Breaking: Obama invites Congressional leaders to WH shutdown summit

posted at 11:43 am on October 2, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Maybe Chris Christie’s criticism stung a little more than imagined.  After sitting on the sidelines for weeks, Barack Obama has finally called a meeting to resolve the budget standoff:

A White House official says President Barack Obama has invited congressional leaders to the White House Wednesday for a meeting on the government shutdown.

The official says Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, House Speaker John Boehner, and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi have been invited to the meeting. The official says Obama will urge the House to pass a spending bill to allow the government to reopen.

The meeting will take place at 5:30 this afternoon, according to a number of news reports:

Old and busted: Obama refuses to negotiate with bomb-strapping, gun-pointing legislators. New hotness: Time to talk about budgets, now that the media is … focusing on the White House’s efforts to keep nonagenarians from accessing public memorials?  The White House will probably point to this story instead:

The U.S. Army’s chief of staff on Wednesday urged a rapid resolution of a funding row that has led to a government shutdown, saying it was significantly harming the army’s day-to-day operations.

General Ray Odierno said the shutdown, the first in 17 years, “impacts significantly day-to-day operations”, forcing the military to cut training, travel and focus on tasks that were essential to current operations.

“The longer it goes on, the worse it gets. Every day that goes by, we are losing manpower, we are losing capability, so in my mind it is important we get this resolved,” he told Reuters in a telephone interview from Germany, where he was attending a conference.

Don’t bet on that being the reason, though. The executive branch’s handling of the shutdown has been a disaster, as has been the rollout of the ObamaCare exchanges.  They need to win a messaging cycle badly now, and one way of doing that is to broker a fix on funding the government — perhaps even with a concession on Congressional exemptions to ObamaCare, if not an agreement on a repeal of the highly-unpopular medical device tax. If nothing else, Obama may wrangle a one-week clean CR from Reid in order to dial down the bad press.

Update: Boehner declares victory:

Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck released a statement welcoming the invite: “We’re pleased the president finally recognizes that his refusal to negotiate is indefensible. It’s unclear why we’d be having this meeting if it’s not meant to be a start to serious talks between the two parties.”

We’ll see.

Update: Congressional Democrats will hold pressers today, but …

Stealing thunder, etc etc.

Update: The Washington Examiner offers a headline that pretty much explains why the White House is in retreat now: “Shutdown overreach: More guards at WWII memorial than Benghazi; Park Service closes park it doesn’t run.” Truly mind-boggling incompetence.


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If nothing else, Obama may wrangle a one-week clean CR from Reid in order to dial down the bad press.

I don’t see anything coming out of this if the lazy stupid coward and his minions continue demanding stuff without giving any sort of compromise. And I don’t see the GOP going along with a “clean” CR that merely punts this issue by a week.

And one week doesn’t do anything for the administration either. They’d have just taken down the barricades at all the memorials before they would have to put them back up.

Happy Nomad on October 2, 2013 at 1:39 PM

It’s a trap…

PatriotRider on October 2, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Or he’s just going to say, ok I listened to you, now go do what I want, as he has countless times before.

dogsoldier on October 2, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Rs, hold strong. YOU are Putin.

Schadenfreude on October 2, 2013 at 1:39 PM

It’s a trap…

PatriotRider on October 2, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Or he’s just going to say, ok I listened to you, now go do what I want, as he has countless times before.

dogsoldier on October 2, 2013 at 1:31 PM

After being burned over and over by this guy, if they’re dumb enough to go behind closed doors with this Alinsky scum, hero of the facist, baby killing, pedophile party without witnesses, camera? They get what they deserve. But we don’t,C-span! Bring’em in! Now!

onomo on October 2, 2013 at 1:39 PM

It’ll go like Syria did.

Schadenfreude on October 2, 2013 at 1:39 PM

“Truly mind-boggling incompetence.”

Pretty much…

Seven Percent Solution on October 2, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Park Service closes park it doesn’t run.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…oh man this gets better by the hour.

Bishop on October 2, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Just look at how Obama immediately dealt with the Sequester – by cancelling the White House tours for 13 year old girls.

Scorpion and the Frog.

