Life’s a glitch: ObamaCare websites plagued by bugs on launch day; Update: Feds apologize; Video: MSNBC reporter tries, fails to enroll

posted at 11:21 am on October 1, 2013 by Allahpundit

Ed touched on this earlier but it’s worth risking redundancy to give it extra attention, especially now that I’m seeing tweets like this (from a Huffington Post reporter, no less):

“The political world” can focus on whatever it chooses to, so let’s focus. The best round-up of assorted exchange websites melting down on launch day is Twitchy’s, but if you want a walkthrough on what it’s like to try to navigate the Healthcare.gov site this morning, Charlie Spiering at the Examiner is your man. He’s got an easy peasy 14-step guide that involves waiting while the server tries to redirect you to the right page, having your answers to the site’s security questions rejected for no apparent reason, receiving messages that your account can’t be created at the moment, receiving messages that you can’t create an account because you’ve already created one, and then ending up on a login page with a gibberish header before finally being instructed to “Contact your system administrator.” Curious to see if I’d experience the same thing, I was redirected to the New York State exchange website. This was waiting for me:

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They had three years to work out the kinks. Not only couldn’t they do it, apparently some of them couldn’t do something as simple as prepare their servers for the load on launch day knowing that there’d be a crush of interest after a massive federal PR campaign involving the president himself. Imagine Obama’s reaction if someone had told him in March 2010 that development of the exchanges would be so half-assed that he’d be forced to spend the day before they open — ostensibly his moment of triumph — warning reporters that glitches were assured. This is his signature domestic “achievement,” the biggest paradigm shift towards state-administered health care in decades, the success of which depends on making things as easy as possible for the uninsured to sign up. Despite all that, people are getting messages this morning that “The system is down.” Man, is it ever.

To its credit, and despite warnings from other parts of the media that journalists shouldn’t “rush to judgment” about O-Care just because the feds couldn’t pull it together with three years’ lead time, WaPo is covering glitchapalooza this morning with both a story on the topic and live updates on their launch blog. A taste:

Jon Tucci stayed up until midnight Monday, hoping to enroll on West Virginia’s new insurance marketplace at the first moment possible.

Ten hours later — after two attempts at signing up and one 45-minutes call with a consumer service agent — technical glitches have prevented the 60-year-old grandfather from purchasing a plan.

“I’m pretty fluent on the Internet,” Tucci, who is self-employed in the oil and gas industry, says. “I’ve applied for a lot of things, and there are always glitches. But this was totally disappointing. I’m just really frustrated.”

His call with customer service ended when the agent tried to put him on hold — after 45 minutes — and disconnected him instead. Meanwhile, both Minnesota and Maryland have announced that would-be applicants should check back at their state websites later this afternoon, when things will hopefully have improved from half-assed to three-quarter-assed. How bad will things get elsewhere? Stand by for updates.

Update: Another thing you might want to do for launch day of a massive new federal program: Hire extra customer service.

Update: Josh Barro’s experience with the New York site was even worse than mine:

Philip Klein, a Maryland resident, responded to the website message about not trying to log in until this afternoon by calling Maryland customer service instead. The operator told him she couldn’t hear him well due to “connectivity issues” and advised him to … call back this afternoon.

Update: Before noon on the east coast, we have an official apology:

Update: The Corner is also compiling reports via Twitter of O-Care websites being down. Just to circle back to Stein’s point above, does the shutdown help or hurt Obama’s press shop in trying to spin the rollout? A friend suggested last night that the shutdown actually helps them because low-information (i.e. dumb) voters might conclude that it’s the shutdown, not HHS’s incompetence, that’s to blame for the glitches. BuzzFeed counters, though, that the shutdown hurts the White House because they’re desperate to put out the word to the uninsured to sign up, glitches or not. The more the shutdown dominates media coverage, the harder it is for that message to get through. And of course, with fewer tech specialists at work due to the shutdown, the harder it’ll be to address the glitches early on.

Update: Good enough for government work?

Update: My mistake. Klein isn’t a Maryland resident, he just called the Maryland exchange to see how they were handling applications.


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“Glitch” is the official federal euphemism for “trainwreck.”

obladioblada on October 1, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Future apology by tweet:

“HealthCare.gov ✔ @HealthCareGov (1/2) Thanks for all your comments and updates as you attempted to qualify your grandfather for treatment. We understand that his application was not processed in time.”

