Mike Lee on funding the government: “Let’s leave ObamaCare for another day”

posted at 6:01 pm on October 1, 2013 by Allahpundit

Everyone understand what he’s trying to do here? I’m embarrassed to say that I didn’t initially. The link to his floor speech this afternoon started circulating a little while ago on Twitter, with lefties and righties alike marveling over the line about leaving ObamaCare for another day. Does that mean Mike Lee, co-leader of the “defund” caucus, is caving?

This is an effort to compromise, an effort that is badly needed, an effort that comes in the wake of other efforts to compromise that have for the most part failed. The House of Representatives has tried now three different times to avoid a shutdown, passing three different measures to make sure that our government would continue to be funded.

Senator Reid and those members of his conference, those who support him have rejected all three plans, rejected all three offers to keep the government funding, accusing republicans of playing games with Obamacare. So in light of that, let’s leave Obamacare for another day and not hold the vast majority of government functions hostage when the vast majority of government functions don’t have anything to do with the implementation and enforcement of Obamacare.

We did it yesterday. We did it and it worked well. It was seamless. It was done with absolute unanimous consent. We did it with respect to active duty military pay yesterday. We can do it for veterans benefits, for border security, for national parks and many, many other government agencies. We can keep government open. We can keep those aspects of our federal government funded. We can do so. We should do so. Together we will do so.

No, of course he’s not caving. He’s simply approaching the defunding question from the new baseline of a shutdown, as part of the House GOP’s strategy to start passing small funding bills targeted at particular agencies and programs (e.g., Defense, State, DHS, etc). Technically, he doesn’t need Democrats and Obama to agree to defund ObamaCare anymore. Thanks to the shutdown, it’s already been defunded. (Er, sort of.) He’s done it! All he needs to do now is fund everything else except ObamaCare via piecemeal bills and he’ll have arrived at the same result that he and Ted Cruz were aiming for at the start. That’s all he means in saying O-Care should be left for another day.

If Democrats were as dumb as me, that might be lost on them. Alas:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid came to the floor a little before 4:30 p.m. to knock down the latest House Republican plan to fund parts of the government. It’s “just another whacky idea” from tea party Republicans, Reid said. “We support the federal government,” he said. “That’s our job. That’s what we do.”

Calling tea party Republicans “rabble-rousers,” the Nevada Democrat said that “we won’t be forced to choose” between what parts of the government to bring back from shutdown. It’s “not a serious plan,” Reid said.

Reid suggested that the latest House gambit is just another way of trying to get rid of Obamacare. It’s just Republicans trying to “nitpick these little things” until the Affordable Care Act is dead. “It won’t work.”

Lee knew, of course, that they wouldn’t go for it, but this puts the shoe on the other foot by making Reid and the Democrats the obstacle to funding national parks, the D.C. zoo, and other prime targets of shutdown theater. Imagine a low-information voter, who’s coming late to this story (as always), tuning in to find alleged anarchist Mike Lee demanding money for national parks and Reid refusing adamantly. The blame game might be more complicated than Democrats expect.

Via the Corner, here’s Chris Matthews wondering whether the elephants at the zoo will get fed. Good news, Chris: Mike Lee’s here with the elephant chow.

Update: Nick Gillespie points to Lee’s new position as a touchstone for how conservatives, even of the tea-party variety, differ from libertarians. Why on earth, he asks, are fiscal conservatives falling all over each other to fund national parks and the department of education? I’ll be interested to see what Rand Paul thinks of that.


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canopfor on October 1, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Good evening friend..:)

Dire Straits on October 1, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Yet.

Bmore on October 1, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Dire Straits on October 1, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Dire, long time no see. ; ) How are things my friend?

Bmore on October 1, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Bmore on October 1, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on October 1, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Bmore on October 1, 2013 at 9:35 PM

They are good..Hope all is well for you and yours..:)

Dire Straits on October 1, 2013 at 9:37 PM

Dire Straits on October 1, 2013 at 9:37 PM

Very well. Back from the trip. Worked too hard. Played too hard. Lolz! What else is new? Lolz! ; )

Bmore on October 1, 2013 at 9:38 PM

I posted this on another thread and I’m sorry if it’s a little off topic. Many of Hot Air’s are super smart, so I’m hoping one of them can help me.

I need help finding details in the 2000 + page monstrosity.
Can anyone tell me where to find the reference that states that the IRS will be in charge of Obamacare?

Also, where the provision is that Congress and their minions must participate?

I’ve been discussing this law with a democrat friend and they don’t believe the IRS will be running the show. I read through the government website of the law, but I’m not too good at reading lawyerese and haven’t been able to find these provisions.

Ibanez Lotus on October 1, 2013 at 9:55 PM

“Save Obamacare for another day”….