Chuck Schick on October 2, 2013 at 12:27 PM

And yet he’s not cancelling his pricey foreign tour.

Del Dolemonte on October 2, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Mitch McConnell needs to take Ted Cruz with him.
Not to negotiate, or even speak.
Just to, like, sit there.

mrt721 on October 2, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Oh! I disagree. Ted Cruz should come in with the Senate GOP delegation and say one word………….. Boo!

Happy Nomad on October 2, 2013 at 1:40 PM

The Huffington Post is keeping count and provides a current list of GOP congressmen ready to fully fund Obamacare and give up the spending fight that resulted in the first partial government shutdown in 17 years [emphasis added]:

Rep. Pat Meehan (R-Pa.): “At this point, I believe it’s time for the House to vote for a clean, short-term funding bill to bring the Senate to the table and negotiate a responsible compromise.” [Press Release, 10/1/13]

Rep. Scott Rigell (R-Va.): “Time for a clean [continuing resolution].” [Official Twitter, 10/1/13]

Rep. Jon Runyan (R-N.J.): “Enough is enough. Put a clean [continuing resolution] on the floor and let’s get on with the business we were sent to do.” [Burlington County Times, 10/1/13]

Rep. Mike Fitzpatrick (R-Pa.): A Fitzpatrick aide tells the Philadelphia Inquirer the congressman would support a clean funding bill if it came up for a vote. [Philadelphia Inquirer, 10/1/13]

Rep. Lou Barletta (R-Pa.): Barletta said he would “absolutely” vote for a clean bill in order to avert a shut down of the government. [Bethlehem Morning Call, 10/1/13]

Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.): King thinks House Republicans would prefer to avoid a shutdown and said he will only vote for a clean continuing resolution to fund the government, according to the National Review Online. [NRO, 9/30/13]

Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.): The California Republican told The Huffington Post he would ultimately support a clean continuing resolution. [Tweet by The Huffington Post's Sabrina Siddiqui, 9/30/13]

Rep. Charlie Dent (R-Pa.): “I’m prepared to vote for a clean [continuing resolution].” [The Huffington Post, 9/29/13]

Rep. Frank Wolf (R-Va.): A Wolf aide told The Hill that he agrees with fellow Virginia Rep. Scott Rigell (R) that it’s time for a clean continuing resolution. [The Hill, 10/1/13]

Rep. Michael Grimm (R-N.Y.): A Grimm aide told The Huffington Post that the congressman supports a clean continuing resolution. [10/1/13].

Rep. Erik Paulsen (R-Minn.): A local news anchor in Minnesota tweeted that Paulsen told him he would vote for a clean resolution if given the chance. [Blake McCoy Tweet, 10/1/13]

Rep. Rob Wittman (R-Va.): A constituent of Wittman’s sent The Huffington Post an email she got from the congressman indicating he would vote for a clean funding bill but hasn’t had “an opportunity to do so at this point.” [10/1/13]

IF they haven’t turned off their FB comments pages, you might let them know what you think of their position. Also you can call their offices. I would recommend their LOCAL OFFICES not the Capitol switchboard.

PappyD61 on October 2, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Why are we even trusting Bohner? when is Hot Gas going to discuss Bohner COS emails with Reid’s COS where Bohner wants to betray us all?

AH_C on October 2, 2013 at 1:46 PM

Here’s one wobbly Congressman.

Rep. Rob Wittman

Yorktown, VA 23690
Phone: (757) 874-6687

Stafford, Virginia 22554
Phone: (540) 659-2734

Tappahannock, VA 22560
Phone: (804) 443-0668

Take a few minutes if you live in his district or know some family that does….THEY WILL hear from us.

PappyD61 on October 2, 2013 at 1:46 PM

I’ve never read a more delusional post in my life, except for the one Ace posted over at his site.

Mr. Arkadin on October 2, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Park Service even closing facilities that haven’t been support by the government since 1981.

Cindy Munford on October 2, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Maybe Chris Christie’s criticism stung a little more than imagined. After sitting on the sidelines for weeks, Barack Obama has finally called a meeting to make it appear he is trying to resolve the budget standoff:

Edited. Added the bolded text, for accuracy.

farsighted on October 2, 2013 at 1:53 PM

Benedict Boehner.