“HealthCare.gov ✔ @HealthCareGov (2/2) We apologize that wait times are longer than expected! We have every confidence that the remainder of your family will be able to enroll with a minimal delay of no more than three years.”

ElectricPhase on October 1, 2013 at 12:03 PM

This sums it up.

Free Indeed on October 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM

I will not submit to a cabal who read George Orwell’s 1984 not as a terrifying warning, but as an instruction manual. Nor will I submit to the dictates of those who attempt to trample the right of free speech of others in the halls of government who are warning us about the looming tyranny. I refer to those sons of liberty who, as Camus wrote, “are not all legitimate or to be admired. Those who applaud it only when it justifies their privileges and shout nothing but censorship when it threatens them are not on our side.”

If (when) the IRS or HHS or any other such entity attempts to extort a tax or fee of any kind for not participating in mandated commerce, they will be met with resistance. I will not pay any such tax or fee.

Make sure they never owe you taxes. They can’t do anything legal against you. They can only retain the ‘whatever it is’ if they owe you anything back. Don’t put yourselves in that position.

Of course they can in time change the laws, like in Russia or Zimbabwe.

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM

“sign up – unsuccessful”

“Important: Your account couldnt be created at this time. The system is unavailable.” (yes, that is a direct copy, the typo is in the code)

And so it goes……

I did 22 years in the Navy, so I have a high tolerance for this kind of bureaucratic failure. But I can only imagine how the “gimme NOW” crowd is going to react.

Jeff Weimer on October 1, 2013 at 12:05 PM

It’s like the DMV. Without the surly middle aged attendant.

RovesChins on October 1, 2013 at 12:00 PM

A long time ago I worked for a HMO customer service, it won’t be very long before they get surly if not already. I can only imagine.

MontanaMmmm on October 1, 2013 at 12:06 PM

this is pretty hilariously sad

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on October 1, 2013 at 12:07 PM

And if it weren’t for the GOP’s stupidity this would be what everyone is talking about today.

MJBrutus on October 1, 2013 at 11:25 AM

I think they can talk about BOTH and because of the shut down, they are paying attention.
How much do you pay for rent under Obama’s scr0tum?

RovesChins on October 1, 2013 at 12:07 PM

this is pretty hilariously sad

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on October 1, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Fify, 100% free of charge

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:08 PM

The glitches have been traced to a couple of rogue agents in the Cincinnati office.

mankai on October 1, 2013 at 12:08 PM

I wanna know who sucked a mile of d!ck to get the contract to build this abomination.

Your health care, brought to you by the lowest bidder.

Jeff Weimer on October 1, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Maybe they should have hosted ObamaNoCare as an eBay Store. The account support, security and high-traffic infrastructure is established and turnkey. Heck, they even have PayPal to pay for this free health insurance.

Tsar of Earth on October 1, 2013 at 12:09 PM

Your health care, brought to you by the lowest bidder.

Jeff Weimer on October 1, 2013 at 12:08 PM

They’re all foreigners, in the US legally, or illegally. It’s all documented, really.

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Your health care, brought to you by the lowest bidder.

Jeff Weimer on October 1, 2013 at 12:08 PM

The US unemployed IT specialists didn’t even get to bid for it.

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:10 PM

How much do you pay for rent under Obama’s scr0tum?

RovesChins on October 1, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Yeah, like that was needed.

MJBrutus on October 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM

I dunno.

I think the Dems are getting a lucky break because of the timing of all this.

If the GOP hadn’t chosen the CR-fight as its cross to die on, today’s utter failure of the exchanges could have been the impetus we needed to actually accomplish Delay with an eye towards Repeal and Replace.

Ah well.

RightWay79 on October 1, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Life’s a glitch: ObamaCare websites plagued by bugs on launch day; Update: Feds apologize

And, the government is shutdown, too!!!

Best day I’ve had in ages.

Resist We Much on October 1, 2013 at 12:12 PM

How much do you pay for rent under Obama’s scr0tum?

RovesChins on October 1, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Yeah, like that was needed.

MJBrutus on October 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM

It’s a valid question.

RovesChins on October 1, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Okay. If they can’t even get a website to work (many multiples of websites by the sound of it), why would ANYONE in their right mind give them ANY personal information (SSN, etc.)? With the actual websites this bad, how bad is the “security”?

