CNN poll: Republicans will get more blame than Democrats in a shutdown, you know

posted at 12:01 pm on September 30, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Color me shocked, shocked by this finding from CNN’s latest poll on the possible shutdown.  Also, color me shocked by the rather strange questions in the poll itself:

If the federal government shuts down starting Tuesday because of a bitter partisan battle over the new health care law, more people say congressional Republicans rather than President Barack Obama would be responsible, according to a new national survey.

A CNN/ORC International poll released Monday morning, hours before funding for the government is scheduled to run out, also indicates that most Americans think Republicans in Congress are acting like spoiled children in this fiscal fight, with the public divided on whether the president is acting like a spoiled child or a responsible adult.

And six in 10 questioned in the survey say they want Congress to approve a budget agreement to avoid a government shutdown, and if it happens, most people say a shutdown would be a bad thing for the country.

“Spoiled children”? Yes, that’s actually a quote from the poll itself, which is asked about both Barack Obama and Republicans in Congress.  And actually, the results from the three questions where this is asked isn’t as bright-line bad for Republicans as CNN reports.  Barack Obama, for instance, only barely gets an edge as a “responsible adult” over “spoiled child” by 49/47, hardly an endorsement of his leadership.  Among independents, that drops to 39/53.  Republicans score worst in the comparison with a 25/69, but Democrats don’t do much better at 35/58, with independents scoring them 24/67, almost identical to the GOP’s 23/69.

A better look at the temperature of the electorate comes on a question about the object of the fight itself.  ObamaCare gets a 38/57 approval rating, and majorities in most demos oppose it.  That’s true of both men (60%) and women (55%), and especially independents (67%).  Every geographic region has a majority opposing ObamaCare on the eve of its enactment. Only 11% of the respondents oppose it for not being liberal enough, too.  The more Obama refuses to negotiate over this unpopular train wreck, the more he’s going to look like a spoiled child to everyone except Democrats.

Obama gets better marks on his overture to Iran. Over three-quarters of the respondents approve of direct diplomatic negotiations with Iran if it prevents Tehran from developing nuclear weapons, 76/21.  That’s a mighty big if, however.


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As a Dog Returns to His Vomit, so a Fool repeats his folly.

Murphy9 on September 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Bmore and then some

Schadenfreude on September 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM

So what.

vityas on September 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM

(Actually…just been dealing with a call from family about us just learning my newborn nephew has a congenital heart defect. Freaky sh*t. Back now.)

verbaluce on September 30, 2013 at 1:35 PM

May your nephew not suffer from the same brain rotting disease you apparently suffer from.

Not what I said or indicated.
Were did you learn to be so disingenuous in your arguing?
Oh…nevermind.

verbaluce on September 30, 2013 at 1:37 PM

You said Republicans preach default when it has always been the exclusive purview of Democrats to try and scare us with the idea of default. It is understandable to believe you don’t understand the difference when you say something so ill informed (more likely dishonest).

NotCoach on September 30, 2013 at 1:45 PM

(Actually…just been dealing with a call from family about us just learning my newborn nephew has a congenital heart defect. Freaky sh*t. Back now.)

verbaluce on September 30, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Prayers going up.

CurtZHP on September 30, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Repubs get blamed for everything. This time at least do something worthwhile to get blamed for.

melle1228 on September 30, 2013 at 1:51 PM

verbaluce on September 30, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Very sorry about your nephew and hope he gets the best treatment to be well.

On your tin comment, shove it. I don’t talk about things I don’t know about. You can make of my comments what you wish.

Petraeus is the other one they have by his you know what.

Schadenfreude on September 30, 2013 at 1:51 PM

I urge you to start friending / liking these Senators and Representatives that are Progressive republicans.

Find their page, and start commenting on their posts. Don’t worry, if they are posting something about a party to celebrate a waste water plant opening plenty of posters are laying into them on their votes to support Obamacare.

Lay into them, and remind them who they work for…….

Don’t give them a chance, keep pounding, just like Alinsky and his disciples on the Left have been doing to us for freaking decades.

Here are a couple of comments as a sample.