Just as a reminder…..

House Speaker John Boehner’s staff is advising the White House on what to say to win Republican votes for U.S. military action in Syria, according to National Review.

Boehner (R-Ohio) said last week he supports President Barack Obama’s call for action, one of relatively few Republicans to say so publicly. With Obama set to address the nation Tuesday, the speaker’s staff is advising White House chief of staff Denis McDonough on what the president needs to say to win GOP support, National Review reported.


And this from last year…..

At a press conference Thursday, Boehner (R-Ohio) defended Huma Abedin, the deputy chief of staff to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and the wife of former Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.).

Boehner said he did not know Abedin well, but that “from everything that I know of her she has a sterling character. I think accusations like this being thrown around are pretty dangerous.”

Boehner is the latest high-profile GOP official to criticize the charges by Bachmann and four other GOP lawmakers that Abedin could be using her position at the State Department to aid the Muslim Brotherhood.

In a letter to the inspectors general at several government agencies, the five GOP lawmakers said Abedin’s position affords her access to Clinton, and that the State Department has “taken actions recently that have been enormously favorable to the Muslim Brotherhood.”

and this….
The leaks, which are a major taboo in Washington, show Boehner (R-Ohio) worked behind the scenes earlier this year to address confusion over a provision in the Affordable Care Act that would force members of Congress and their aides into the exchanges. In fact, if one were to go by the leaks, which were first published by Politico, it appears that the offices of Boehner and Reid regularly coordinated to exempt Congress from the health care law.

And as a side note this little whiny Sean Duffy piece. Poor wittle MTV baby.

Rep. Sean Duffy (R-Wis.) lashed out at Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) on Friday, saying House Republicans were “tired of being abused” by the Tea Party favorite who talks big about defunding ObamaCare but won’t “get in the ring” now that it’s time to fight.

“You should’ve been on the floor and back in the Cloak Room,” Duffy said Friday on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” referring to the atmosphere among House Republicans this week during discussions on a stopgap spending bill that defunds the healthcare law.


Duffy said Friday there were days in Congress where House lawmakers couldn’t get any work done because constituents flooded the phone lines demanding he and others take up Cruz’s cause to defund ObamaCare.

Throw out the entire gop leadership team, and start over THEY are not with US.

PappyD61 on October 2, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Gird up your loins, Boner. Here’s what you do to keep your job after the leaks of your emails with Dingy Harry going back months with attempts to stab conservatives and for that matter America in the back. Maybe, but from you it’ll be your Hail Mary Pass to save your job.

Just send all the GOP home for 30 days and say you won’t come back until they agree to serious negotiations like 10% across the board cuts from last year.

Oh and the ante goes up each week. Week 2 it’s 10% from 2011 and after that, 10% from 2010

If nothing by November 1st the new negotiation position is outright repeal while we still have the insurance companies around. Plus tort reform, shopping across borders and elimination of any mandates on what’s in the policy. Oh and 10% cut from 2009.

The clock starts ticking now.

Then go home and wait for their counter offer.

Oboobi can’t even make recess appointments if the govt is shutdown.

This is what a republic looks like when the House exercises its power of the purse.

If Boner can’t play hardball, then the next vote the House needs to have is to get rid of Boner & Can’ter. Stick Gohmert in as the new SOH.

AH_C on October 2, 2013 at 1:56 PM

…ready to negotiate… The Republicans must be as brutal as the left if they are to succeed.

rplat on October 2, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Speaking of negotiations. The Norks will typically begin negotiations (where they want food and money) with some beligerant act, just to knock the US negotiators off-center.

On an NK ‘Watcher’ blog, I suggested a novel approach: At the beginning of the meeting, The US lead punches the NK lead square in the nose, then says “Now, let’s negoitiate”.

Boehner? Boehner??

Tsar of Earth on October 2, 2013 at 1:57 PM

Schadenfreude on October 2, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Yes. they need to Hold fast.

dogsoldier on October 2, 2013 at 1:57 PM

This is an invitation offered out of weakness, not strength.

It’s all about restoring the optics that the WH is losing over their overreach in trying to make the shutdown as painful as possible.

