Mitch McConnell offers Plan C: How about funding the government for one week while we continue negotiating?

posted at 2:41 pm on September 30, 2013 by Allahpundit

As expected, in the past hour Reid and the Senate Democrats killed the House’s Plan B bill calling for a one-year delay in ObamaCare. And so, inevitably, the one-week stopgap option appears.

Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell is floating a one-week government funding bill that would give both parties time to manever. The Kentucky Republican gave Speaker John Boehner a heads up about the plan earlier this morning. McConnell is looking to give Boehner another option as the government heads towards a shutdown at midnight, sources close to the situation say. House leadership, meanwhile, had been chiefly discussing a plan to include a delay of the individual mandate with language relating to the Obamacare subsidy for lawmakers and congressional staff.

Centrist House Republican Charlie Dent also wants a clean CR in the name of avoiding a shutdown, but not as a stopgap. He’s ready to throw in the towel and accept the Senate’s bill and will make the case for doing so at this afternoon’s House GOP caucus meeting. That’s a nonstarter, though, and everyone knows it. Enter McConnell, hoping to punt for a week to buy Boehner time to mold a consensus option in the House. Surely Harry Reid will agree to that, right?

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid shot [down] the idea outright. Exiting the meeting of Democrats and asked if he was dead set against a one-week CR Reid said, “Yes.”

Senate Democrats instead have said they favor a 6-week CR that strips out the House language delaying Obamacare and repealing the medical device tax.

A clean one-week funding bill is worse than a shutdown for Reid since it moves this whole process even closer to the debt-ceiling deadline in mid-October. All that does is increase the GOP’s leverage. If Congress kicks the can for a week and then the government shuts down next Monday, House Republicans may decide to roll debt-ceiling negotiations into the frozen negotiations for funding the government and raise their demands accordingly. There may be no way to avoid hitting the ceiling at that point. In that case, Reid figures, he’ll teach the House a lesson now by letting them shut things down and face the political consequences. If Republicans start getting pounded in the polls, maybe that’ll make House conservatives (or, more importantly, the rest of the caucus) think twice about debt-ceiling brinksmanship. If they don’t get pounded, though, and both sides end up being blamed next week, that may embolden the GOP to stick to its ObamaCare demands on the debt ceiling. That’s Reid’s gamble in a nutshell — he wants this episode to be a lesson to his opponents, but the lesson that ends up being taught may be very different from the one he intends. What’s interesting is that he seems to think Boehner and McConnell might not fold in the name of avoiding default; if he did, then a one-week stopgap that pushes this process closer to the debt limit is just what he needs to increase pressure on them. I think he’s wrong — Boehner will break the Hastert Rule and raise the debt ceiling with Democratic help at the eleventh hour if need be, whatever that means for him personally — but Reid’s obviously taking the possibility seriously.

One other interesting question: Will Reid allow a vote on McConnell’s one-week bill, purely in the interest of dividing the GOP? Mitch the Knife would probably get a majority of Senate Republicans to back him; then the pressure would be on Boehner to either allow a vote in the House on a bill that’s supported by his colleagues in the other chamber or to rule it out and face even more media pressure on House recalcitrance. (That pressure is useful to Boehner, of course, in getting House conservatives to cave for the time being, which is why he undoubtedly welcomes McConnell’s gambit.) Precisely because Reid opposes the bill, Boehner could try to sell it to House conservatives as something that actually helps them: By postponing the shutdown for a week, he can say, we move this debate into the debt-ceiling debate and maximize our leverage. That probably won’t work, but it might be tonight’s last-gasp midnight option if all else fails. As it probably will.

Here’s Barbara Boxer proving that if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Exit question: Roll Call reports that…

Aides indicated that the House is expected to work late into the night — even early into the morning — to send the Senate yet another proposal that would amend the continuing resolution with some sort of GOP policy priority. Part of the calculus from House leaders seems to be a belief that whichever chamber holds the CR during a shutdown will hold the blame.

