Poll shows plurality of small-business owners supporting gov’t shutdown

posted at 8:01 am on September 30, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Democrats and the White House warn that a government shutdown over the budget impasse and the fight over ObamaCare will damage the economy. Those on the front lines of the economy seem ready to make that sacrifice, at least for a while.  According to a poll last week from Pepperdine University, 48% of small-business owners back a government shutdown — some for as long as three months:

Down to the final days of the nation’s current spending plan, with negotiations over a new one at a standstill, nearly half of small business owners are in favor of shutting the government down, according to a new poll.

Researchers at Pepperdine University’s Graziadio School of Business and Management conducted the survey, which found that 48 percent of business owners support at least a temporary government shutdown, compared to 42 percent who say policymakers should hurry up and strike a deal. Of the poll’s 1,387 respondents, more than 90 percent own businesses with no more than 200 workers.

Half of respondents said they could get behind a shutdown for up to a month, and nearly a third would support shuttering the government for up to three months.

Beyond that, three in four business owners worry their firms would start to be affected by the closure, and nearly all believe the economy would start to suffer. Among employers with less than $5 million in annual revenue, 41 percent said a shutdown of more three months would force them to pull back on their hiring plans.

Jazz mentioned this yesterday, but a short shutdown of a few days while the House and Senate haggle probably won’t mean much, either politically or economically.  The poll bears that out.  Almost nine in ten of respondents think that a shutdown of a single day will either have no impact (69%) or only a slightly negative impact (17%). After a week, that shifts to 44% and 29%, respectively, but still three-quarters thinking a shutdown will have a negligible impact on the economy, and at two weeks it’s 27% and 32%. At one month, though, it drops to 13% and 27%.

On the other hand, a longer period won’t result in job losses right away.  It takes 2 months to get out to 20% of respondents considering staff reductions. Even at 6 or more months, only 39% of small businesses believe a government shutdown would force them to lay off employees — although for companies of $100 million in revenue or more, the 50% mark comes at 5 months.

Republicans have to be cheered by this finding, too:

pepperdine-chartWhat do small businesses want? According to the charts, 63% want a one-year delay in ObamaCare’s implementation, while only 27% want it to go into effect tomorrow as scheduled.  Forty-seven percent want full repeal, while another 27% want revisions, for an overall opposition of 74%.  Sixty percent expect the law to force health care costs to rise, while only 11% believe those costs will go down.  Fifty-eight percent expect to reduce their benefits package, 49% expect to reduce bonuses, and 47% plan to pull back on future hiring as a result.

Small wonder they don’t mind a shutdown.


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One small problem – small businesses neither donate nor rent-seek anywhere near the level as Big Business, and Big Business needs Big Gubmint.

Steve Eggleston on September 30, 2013 at 8:06 AM

Steve Eggleston on September 30, 2013 at 8:06 AM

Indeed. Follow the link to the data and see how the largest businesses in this poll reacted to the questions. Confirms your theory.

Ed Morrissey on September 30, 2013 at 8:08 AM

The Leftists worst nightmare is a shutdown and the average Joe can’t feel it, doesn’t even notice, or doesn’t even care. It would be a slap in the face to their entire “statist” ideology and, dare I say, religion of Big Government.

visions on September 30, 2013 at 8:08 AM

……and keep er shutdown!!!

Individual liberty Arsonist over and out from Possum Holler!

PappyD61 on September 30, 2013 at 8:09 AM

One small problem – small businesses neither donate nor rent-seek anywhere near the level as Big Business, and Big Business needs Big Gubmint.

Steve Eggleston on September 30, 2013 at 8:06 AM

But wait… I’ve been told by countless Lefties/Dem voters that they are “against” big, evil corporations that have “too much power.”

Are you telling me that their votes and lust for Big Government enables those same eevvviillll corporations? How can this be? /

visions on September 30, 2013 at 8:11 AM

That entire poll had some interesting results.

gophergirl on September 30, 2013 at 8:17 AM

Individual liberty Arsonist over and out from Possum Holler!

PappyD61 on September 30, 2013 at 8:09 AM

You just hate this president more than you care about the country.