I agree.

Let’s save if for the day that Satan is wearing a parka and selling snowballs on the corner of Hellfire and Brimstone.

thatsafactjack on October 1, 2013 at 9:58 PM

“Save Obamacare for another day”….

I agree.

Let’s save if for the day that Satan is wearing a parka and selling snowballs on the corner of Hellfire and Brimstone.

thatsafactjack on October 1, 2013 at 9:58 PM

Put it in your pocket like a warm gummy bear.

RovesChins on October 1, 2013 at 10:01 PM

I posted this on another thread and I’m sorry if it’s a little off topic. Many of Hot Air’s are super smart, so I’m hoping one of them can help me.

I need help finding details in the 2000 + page monstrosity.
Can anyone tell me where to find the reference that states that the IRS will be in charge of Obamacare?

Also, where the provision is that Congress and their minions must participate?

I’ve been discussing this law with a democrat friend and they don’t believe the IRS will be running the show. I read through the government website of the law, but I’m not too good at reading lawyerese and haven’t been able to find these provisions.

Ibanez Lotus on October 1, 2013 at 9:55 PM

A list of forms and publications on the IRS website relevant to the ACA:

http://search.irs.gov/search?q=affordable+care+act&output=xml_no_dtd&proxystylesheet=irs_portals_frontend&client=irs_portals_frontend&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&num=10&ud=1&exclude_apps=1&site=default_collection&numgm=5&requiredfields=-archive%3A1

slickwillie2001 on October 1, 2013 at 10:03 PM

Thanks for the info slickwillie2001!

Ibanez Lotus on October 1, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Mike Lee’s super subtle brilliant plan was so amazing it didn’t even make it out of the House. So much for the “brains” behind the defund caucus. Reid and Obama didn’t have to lift a finger.

Of course, no update here at Hot Air, although I think the info was posted in comment 547.

Oh well, no biggie.

Mr. Arkadin on October 1, 2013 at 10:22 PM

, Reid said. “We support the federal government,” he said. “That’s our job. That’s what we do.”

Pretty much sums it up.

wolly4321 on October 1, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Reid said. “We support the federal government,” he said. “That’s our job. That’s what we do.”

Yeah, that’s what you and Harvey Whittemore were doing in all of those meetings. /

So, Harry, why is your bagman going to prison?

Resist We Much on October 1, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Folks….conservatives…the most important thing we have learned from all this.

We now have leaders…the cream is rising to the top before our eyes. They are young, no doubt, but they are smart and have all the qualities to make them great politicians. We have to let them grow and even make a few mistakes, because people like Cruz, Lee, and Paul are leaders. They want the ball when the game is on the line.

So rejoice! It has been a long time since we have had real leaders. They are going to take this GOP over. They are simply too smart for the current leadership/elite or anyone else to stop them.

William Eaton on October 1, 2013 at 10:30 PM

RovesChins on October 1, 2013 at 10:01 PM

I had no idea you support the funding of Obamacare.

Like Lee… I think that we should deny funding until hell freezes over.

thatsafactjack on October 1, 2013 at 10:45 PM

RovesChins on October 1, 2013 at 10:01 PM

I had no idea you support the funding of Obamacare.

Like Lee… I think that we should deny funding until hell freezes over.

thatsafactjack on October 1, 2013 at 10:45 PM

I don’t, ding dong.
I was agreeing with you.

RovesChins on October 1, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Report: Up To 80 Airmen At Lackland Air Force Base Subjected To Threats And Punishment For Their Personal Beliefs On Gay Marriage…

Murphy9 on October 1, 2013 at 6:51 PM

From the article:

Among those at the church meeting was Senior Master Sgt. Phillip Monk. The 19-year veteran was punished after he refused to tell his lesbian commander his position on gay marriage.

Remember when the watchword of the Left was “If you don’t like same sex marriage, don’t have one.”
The standard answer to this (blatantly illegal) question should be “I don’t have a same sex marriage. Sir.”

AesopFan on October 1, 2013 at 11:19 PM

We now have leaders…the cream is rising to the top before our eyes. They are young, no doubt, but they are smart and have all the qualities to make them great politicians.

William Eaton on October 1, 2013 at 10:30 PM

In 1776, John Adams was 41 (born 1735)
Thomas Jefferson was 33 (born 1743)
George Washington was 44 (born 1732)

Mike Lee is 42 (born 1971)
Ted Cruz is 43 (born 1970)

Yep, just young enough.

AesopFan on October 1, 2013 at 11:38 PM

I’m sure I missed it elsewhere, but if govt is shut down, how was there so much O’care activity today?