Er, is that likely? Doesn’t seem likely to me.


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Good People of Ky. Kick this bum to the curb.

Bmore on September 30, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Cheap suit folding as we speak….

dentarthurdent on September 30, 2013 at 2:45 PM

The Dems don’t want to negotiate and have said as much.

“I know, let’s play charades!” -Mitch McConnell

Akzed on September 30, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Because Obama and Reid refuse to negotiate.

Fenris on September 30, 2013 at 2:47 PM

Thereby proving he’s no more qualified for his position than Ashley Judd.

vityas on September 30, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Throw this frog of a man out in 2014. He makes me sicker than looking at mortician Reid.

Schadenfreude on September 30, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Let’s not drag this out. Either let the government shut down, or go ahead and capitulate. The Democrats aren’t going to change their position – at best, they may throw the GOP a bone to give the illusion of compromise. But, in the end, the options are shut down or capitulation. Let’s just get on with it.

besser tot als rot on September 30, 2013 at 2:48 PM

“The Chair recognizes the folding flapjack from Kentucky…”

de rigueur on September 30, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Fearless Leadership

Jeddite on September 30, 2013 at 2:48 PM

McConnell blinks….

…what a surprise.

Do we really think that, in the time since FY2013 started on October 1, 2012, one more week of ‘talks’ with a President who refuses to talk or compromise, with a Senate Majority Leader who refuses to talk or compromise, and Democrats hopping from leg to leg in excitement over the political ‘advantage’ they will gain from a government shutdown, will actually change the dynamics in place?

Even though the folding deck chairs on the Titanic had more durability and resiliency than the GOP Senate leadership, moving them around for another week will not accomplish much.

Athos on September 30, 2013 at 2:48 PM

I will not comply because I am a free citizen of the United States, not a subject of its government. I consider non-compliance with this monstrosity and the tens of thousands of pages of regulations that are to be enforced by an unelected bureaucracy, and that have left a gigantic carbon footprint on our environment and the United States Constitution, a duty.

Non-compliance is my executive order, and that order reads in part that I do not recognize any government’s claim on my action or inaction in the marketplace, nor upon any personal information I am unwilling to divulge.


Learn this by heart and follow it, if you’re still free.

If not, livelikeaslave, forever.

Schadenfreude on September 30, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Why the fear of a shutdown? Because when people realize that there is life outside of the govt teet, Congress-leeches have no purpose.

nobar on September 30, 2013 at 2:49 PM

The RINOs are currently looking for new and exciting ways to screw this up.

Present the one-week extension. Reid will reject it. At that point, the House has compromised THREE TIMES, and the Senate (and by extension, Obama) will have simply stamped their feet and said NO NO NO NO. Then buy commercials that say the same and run them every hour on every major outlet. Forget what the major media says. Tell your own story.

Darin on September 30, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Shut it down. Nothing much will be missed, just like obama’s sequester.

Schadenfreude on September 30, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Use a card the unions use during negotiations:

Close your notepad and walk out of the room.

“See ya on the picket line……”

BobMbx on September 30, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Let it shut down all the way to the debt ceiling. Repeal this thing or go bankrupt. We’re going to go bankrupt anyways, why not get it over with?

El_Terrible on September 30, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Hey Mitch, how about we don’t? Giving them a week of continued wasteful spending is not something I’m much interested in. Moreover, they are not negotiating! Give them an extra week to negotiate when they are not negotiating? What does that get you? Absolutely nothing.

There is no reason to believe that the Democrats will give an inch without having first suffered some pretty serious consequences. I support shutting down the government until they give, and I don’t particularly care how long that takes.

Mdirmeie on September 30, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Let’s not drag this out. Either let the government shut down, or go ahead and capitulate. The Democrats aren’t going to change their position – at best, they may throw the GOP a bone to give the illusion of compromise. But, in the end, the options are shut down or capitulation. Let’s just get on with it.

besser tot als rot on September 30, 2013 at 2:48 PM

The Dems would cave if the GOP ever forced them to. But the problem is the Republican leadership and a large segment of the caucus appear to support the Obama/Reid agenda. Which is why we always see the same song and dance before they inevitably capitulate. I think the one element they weren’t prepared for this time was Ted Cruz publicly calling them out on their BS.