Redeem your cowardly self and vote to DEFUND! NO delay- and don’t let the door hit you on the way out. SHUT DOWN!
about an hour ago · Like

Quick Defund Obama care NOW. Stop siding with Harry Reid and do your duty for the people of Tennessee.
about an hour ago · Edited · Like · 1

Dear Senator ALEXANDER,

AMERICAN’S EXPECT YOU TO DO YOUR JOB AND NOT ONLY REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF AMERICAN TAXPAYERS WHO DO NOT WISH TO BE BURDENED WITH SOCIALIZED MEDICINE RUN BY GOVERNMENT, as you exempt yourselves, (DEFUND AND REPEAL IT!) BUT ENSURE OUR LOVED ONES HAVE THE FOOD/SUPPLIES AND PAYCHECKS THEY DESERVE FOR THE SERVICE AND SACRIFICES THEY MAKE FOR THEIR COUNTRY EVEN IF IT MEANS YOU FORFEIT YOURS!! HOW CAN OUR LOVED ONES DO THEIR BEST IN THEIR DUTIES IF THEY KNOW THEY FAMILIES ARE SUFFERING AT YOUR HANDS!

DEFUND AND REPEAL OBAMACARE AND FULLY FUND THE MILITARY AND ENSURE THEIR FAMILIES HAVE ALL THEY NEED!!! IT IS YOUR SWORN DUTY! PLEASE DO YOUR JOB!

Are you going to uphold and honor the Constitution?” Are you going to defund and abolish Obamacare?

Keep pounding…..

PappyD61 on September 30, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Progressive Republicans? That’s a new term on me.

S. Weasel on September 30, 2013 at 1:53 PM

1. We didn’t lose in 96. That is a myth of the left and the media.
2. Obama is no Clinton.
3. Reid runs the Senate.

Shut. It. Down.

See if anybody notices.

jukin3 on September 30, 2013 at 1:55 PM

So, this poll is highly questionable, but the others positing the same thing, and suggested by this very blog last week to be credible, are, well – credible – because… Obama, or something?

Has the calculus changed since last week? Why is HA carrying less establishment water today? Karl Rove send out a new talking points memo that has different marching orders than last week?

Midas on September 30, 2013 at 1:59 PM

CurtZHP on September 30, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Thanks.

Schadenfreude on September 30, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Thanks.

and Petraeous too?
Zowz.

verbaluce on September 30, 2013 at 2:00 PM

(Actually…just been dealing with a call from family about us just learning my newborn nephew has a congenital heart defect. Freaky sh*t. Back now.)

verbaluce on September 30, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Prayers for the little one;, hope all goes well, and he grows up to be happy, healthy, conservative, and smarter than his delusional leftist uncle.

Midas on September 30, 2013 at 2:02 PM

There is a reason for this: low. information. voter. And libs who never find fault with the Dems.

HiJack on September 30, 2013 at 2:15 PM

Progressive Republicans? That’s a new term on me.

S. Weasel on September 30, 2013 at 1:53 PM

Not really. You may know it by another name: McCain.

HiJack on September 30, 2013 at 2:17 PM

There is a reason for this: low. information. voter.

HiJack on September 30, 2013 at 2:15 PM

It’s not LIVs. It’s America-haters. People who longed to see America brought low. And they did it. It doesn’t matter how much information they have. They just hate America and anything American.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 30, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Just getting reports via Twitter that via party line vote in the Senate, the Senate has rejected the House funding measures that delay Obamacare implementation by 1 year and remove the medical device tax.

Rep Darrell Issa notes that the Obamacare is now slated to add $6.2 trillion to the national debt over the next 10 years…

Athos on September 30, 2013 at 2:26 PM

#BlameHarryReid

Athos on September 30, 2013 at 2:27 PM

(Actually…just been dealing with a call from family about us just learning my newborn nephew has a congenital heart defect. Freaky sh*t. Back now.)

verbaluce on September 30, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Sorry to hear that, prayers ascending. Unfortunately, under Obamacare taking the “blue pill” will be alot more efficient treatment for your nephew than surgery or anything else your family might want to do for him. I mean really, with such scarce govt healthcare resources, his potential quality of life just won’t be worth it. Sorry.

Next in line please?

/obamacare

Harbingeing on September 30, 2013 at 2:29 PM

I urge you to start friending / liking these Senators and Representatives that are Progressive republicans.

Find their page, and start commenting on their posts. Don’t worry, if they are posting something about a party to celebrate a waste water plant opening plenty of posters are laying into them on their votes to support Obamacare.

Lay into them, and remind them who they work for…….

Don’t give them a chance, keep pounding, just like Alinsky and his disciples on the Left have been doing to us for freaking decades.

