generally appears at an earlier age than other types of schizophrenia. Its onset is gradual, rather than abrupt, with the person gradually retreating into his or her fantasies.
The distinguishing characteristics of this subtype are disorganized speech, disorganized behavior, and blunted or inappropriate emotions. People with disorganized schizophrenia also have trouble taking care of themselves, and may be unable to perform simple tasks such as bathing or feeding themselves.
The symptoms of disorganized schizophrenia include:

Impaired communication skills
Incomprehensible or illogical speech
Inappropriate reactions (e.g. laughing at a funeral)

Emotional indifference
Infantile behavior (baby talk, giggling)
Peculiar facial expressions and mannerisms

People with disorganized schizophrenia sometimes suffer from hallucinations and delusions, but unlike the paranoid subtype, their fantasies aren’t consistent or organized.

Schizophrenia; Signs, Symptoms, Types, Causes, and Effects

Note that these categories are not exclusionary. A patient with symptoms of both subtypes is referred to as having a “mixed” disorder state. Such states are more common with type 2 paranoid schizophrenic conditions, as opposed to type 1 conditions.

Also, type 2 PS sufferers are more likely to exhibit violent symptomatology, i.e., to present a physical danger to themselves and/or others.

(Applied Psychology 202)

clear ether

eon

eon on October 3, 2013 at 7:15 PM

Anti Declration of Independance? “We the people, inorder to form a more purfect Union”.

jpcpt03 on October 3, 2013 at 7:27 PM

Imagine if elected representatives in a republic could shut down
parts of a government just because their constituents demanded it.

Barnestormer on October 3, 2013 at 7:39 PM

This makes it official. Barack Obama is the most ignorant president we have ever had.

paulus1 on October 3, 2013 at 7:53 PM

How is that any different then what I said?

And you’re conflating the goal with the method.

Answer this question: can striking workers legally shut down a manufacturing plant?

segasagez on October 3, 2013 at 6:27 PM

You’re talking about semantic differences that don’t mean squat.

Can striking workers OFFICIALLY shut down a manufacturing plant? No.

Can they effectively shut down a plant? Absolutely. The goal is met, whether it’s an “official” shutdown it’s just a forced stop in production, due to lack of workers.

Unions do this, or attempt to do this, all the time. Obama had a real epic fail moment here. This will be bigger than “you didn’t build that!”

JannyMae on October 3, 2013 at 7:55 PM

This from the community organizer in chief.

I guess we’ve gone through the looking glass.

Shay on October 3, 2013 at 8:12 PM

JannyMae on October 3, 2013 at 7:55 PM

I would substitute physically for officially, but otherwise fully agree. Strikers don’t walk into plants and throw switches, but then neither do legislators march on the Treasury and turn off printers (or unplug computers). Strikers withhold services and intimidate replacements. Legislators withhold financing authorizations (tax legislation, appropriations, borrowing authority). Shutdowns (or slowdowns) are the consequences of those actions (no labor or no cash). Obama’s statement was mind-numbingly stupid.

Barnestormer on October 3, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Of course, if (in a typical case) they are successful in intimidating temporary replacement workers from crossing a picket line and are not enjoined as a result of engaging in an unfair labor practice.

Barnestormer on October 3, 2013 at 6:49 PM

You’re adding caveats that aren’t part of a strike though. They’re tactics that make a strike more effective. You’re saying that if the workers strike AND if they intimidate replacement workers from crossing picket lines AND both of those actions are legal. Strikes are only as effective as the strikers are at preventing other people from doing the job they stopped doing.

A strike alone cannot stop a business. Teacher’s unions strike all the time(it seems). Sometimes the schools are open and some times they aren’t.

Is what the President said terribly effective? Nope. But being ineffective and being wrong are two different things.

segasagez on October 3, 2013 at 9:07 PM

Unions do this, or attempt to do this, all the time. Obama had a real epic fail moment here. This will be bigger than “you didn’t build that!”

JannyMae on October 3, 2013 at 7:55 PM

This qualifier is exactly my point. Unions strike in an attempt to shut down a business. And effective strike does and an ineffective strike doesn’t. You readily admit that. Doesn’t that mean that, by definition, a strike doesn’t shut down a plant?

segasagez on October 3, 2013 at 9:09 PM

I would substitute physically for officially, but otherwise fully agree. Strikers don’t walk into plants and throw switches, but then neither do legislators march on the Treasury and turn off printers (or unplug computers). Strikers withhold services and intimidate replacements. Legislators withhold financing authorizations (tax legislation, appropriations, borrowing authority). Shutdowns (or slowdowns) are the consequences of those actions (no labor or no cash). Obama’s statement was mind-numbingly stupid.