- Congressman David Scott

The Tea Party is holding this country hostage. The House needs to step up tell the TPM to stand down and give Obama exactly what he wants. To do otherwise would be racist or something. /

And if the sarc tag isn’t enough let me make myself clear. I STAND WITH TED CRUZ. The House gave the Senate a reasonable bill (what they probably should have given initially instead of a full defund of Obamacare). Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi were not even willing to sit down with Republicans on Sunday (both were not even in DC). And now they are running out the clock. There will be a shutdown.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 8:19 AM

Poll shows plurality of small-business owners supporting gov’t shutdown

…so where is gummeandpokeme to give us his analysis?

Half of respondents said they could get behind a shutdown for up to a month, and nearly a third would support shuttering the government for up to three months

…and this is very telling in such a STRONG economy!

KOOLAID2 on September 30, 2013 at 8:21 AM

The Leftists worst nightmare is a shutdown and the average Joe can’t feel it, doesn’t even notice, or doesn’t even care. It would be a slap in the face to their entire “statist” ideology and, dare I say, religion of Big Government.

visions on September 30, 2013 at 8:08 AM

Mail will still be delivered. Checks will still go out. Airports will still be operating……

Unless you’re waiting for a passport you probably won’t even notice. But one other thing is different since 1995. Social media, the internet, blogs, and cable news. None of these really were around in 1995 to the point that people were paying attention.

It isn’t as easy for the Dems to pin a “shutdown” exclusively on the GOP.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 8:23 AM

On local radio just now, a small business owner just called in. He had met with his staff to talk about the increase in premiums with their new healthcare rates. The staff was in shock. They thought their healthcare would be free under Obamacare.

Is this typical or does this guy employ idiots? Are we really less than a day away from launching a massive intrusive government program that the public still has no clue about?

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 8:28 AM

The power of small business owners is that we talk to a wide variety of people. Many of these people have jobs but are low information voters for whatever reason (work, family, etc). I’m always trying to gently flip them toward our cause – sometimes with great success.

mjbrooks3 on September 30, 2013 at 8:28 AM

But wait… I’ve been told by countless Lefties/Dem voters that they are “against” big, evil corporations that have “too much power.”

Are you telling me that their votes and lust for Big Government enables those same eevvviillll corporations? How can this be? /

visions on September 30, 2013 at 8:11 AM

Have you ever watched “Caddyshack”? Judge Smails was a Rat.

Steve Eggleston on September 30, 2013 at 8:29 AM

It’s not as if our current government has done anything other than stifle the economy.
Shut it down.
Let businesses flourish and let freedom ring.

justltl on September 30, 2013 at 8:31 AM

and nearly all believe the economy would start to suffer.

When the Federal Government becomes the major driver in the economy it is time for a do over because you are done. Just ask most of Europe.

Johnnyreb on September 30, 2013 at 8:33 AM

48% of small-business owners back a government shutdown — some for as long as three months:

At what point do the Senate Dems and the lazy stupid coward in the White House change their tune about no negotiations with Republicans? I’m hoping the House GOP maintains a backbone and doesn’t quail at the last minute in a fit of “moderation.”

If for no reason, you don’t reward bad behavior in children and giving the rat-eared bastard a “clean” CR would be doing just that.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 8:37 AM

Will a shutdown adversely affect the NFL, McDonalds, Netflix, beer distributors, or iPhones?//

mjbrooks3 on September 30, 2013 at 8:42 AM

The power of small business owners is that we talk to a wide variety of people. Many of these people have jobs but are low information voters for whatever reason (work, family, etc). I’m always trying to gently flip them toward our cause – sometimes with great success.

mjbrooks3 on September 30, 2013 at 8:28 AM

I tend to think that a fair number of conservative-leaning folks with younger families just don’t have the time to engage politics on a regular basis. Instead, they’ve been lulled into security by MSM outlets when it comes to the economy and national security. As a result, the come away thinking that there’s not much difference between the Dems and the GOP and, indeed, the Dems are probably more thoughtful and reasonable about these issues. Then, after the MSM has vilified the GOP on abortion, same-sex marriage, and safety-net issues, these people are invariably repelled by the GOP.

Sadly, they need to take the time to be very engaged to sift through the noise to see how the Left is taking over their lives.

