Boehner: If this shutdown standoff is an emergency, why didn’t the Senate meet yesterday?

posted at 12:41 pm on September 30, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via the Corner, something to keep you occupied while we wait for shutdown fee-vah to resume at 2 p.m. ET. That’s when Reid will — finally — call the Senate into session to reject the House’s new CR demanding a one-year delay to ObamaCare. Then it’ll be back to the House for Boehner’s Plan C, assuming there is one. There was chatter yesterday about maybe bringing up Vitter’s amendment to deny O-Care subsidies to members of Congress and staff, but House conservatives seem to think that’s weak tea. A one-year delay of the law seems to be as far as they’re willing to go, and Reid’s going to kill that off within the next few hours. Which means Boehner either (1) has to cut the conservatives loose and pass something with Democratic help, which might put his Speakership in trouble; (2) pass a clean “stopgap” funding resolution for a week or two to keep negotiations with the Democrats going, something conservatives also might not accept; or (3) bring on the shutdown and hope for the best, even if “the best” means the GOP taking a beating in public opinion until House conservatives relent.

There’s always a chance that Obama will cave and decide to agree to some sort of face-saving compromise. But maybe Obama’s not driving this train anymore:

When the president considered sitting down with the four congressional leaders in the White House ahead of the deadline to avert a government shutdown, Reid privately urged Obama to call off the meeting, according to several people familiar with the situation. Reid believed that it would amount to nothing more than a photo-op that would give the false impression that a serious negotiation was occurring, even warning he wouldn’t attend such a session. Obama scrapped it.

As Washington barrels forward to the first government shutdown in 17 years on Tuesday, the wily Reid has taken the lead role in pushing a hardball Democratic legislative strategy that can be summed up like this: Make the Republicans cave…

Reid’s strategy boils down to a few factors: If Democrats give even a few small concessions on a short-term stopgap funding measure, Republicans will demand even bigger concessions to avoid a debt default in mid-October. Since Republicans have been engulfed in an intraparty war over how far to take a shutdown threat, Reid and his top lieutenants are convinced that the political backlash from a shutdown would be devastating to the GOP, potentially costing them their majority in the House.

Actually, that raises possibility (4): Maybe Boehner can convince House conservatives to punt all of this to next month’s debt-ceiling showdown, when the GOP will have more leverage. Paul Ryan hinted at something like that this weekend, although Ted Cruz reportedly advised House conservatives to insist on concessions now, as part of funding the government. That may be a rare point of agreement between RINOs and “true conservatives”: Some RINOs might prefer brinksmanship now, even if it means a shutdown for awhile, to brinksmanship later with the threat of default hanging in the balance. The stakes will be way higher then and, the theory goes, if tea partiers get this “out of their system” now, they’ll be less likely to go to the mat again next month. I’m … not sure how that logic works, though. Unless Reid and Obama cave now and give up something important on ObamaCare, House conservatives will conclude that a government shutdown simply isn’t enough leverage and that they need to be twice as obstinate when it comes to the debt ceiling. The only thing that might convince them otherwise would be a sharp public backlash to a shutdown, but what constitutes “sharp”? And how long would the shutdown need to last to achieve sharpness? I think Boehner will bend and pass something with Democrats if this stretches more than 10 days or so. And then, with the debt ceiling on his plate, he may finally conclude that this job isn’t worth the trouble anymore and do it again.

By the way, the first casualty of the shutdown looks like to be Pandacam. Steel yourselves, my friends.


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If you cave on this – You. Are. Done. Shut the rabbit hole down.

HomeoftheBrave on September 30, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Wow, gotta give credit, where credit is due….
..nice little shot there Weepy.

ToddPA on September 30, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Ah, ’cause football was on. It’s the only “manly” thing the Democrats do for what little testosterone they have in their systems.

Cindy Munford on September 30, 2013 at 12:45 PM

The luciferian democrats have not passed a damn budget in 5 years. They are derelicts.

Murphy9 on September 30, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Political theater……and Boehner, Cantor, McCarthy, Paul Ryan and the rest of the gop leadership team are all BAD actors.

