Paul: Let’s get a 1-week CR to give us time to negotiate in conference

posted at 10:41 am on October 1, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

“When we disagree,” Sen. Rand Paul told CNN’s New Day, “historically we’ve gone to conference committee.” Republicans in the House tried that, and Kate Bouldan tells Paul that Dick Durbin declared that Democrats are open to a conference committee — despite rejecting the offer this morning on a straight party-line vote. Paul suggests that the rhetoric needs to cool on both sides, and that both sides need to provide some give — and that can start with a one- to two-week CR and a conference committee:

“I think what we could do is pass a very short term, maybe not six weeks, but what about one week, so we could negotiate over a week,” the Kentucky Republican told CNN’s “New Day.” “I think a continuing bill to keep the government open while we negotiate is a good idea. I do agree that negotiating with the government closed probably to [Democrats] appears like strong-arm tactics.”

But it does need to be short-term enough “that we are having an active negotiation that we don’t just say we’re going to fund it for three months or two months and come back,” he said.

“I think if we did it for a week or two, we could still continue to negotiate, have a conference committee and really I think the American people do want us to work this out,” Paul said.

“New Day” co-host Kate Bolduan told Paul that his comment “might be the first glimmer of hope I’ve heard all morning.”

In the earlier interview, Durbin told CNN that Democrats might be willing to dump the medical-device tax in a deal, as long as the GOP allowed the revenue to be replaced — by raising taxes elsewhere, presumably:

A repeal of the medical device tax may be a point of compromise between the House and the Senate as the two houses of Congress work to end the government shutdown, the number two Democrat in the Senate said Tuesday.

“We can work on something, I believe, on the medical device tax. That was one of the proposals from Republicans, as long as we replace the revenue,” Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois said on CNN’s “New Day.”

That’s probably a non-starter in terms of the actual eventual compromise, but it’s a shift in tone from last night’s “pass a clean CR or else” response from Harry Reid. Republicans could offer more spending cuts that could shift revenue, but that’s probably not going to fly if it’s used to fund ObamaCare through statutory spending rather than discretionary spending, and even more to the point, the GOP isn’t going to agree to anything that boosts ObamaCare, not even a revenue-neutral swap. I’d expect the eventual compromise to come on the elimination of the Congressional exemption, which is even more poisonous for Democrats than the medical-device tax, especially with its tie to Barack Obama via executive fiat.


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Oh brother. Verbie is back!! LOL RWM must not be on this thread, so he feels safe:-)

bluefox on October 1, 2013 at 1:18 PM

I’m amazed he’s back. I was under the impression that all government funded programs were closed…

Don L on October 1, 2013 at 1:26 PM

From the Shutdown thread:

Best related comment yet on Twitter:

@ChuckNellis 15h

With all of those people missing from the White House, Obama will have to kiss his own ass…. #governmentshutdown

I had to RT and reply, even though not nearly as good as Chuck’s shot:

@novaculus 32m

@ChuckNellis @JammieWF He won’t have to move his head very far for that. I bet he’ll have to fetch Michelle’s & Valerie’s lattés too.

novaculus on October 1, 2013 at 12:01PM

bluefox on October 1, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Acknowledging reality isn’t a concession.

I want Reid to get the best deal he can, and I accept compromise if necessary. Why he should cave on a bunch of battles we fought hard for an won I have no idea, but if modest concessions are necessary to get back on track, I’m confident that Reid will make them and we will swallow them.

Besides, who does he negotiate with? Boehner? Cruz? Paul? You can’t negotiate with a mob.

Obamacare is a done deal. It has been, for four years and two elections. If you want a compromise, look for something that doesn’t attempt to gut Obamacare. Cut a spending program or something and expect to get a couple of corporate loopholes closed in return.

urban elitist on October 1, 2013 at 1:23 PM

So you’re backtracking. You said Reid was willing to compromise and now you’re saying he should drive as hard a bargain as he can pushing the government to “shut down” until he gets it.

ObamaCare is a done deal? Not really. HHS gets to keep adding and changing regulations on a daily basis. Obama unlawfully ignored and “changed” 17 provisions including exempting large corporations and Congress. For a done deal and It’s The Law it certainly seems to be a Living Breathing Document.