Here are a couple of comments as a sample.

Redeem your cowardly self and vote to DEFUND! NO delay- and don’t let the door hit you on the way out. SHUT DOWN!
about an hour ago · Like

Quick Defund Obama care NOW. Stop siding with Harry Reid and do your duty for the people of Tennessee.
about an hour ago · Edited · Like · 1

Dear Senator ALEXANDER,

AMERICAN’S EXPECT YOU TO DO YOUR JOB AND NOT ONLY REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF AMERICAN TAXPAYERS WHO DO NOT WISH TO BE BURDENED WITH SOCIALIZED MEDICINE RUN BY GOVERNMENT, as you exempt yourselves, (DEFUND AND REPEAL IT!) BUT ENSURE OUR LOVED ONES HAVE THE FOOD/SUPPLIES AND PAYCHECKS THEY DESERVE FOR THE SERVICE AND SACRIFICES THEY MAKE FOR THEIR COUNTRY EVEN IF IT MEANS YOU FORFEIT YOURS!! HOW CAN OUR LOVED ONES DO THEIR BEST IN THEIR DUTIES IF THEY KNOW THEY FAMILIES ARE SUFFERING AT YOUR HANDS!

DEFUND AND REPEAL OBAMACARE AND FULLY FUND THE MILITARY AND ENSURE THEIR FAMILIES HAVE ALL THEY NEED!!! IT IS YOUR SWORN DUTY! PLEASE DO YOUR JOB!

Are you going to uphold and honor the Constitution?” Are you going to defund and abolish Obamacare?

Keep pounding…..

PappyD61 on September 30, 2013 at 1:52 PM

I’ve done this at least a couple dozen times already on both Alexander and Corker’s FB pages. Just ripped ‘em a newer one with each post–as have thousands, if not tens of thousands of Tennesseans and folks from other states alike.

Indescribably proud Tennessean (a Nashville native),
Joel D. Terry, aka DimeIV
Portrayer of President Andrew Jackson, Seventh President Of The United States Of America, on ESPN2′s Grammy Award-winning program, Let’s Get Cussin’ Drunk And Just Start Beatin’ The Hell Out Of Political Beta Males With Any Sizable, Hard Object We Can Find (You Know, Like A Concrete Masonry Unit, A 2×4, A Folding Chair, Or What Have You) In The Gravel Parking Lot Of Some Backwater Roadhouse With President Andrew Jackson, Seventh President Of The United States Of America

Dime IV on September 30, 2013 at 2:30 PM

That should be “Emmy Award-winning program”….

*sigh*

My kingdom for an edit function.

Dime IV on September 30, 2013 at 2:32 PM

Far left pinhead, Maryland Senator Barbara Mikulski castigating the House GOP Majority for their ‘my way or the highway’ approach by sending the Senate a bill that references / changes Obamacare…saying that the Harry Reid led Senate wants a clean bill in their own ‘my way or the highway’ line in the sand.

The arrogance and cluelessness of some of these people is astounding as they wear their double standards on their sleeves.

Now she’s whinging about which Federal employee’s are being deemed non-essential in some classic fearmongering…. referencing the 70% of NIH’s staff who will be furloughed because of the House’s ‘my way or the highway’ approach to governance.

Athos on September 30, 2013 at 2:33 PM

ObamaCare gets a 38/57 approval rating, and majorities in most demos oppose it. That’s true of both men (60%) and women (55%), and especially independents (67%). Every geographic region has a majority opposing ObamaCare on the eve of its enactment. Only 11% of the respondents oppose it for not being liberal enough, too. The more Obama refuses to negotiate over this unpopular train wreck, the more he’s going to look like a spoiled child to everyone except Democrats.

This is why i think the entire defund/delay fight is idiotic and destructive to the republican party. Obamacare is a mess and I believe the implementation is going to be even worse, but thats perfect for us. Obamacare passed with basically no republican support, if we let the law go into effect the democrats are going to be held responsible. Its Obamas largest legislative “achievement”, so let him own the damn thing, the more damage it does now the better positioned we are to take the senate. If we defund/delay the pain now we will save Obama from himself, if we let it go into effect and its the disaster we are all expecting we will control the senate and house for the remainder of his presidency.

snoopicus on September 30, 2013 at 2:36 PM

(Actually…just been dealing with a call from family about us just learning my newborn nephew has a congenital heart defect. Freaky sh*t. Back now.)

verbaluce on September 30, 2013 at 1:35 PM

You and I disagree on politics, but I will say the same thing
to you I said months ago to Urban Elitist regarding family
matters.