Anyone want to guess when the Weeper will go to his caucus with a poll and say we’ve got to act “in the interest of the country”?

PappyD61 on September 30, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Pandacam down? Treacher just got on board for the shut down.

Cindy Munford on September 30, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Either add device tax, Vitter and 1 year delay of the individual mandate or punt to next month, Cruz be damned.

Zaggs on September 30, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Besides……until the Associated Press tell me what to thinks I don’t know what to say.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/09/the-associated-press-goes-to-bat-for-the-democratic-party.php

The Associated Press Goes to Bat For the Democratic Party

Why do Republicans never seem to come out ahead politically when they go toe-to-toe with the Democrats? Part of the reason, at least, is that the press, to a greater extent than at any time in our history, is monolithically Democrat. The most important news organ is the Associated Press, whose articles appear in hundreds, or possibly thousands, of newspapers around the country. The AP pretends to be a neutral, just-the-facts information source, but it is nothing of the kind.

While there are some good reporters at the AP, the overwhelming majority function, as to issues that are politically controversial, as advocates for the Democratic Party.

PappyD61 on September 30, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Reid’s strategy boils down to a few factors: If Democrats give even a few small concessions on a short-term stopgap funding measure, Republicans will demand even bigger concessions to avoid a debt default in mid-October.

Dems don’t want the budget battles to linger into the debt ceiling discussions. They really don’t even if they are too stupid to realize it.

Maybe Boehner can convince House conservatives to punt all of this to next month’s debt-ceiling showdown, when the GOP will have more leverage.

Conservatives have heard this promise time and again. Boehner never follows through. NO! Delay Obamacare now.

By the way, the first casualty of the shutdown looks like to be Pandacam. Steel yourselves, my friends.

Yeah, who knew they had a live cameraman filming those nasty creatures.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Shouldn’t we check with Peter King to see what is the best approach..?

d1carter on September 30, 2013 at 12:50 PM

The real reason Reid was not there yesterday was because he
didn’t want to be around any Smelly Tourists.

ToddPA on September 30, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Do not let up. Keep the pressure. Burn the phone lines. Give money to every anti-Obamacare candidate you can, especially to Carr in TN and Bevin in KY.

beatcanvas on September 30, 2013 at 12:51 PM

The luciferian democrats have not passed a damn budget in 5 years. They are derelicts.

Murphy9 on September 30, 2013 at 12:45 PM

This is what I don’t understand. No budget in years, and no consequences for it. That tells me all I need to know about our government: lawless.

VibrioCocci on September 30, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Hey Scrumpy, you here?

Don’t get a Titan yet.

cozmo on September 30, 2013 at 12:51 PM

By the way, the first casualty of the shutdown looks like to be Pandacam. Steel yourselves, my friends.

And the Democrats say that Republicans are the hostage-takers in all this.

blammm on September 30, 2013 at 12:52 PM

But maybe Obama’s not driving this train anymore:

I don’t think he was ever driving the train.

davidk on September 30, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Sunday is the day for Cowboy Poetry

faraway on September 30, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Either add device tax, Vitter and 1 year delay of the individual mandate or punt to next month, Cruz be damned.

Zaggs on September 30, 2013 at 12:48 PM

The next bill out of the House should be even more demanding. Year’s delay for individual mandate, elimination of the medical device tax, pay for the military, and tax cuts. You don’t bargain with children. They balk and you just make things that more difficult for them.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Allah,

Thanks for bringing my attention to the Pandacam. I did not know the stakes were this high.

BoxHead1 on September 30, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Fight Now because it is over year until elections and no one will remember anything about this by then.

If we have learned anything it is the American people hate congress but they mostly reelect the incumbent. Most Republicans are from safe districts and states anyway. Now is the best time for a fight over the next three years.

William Eaton on September 30, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Those pandas are naked!!!

faraway on September 30, 2013 at 12:54 PM

The luciferian democrats have not passed a damn budget in 5 years. They are derelicts.

Murphy9 on September 30, 2013 at 12:45 PM

This is what I don’t understand. No budget in years, and no consequences for it. That tells me all I need to know about our government: lawless.