BuckeyeSam on September 30, 2013 at 8:45 AM

It occurs to me on this fine morning that His Highness is sitting behind his desk and smirking into his hand over this looming shutdown. Considering Emperor Dog Eaters impeccable track record of horrible optics, wouldn’t this be an indication we should support a shutdown? Because if President Waffles is all for it the odds are that it will be a political disaster for him.

NotCoach on September 30, 2013 at 8:45 AM

“What impact do you think a U.S. Federal Government shutdown would have on the U.S. economy for various shutdown periods?”

Why was there no option for a positive impact?

/s (kind of)

Dusty on September 30, 2013 at 8:47 AM

Congressman Andy Harris (Republican M.D. from Maryland) being interviewed right now. Thinks that a shutdown is inevitable because Harry Reid decided not to convene the Senate yesterday.

Suggests that if the Senate rejects the House bill, next one is going to have the Vitter amendment attached to it which would make it that much more difficult for Senate Dems to reject.

On Obamacare, Harris says that rates aren’t even available but people are going to be shocked when they find out how much Obamacare is going to cost them personally. The numbers being thrown around by the administration are lies. Even the “bronze plan” is going to cost thousands of dollars before Obamacare pays for anything.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Steve Eggleston on September 30, 2013 at 8:06 AM

Indeed. Follow the link to the data and see how the largest businesses in this poll reacted to the questions. Confirms your theory.

Ed Morrissey on September 30, 2013 at 8:08 AM

Thanks for this article Ed,

BTW, I’m in mourning today….on top of an already
dismal year for the Stillers, over the weekend, we
lost one of the Greats, L.C. GREENWOOD.

ToddPA on September 30, 2013 at 8:48 AM

It occurs to me on this fine morning that His Highness is sitting behind his desk and smirking into his hand over this looming shutdown. Considering Emperor Dog Eaters impeccable track record of horrible optics, wouldn’t this be an indication we should support a shutdown? Because if President Waffles is all for it the odds are that it will be a political disaster for him.

NotCoach on September 30, 2013 at 8:45 AM

The lazy stupid coward does not sit behind his desk. He uses that artifact of American history as a foot stool.

The real question, IMO, is what the rat-eared bastard is going to do if the shutdown lasts more than a couple days. Does he do a presser or address to the nation? Does he throw a temper tantrum in the Rose Garden as he did when his gun-grabbing legislation failed? He can’t Executive Order his way out of this one. In short, the longer this goes on, the more he and his filthy party are going to be blamed.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 8:52 AM

The Leftists worst nightmare is a shutdown and the average Joe can’t feel it, doesn’t even notice, or doesn’t even care. It would be a slap in the face to their entire “statist” ideology and, dare I say, religion of Big Government.

visions on September 30, 2013 at 8:08 AM

For that reason, Obama and the Democrats will try to make a shutdown as painful as possible – similar to the way they handled sequestration.

TarheelBen on September 30, 2013 at 9:03 AM

Half of respondents said they could get behind a shutdown for up to a month, and nearly a third would support shuttering the government for up to three months

…and this is very telling in such a STRONG economy!

KOOLAID2 on September 30, 2013 at 8:21 AM

It tells me that business owners of all sizes have concluded that while things aren’t great now, a government shutdown even for a long as six months will not have nearly the adverse impact on them that Obamacare will have if enacted as it stands.

When that many people across all income levels tells the government that their Grand Plan is a clusterf**k in the making, the government should either listen, and change its plans accordingly. Or, if it doesn’t want to do so, resign.

After all, aren’t the Democrats always demanding we listen to “the voice of the people”?

Well, except when “the people” are telling them something they don’t want to hear. Like “You do realize that this will wreck the economy?”

Or, “Oh, so you want to wreck the economy so you can create a new one more to your liking?”

Or even just, “You really blew it out your a$$es, this time, didn’t you?”

Because those are the three messages of the Pepperdine survey.

I’d say that any politician who votes for, or otherwise enables, the enactment of this law in its present form should be impeached. On grounds of having demonstrated unfitness for office on grounds of serious mental deficiency.

clear ether

eon

eon on September 30, 2013 at 9:09 AM

For that reason, Obama and the Democrats will try to make a shutdown as painful as possible – similar to the way they handled sequestration.