Doughboy on September 30, 2013 at 2:52 PM

If Obama wants to be the driver at the wheel when the US goes into default, let him.

El_Terrible on September 30, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Calm down people, it was just an idea.

But if there were actual negotiations, it would be a good idea. But since they’re aren’t, no. Send the CR back with 1 year mandate delay, Vitter amendment, and med device tax. After that, let the cards fall where they may.

Zaggs on September 30, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Well, look who blinked – surprise, surprise.

‘negotiating’?

Mitch, you keep using that word – I don’t think it means what you think it means.

the word you’re using is really ‘capitulating’.

Midas on September 30, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Screw McConnell and the other RINO’s…..

Shut it down.

It will hurt Democrats more than Republicans.

Most federal workers are dems anyway.

Let them feel the pain the rest of the country is going though.

redguy on September 30, 2013 at 2:54 PM

NO! D*mnit, NO!

That would be giving in to the status quo and throwing away whatever minor leverage the conservative side might have.

Kevin K. on September 30, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Abort Obamacare.

El_Terrible on September 30, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Go for the specific basics. Fund the military.

TerryW on September 30, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Use a card the unions use during negotiations:

Close your notepad and walk out of the room.

“See ya on the picket line……”

BobMbx on September 30, 2013 at 2:51 PM

And, unlike the rest of us, the unions will get their exception eventually.

Fenris on September 30, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Mitch, go have knowledge with yourself.

Mr. Arrogant on September 30, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Cheap suit folding as we speak….

dentarthurdent on September 30, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Folding like a cheap flapjack.

davidk on September 30, 2013 at 2:56 PM

How about the Senate pass a Budget like in the Pre-Obama days and you would not be going through this CR mess?

You had 2 years to take care of this and you actually believe one week will do the trick. Starting tomorrow, stop paying anyone in Congress and the White House and watch how fast they come up with a deal.

sh221b on September 30, 2013 at 2:57 PM

Learn this by heart and follow it, if you’re still free.

If not, livelikeaslave, forever.

Schadenfreude on September 30, 2013 at 2:49 PM

http://twitpic.com/bw9in6

davidk on September 30, 2013 at 2:58 PM

The House GOP has arranged themselves into a circular firing squad and is threatening to pull the trigger. Reid says go ahead. Pointless.

ronval912 on September 30, 2013 at 2:58 PM

wow…if this was a poker game…McConnell just f’d it up

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 30, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Go back to the original CR that defunds marxist care. Send it over as take it or leave it. Then let it shutdown.

bgibbs1000 on September 30, 2013 at 3:00 PM

The dems/lsm have their talking points
Extortionists
Terrorists
Hostages
Blame the gop using skewed polls

cmsinaz on September 30, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Go for the specific basics. Fund the military.

TerryW on September 30, 2013 at 2:54 PM

House sent over a separate bill funding the military. No reporting on what Reid intends to do with that. No mention of that bill at all…

The House voted early Sunday morning to pass two amendments to the continuing resolution and an additional bill that would continue to pay for military personnel in the event of a government shut down. The separate military pay bill passed 423-0.

de rigueur on September 30, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Hey, Mitch. getaclue:

Emergent Anti-Obamacare Senate Candidate Breaks Fundraising Record in Nebraska

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/30/ben-sasse-nebraska-obamacare

davidk on September 30, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Yep, McConnell rides to the Democrats rescue again.

Isn’t it surprising that the only time McConnell comes out of his hiding place, it is to propose some dumb idea that only goes to help the Democrats?

After he whipped his pathetic Senate lot to vote against Ted Cruz/Mike Lee’s fight against cloture, he now comes out to “save the day”?

Shut the Government down and watch these Govt. junkies go into withdrawal symptoms.