The goal isn’t about compromise, it’s about bluffing the GOP representatives into surrendering now – so the precedent is set for another GOP surrender during the debt ceiling countdown.

Athos on October 2, 2013 at 1:58 PM

If any of you live in Sean Duffy’s district you might give him a call and let him know how much you appreciate his efforts standing with CRUZ AND LEE.

Hudson, WI 54016
Phone: 715-808-8160

Superior, WI 54880
Phone: 715-392-3984

Wausau, WI 54403
Phone: (715) 298-9344

We know he loves to hear from his district. He told us on Morning Joe.

PappyD61 on October 2, 2013 at 2:00 PM

On an NK ‘Watcher’ blog, I suggested a novel approach: At the beginning of the meeting, The US lead punches the NK lead square in the nose, then says “Now, let’s negoitiate”.

Tsar of Earth on October 2, 2013 at 1:57 PM

Finally, somebody with some acute situational awareness. Bringing a fist to a fist fight. And I mean knock the hell of him. Make him have to leave the room and negotiate with their #2.

onomo on October 2, 2013 at 2:03 PM

I think this is strictly a PR move so that the LSM can report on how Obama is going out of his way “trying to negotiate” with those stubborn Republicans.
Nothing more.
Obama is not going to give them anything of substance.

Sterling Holobyte on October 2, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Yepper sterling nothing else

cmsinaz on October 2, 2013 at 2:06 PM

If any of you live in Sean Duffy’s district you might give him a call and let him know how much you appreciate his efforts standing with CRUZ AND LEE.

PappyD61 on October 2, 2013 at 2:00 PM

Are you being sarcastic? Please indicate it on your post before someone genuinely calls to thank him.

TheRightMan on October 2, 2013 at 2:09 PM

He invited the GOP to ‘negotiate’ the CR…as long as they understand the only bill he will sign is one he does not have to compromise on, one he gives up nothing and only get s what he wants.

What an @$$h0!e.

It’s like a terrorist saying I will negotiate with the police as long as they give me everything I want!

Obama and Reid are grinding their boot on the Democratic Process in hopes of destrying it once and for all, replacing it with a system where they deliver ultimatums and Edicts and the oppostion simply concede to very demand. This is all part of the ‘fundamentally changing of the United States’ Obama promised in 2007 / 2008.

easyt65 on October 2, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Pics of the Day: Then & Now

Your heads will explode.

Hypocrisy at its absolute finest.

Resist We Much on October 2, 2013 at 2:10 PM

What, did someone threaten to call Putin in to moderate?

ajacksonian on October 2, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Alternate headline: GOP soon to cave.

WhatSlushfund on October 2, 2013 at 2:25 PM

PappyD61 on October 2, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Well, at least this is separating the chaff from the wheat. Now we have a clean list of who to berate at the townhalls and primary in the elections!

dominigan on October 2, 2013 at 2:29 PM

the dKos crowd is coming to some new realizations. Very interesting over. Closing the WWII memorial is causing a lot of heartburn is one tell.

DanMan on October 2, 2013 at 2:32 PM

The American citizenry have turned into wimps…pull down some barrycade’s and participate in civil disobedience…geeesh…

PatriotRider on October 2, 2013 at 2:32 PM

Republicans went to the table, over and over and over again. It was passed over their heads with nary a how-do-you-do.

Obama called a “summit” back then, too. He took the majority of speaking time for himself – not his side, himSELF – and then had the House “deem” the Senate bill “passed” anyway, with zero changes.

Meanwhile, basically none of the things he promised are coming to pass, while everything Ryan et al warned him about are happening in front of our eyes.

The Schaef on October 2, 2013 at 12:28 PM

I believe that was the summit where the REB gave Congressman Paul Ryan the finger for being presumptuous by asking a question.

slickwillie2001 on October 2, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Pics of the Day: Then & Now

Your heads will explode.

Hypocrisy at its absolute finest.

Resist We Much on October 2, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Obama’s own OMB estimates that the FY-end 2013 gross federal debt is now $17.25 Trillion
($17,249,239,000,000 … see:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2014/assets/hist07z1.xls).