TarheelBen on September 30, 2013 at 9:03 AM

Yeah, we’ll see pictures of second-graders standing in front of the Smithsonian looking at a sign saying that the Air and Space museum is closed due to government shutdown. We’ll see a caravan of trailers leaving some national park where campers have been kicked out. We’ll read of somebody with a dying family member back in the old country unable to get their passport renewed…..

The reality is that the Honey Boo Boo crowd won’t even notice government shutdown nor will they care.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 9:10 AM

The “narrative” has been set by the media. The impasse is caused by the “extremely extreme extremists” on the Right. But you knew that.
http://spectator.org/archives/2013/09/30/extremely-extreme-extremists

onlineanalyst on September 30, 2013 at 9:12 AM

Is this typical or does this guy employ idiots? Are we really less than a day away from launching a massive intrusive government program that the public still has no clue about?

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 8:28 AM

This is why, as much as we love Ted Cruz, many people want O-Care to start right on schedule. The low-info dummies need to SEE and FEEL the pain in order for it to be real. RIght now, both sides are talking in hypotheticals.

Maddie on September 30, 2013 at 9:13 AM

I tend to think that a fair number of conservative-leaning folks with younger families just don’t have the time to engage politics on a regular basis. Instead, they’ve been lulled into security by MSM outlets when it comes to the economy and national security. As a result, the come away thinking that there’s not much difference between the Dems and the GOP and, indeed, the Dems are probably more thoughtful and reasonable about these issues. Then, after the MSM has vilified the GOP on abortion, same-sex marriage, and safety-net issues, these people are invariably repelled by the GOP.

Sadly, they need to take the time to be very engaged to sift through the noise to see how the Left is taking over their lives.

BuckeyeSam on September 30, 2013 at 8:45 AM

Ummm, I’m paying very close attention to politics. I think there’s not much difference between the Dems and the GOP right now. I’d say both parties are in full agreement on taking over our lives.

ElectricPhase on September 30, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Is this typical or does this guy employ idiots? Are we really less than a day away from launching a massive intrusive government program that the public still has no clue about?

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 8:28 AM

Yeah.

It might have helped if the GOP had launched a major ad campaign to spread the truth about ObamaCare. Democrats campaign all the time. The GOP waits until 6 weeks before an election.

So I’m wondering how many more criminals Obama will release from prisons because of the government shutdown? How many hospitals will he attempt to withhold funding from?
I could see Obama turning the power off on hospitals, schools and colleges and blaming it on the government shutdown. Oh.. but how could he do that? Presidents can’t do that. LOL!

JellyToast on September 30, 2013 at 9:18 AM

This is why, as much as we love Ted Cruz, many people want O-Care to start right on schedule. The low-info dummies need to SEE and FEEL the pain in order for it to be real. RIght now, both sides are talking in hypotheticals.

Maddie on September 30, 2013 at 9:13 AM

I understand the thought that Obamacare should start right away. But if we were to do that, then it ALL should start. Get rid of the exemptions and waivers that the administration is put into place. No delay in any of it or delay it all. No picking and choosing based on the politics for the Dems.

I wonder how long it will be before the Honey Boo Boo crowd who opt for the “cheap” Bronze plan will realize that they have to pay thousands out-of-pocket before Obamacare gives them “free” healthcare.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 9:21 AM

Have you ever watched “Caddyshack”? Judge Smails was a Rat.

Steve Eggleston on September 30, 2013 at 8:29 AM

How you figger? He sentenced boys younger than Danny to the gas chamber. Didn’t want to do it. Felt he owed it to them.

Lanceman on September 30, 2013 at 9:24 AM

At what point do the Senate Dems and the lazy stupid coward in the White House change their tune about no negotiations with Republicans?

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 8:37 AM

My expectation is if the GOP stands united and holds out for about a month, the Democrats will start cracking. Obama is a typical schoolyard bully and coward, and will be intimidated and back down if someone stands up to him, as Putin taught us.

Now, whether the Republicans actually hold firm for a month is another story. I’m betting on the shutdown lasting no longer than a couple days at most. The present leadership can’t afford to permit Cruz to win, or their own positions will be threatened, so SOME kind of deal with Obama will be worked out.

Doomberg on September 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM

The “narrative” has been set by the media. The impasse is caused by the “extremely extreme extremists” on the Right. But you knew that.
http://spectator.org/archives/2013/09/30/extremely-extreme-extremists

onlineanalyst on September 30, 2013 at 9:12 AM

But they haven’t determined the motive.