TheRightMan on September 30, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Drop dead Mitch… We all know you are going to cave just like the rest of the leadership.
All you need is the lubricant so bamster can have his way with you.
You slime that call yourselves leaders would have done great during world war 2.
You would have given up all of Europe to Hitler and all of Asia to the Japanese so long as you didn’t get any bad press out of it.

This is why people don’t respect you anymore, you have NO principles,NONE

ouldbollix on September 30, 2013 at 3:01 PM

+1 red guy

Lsm is already blaming the gop….don’t care anymore

cmsinaz on September 30, 2013 at 3:02 PM

The House GOP has arranged themselves into a circular firing squad and is threatening to pull the trigger. Reid says go ahead. Pointless.

ronval912 on September 30, 2013 at 2:58 PM

Concern noted, moby.

davidk on September 30, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Costa on Twitter now with sources saying that the one week option doesn’t appear as if it will come to the floor tonight.

https://twitter.com/robertcostaNRO/status/384753824004444161
https://twitter.com/robertcostaNRO/status/384754041915314176

It appears as if the next move is another delay CR similar to the one the Senate just rejected. Fine by me. Let the House be seen passing another five of those at let the Senate be seen voting down every last one. Just make sure the message gets past the leftist propaganda that is the press filter.

Gingotts on September 30, 2013 at 3:03 PM

Mitch McConnell offers Plan C: How about funding the government for one week while we continue negotiating?

How about offering up 1 day…or 6 hours…or 30 mins.

Looks like the door is open on the clown car.
Who pops out next?

verbaluce on September 30, 2013 at 3:03 PM

Good to know that we can always count on the Vichy Republicans.

kingsjester on September 30, 2013 at 3:04 PM

Note to Senator McConnell – your opposite number, the Senate Majority Leader has already demonstrated his appreciation for your floating out the latest GOP Senate capitulation idea by saying that he will oppose a one week extension to permit ‘more talks’.

Dingy Harry wants a government shutdown. He’s convinced that it will give the Democrats the political boost they need to retain control of the Senate and recapture control of the House in November 2014. That is his entire focus – regaining the super-majority they held January 2009 – December 2010 in order to ‘fundamentally change an unfair and unjust system in an unfair and unjust country’.

He will not talk. He will not negotiate. He will not compromise. He knows the VichyRepublican caucus will surrender to his extortion because they have done so for the past 4 years.

Athos on September 30, 2013 at 3:04 PM

Gosh, have you ever seen a larger group of little girls? I am about to register Democrat. Those guys at least have *alls when they are busy *crewing the American People.

wsucoug on September 30, 2013 at 3:04 PM

The 96 numbers as to how the shutdown did not hurt republicans:

We gained two seats in the senate and kept control.
We lost 6 seats in the house and kept control.
Clinton still didn’t break 44%.

This was done with a most unspectacular presidential candidate.

From the results, I don’t see the reason to be so scared.

Also, Obama is no Clinton. Terrible economy now, budget deficits in the trillions. Record poverty, record food stamps. Obama just got his ass whipped on the international stage.

Shut. It. Down.

jukin3 on September 30, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Just cave like u always do

mrscullen on September 30, 2013 at 3:05 PM

Oh boy, more kick the can. These bums need to be fired. I’ve never seen a better argument for term limits.

sadatoni on September 30, 2013 at 3:08 PM

Part of the calculus from House leaders seems to be a belief that whichever chamber holds the CR during a shutdown will hold the blame.

HRs should flood the zone…send over a bunch of CRs and let Senate Democrats be the ones who aren’t open to compromise.

monalisa on September 30, 2013 at 3:09 PM

What part of “we refuse to negotiate” to Boehner and McConnell not get?

Boehner just needs to say he has already passed a CR. If Reid refused to vote on it or negotiate with the House, well…tough sh&t. The ball is in Reid’s court. A clear NR is a non-starter, period. He can pass what the House send him, and the government shuts down until he does.