Barnestormer on October 3, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Strikers walk out. The business has options available to continue running. Legislators walk out (on passing a bill that funds aspects of the government). Does the government have options on keeping those aspects of the government running?

segasagez on October 3, 2013 at 9:11 PM

That sounds like something Plugs would say.

diogenes on October 3, 2013 at 9:14 PM

This qualifier is exactly my point. Unions strike in an attempt to shut down a business. And effective strike does and an ineffective strike doesn’t. You readily admit that. Doesn’t that mean that, by definition, a strike doesn’t shut down a plant?

segasagez on October 3, 2013 at 9:09 PM

No, it means that an unsuccessful strike doesn’t shut down a plant. And what it doesn’t mean is that no strike is successful in shutting down a plant. In your own words, “Unions strike in an attempt to shut down a business.” So, let’s imagine a strike followed immediately by a shutdown of that business (it’s easy if you try.) Are you really arguing that the strike didn’t cause the shutdown? Maybe management just coincidentally decided on a little hiatus coincident with the strike?

Barnestormer on October 3, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Strikers walk out. The business has options available to continue running.
segasagez on October 3, 2013 at 9:11 PM

A struck business has options to attempt to keep running. Obviously, not all attempts succeed, or there wouldn’t have been any successful strikes… I imagine.

Barnestormer on October 3, 2013 at 9:46 PM

And why the phony, g-dropping black accent?

“Everybody here just does their job, right? You don’t—if, if, if, if, if you’re workin’ here, and, in the middle of the day you just stopped and said, ‘You know what? I wanna get somethin’ but I don’t know… I don’t know exactly what I’m, I’m gonna get, but I’m just gonna stop workin’ ’til I get somethin’— and I’m gonna, I’m gonna try to shut down the whole plant, until I get somethin’. You’d get fired! Right? ’Cause, ’cause the deal is you’ve already gotten hired, you got a job, you’re getting a paycheck, and so, you also are getting the pride of doing a good job, and contributing ta [sic; to] a business, and lookin’ out for your fellow workers—that’s what you’re getting. Well, it shouldn’t be any different for a member of Congress.”

Colony14 on October 3, 2013 at 10:17 PM

SMH, the d-lister cleanup crew is here to navelgaze over the definition of is.

Murphy9 on October 3, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Murphy9 on October 3, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Clearly the recent twinkie factory shutdown and shortage got to the President.

oryguncon on October 3, 2013 at 10:54 PM

He’s joking, right? Tell me he’s joking. Tell me he knows very well what unions do, and do well. Is this guy on drugs, or is he a born delusional idiot? Or is he your typical marxist liar?

HiJack on October 3, 2013 at 5:14 PM

…all of the above!

KOOLAID2 on October 3, 2013 at 11:13 PM

He gets pissed & first thing he goes after is military & veterans, and he keeps getting away with it.

RdLake on October 3, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Hell, didn’t the Bakers Union just put Hostess out of business…Oh, he was talking about something else?

rgranger on October 4, 2013 at 12:07 AM

Workers can strike but cannot lock-out(as they don’t own the plant and, thus, cannot close it).

segasagez on October 3, 2013 at 3:57 PM

And no businessman can close a plant he doesn’t own.

However, the Feds are doing that very thing with some of the leased operations on national parkland (not run by the government), and in state parks.

AesopFan on October 4, 2013 at 12:08 AM

Protect the queen, pawns.

rogerb on October 4, 2013 at 8:17 AM

Protect the queen, pawns.

rogerb on October 4, 2013 at 8:17 AM

Exactly.

ITguy on October 4, 2013 at 8:27 AM

Obama,

You didn’t say that!

You did not say that!!!!

itsspideyman on October 4, 2013 at 9:24 AM

Well it is the DEMOCRATS that are shutting everything down as much as possible because they are not getting unconditional blank check from the house of representatives.

It seems MR constitutional Scholor does not know the house of rep controls the spending, and they can approve spending for the branches of govt. Which they are doing

IT IS THE DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED SENATE WHICH IS CLOSING EVERYTHING DOWN.
Say is this how obama will cut the deficit like he promised in 2008

sniffles1999 on October 4, 2013 at 9:59 AM

He’s joking, right? Tell me he’s joking. Tell me he knows very well what unions do, and do well. Is this guy on drugs, or is he a born delusional idiot? Or is he your typical marxist liar?

HiJack on October 3, 2013 at 5:14 PM

IMHO he was joking, pulling the strings on the public, jerking the chains.

He knows exactly how the statement would read. Just like he knows to install stronger fencing on the WWII memorial, AFTER the publicity with the geezers in wheelchairs

This is the Obama MO – he has to create consternation by contradiction, by insane New-Speak, until the public loses the ability to fight, and loses total trust in the current non socialist state. Saul Alinsky all the way

That is why the Obamacare phone number probably really did spell out 1-800 dash EFF dash YO …

If it didnt, he probably wished he had thought of it

Each one of his dung balls throws the dog pack off track from their goals.

entagor on October 4, 2013 at 2:26 PM

so Obama is now AGAINST A UNIONS RIGHT TO STRIKE
is that what he is saying

sounds like it to me.

sniffles1999 on October 4, 2013 at 8:02 PM

“So selfish”? Who? I remember Eastern Airlines! I guess Obama was can’t remember that. HIS buddies, the UNIONS, shut them down. OK, they’re history.

Maybe he does fondly remember that shutdown and is proceeding now with the shut down of all sorts of Memorials and even the OCEAN!

Sounds like he has fingered himself.

rpupton on October 5, 2013 at 10:59 AM

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