(I know, it all goes right to the NSA, so not to worry!)

UnderstandingisPower on October 1, 2013 at 12:13 PM

For me the Rollout of Obamacare being times with the Shutdown helps the GOP. If they weren’t so incompetent they could really capitalize, but instead it will likely be a wash IMO.

Obama wants to talk about Obamacare and its awesome benefits, but the media is focused on the Shutdown – a shutdown because of Obamacare – which is being rolled out right now and failing.

Makes it really difficult to blame the GOP – though the media will certainly try.

Ca97 on October 1, 2013 at 12:13 PM

They’re all foreigners, in the US legally, or illegally. It’s all documented, really.

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:10 PM

The UK company that the Obama administration awarded a $1 billion-plus contract to implement the federal exchanges is…

Company with $1.2 billion Obamacare contract under investigation for ‘serious fraud’

Resist We Much on October 1, 2013 at 12:14 PM

The Swine in Chief at work

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Popcorn…watch this.

MontanaMmmm on October 1, 2013 at 12:15 PM

They had three years to work out the kinks.

The government has a hard time doing routine upgrades (programs and infrastructure) let alone trying to build something like the exchanges from scratch. Government project planners don’t seem to know diddly about project planning.

chemman on October 1, 2013 at 12:15 PM

RovesChins on October 1, 2013 at 12:12 PM

I know. I get the belligerence towards any who don’t toe the crowd’s line and all that. You want to fit in and all and playing the schoolyard bully helps. I get it.

MJBrutus on October 1, 2013 at 12:15 PM

The idea that this can be blamed on the shutdown won’t fly. People already KNOW what it’s like to deal with the government.

For example, my wife had to go to the social security office to resolve some screwed up paperwork for her mother. She was there for four hours going from one official to another with no one seeming to know what was going on and who was responsible. She left with the issue still unresolved.

As I said to her later, “what do you expect? it’s not like you’re a CUSTOMER or anything. They don’t need your business. Where are you going to go?”

So, big surprise, a government Web site is messed up beyond all belief. Call me when someone actually loses their job over this.

PackerBronco on October 1, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Best day I’ve had in ages.

Resist We Much on October 1, 2013 at 12:12 PM

“Dark soul” you :) It’s a great day to be a free citizen of the land in search of her soul and foundation.

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Popcorn…watch this.

MontanaMmmm on October 1, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Sorry, I should have refreshed.
AP beat me to it.

MontanaMmmm on October 1, 2013 at 12:16 PM

MJBrutus on October 1, 2013 at 12:15 PM

This from the Troll who landed on this sight cursing every poster out who did not agree with him.

kingsjester on October 1, 2013 at 12:17 PM

MSNBC slowly learning that OCare’s message to the country is “Lean Forward”

mankai on October 1, 2013 at 12:17 PM

Best day I’ve had in ages.

Resist We Much on October 1, 2013 at 12:12 PM

“Dark soul” you :) It’s a great day to be a free citizen of the land in search of her soul and foundation.

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:16 PM

+100000000000000000000000000

Resist We Much on October 1, 2013 at 12:17 PM

kingsjester on October 1, 2013 at 12:17 PM

Oh gee. And years later you still can’t let it go. How Christian of you.

MJBrutus on October 1, 2013 at 12:18 PM

MJBrutus on October 1, 2013 at 12:15 PM

In all sincerity, you get what you get because you serve it. You don’t even realize that all we want is to “not fit in” with the sheepleton, the same thing you claim.

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Prediction: Within a few days the Web sites will be down, replaced with a single page providing a phone number for users to call to set up the exchange. They’ll try do it the “old fashioned way” but the word goes out that this train must go forward.

PackerBronco on October 1, 2013 at 12:19 PM

MJBrutus on October 1, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Thanks for admitting it. Speak the truth and shame the Devil.

kingsjester on October 1, 2013 at 12:19 PM

I have a little sympathy for the software developers…I’m sure the requirements were changing everyday.

tlynch001 on October 1, 2013 at 12:19 PM

I think the shutdown helps Obama, because any problems with the health exchanges can be passed off as an effort by the GOP to sabotage the program. It’s not true, but he says things that aren’t true all the time, and seldom gets called on it.

hawksruleva on October 1, 2013 at 12:19 PM

RovesChins on October 1, 2013 at 12:12 PM

I know. I get the belligerence towards any who don’t toe the crowd’s line and all that. You want to fit in and all and playing the schoolyard bully helps. I get it.