DRayRaven on September 30, 2013 at 3:11 PM

NO!

annoyinglittletwerp on September 30, 2013 at 3:14 PM

http://twitpic.com/bw9in6

davidk on September 30, 2013 at 2:58 PM

Indeed…or be like all the others.

Schadenfreude on September 30, 2013 at 3:16 PM

…From the results, I don’t see the reason to be so scared…

jukin3 on September 30, 2013 at 3:05 PM

They’re not scared, they’re lefties in Republican clothing.

Fenris on September 30, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Plan C for Cave

bgibbs1000 on September 30, 2013 at 3:18 PM

What is amazing is there are still people on our side who think we can “win” this and “defund” ObamaCare. Not gonna happen, period. The most we can “win” is the one-year delay, which is a loss since it gives Obama another year to fix his disaster and puts the implementation past the midterms, saving some Democrats.

Better to let it go forward and blow up in Obama’s face with no Republican fingerprints at all. But why think critically when we can just follow that nice Mr. Cruz over the cliff, eh?

I think he’s wrong — Boehner will break the Hastert Rule and raise the debt ceiling with Democratic help at the eleventh hour if need be, whatever that means for him personally

Bold prediction! Is it based on anything at all? Or just throwing more red meat out there?

Adjoran on September 30, 2013 at 3:19 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Mitch: “Guuuuuys, my buddy Harry is mad at me. Please help….Pretty Pretty Pretty Please”

LordMaximus on September 30, 2013 at 3:19 PM

Cave Dwellers

portlandon on September 30, 2013 at 3:20 PM

Dingy Harry Reid says, ‘I refuse to negotiate over, and the Senate will not pass any CR that isn’t completely clean and funds the government at the current levels.’

Then he says, ‘If the government shuts down, it’s because the Republicans in the House refuse to give me exactly what I want the way I want it.’

…and the press agrees with Dingy Harry – it’s all the GOP’s fault because Harry only wants his way or the highway.

How can the GOP Congressional leadership be so spineless as to not only believe this posturing by Dingy Harry, but be so willing to capitulate to it.

The President, Dingy Harry, Nancy Pelosi, pretty much every elected Democrat and talking head Democrat, as well as the vast majority of the mainstream media told us that a massive disaster would take place if the sequester (that Obama wanted) took effect.

What happened re the sequester?

Not much despite the Administration trying to make it as painful as possible to the American people.

I suspect a shutdown of the federal government will have a similar effect.

Athos on September 30, 2013 at 3:21 PM

Good

With just hours to go until the government shuts down, House Republicans will try to pass a bill that would delay the mandate that individuals buy health insurance and would cancel health-insurance subsidies for members of Congress and staff, the president and administration appointees, according to multiple sources.

Schadenfreude on September 30, 2013 at 3:21 PM

Mitch, now if you’re going to negotiate, you start demanding more. In the words of Darth Vader “Pray I don’t alter it any further”

Iblis on September 30, 2013 at 3:22 PM

At this point, Boehner, simply tell Reid and Obama to f*ck themselves, you’re giving the House the next month off.

The Democrats are decidedly unserious and going to stamp their tiny feet until they get exactly and nothing less than what they want – simply tell them to f*ck off.

Midas on September 30, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Rasmussen reports just released a poll showing dens at a months long high in the generic ballot. The crisis is hurting republicans most. Awesome.

sheikh of thornton on September 30, 2013 at 3:24 PM

And for millionth or so time, hitting the debt ceiling is NOT “default” and should not be referred to as such.

All failure to raise the debt ceiling means is no more new borrowing until we pay off some other bonds. But federal revenues are estimated at over $2.7 trillion this year, Treasury estimates interest payments for the fiscal year at just under $400 billion. As long as we pay that, we don’t default.

There will be some other things we can’t pay. Perhaps we could cut some of the useless “green” subsidies paid to Obama cronies, or cut back on the free ObamaPhones, or maybe have a few less parties with Jay-Z and the gang eating wagyu steak on the taxpayer dime.