ITguy on October 2, 2013 at 2:35 PM

It IS a trap. They shouldn’t go, or as soon as it’s apparent they are getting jobbed they should walk out.

And, they should send Cruz in. That’ll piss them off.

Darksean on October 2, 2013 at 2:36 PM

Mr. Blink, the thug of the senate.

Schadenfreude on October 2, 2013 at 2:39 PM

I’ve never read a more delusional post in my life, except for the one Ace posted over at his site.

Mr. Arkadin on October 2, 2013 at 1:52 PM

The huge failure of the Obamacare rollout, followed by the optics of Obama’s goons harassing elderly WW2 vets today, must really stick in your craw.

Doomberg on October 2, 2013 at 2:41 PM

There is no reason for the GOP to wait until the 11th hour to negotiate the debt limit increase. We’re already about half a TRILLION above the statutory debt limit, thanks to 5 and a half months of “extraordinary measures” borrowing that has to be repaid and is reported by the Treasury Department as being close to running out…

Treasury Secretary Lew: Department has begun to use ‘final extraordinary measures’ to pay country’s bills

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/debt-ceiling-treasury-final-extraordinary-measures-97690.html

The Treasury Department has begun using the last set of accounting maneuvers at its disposal to allow the government to keep paying its bills until Congress raises the country’s borrowing limit, Treasury Secretary Jack Lew told congressional leaders Tuesday night.

In a letter, Lew reiterated that if the debt ceiling is not raised by Oct. 17 the government will not be able to meet all its financial commitments, such as making payments to U.S. debt holders, government contractors and Social Security recipients.

To buy more time before the debt limit needs to be raised, Lew said the final “extraordinary measures” being deployed include suspending the daily reinvestment of the portion of the Exchange Stabilization Fund that is invested in Treasury securities and that Treasury is entering into a debt swap with the Federal Financing Bank and the Civil Service Retirement and Disability Fund.

They’ve since changed the headline at Politico, but the URL shows what the original headline was.

We’ve been over the debt limit since mid-May.

It is long past time to hold Obama to his 2008 promises to:

go line by line through every item in the federal budget and eliminate programs that don’t work, and make sure that those that do work, work better and cheaper…”

And oh, by the way, Obamacare is a government program that doesn’t work.

ITguy on October 2, 2013 at 2:43 PM

It IS a trap. They shouldn’t go, or as soon as it’s apparent they are getting jobbed they should walk out.

And, they should send Cruz in. That’ll piss them off.

Darksean on October 2, 2013 at 2:36 PM

Instead of Mitch McConnell and John Boehner, send in Ted Cruz and Louie Gohmert.

ITguy on October 2, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Obama and Reid are only concerned that they appear like they don’t want to work anything out….so they meet…and afterwards they’ll slam republicans for hurting America. It’s the same reason Obama called Boehner in the beginning…to make it look like the lines of communication are open and he’s the “adult” in the room.

FreeManOtis on October 2, 2013 at 2:48 PM

the dKos crowd is coming to some new realizations. Very interesting over. Closing the WWII memorial is causing a lot of heartburn is one tell.

DanMan on October 2, 2013 at 2:32 PM

Why is there more security at the World War II Memorial in Washington when the government is ‘shut down’ than there was in Benghazi when the government was ‘open’?

Is threatening and harassing WWII vets at an open-air plaza that is usually open 24/7/365 with a staff of 7 working in shifts only part of that time more important than the lives of Americans posted at a ‘consulate’ in a NOTORIOUS hotbed of Islamic terrorism where numerous incidents, including an attack on the ‘consulate’ and the attempted assassination of the British ambassador?

Maybe one of the DailyKooks can give us the answers.

Resist We Much on October 2, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Pics of the Day: Then & Now

Your heads will explode.

Hypocrisy at its absolute finest.

Resist We Much on October 2, 2013 at 2:10 PM

I can’t.

My head’s already exploded, and I simply see no other way to fix things at this point without violence.

Midas on October 2, 2013 at 2:56 PM

Midas on October 2, 2013 at 2:56 PM

But, you’ll want the ammo for the future.

Resist We Much on October 2, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Instead of Mitch McConnell and John Boehner, send in Ted Cruz and Louie Gohmert.