Also, have you all noticed the unity of message with libs? Everyone (dems) in the house and senate are talking about the redical fringe TEA party as part of one party, in one house, of one branch of govt. It drives me nuts that they are trying to sell the TEA party as exteme. How about mainstream?

Also, I felt a small wave of joy in the knowledge that the left must be truly afraid. Otherwise, they would not be so unified in attacking the TEA party as it were a monolithic organization. Haha!

Taking lots of flak must mean they’re over the target and posing a serious threat! Fight!

freedomfirst on October 1, 2013 at 11:41 PM

I was hoping Conservatives would wring the funding for programs out of Obama one by one, and it looks like Lee is on to that, but this is also a chance for Conservatives to reassert the House of Representatives as in charge of the purse strings and to be taken seriously.

They should push further and refuse to fund the department of education as is, instead returning the tax money to the states, but that won’t happen.

Daemonocracy on October 2, 2013 at 12:19 AM

Hitler-Enabling Act-March 23, 1933

77 years later, to the day….

Obama-Affordable Care Act-March 23, 2010

just a giant coincidence….

gordo on October 2, 2013 at 12:40 AM

No, of course he’s not caving. He’s simply approaching the defunding question from the new baseline of a shutdown, as part of the House GOP’s strategy to start passing small funding bills targeted at particular agencies and programs (e.g., Defense, State, DHS, etc). Technically, he doesn’t need Democrats and Obama to agree to defund ObamaCare anymore. Thanks to the shutdown, it’s already been defunded. (Er, sort of.) He’s done it! All he needs to do now is fund everything else except ObamaCare via piecemeal bills and he’ll have arrived at the same result that he and Ted Cruz were aiming for at the start. That’s all he means in saying O-Care should be left for another day.

Allahpundit

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That makes the most sense to me, Allah. If Mike Lee were ‘giving up’, after aiding and abetting Ted Cruz with his “filibuster”, it would be a sign of a enigmatic, wishy-washy man.
Mike Lee is neither of those two things.

listens2glenn on October 2, 2013 at 2:21 AM

This is why the hard “headed” right are just plain stupid. It’s the law. The tea party is absolutely stupid. The best thing to try and run a national campaign as a republican is to run against these dolts, and call them out for what they are. Stupid.

rubberneck on October 2, 2013 at 2:25 AM

he need to push a bill that fully funds the government including aca, but makes it go into effect the 1st of January, no waivers, no delays, no exceptions, no delays, no nothing. see what the democrats do.

RonK on October 2, 2013 at 4:34 AM

rubberneck on October 2, 2013 at 2:25 AM

So was prohibition.

So was slavery.

Women were chattel and had no right to vote. Laws can be repealed. Bad laws must be.

dogsoldier on October 2, 2013 at 5:12 AM

Ibanez Lotus on October 1, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Find the PDF document of the bill and use the search tool. That’s the best method.

dogsoldier on October 2, 2013 at 5:15 AM

This is why the hard “headed” right are just plain stupid. It’s the law. The tea party is absolutely stupid. The best thing to try and run a national campaign as a republican is to run against these dolts, and call them out for what they are. Stupid.

rubberneck on October 2, 2013 at 2:25 AM

Hey.. did you know that before ObamaCare was the law.. it wasn’t the law. There were other laws then Democrats made this law to replace all those other laws. And that’s how it works. Yep. You can replace or repeal laws with other laws.. or with no law at all if you want. And everybody has a right to try to do that. In fact.. the law says that.

And did you realize that trying to stop this law is actually legal? That the Republicans are actually following the law as they try to stop this law? Did you know that? It’s called the constitution. Yeah.. the constitution. It’s the law.

JellyToast on October 2, 2013 at 6:20 AM

The flailing begins in earnest.

This is the George Custer approach to politics — toss away your fundamental advantages, divide your forces, take a fruitless stand on indefensible terrain, and get annihilated.

Chuckles3 on October 2, 2013 at 7:02 AM

This is the George Custer approach to politics — toss away your fundamental advantages, divide your forces, take a fruitless stand on indefensible terrain, and get annihilated.

Chuckles3 on October 2, 2013 at 7:02 AM

If you’re referring to the Republicans, they are most reminiscent if the 20th main who just got into position on a little rocky hill in Pennsylvania.

Look, the dems chose the ground and they did not get the reaction they counted on. First of all, the government is not completely shut down. Secondly the American people woke up and simply yawned.

The shutdown is having no impact on anyone’s life. This is SkyIsFalling 2.0. What if you throw an outrage and, and, and, like, nobody shows up, dude?

dogsoldier on October 2, 2013 at 7:48 AM

*main* Cannot believe I typed that. Should read Maine.

I Needs caffeine.

dogsoldier on October 2, 2013 at 7:49 AM

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