MJBrutus on October 1, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Doesn’t toe the line? You constantly recite the democrat talking points here and then wonder why you get slammed harder than your mom on $.99 beer night.
Yes, that was necessary.
Bully. Yes, now I know you make your home under those tiny stones.

RovesChins on October 1, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Maybe it’s time for Hillary to stumble in and save the day with her “Peregruzka” button, or something.

Pork-Chop on October 1, 2013 at 12:20 PM

MSNBC slowly learning that OCare’s message to the country is “Lean Forward”

mankai on October 1, 2013 at 12:17 PM

They still haven’t figured out if they are the flukers or the fluked.

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Just make a law that the exchange software has to work?

Problem fixed!

jukin3 on October 1, 2013 at 12:20 PM

kingsjester on October 1, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Admit that years ago I responded to others in kind on this site? I never denied it.

MJBrutus on October 1, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Best day I’ve had in ages.

Resist We Much on October 1, 2013 at 12:12 PM

It’s incredibly satisfying to live the calmness of the day. It’s serenity pure.

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:22 PM

OK, AP, this is ironically funny:

AP: A new cry in France: Let us work Sundays!

HotAir.com: Error 404 – Not Found

lol

Resist We Much on October 1, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:18 PM

You know and I know that you’re talking nonsense. The people who comment most often here think alike and have zero tolerance for comments that don’t echo the group think. That when a different POV is expressed, it is an excuse to gang up and bully the commenter to try to chase him away.

MJBrutus on October 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Popcorn…watch this.

MontanaMmmm on October 1, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Did you notice that the ‘denial of service’ webpage said “Please Visit the Site at 12 Noon.”

So now, the herd will do so – and overwhelm the system again – at noon.

Tsar of Earth on October 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM

MJBrutus on October 1, 2013 at 12:15 PM

One more friendly reply. We don’t want “to fit in”.

You strike me as a very independent type. Why would you even go to “want to fit in”? It’s terrible to be common. I appreciate that you and us are blessedly individualistic creatures.

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Anyone see what’s happening at the WWII Memorial this morning, Honor Flight group of WWII Veterans showed up to find barricades around the memorial, They knocked down the barricades and went in!!!! Love it! Last update I saw Park Police called, like to see them try to remove the Veterans, talk about bad optics. Hold the ground my fellow Vets, it’s yours! Ace and Twitchy are covering it.

D-fusit on October 1, 2013 at 12:25 PM

I have a little sympathy for the software developers…I’m sure the requirements were changing everyday.

tlynch001 on October 1, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Eh, they can’t even populate the security questions. That should have been set a long time ago as it has nothing to do with the requirements.

Jeff Weimer on October 1, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:18 PM

You know and I know that you’re talking nonsense. The people who comment most often here think alike and have zero tolerance for comments that don’t echo the group think. That when a different POV is expressed, it is an excuse to gang up and bully the commenter to try to chase him away.

MJBrutus on October 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Mommy ran out of pepperoni pizza bites, Schadenfreude!
Nobody gives a damn about your point of view…MSNBC’s ratings confirm it.

RovesChins on October 1, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Just make a law that the exchange software has to work?

Problem fixed!

jukin3 on October 1, 2013 at 12:20 PM

The Democrats have a new infomercial out on how to get things done called How To Do It.

mankai on October 1, 2013 at 12:26 PM

D-fusit on October 1, 2013 at 12:25 PM

God bless them all. Like my late Daddy who landed at Normandy, the Greatest Generation, indeed!

kingsjester on October 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM

MJBrutus on October 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Nah, dear MJBrutus, we just don’t want to be sheepleton like the Jeantels and the phone-lady, nor like the RINOs who always want to be middle of the road…kill.

You are too smart to claim otherwise. The TEA party is the way it is because the folks are highly free and independent thinking. They are a gaggle of all kinds of independent “wackobirds”, proud of it. You s/b glad that they exist. You have the mind and the spirit but you fight the wrong contingent.

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM

MJBrutus on October 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM

When you’re wrong, you’re wrong.