Al Gore is calling the “extremely extreme extremists” economic terrorists.

Jennifer Granholm says the “EEEs” have strapped bombs to their bodies and walked into the floor of the House (I think she meant that figuratively).

Obama calls it extortion.

Congressman David Scott says they are racist because they put hatred of Obama ahead of the good of the country.

Seriously, the EEEs have a branding problem. Are they terrorists, blackmailers, racists, or something else?

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM

I’m betting on the shutdown lasting no longer than a couple days at most. The present leadership can’t afford to permit Cruz to win, or their own positions will be threatened, so SOME kind of deal with Obama will be worked out.

Doomberg on September 30, 2013 at 9:26 AM

The reality is that if the shutdown lingers a couple of weeks, then it will be wrapped into the discussion on raising the debt ceiling. And wouldn’t that be fun?

If the shutdown is folded into debate over raising the debt ceiling then it could well last a month.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 9:29 AM

This is why, as much as we love Ted Cruz, many people want O-Care to start right on schedule. The low-info dummies need to SEE and FEEL the pain in order for it to be real. RIght now, both sides are talking in hypotheticals.

Maddie on September 30, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Don’t agree. We already have a majority in the country opposed to the law. We can’t afford to spend a multiple trillions on this “social experiment” to raise opposition to it from 55% to 65% while we passively wait for a Republican president and supermajority to save us some undefined amount of time down the road. We don’t have either the money and time to wait the 10-15 years this would take.

Doomberg on September 30, 2013 at 9:29 AM

The fun thing to watch when the Senate finally rolls in at the crack of 2pm is just how many Republicans are going to vote with Democrats in rejecting the House bill. Will John McCain get up and rail against those evil Republicans again?

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 9:42 AM

Even the “bronze plan” is going to cost thousands of dollars before Obamacare pays for anything.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Yep, from what I’ve seen, the “bronze plan” has deductibles close to $6000. So, for people like myself and my husband who only make about $23k a year, how exactly do we get Any benefit from this unless we are hit by a locomotive?

BeachBum on September 30, 2013 at 9:53 AM

Yep, from what I’ve seen, the “bronze plan” has deductibles close to $6000. So, for people like myself and my husband who only make about $23k a year, how exactly do we get Any benefit from this unless we are hit by a locomotive?

BeachBum on September 30, 2013 at 9:53 AM

Yeah, the “Bronze Plan” is essentially very expensive government-mandated catastrophic insurance.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 10:02 AM

If a shutdown lingers for a couple of weeks, many will then look to New Jersey and see what the outcome of the senate special election. Booker originally was supposed to win by 30 points. If he wins by 12 points or less the dems will start to cave.

veni vidi vici on September 30, 2013 at 10:02 AM

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 8:28 AM
This is absolutely playing out all over the country. HR departments are trying to get people to sign up for insurance and they are shocked, absolutely shocked that they have to pay and or pay more.
One guy, in particular, is waiting until tomorrow because he truly believes it will be free and he is being lied to by the HR person.

ORconservative on September 30, 2013 at 10:03 AM

14 HOURS TO SHUTDOWN.

4 HOURS UNTIL THE SENATE CONVENES.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 10:06 AM

This is absolutely playing out all over the country. HR departments are trying to get people to sign up for insurance and they are shocked, absolutely shocked that they have to pay and or pay more.
One guy, in particular, is waiting until tomorrow because he truly believes it will be free and he is being lied to by the HR person.

ORconservative on September 30, 2013 at 10:03 AM

Well, I’m a little surprised but I don’t know why. The lies about Obamacare offering “free” and/or cheaper healthcare coverage have been told for years. And that guy who thinks HR is lying to him… he may have to wait a while. Most exchanges aren’t ready to let people know how much their coverage is going to cost. A case of you have to enroll in it to know how much it costs.

In the meantime, Obama just played a record number of rounds of golf for a President in a given year.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 10:11 AM

Brad Dayspring ‏@BDayspring 8m

Who’s in charge? Pres Obama wanted to meet with Congressional Leadership but Harry Reid talked him out of it. Wha?