It’s laughable that you bring up corporate loopholes like they weren’t put in their by Democrats or created out of thin air by Obama. Republicans had nothing to do with writing or passing ObamaCare so it’s all on the Democrats.

gwelf on October 1, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Where was Rand Paul when this vote was taken in the Senate this morning?

Senate Democrats on Tuesday voted to refuse to enter into official negotiations with the House on a spending bill, saying there can be no talks until the GOP agrees to end the shutdown that began Tuesday morning.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/1/senate-kills-latest-shutdown-offer-effects-begin-b/#ixzz2gUeOSrB8
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

bluefox on October 1, 2013 at 1:43 PM

These trolls or defenders of Reid need to R-E-A-D!!!

bluefox on October 1, 2013 at 1:44 PM

gwelf on October 1, 2013 at 1:43 PM

From all we have seen changed, it’s an open ended piece of, well legislation. Edit at the will of the HHS Secretary.

bluefox on October 1, 2013 at 1:47 PM

WOW, Rush just had a caller that said a friend of his was reduced to Part Time hours and her Auto Insurance went up $500.00.

He said it was because she lost her health care insurance is why this happened. He said you get a better rate if you have health care insurance.

WTH??

Rush said he’d find more info on this.

I do know that if one doesn’t have a certain Credit Rating that has an effect on your Premium rate.

bluefox on October 1, 2013 at 1:54 PM

So you’re backtracking. You said Reid was willing to compromise and now you’re saying he should drive as hard a bargain as he can pushing the government to “shut down” until he gets it.

ObamaCare is a done deal? Not really. HHS gets to keep adding and changing regulations on a daily basis. Obama unlawfully ignored and “changed” 17 provisions including exempting large corporations and Congress. For a done deal and It’s The Law it certainly seems to be a Living Breathing Document.

It’s laughable that you bring up corporate loopholes like they weren’t put in their by Democrats or created out of thin air by Obama. Republicans had nothing to do with writing or passing ObamaCare so it’s all on the Democrats.

gwelf on October 1, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Have you ever negotiated? A willingness to compromise doesn’t mean that you do so before cutting the best deal that you can. Reid is wisely watching the Republicans crumble — or at least backtrack. When he has to, he’ll offer something up, and not before. And until then, he’ll whack the Republicans with the “shutdown” stick as often as he can. You would happily do the same to us, but your team doesn’t really have its act together this time.

Obamacare is indeed a done deal, though the details will be futzed with forever. Or, you may get the votes on Congress to repeal. Until then, though, you simply look churlish by shutting down the government to re-fight, yet again, a battle you’ve lost many times.

As for loopholes, I think that it was the Republicans that went into a frenzy to protect Exxon’s drilling subsidies.

But, just curious, what would you be willing to give up that would be a concession to the Democrats?

urban elitist on October 1, 2013 at 1:54 PM

WOW, Rush just had a caller that said a friend of his was reduced to Part Time hours and her Auto Insurance went up $500.00.

He said it was because she lost her health care insurance is why this happened. He said you get a better rate if you have health care insurance.

WTH??

Rush said he’d find more info on this.

I do know that if one doesn’t have a certain Credit Rating that has an effect on your Premium rate.

bluefox on October 1, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Since the insured no longer has health insurance the auto company has to pay medical bills if the insured needs medical car after an accident. I’m shocked that Rush wouldn’t know this.

alanstern on October 1, 2013 at 1:59 PM

Say, what do we say we tax medical devices to suppress creative ideas, Drive away intelligent minds from the field & pass the medical costs to the consumer.

RdLake on October 1, 2013 at 2:01 PM

And until then, he’ll whack the Republicans with the “shutdown” stick as often as he can. You would happily do the same to us, but your team doesn’t really have its act together this time. urban elitist on October 1, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Well, there is one thing about it. Obamacare isn’t funded either, LOL

Don’t start it’s funded either, because unless a deposit is made into the Obamacare account, it has a -0- balance. Otherwise why all the whining Reid is making about people not getting paid or losing their jobs due to the shutdown?