Jeff Weimer on October 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM

First impressions last. And what a grand first impression Obamacare is making.

Christien on October 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM

The people who comment most often here think alike and have zero tolerance for comments that don’t echo the group think. That when a different POV is expressed, it is an excuse to gang up and bully the commenter to try to chase him away.

MJBrutus on October 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM

I guess you’ve missed the SSM threads on which I’ve been.

Resist We Much on October 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM

kingsjester on October 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Amen Brother, Amen!

D-fusit on October 1, 2013 at 12:28 PM

And if it weren’t for the GOP’s stupidity this would be what everyone is talking about today.

MJBrutus on October 1, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Everyone IS talking about it today. The panda-cam blackout got old fast.

And all it’s going to take is one late night talk show host, or one tv news show host to attempt an exchange enrollment live and on the air and that joke’s really over.

Or maybe the Youtube clips of a thousand irate citizens will beat Big Media to it.

Government shutdown and enrollment glitches add to up a single meme: government can’t get anything right.

de rigueur on October 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM

First impressions last. And what a grand first impression Obamacare is making.

Christien on October 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Love at first sight/site :)

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Everyone IS talking about it today. The panda-cam blackout got old fast.

The WH claimed the “had nothing to do with the panda and such”, then put the cam in…

Government shutdown and enrollment glitches add to up a single meme: government can’t get anything right.

de rigueur on October 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Maybe if they privatize the website development, enrolling, the plan administration, everything, then … oh, we DID have a private insurance system? This was meant to be an improvement on that? Oh, that’s funny! The government running anything more complicated than printing checks and sending them out … it will be a, I don’t know, I can’t think of the right phrase … train wreck? How’s that?

Paul-Cincy on October 1, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Lol the WH is already blaming congress

Sent linky to tips

ROFL

cmsinaz on October 1, 2013 at 12:33 PM

The people who comment most often here think alike and have zero tolerance for comments that don’t echo the group think. That when a different POV is expressed, it is an excuse to gang up and bully the commenter to try to chase him away.

MJBrutus on October 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM

I guess you’ve missed the SSM threads on which I’ve been.

Resist We Much on October 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Eh, MJ Brutus thinks himself a thinker….he’s just reciting talking points he heard from the Brit Hume types…and heard constantly on CNN/MSNBC.
We’ve heard it before, but he wants us to swallow it whole.
And yes, SSM and legalization of drugs threads bring the pain.

RovesChins on October 1, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:27 PM

I’m very much in accord with the original and stated goals of the TP. That’s to say, I am all in favor of limited, smaller government that is constrained by the Constitution. I am in favor of a much more libertarian form of government as well as a much more federated government which leaves more power closer to those who are governed.

That said, those who have come to represent the TP have by and large made a mockery of those goals and have adopted tactics which have only set back the goals they purport to want to advance. My criticism has mostly been with them and their grossly stupid tactics. This government shutdown is a prime example.

MJBrutus on October 1, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Check this out.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

Damn right I support this woman.

Sarah Palin took a clever shot at Obama tonight in advising the Republicans to remind everyone that a government shutdown isn’t armageddon like Democrats would have them believe, but rather it’s a pinprick. She then reminds Hannity that Obama said the other week when he was ready to bomb Syria that America doesn’t do pinpricks. She agrees, saying we don’t do pinpricks but sometimes we elect them.

ToddPA on October 1, 2013 at 12:34 PM

You’ll never guess who queried Ben Carson after he challenged Obama

‘I had my first encounter with the IRS…’

- Dr Ben Carson

Resist We Much on October 1, 2013 at 12:34 PM

what is happening now is the testing of the system which was not really done before today.

gerrym51 on October 1, 2013 at 12:34 PM

WaPo: ‘Ways to Punish Congress … Line ‘Em Up and Shoot ‘Em’

Whatever happened to gun control and NuTone©?

Resist We Much on October 1, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Exchanges have a bandwidth issue?

That’s been Obama’s problem for the past 4 3/4 years, not enough bandwidth.

socalcon on October 1, 2013 at 12:38 PM

The UK company that the Obama administration awarded a $1 billion-plus contract to implement the federal exchanges is…

Company with $1.2 billion Obamacare contract under investigation for ‘serious fraud’

Resist We Much on October 1, 2013 at 12:14 PM

“When a foreign entity is involved, I think that means that U.S. interests are protected,” he said.