ITguy on October 2, 2013 at 2:46 PM

And it must not be a closed door meeting – must have cameras/press in attendance, for the record.

Midas on October 2, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Obama’s own OMB estimates that the FY-end 2013 gross federal debt is now $17.25 Trillion
($17,249,239,000,000 … see:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2014/assets/hist07z1.xls).

ITguy on October 2, 2013 at 2:35 PM

I used the Treasury numbers…see:

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current

Resist We Much on October 2, 2013 at 2:58 PM

OT, but this is worth a post:

At his presser today Harry Reid was asked by CNN’s Dana Bash why the Senate wouldn’t fund the NIH, which has stopped treating about 2000 kids with cancer because of the shutdown. A House bill would re-open the NIH, but Reid and the Democrats in both Houses are opposed.

BASH: But if you can help one child who has cancer, why wouldn’t you do it?

REID: Why would we want to do that? I have 1,100 people at Nellis Air Force base that are sitting home. They have a few problems of their own. This is — to have someone of your intelligence to suggest such a thing maybe means you’re irresponsible and reckless –

BASH: I’m just asking a question.

Yeah, he said that. Press should follow up after his WH meeting.

de rigueur on October 2, 2013 at 2:58 PM

Can Boehner and McConnell take Cruz along; just to very politely, in the most gentle sense tell Obama to F-off?

Tater Salad on October 2, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Instead of Mitch McConnell and John Boehner, send in Ted Cruz and Louie Gohmert.

ITguy on October 2, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Yeppers. The first thing I thought was “well we’re screwed” when I saw who was representing the GOP.

Again to use a cultural reference, these GOPers remind me of the movie Braveheart where Mornay and Lochlan want their warriors to stay behind them long enough, so they can negotiate more wealth and titles. They didn’t really want to win, they just wanted troops to stick around long enough to get them more stuff..

melle1228 on October 2, 2013 at 3:03 PM

Photo op!

Zcat on October 2, 2013 at 3:03 PM

Any betting lines on how long this will last and when the Obama presser of blasting hard-headed Republicans for not capitulating will be held?
I think it’s Obama’s way of showing that he’s willing to work it out with nothing at risk. (He’s learning from the best – Iran.)

djaymick on October 2, 2013 at 3:09 PM

I notice that on Fox it is always the ladies who wring their hands and say the Republicans can’t win this.

Cindy Munford on October 2, 2013 at 3:12 PM

Leaked emails that indicated House Speaker John Boehner coordinated with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to exempt Congress from Obamacare.
“This is John Boehner. This is your speaker of the House … this is exactly what we’ve been saying they are doing,” Beck said with disgust on radio. “They are making special deals behind closed doors. They are one part and parcel with the Democratic Party. They are in bed with them and they are lying to you.”
http://www.theblaze.com/storie

Zcat on October 2, 2013 at 3:12 PM

Djaymick….I give it 15 minutes max

cmsinaz on October 2, 2013 at 3:13 PM

OT, but this is worth a post:

At his presser today Harry Reid was asked by CNN’s Dana Bash why the Senate wouldn’t fund the NIH, which has stopped treating about 2000 kids with cancer because of the shutdown. A House bill would re-open the NIH, but Reid and the Democrats in both Houses are opposed.

BASH: But if you can help one child who has cancer, why wouldn’t you do it?

REID: Why would we want to do that? I have 1,100 people at Nellis Air Force base that are sitting home. They have a few problems of their own. This is — to have someone of your intelligence to suggest such a thing maybe means you’re irresponsible and reckless –

BASH: I’m just asking a question.
Yeah, he said that. Press should follow up after his WH meeting.

de rigueur on October 2, 2013 at 2:58 PM

As a couple noted yesterday. Just wait until Govt controls 1/6 of the economy.

Who would dare risk a shutdown then when doing so will cause Obamneycare to shutdown. Scheduled for surgery tomorrow? Too bad. The hosiptial is closed for business and the Govt employees (Nurses, doctors, janitors) sent home. Just another reason why the govt must NEVER control anything beyond its constitutionally defined responsibilities, otherwise the politicians WILL hold them hostage in return for more $$ and power.

The national divorce can’t come soon enough if people don’t wake up.