Resist We Much on September 30, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Who’s in charge? Pres Obama wanted to meet with Congressional Leadership but Harry Reid talked him out of it. Wha?

Resist We Much on September 30, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Interesting if true. Frankly, I don’t see what the point of that meeting would be. Boehner would have his head handed to him if he struck a “grand bargain” in a closed room with Obama and Harry Reid. And I don’t think “next time” would be an acceptable answer to outraged Republicans.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Frankly, I hope the Dems succeed in shutting it down. However, I also hope Zero Care goes through. There is no other way that I can see to change the minds of younger voters, who, after relentless public school indoctrination, truly believe that Obama has their best interest at heart.
OT, slightly. At the university where one of my children attends, you have to go online and opt out of a student health insurance policy through Aetna, that you are automatically enrolled in when you register for classes. To opt out you have to fill out a form on line that is incredibly intrusive. How much data can they mine? Rhetorical………..obviously tons. How infuriating though to have these questions fired at a 20 year old with a big threat at the bottom saying you can be expelled for lying on the form.
We have thoroughly lost our way.

ORconservative on September 30, 2013 at 10:29 AM

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 10:25 AM

If true, the point is that Harry Reid wants the shutdown.

Who’s the bully?

Resist We Much on September 30, 2013 at 10:30 AM

Please, “small business.” The rules are ridiculous. A manufacturer with 500 employees or a wholesaler with 100 employees is a “small business”

libfreeordie on September 30, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Please continue to confess your ignorance you reprobate godless sodomite.

Murphy9 on September 30, 2013 at 11:18 AM

The media douches think that all the people in the world will freak out if there is a federal government shutdown…

Like it has happened every time before, most of us will discover that we don’t need a damn thing all that much, and the main reason the politicians and the media are freaking out is because they know that if it does (not shut, but SLOW down for a few weeks), people might realize how fricckin useless they are, and the feds might lose their phoney baloney jobs.

Let it shut!!! Expose the looters and moochers, from both sides!!!

Schadenfreude on September 30, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Slave of HA, rocks are smarter than you.

Schadenfreude on September 30, 2013 at 11:53 AM

If true, the point is that Harry Reid wants the shutdown.

Who’s the bully?

Resist We Much on September 30, 2013 at 10:30 AM

It is true. O’Reilly was a guest on Faux. He said that the people of NV need to tie Harry to a tree, not harm him, just get him out of the senate so business c/b done.

I’d go by with water…but would just show it to him.

Schadenfreude on September 30, 2013 at 11:58 AM

Lookie, lookie, slave of HA

Schadenfreude on September 30, 2013 at 12:00 PM

If true, the point is that Harry Reid wants the shutdown.

Who’s the bully?

Resist We Much on September 30, 2013 at 10:30 AM

It is true. O’Reilly was a guest on Faux. He said that the people of NV need to tie Harry to a tree, not harm him, just get him out of the senate so business c/b done.

I’d go by with water…but would just show it to him.

Schadenfreude on September 30, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Count me as a small-business owner that favors a government shut down, but not for a limited time but F-O-R-E-V-E-R!

lonestarleeroy on September 30, 2013 at 1:19 PM

If the government shuts down, someone better remember to feed and water Big Mooch.

justltl on September 30, 2013 at 2:41 PM

How you figger? He sentenced boys younger than Danny to the gas chamber. Didn’t want to do it. Felt he owed it to them.

Lanceman on September 30, 2013 at 9:24 AM

Because he told self-made millionaire Al Czervik he would never get into Bushwood. Rats, and their allies in the other part of the bipartisan Party-In-Government, have been using government to protect the caste system for decades.

Steve Eggleston on September 30, 2013 at 3:32 PM

It might be quite interesting to see a 6 month closure or more. As it becomes obvious a department needs funding AND the nation needs the department we fund that department at least minimally. At the end of the six months everything still not funded never gets funded. We have our new governmental baseline.

If unfunded departments have ALL their regulations rescinded after the first three months, we might learn even more about what is expendable and what is really necessary.

Then we look to the departments left operating on the assumption, “Of course we need XXXX.” Then we overhaul those by micro-appropriations.

The House has the power of the purse. Pull the purse strings shut. Use that power don’t grovel to communists about it.

{^_^}

herself on October 1, 2013 at 7:06 PM