What?

mankai on October 1, 2013 at 12:38 PM

ToddPA, here it is.

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:39 PM

‘I had my first encounter with the IRS…’

– Dr Ben Carson

Resist We Much on October 1, 2013 at 12:34 PM

Good. Carson is the wrong man to mess with. They will regret his. They’d be all over Sarah Palin if she wasn’t a former VP candidate.

Paul-Cincy on October 1, 2013 at 12:39 PM

what is happening now is the testing of the system which was not really done before today.

gerrym51 on October 1, 2013 at 12:34 PM

You never want a roll-out without a stress test period.

socalcon on October 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM

IBM Web Application Server

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Oh, now I KNOW it’s a clusterf*!! Only a non-developer would choose such a bloated piece of dog barf as their go-to software! IBM makes the WORST web app server out there. It’s always overbloated, and a nightmare to get it running properly. But of course it’s the Repubs fault somehow…

dominigan on October 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM

The republicans should hold a ‘We told you so’ press conference and hammer the point home that it don’t work.

meci on October 1, 2013 at 12:42 PM

dominigan on October 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM

The best stuff is usually free. When it comes to Web App Servers, I like JBoss. The problem both in government and in the commercial sector is that managers don’t trust SW they don’t shell out big bucks for. Never mind that they can pay all the money they want for support contracts for free software if it helps them sleep at night.

MJBrutus on October 1, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Curious to see if I’d experience the same thing, I was redirected to the New York State exchange website.

Hey, me too!
Weird though, what with me being in SoCal and all…
ba-dump, paaah

mrt721 on October 1, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Well I guess we know where the $67 million didn’t go to

Beta testing

cmsinaz on October 1, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Thanks much…..she’s not on Fox much, but when she is,
there’s always a nasty zinger at this President.

ToddPA on October 1, 2013 at 12:49 PM

I’m very much in accord with the original and stated goals of the TP. That’s to say, I am all in favor of limited, smaller government that is constrained by the Constitution. I am in favor of a much more libertarian form of government as well as a much more federated government which leaves more power closer to those who are governed.

We are brothers then.

That said, those who have come to represent the TP have by and large made a mockery of those goals and have adopted tactics which have only set back the goals they purport to want to advance. My criticism has mostly been with them and their grossly stupid tactics. This government shutdown is a prime example.

MJBrutus on October 1, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Internalize this. It’s significant. I don’t want to be thuggish, like the opposition is. However, silky gloves will never beat the incredibly Utopian and derelict looters/moochers. The fight must be had. Civility brought Dole, McVain and Romney…you know the story.

The lefists, the never truly liberal/progressive, the poseurs who are Stalinists in aims/deeds, fight dirty. Gloves are off.

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:49 PM

‘I had my first encounter with the IRS…’

– Dr Ben Carson

Resist We Much on October 1, 2013 at 12:34 PM

When good black men leave the plantation…leftists are never truly liberal/progressive, never.

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:51 PM

The slow motion TRAIN WRECK has begun!

GarandFan on October 1, 2013 at 12:52 PM

God bless Ramirez and RWM, true national treasures, the kind the land doesn’t even deserve…were it not for all the other lesser lands…

Sorry, my friend Brutus…grammar and all that is not that significant.

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:52 PM

ToddPA, here it is.

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:39 PM

While I have the highest regard for Sarah Palin if there’s one thing about her I’d change it’s her not infrequently putting down those she doesn’t like by make comments about their genitals. I don’t know what to make of it. I guess everyone has a devilish streak in them. And it’s tame compared to what goes through the minds of most men. But they don’t come out and say it. I think she really prefers to be on the outside of public service, where she can say what she wants, when she wants.

Paul-Cincy on October 1, 2013 at 12:53 PM

The slow motion TRAIN WRECK has begun!

GarandFan on October 1, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Are you kidding us? The Titanic is way into the water but the music keeps playing, loudly.

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:53 PM

We’re going to look back at this day like we do 9/11.

Today is the day that America completes it’s transformation into a permanent Ruling class and a nation of serfs.

…..and all the while Trent Lott, John Cornyn, Mitch McConnell, John Boehner are all working on destroying the ones in Congress standing against it.


Find their facebook pages, Alinsky them.