No $ in an account is no $ out.

bluefox on October 1, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Have you ever negotiated? A willingness to compromise doesn’t mean that you do so before cutting the best deal that you can. Reid is wisely watching the Republicans crumble — or at least backtrack. When he has to, he’ll offer something up, and not before. And until then, he’ll whack the Republicans with the “shutdown” stick as often as he can. You would happily do the same to us, but your team doesn’t really have its act together this time.

Obamacare is indeed a done deal, though the details will be futzed with forever. Or, you may get the votes on Congress to repeal. Until then, though, you simply look churlish by shutting down the government to re-fight, yet again, a battle you’ve lost many times.

As for loopholes, I think that it was the Republicans that went into a frenzy to protect Exxon’s drilling subsidies.

But, just curious, what would you be willing to give up that would be a concession to the Democrats?

urban elitist on October 1, 2013 at 1:54 PM

So now you’re conceding that a government “shutdown” is not really all that much to be worried about because if it caused actual harm the Democrats wouldn’t let it happen just to get a more advantageous bargaining position and to score political points right?

You THINK it was Republicans that protected Exxon’s drilling subsidies – in the ACA? What are you talking about? The ACA covers drilling subsidies?

Again, Republicans didn’t write any the bill. The bill was created in back room deals lead by Harry Reid (D) and Nancy Pelosi (D).

And it was OBAMA that exempted large corporations and Conrgress from the ACA after the bill was passed. Not a dastardly Republican in sight.

gwelf on October 1, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Reid and Ovomit, as well as Pelosi, have already stated that they refuse to negotiate. What would the point of this be, Rand?

JannyMae on October 1, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Reid and Ovomit, as well as Pelosi, have already stated that they refuse to negotiate. What would the point of this be, Rand?

JannyMae on October 1, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Well for one thing it shows that the Democrats don’t really think the “shutdown” is harmful but view it as a useful political tool. Rand is offering to keep negotiating but to be able to do so without shutting down the government which the Democrats claim is a disaster for the poor, women, children yada yada yada. If they don’t take his offer then they are revealed as liars and frauds.

gwelf on October 1, 2013 at 2:15 PM

urban elitist on October 1, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Democrats are hard bargainers. Unless you’re a foreign dictator that oppresses and murders it’s citizens. Then they’re push overs.

Democrats say the Republicans hate women and homosexuals and are terrorists but when it comes to dictators that actually are all those things he rolls over. Pathetic.

gwelf on October 1, 2013 at 2:30 PM

So now you’re conceding that a government “shutdown” is not really all that much to be worried about because if it caused actual harm the Democrats wouldn’t let it happen just to get a more advantageous bargaining position and to score political points right?

You THINK it was Republicans that protected Exxon’s drilling subsidies – in the ACA? What are you talking about? The ACA covers drilling subsidies?

Again, Republicans didn’t write any the bill. The bill was created in back room deals lead by Harry Reid (D) and Nancy Pelosi (D).

And it was OBAMA that exempted large corporations and Conrgress from the ACA after the bill was passed. Not a dastardly Republican in sight.

gwelf on October 1, 2013 at 2:08 PM

No, I’m pointing out that Republicans are willing to risk significant damage to the economy to have their little temper tantrum, and that Harry Reid remind the American people exactly what a bit of extortion this is.

The bill was passed. The Supreme Court upheld it. Voters have twice refused to elect a majority for repeal and Romney got his butt kicked. You’ve lost at every turn and so you’ve become the three-year-old pitching fit because he can’t have his candy. I’m that, as soon as the hysterics stop, mommy will give you some candy.

Oh, and get back to us when you get someone who can actually negotiate. Given that Boehner can’t deliver his caucus and everybody hates Cruz, who should Reid even talk to?

True Believer Rand Paul’s backpedaling is a real signal that the Republicans are in utter disarray.

urban elitist on October 1, 2013 at 2:53 PM

No, I’m pointing out that Republicans are willing to risk significant damage to the economy to have their little temper tantrum, and that Harry Reid remind the American people exactly what a bit of extortion this is.