AH_C on October 2, 2013 at 3:22 PM

I used the Treasury numbers…see:

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current

Resist We Much on October 2, 2013 at 2:58 PM

The treasury numbers aren’t an accurate reflection of our true debt, because they don’t include the roughly $550 Billion in borrowing that has been under “extraordinary measures”.

Use your link and look at the Total Public Debt Outstanding reported on the following days:
4/30/2013 – $16,828,845,497,183.90
9/30/2013 – $16,738,183,526,697.32

Do you really believe that the Total Public Debt Outstanding went DOWN over the last 5 months?

Again, the treasury numbers aren’t an accurate reflection of our true debt, because they don’t include the roughly $550 Billion in borrowing that has been under “extraordinary measures” since mid-May.

That borrowing won’t appear in the Treasury numbers until the debt ceiling is raised and more Treasury securities are used to repay the “extraordinary measures”. You’ll see the debt numbers reported by the Treasury will jump by over half a Trillion dollars in a very short period of time.

Our true debt on 9/30/2013 (Fiscal Year-end 2013) is much closer to the White House OMB’s estimate of $17,249,239,000,000 ($17.25 Trillion)

ITguy on October 2, 2013 at 3:28 PM

I would tell the Fraud “that he could have his people send an outline of their proposals to my people and we will take a look. If we see good faith proposals, we’ll get back with you! As an anarchist, racist, blackmailer,extortionist,hostage taker, I am very careful who I will meet with! I will not be made a fool of again in front of your fawning media!! We will meet only in conference rooms at the capitol in private!!”
Sincerely
Boner
Possum Mitch

Marco on October 2, 2013 at 3:29 PM

On the upside, the 5:30 start will give Michelle time to treat the POTUS’ diaper rash.

socalcon on October 2, 2013 at 3:30 PM

these GOPers remind me of the movie Braveheart where Mornay and Lochlan want their warriors to stay behind them long enough, so they can negotiate more wealth and titles. They didn’t really want to win, they just wanted troops to stick around long enough to get them more stuff..

melle1228 on October 2, 2013 at 3:03 PM

Good analogy, especially in light of Boehner’s negotiations with Reid to secure their Obamacare subsidies.

ITguy on October 2, 2013 at 3:34 PM

If the GOP caves on this, they might as well give the lazy stupid coward a blank check when it comes to the debt ceiling debate. It really is that simple.

Happy Nomad on October 2, 2013 at 3:35 PM

On the upside, the 5:30 start will give Michelle time to treat the POTUS’ diaper rash.

socalcon on October 2, 2013 at 3:30 PM

You do realize that she’s behind this meeting, right? The shutdown cost her a vacation to Asia and don’t think she isn’t pissed off about that!

Happy Nomad on October 2, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Didn’t dear leader also say that if the leaders come to the WH he’s still not going to negotiate? Bonehead should kick some sand on O’s red line this afternoon.

Kissmygrits on October 2, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Before this little Meet & Greet I would like to remind the R’s of this,

Hold, Hold, Hold

D-fusit on October 2, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Hey general, you’re worried about capability because of funding? Talk to the Commander in Chief.

arand on October 2, 2013 at 4:03 PM

I notice that on Fox it is always the ladies who wring their hands and say the Republicans can’t win this.

Cindy Munford on October 2, 2013 at 3:12 PM

and men all named nancy

gracie on October 2, 2013 at 4:11 PM

I’m feeling too lazy today to sift through all the comments, so, at the risk of repetition, I’ll just go with the obvious ‘Saruman in Orthanc after the Battle of Isengard’ comparison.