Adjoran on September 30, 2013 at 3:25 PM

What is amazing is there are still people on our side who think we can “win” this and “defund” ObamaCare. Not gonna happen, period. The most we can “win” is the one-year delay, which is a loss since it gives Obama another year to fix his disaster and puts the implementation past the midterms, saving some Democrats.

Adjoran on September 30, 2013 at 3:19 PM

Gee… I wonder why you seem 100% certain that Democrats will NOT give in to the attempts to defund Obamacare.

Maybe because congressional Democrats stick to what they say… in other words, they have a bigger set of cojones?

You think if the Dems only held the House and they were faced with a Republican solely-passed law they didn’t like, they would hesitate to defund? If in doubt, go ask what happened to the border fence that should have been built by now.

Now just imagine for one second that congressional Republicans were a lot more like Ted Cruz/Rand Paul/Mike Lee, you think Obama and the Dems would still be playing hard ball? I bet they would be begging to negotiate.

Go figure…

TheRightMan on September 30, 2013 at 3:26 PM

I should add the interest on our debt doesn’t come due all at once, either. Through January, $150 billion will be due and payable. So maybe we can have Beyonce shake her booty once or twice, even!

Adjoran on September 30, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Whatever happened to the clean CR for the DoD?

catmman on September 30, 2013 at 3:27 PM

HRs should flood the zone…send over a bunch of CRs and let Senate Democrats be the ones who aren’t open to compromise.
monalisa on September 30, 2013 at 3:09 PM

This is already the case.

Midas on September 30, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Boxer is a twit.

Deafdog on September 30, 2013 at 3:29 PM

The DNC is nearly broke.

Good.

It’s already bankrupt in every other way.

Resist We Much on September 30, 2013 at 3:29 PM

TheRightMan on September 30, 2013 at 3:26 PM

If you think Senate Democrats will give up, I submit that is fantasy.

BUT suppose they do, suppose enough defect to join Republicans AND Reid allows that to come to a vote (as if). Obama vetoes it. Now you need 67 votes in the Senate AND 290 in the House to override.

Get it now?

Adjoran on September 30, 2013 at 3:30 PM

What is amazing is there are still people on our side who think we can “win” this and “defund” ObamaCare. Not gonna happen, period. The most we can “win” is the one-year delay, which is a loss since it gives Obama another year to fix his disaster and puts the implementation past the midterms, saving some Democrats

I think he’s wrong — Boehner will break the Hastert Rule and raise the debt ceiling with Democratic help at the eleventh hour if need be, whatever that means for him personally

Bold prediction! Is it based on anything at all? Or just throwing more red meat out there?

Adjoran on September 30, 2013 at 3:19 PM

With your way of thinking no we can’t win.

Shut it down. The longer the better. The more the left whines the better.

bgibbs1000 on September 30, 2013 at 3:34 PM

I know everyone here hates McConnell because… RINO!11! or something.

But, him floating this idea actually helps our side in the PR war (which is all the shutdown really is).

It forces Reid and the Dems to look intractable because they have to reject the proposal.

So…. the Dems are refusing to fund the government, even for an extra week.

We can roll with that.

RightWay79 on September 30, 2013 at 3:35 PM

With run away government spending. A debt ceiling that is out of control and a do nothing government What is the down side of a shut down? What about those 18,000 new IRS agent to handle the ACA that will not be needed for a year if at all. That alone is something like $1,800,000,000.00/year savings right there. Or are they just going to keep them on the payroll doing nothing? Shut them down and teach them a lesson that they are truly immaterial.

jpcpt03 on September 30, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Sounds okay to me. They can do weekly CR’s with negotiations all the way to November 4, 2014 for all I care.

Dusty on September 30, 2013 at 3:43 PM

The republicans should tell the democrats off the record, If the government shuts down, it will stay shut down for a long, long, time. And If you want to start it back up, The White House needs to be re-opened for the American people. Screw the left, They need government more than the right. Shut it down!

birdwatcher on September 30, 2013 at 3:44 PM

How ’bout go to Hell, McConnell, you Obamacare funding Democrat!