The bill was passed. The Supreme Court upheld it. Voters have twice refused to elect a majority for repeal and Romney got his butt kicked. You’ve lost at every turn and so you’ve become the three-year-old pitching fit because he can’t have his candy. I’m that, as soon as the hysterics stop, mommy will give you some candy.

Oh, and get back to us when you get someone who can actually negotiate. Given that Boehner can’t deliver his caucus and everybody hates Cruz, who should Reid even talk to?

True Believer Rand Paul’s backpedaling is a real signal that the Republicans are in utter disarray.

urban elitist on October 1, 2013 at 2:53 PM

So it’s going to damage the economy but it’s not enough reason for Reid to find common ground?

Ok, so the GOP is the only side showing a willingness to concede anything so it may be several more days before something is hashed out but it’s the Democrats insisting on a shutdown, which you claim is going to damage the economy. The Democrats are the ones holding out for the best deal while the economy is hurt.

It is good to see that you’ve finally conceded the argument that the Democrats won’t budge on the special corporate and Congressional deals they’ve got going.

gwelf on October 1, 2013 at 3:07 PM

As someone who as of last night has no charge number to charge to, Rand Paul can shove his 1 -2 week CR. Get a proper budget, screw this CR crap… Now is the time…

Pisio808 on October 1, 2013 at 3:08 PM

True Believer Rand Paul’s backpedaling is a real signal that the Republicans are in utter disarray.

urban elitist on October 1, 2013 at 2:53 PM

So if Democrats really believe the “shutdown” is harmful and they don’t want to harm America then they’ll take Rand Paul up on his idea right?

gwelf on October 1, 2013 at 3:14 PM

Not just no-but HELL NO!

annoyinglittletwerp on October 1, 2013 at 3:37 PM

So it’s going to damage the economy but it’s not enough reason for Reid to find common ground?

Ok, so the GOP is the only side showing a willingness to concede anything so it may be several more days before something is hashed out but it’s the Democrats insisting on a shutdown, which you claim is going to damage the economy. The Democrats are the ones holding out for the best deal while the economy is hurt.

It is good to see that you’ve finally conceded the argument that the Democrats won’t budge on the special corporate and Congressional deals they’ve got going.

gwelf on October 1, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Let’s get past the idea that the Republicans have conceded anything.

Saying that you’re not going to demand repeal of a bill that you don’t have the votes to repeal in the first place isn’t much of a concession.

urban elitist on October 1, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Reid and Ovomit, as well as Pelosi, have already stated that they refuse to negotiate. What would the point of this be, Rand?

JannyMae on October 1, 2013 at 2:13 PM

As I said up thread, where was Paul when the vote was taken this morning.

CSPAN
@cspan

Seen on C-SPAN2: Senate tables (kill) motion to go to conference with the House, 54-46. #cspanCHAT pic.twitter.com/fBMKsDAX5C

6 hours ago

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bluefox on October 1, 2013 at 4:16 PM

Rand Paul is wrong. We don’t need a cooling period (plus, a 1-week CR would make us look weak, not reach-across-the-aisle-nice). We need to seize the opportunity that we’ve been given.

The Prodigals, aka Democrats, refused to delay Obamacare for one year. They they timed the individual mandate go into effect before the 2014 elections so as to destroy the economy. Once the economy tanks, the GOP conservative grassroots won’t have the disposable income to fund political campaigns.

What the House Republicans ought to do is now up the ante. They need to tell the Prodigals that since they wouldn’t delay Obamacare, now the only way to get the govt up and running is to repeal Obamacare. If Obama wants to sit out the rest of his term with the govt shut down, then so be it.

TXJenny on October 1, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Rand Paul is starting to remind me of Mitch McConnell. Lame.

FloatingRock on October 1, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Sorry Rand. Just send all the GOP home for 30 days and say you won’t come back until they agree to serious negotiations. Oh and the ante goes up each week. If nothing by November 1st the new negotiation position is outright repeal while we still have insurance companies around. Plus tort reform, shopping across borders and elimination of any mandates on what’s in the policy. The clock starts ticking now. Then go home. Oboobi can’t even make recess appointments if the govt is shutdown. This is what a republic looks like when the House exercises its power of the purse.

AH_C on October 1, 2013 at 6:24 PM

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