Knott Buyinit on October 2, 2013 at 4:12 PM

On the upside, the 5:30 start will give Michelle time to treat the POTUS’ diaper rash.

socalcon on October 2, 2013 at 3:30 PM

But we won’t get a tweet about it…. :(

Athos on October 2, 2013 at 4:12 PM

https://twitter.com/robertcostaNRO

Robert Costa ‏@robertcostaNRO 25m

Devin Nunes R-CA tells me leadership has committed to the “Cruz strategy” on CR, doesn’t think they’ll change tune

INC on October 2, 2013 at 4:12 PM

https://twitter.com/robertcostaNRO

More from Costa earlier today—I’ve copied only the text and flipped the order:

And Cruz, the Sen who started talking defund O’care in DSM in Aug, his pals say even he is surprised by how far this has all gone…

I was in the room when Cruz spoke to pastors in Des Moines. Talked about the need to fight to end, push to defund…

Looking back, it’s clear this impasse is far bigger than Cruz. Not about him. But…

Cruz-Lee defund effort, pushed by grassroots, ended up being the gust of wind that collapsed the fragile Hill status quo of 2013

On the meeting:

R mindmeld, just so you know: Obama is hold mtg to act like he’s trying to solve shutdown, bringing people together

But Rs don’t buy it, think he’s actually priv urging Reid to hold strong and break Rs, and help him win blame game as shutdown continues

INC on October 2, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Before this little Meet & Greet I would like to remind the R’s of this,

Hold, Hold, Hold

D-fusit on October 2, 2013 at 3:51 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnxlhajOolw

WhatSlushfund on October 2, 2013 at 4:26 PM

But Rs don’t buy it, think he’s actually priv urging Reid to hold strong and break Rs, and help him win blame game as shutdown continues

INC on October 2, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Exactly. Boehner, McConnell, Reid, Pelosi and Obama are all part of the same mind. They meet to try to figure out how to betray the American people. They are back stabbers of the first order.

bluefox on October 2, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Folks, one would think by now it would have sunk in that Obama and his merry little band of communists are the most cynical, traitorous, ruthless, treacherous, dishonest, evil, racist, conniving, mean spirited, bunch ever to run the federal government! They are out to destroy this country and they take no prisoners! Wake up Republicans! This is not just other boy scouts in the troop! This isn’t a Sunday school class! We don’t need Marquess of Queensberry Rules! Grow a spine! Deal with them in like kind! Friedrich Nietzsche comes to mind!!

Marco on October 2, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Why are we even trusting Bohner? when is Hot Gas going to discuss Bohner COS emails with Reid’s COS where Bohner wants to betray us all?

AH_C on October 2, 2013 at 1:46 PM

Oh, I read that article and then read most of the active links and came to the conclusion that the corruption is so much deeper than we even can imagine.

Krone, Reid Chief of Staff said: I took the action I did because I refuse to stand by and watch those who pressed for this ruling turn around and attack the very thing they asked for, simply because they don’t have the courage to stand up to a few whiners in their caucus. Integrity means owning in public what you advocate for in private,” Krone said.

Whatever his motives were, I’m glad it came out.

bluefox on October 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM

F*ck Obama. He was the one who said he “wouldn’t negotiate” with Congress.

Boehner, Et Al. should refuse to even go.

F*ck him. Let him own something for ONCE.

a5minmajor on October 2, 2013 at 6:14 PM

What happened at the meeting? Anything?

dogsoldier on October 2, 2013 at 6:38 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-invites-congressional-leaders-to-white-house-to-discuss-shutdown-155033902.html

“The president will urge the House to pass the clean [continuing resolution] to reopen the government, and call on Congress to act to raise the debt ceiling to pay the bills we have already incurred and avoid devastating consequences on our economy,” a White House official said in a statement.

Ok so the GOP should not go. He’s not negotiating, he commanding.

Boehner, tell Obama, “Nuts.”

It’s a WWII thing. I’m sure he won’t get it.

dogsoldier on October 2, 2013 at 6:42 PM

To me, watching Nancy and Harry spin furiously at an impromptu presser after the WH meeting, tells me which side is feeling the pressure over the shutdown and the looming debt ceiling deadline.

In a negotiation there are times when silence is king – and he who speaks first – is the one losing. Nancy and Harry were the one’s stopping to speak with the Ministry of Truth representatives.

(They announced 54 million pairs of shoes were made last quarter….)

Athos on October 2, 2013 at 7:15 PM

Wow, Obama really groveled at that meeting today. Practically begged Boehner for a deal. He was really upset about the “bad optics” in the media over the Obamacare rollout and the WWII Memorial fiasco, and was willing to take anything he could get.

Mr. Arkadin on October 2, 2013 at 7:52 PM

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