PappyD61 on October 1, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:49 PM

I couldn’t agree more. My problem is not with how rough their tactics are (and compared to the D’s they’re rather tame). My problem is with how stupid their tactics are!

By stupid I mean empty, symbolic gestures that accomplish absolutely nothing aside from highlighting their own impotence. Like Bachman, submitting bills over and over to repeal Obamacare. Yeah, do it once for laughs. After that, it only served to self-identify her as a kook. Likewise, Cruz standing up to non-filibuster a cloture measure that he agreed with Reid to end on schedule and vote in favor of! Kooks and carnival barkers.

MJBrutus on October 1, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Since we had to pass this in order to find out what’s in it I suppose we have to implement it in order to find out how to do it.

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ghostwalker1 on October 1, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Internalize this. It’s significant. I don’t want to be thuggish, like the opposition is. However, silky gloves will never beat the incredibly Utopian and derelict looters/moochers. The fight must be had. Civility brought Dole, McVain and Romney…you know the story.

The lefists, the never truly liberal/progressive, the poseurs who are Stalinists in aims/deeds, fight dirty. Gloves are off.

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Very well said. In this political environment, ‘measured’, ‘mature’, ‘adult’ voices of ‘reason’ are just farts in a gale. Obama got elected, the reelected(!) by spitting out the same meaningless, contradictory, and blatantly false platitudes like a machine gun on full auto for five years straight. You can’t fight that with ‘maturity’.

ElectricPhase on October 1, 2013 at 12:58 PM

But wait, this can’t be true.
Verbalunatic is over on the other thread saying all these problems are BS – everything is great – you rethuglicans are just making this stuff up.

dentarthurdent on October 1, 2013 at 1:01 PM

I couldn’t agree more. My problem is not with how rough their tactics are (and compared to the D’s they’re rather tame). My problem is with how stupid their tactics are!

I’ve often, almost daily, called the Rs stupid. It’s a given that they are the “stupid party”. Otherwise such incredible oafs wouldn’t be in charge of the land, beg. with the oaf in chief.

Bachmann is gone. She had her good points too. I’ll always be glad that she did serve. She identified a lot, with much guts and fervor, even if occasionally she was wrong. Look at the other side and you will find 90% of utter Jeantel-dumb. Not excusing any of her dumb stuff, to be certain.

Likewise, Cruz standing up to non-filibuster a cloture measure that he agreed with Reid to end on schedule and vote in favor of! Kooks and carnival barkers.

MJBrutus on October 1, 2013 at 12:55 PM

On this we disagree. The 21 hours will always be recorded in the annals of the US history as the glorious education/lesson about more than obama’care’, the “you fly first class while the citizens fly coach”…this was soooo significant.

When I woke up and he was still talking…having assumed at first that the TV was showing reruns…I realized instinctively what this was in history. It will never be forgotten or ignored. You will realized this later.

Deal – you are not my enemy. You see things differently and fight as you please, and are fully entitled to do, as a still free citizen. We fight the same enemies overall. That is way more significant. Cheers!

Schadenfreude on October 1, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Dear leader calling it the Republican shutdown

Hes spewing the same tripe from yesterday right now

cmsinaz on October 1, 2013 at 1:03 PM

Blaming bush again

SSDD

Blame the gop for everything

cmsinaz on October 1, 2013 at 1:04 PM

We apologize that wait times on the site and hotline are longer than expected!

It’s almost as if the opponents of this piece of crap warned you this would happen!

Good Lt on October 1, 2013 at 1:04 PM

How many people still believe that the public sector is more effective and efficient than the private sector?

The SDLC ‘Waterfall’ in the public sector works something like this….

1) Legislation proposed.

2) Legislation passed.

3) Contracts awarded to most favored applicants based on donations

4) ***Utopia and Unicorn Miracle Happens***

5) Successful Implementation and Rollout

6) More money tossed at developers to ‘enhance’ the ‘successful’ implementation and rollout by changing bugs to features.

7) Fight all efforts to ‘reform’ or ‘repair’ – it’s working as intended.

Athos on October 1, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Someone call him out on his MULTIPLE delays he has imposed on ocare for Pete’s sake

cmsinaz on October 1, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Let it burn….

oldmans on October 1, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Is he really blaming Pres. Bush?? What part of this is the fault if GWB?

esr1951 on October 1, 2013 at 1:06 PM

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