I hope the best possible scenario plays out for you and your
extended family.

Never underestimate the power of Prayer.

ToddPA on September 30, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Sorry to hear that, prayers ascending. Unfortunately, under Obamacare taking the “blue pill” will be alot more efficient treatment for your nephew than surgery or anything else your family might want to do for him. I mean really, with such scarce govt healthcare resources, his potential quality of life just won’t be worth it. Sorry.

Next in line please?

/obamacare

Harbingeing on September 30, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Thanks for the prayers.
(AKA ‘GOP healthcare plan’.)

Nephew is fortunate to have health insurance and access to good care. So he’s gonna be fine – and you won’t be paying for it.

verbaluce on September 30, 2013 at 2:38 PM

ToddPA on September 30, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Thanks.
Didn’t mean to over-share.
Appreciate the good words here.
Doesn’t surprise me…which might surprise some.

verbaluce on September 30, 2013 at 2:39 PM

1. We didn’t lose in 96. That is a myth of the left and the media.
2. Obama is no Clinton.
3. Reid runs the Senate.

Shut. It. Down.

See if anybody notices.

jukin3 on September 30, 2013 at 1:55 PM

We lost the PR battle and enabled Morris’ “triangulation” strategy that got Clinton a second term depite HillaryCare, tax hikes, foreign money, etc. Didn’t lose?

I suspect the honest contractors will notice when the government stops paying them for their work. Their employees will notice when they can’t make payroll. Social Security applicants will notice the office is closed and they can’t apply. Military families will notice when the direct deposits stop coming.

But, it’s not about them, of course. It’s about our lower intelligence voters feeling better, and promoting a demagogue.

Enjoy your red meat. Try not to choke on it.

Adjoran on September 30, 2013 at 2:45 PM

It’s not LIVs. It’s America-haters. People who longed to see America brought low. And they did it. It doesn’t matter how much information they have. They just hate America and anything American.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 30, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Well, there’s that, too, of course.

HiJack on September 30, 2013 at 2:48 PM

No. The Dems want to destroy this country.

TerryW on September 30, 2013 at 2:49 PM

We lost the PR battle and enabled Morris’ “triangulation” strategy that got Clinton a second term

Adjoran on September 30, 2013 at 2:45 PM

The objective is to implement policy, not personalities or parties.

Clinton basically signed the Republican campaign platform after the GOP “lost the PR battle.”

But keep fighting for the Republican Party, whatever that’s supposed to mean. After all, we made such strides in smaller government when we had a GOP president.

HitNRun on September 30, 2013 at 3:56 PM

The leftist democrats phrase the questions so that Rs take the hit.

Man, will some of these kids be in for a rude awakening. It’s the 2nd generation after the “me” generation – problem is, how do they get educated to understand they’ve been used and mentally abused by this democrat administration. Of course, decades in the making but nevertheless, youth has been used and abused.

MN J on September 30, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Thanks for the prayers.
(AKA ‘GOP healthcare plan’.)

 
For those special, somber times when “thanks” can’t relay adequate levels of partisan contempt and religious bigotry.
 

Nephew is fortunate to have health insurance and access to good care. So he’s gonna be fine – and you won’t be paying for it.
 
verbaluce on September 30, 2013 at 2:38 PM

 
Tell us again how you think insurance works, verbaluce.

rogerb on September 30, 2013 at 6:34 PM

The poll question asked, who is to blame for the shutdown-the Republicans or Obama.

A more accurate question would be:

Who is most to balme for the shutdown?

1. The Republicans for trying to cut spending

2. The Democrats for refusing to pass a budget

3. Obama for his absence of governance

4. The liberal media for lying to the American people about the costs and effects of Obamacare.

I would love to see the results if anyone could get it done.

talkingpoints on September 30, 2013 at 7:11 PM

I don’t know if delaying Obamacare is the right way to go. Pushing it back to 2015 could adversely affect the Republicans’ attempt to take back the Senate. The Dems could fall back on the “they’re fearmongering again cuz it’s not in force yet” defense and keep their edge; if we let Obamacare take effect, and everyone finds out how much of a turd it is and how bad it sullies the economy, that might turn a lot of people towards voting GOP.

TMOverbeck on October 1, 2013 at 9:15 AM

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