FloatingRock on September 30, 2013 at 3:51 PM

If you think Senate Democrats will give up, I submit that is fantasy.

Get it now?

Adjoran on September 30, 2013 at 3:30 PM

YOU do not appear to get the import of my reply to your earlier post.

But you reiterate the very same point here… being that Democrats are MORE willing to stand on principle than the vichy congressional Republicans.

Harry Reid did not waste one minute in tabling the proposal sent to him from the House… and yet it is Republicans that are labelled by the media as uncompromising. My foot!

I sure wish congressional Republicans were half as uncompromising as their Democrat counterparts. You know what that would mean to Obamacare, amnesty, and all of Obama’s left-wing fantasies? Dead, dead, dead!!!

TheRightMan on September 30, 2013 at 3:53 PM

I’m surprised that McCain and Miss Lindsey haven’t organized some Gang of ___ over this yet to hog all the limelight.

Akzed on September 30, 2013 at 3:54 PM

IMO, Obama not getting what he wants is like Putin putting his foot up King Barky’s backside. It is an embarrassment to him.

jukin3 on September 30, 2013 at 3:55 PM

Cave,cave,cave,cave

sandee on September 30, 2013 at 3:55 PM

Screw the left, They need government more than the right. Shut it down!

birdwatcher on September 30, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Right on,shut it down turn the light off and go home.We will do much better without the gubmint stealing our money and handing out to losers.

ouldbollix on September 30, 2013 at 3:58 PM

I’m surprised that McCain and Miss Lindsey haven’t organized some Gang of ___ over this yet to hog all the limelight.

Akzed on September 30, 2013 at 3:54 PM

They only organize their gangs to pass Democrat priorities.

In this case, Harry Reid hasn’t given them his consent to organize their gangs because he wants the Govt. to shut down.

TheRightMan on September 30, 2013 at 4:00 PM

That probably won’t work, but it might be tonight’s last-gasp midnight option if all else fails.

Doesn’t Obama play golf on courses that will be forced to close if the government “shuts down”?

There’s your negotiating ace ball in the hole right there.

MississippiMom on September 30, 2013 at 4:01 PM

posted at 2:41 pm on September 30, 2013 by Allahpundit

If Congress kicks the can for a week and then the government shuts down next Monday, House Republicans may decide to roll debt-ceiling negotiations into the frozen negotiations for funding the government and raise their demands accordingly. There may be no way to avoid hitting the ceiling at that point.

Allahpundit, we blew through the ceiling in mid-May. We’ve been running for 4 and a half months on “Extraordinary Measures” borrowing, which WILL BE MADE WHOLE as soon as the debt ceiling is raised. The Treasury has been borrowing for 4.5 months from places that aren’t considered part of the debt limit, but which are debt none the less.

Our true total national debt right now is between $17.2 and $17.3 Trillion, well above the “statuatory debt limit”.

ITguy on September 30, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Doesn’t Obama play golf on courses that will be forced to close if the government “shuts down”?

There’s your negotiating ace ball in the hole right there.

MississippiMom on September 30, 2013 at 4:01 PM

A golf course is essential to Obama’s ability to play golf. I don’t think our scofflaw in chief will be stopped by that.

Fenris on September 30, 2013 at 4:06 PM

The democratics smell blood in the water. When/if Republicans fold, the democratics will reject a clean CR. They will demand a CR with the Sequester removed.

slickwillie2001 on September 30, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Am I missing something here?….. What “negotiations” have been going on at all? So what difference would one more week make? Why isn’t the GOP out in front of America telling what’s really holding this up?

Sarge

AFSarge on September 30, 2013 at 5:02 PM

Negotiating? I wasn’t aware that there were any. Reid said he wasn’t going to negotiate and Obama said he wasn’t. Shut it down.

BetseyRoss on September 30, 2013 at 7:20 PM