VibrioCocci on September 30, 2013 at 12:51 PM

If it comes to a shut-down, the stock answer to any question from the MSM should start and end with, “How serious are the dhimmicRATs since they haven’t passed a Constitutionally mandated budget for five years?”

davidk on September 30, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Meanwhile over at YAHOO NEWS…..

World holds breath as US government shutdown imminent.

Washington (AFP) – With a shutdown of the US government hours away, Republicans and Democrats blamed each other Monday for a stand-off that has left hundreds of thousands of government workers on the brink of being sent home.

Lawmakers in the bitterly divided Congress had until midnight to pass a stopgap budget measure, but there was no sign of a breakthrough.

President Barack Obama has warned a freeze in non-essential federal spending could have catastrophic effects on the shaky economic recovery, and cost thousands of jobs.

PappyD61 on September 30, 2013 at 12:55 PM

If the government shuts down, shouldn’t spending decrease? And if spending decreases, shouldn’t those Bush era deficits be reduced? And aren’t deficits bad for our children, their children, and their children and grandchildren? So if shutting down the government is good for the kids, who can be against it?

Strike Twice on September 30, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Don’t you all realize this government shutdown is the same kind of ‘shutdown’ that happens every weekend?

nazo311 on September 30, 2013 at 12:57 PM

If this shutdown standoff is an emergency, why didn’t the Senate meet yesterday?

Democrats: Because shut up, terrorist.

MSM: Right on, shut up terrorist!

forest on September 30, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Harry Reid hasn’t passed a budget in how long? Yet this is the Republicans fault. We really don’t know how to message.

ctmom on September 30, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Don’t you all realize this government shutdown is the same kind of ‘shutdown’ that happens every weekend?

nazo311 on September 30, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Not true! On weekends we get Pandacam!!!

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 1:02 PM

If this shutdown standoff is an emergency, why didn’t the Senate meet yesterday?

because you’re a muckin foron…

equanimous on September 30, 2013 at 1:03 PM

The only thing that might convince them otherwise would be a sharp public backlash to a shutdown, but what constitutes “sharp”?

The media (LSM) would not report any backlash if it was not against the GOP.

TerryW on September 30, 2013 at 1:05 PM

They’re reporting that the lazy stupid coward expects to talk to the Congressional leadership later on this afternoon. Presumably after Harry Reid takes the House Bill and publicly stomps on it on the Senate floor.

Given that Reid and Pelosi were out of town this weekend and the lazy stupid coward played broke the record for the number of rounds of golf a President has played in a given year……… If I were Boehner my first question would be to ask the bastard what he shot. Because unless the House GOP caves on Obamacare, the conversation is going nowhere.

Personally I’ll be really ticked off if we get the “next time” lecture after abandoning all demands on the CR.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Meanwhile over at YAHOO NEWS…..

World holds breath as US government shutdown imminent.

Washington (AFP) – With a shutdown of the US government hours away, Republicans and Democrats blamed each other Monday for a stand-off that has left hundreds of thousands of government workers on the brink of being sent home.

Lawmakers in the bitterly divided Congress had until midnight to pass a stopgap budget measure, but there was no sign of a breakthrough.

President Barack Obama has warned a freeze in non-essential federal spending could have catastrophic effects on the shaky economic recovery, and cost thousands of jobs.

PappyD61 on September 30, 2013 at 12:55 PM

The entire world? Oh my.

slickwillie2001 on September 30, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Democrats: Because shut up, terrorist.

MSM: Right on, shut up terrorist!

forest on September 30, 2013 at 1:01 PM

McCain, Cornyn, Coburn, et. al.: Yeah what they said!

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Meanwhile over at YAHOO NEWS…..

World holds breath as US government shutdown imminent.

Washington (AFP) – With a shutdown of the US government hours away, Republicans and Democrats blamed each other Monday for a stand-off that has left hundreds of thousands of government workers on the brink of being sent home.

Lawmakers in the bitterly divided Congress had until midnight to pass a stopgap budget measure, but there was no sign of a breakthrough.

President Barack Obama has warned a freeze in non-essential federal spending could have catastrophic effects on the shaky economic recovery, and cost thousands of jobs.

PappyD61 on September 30, 2013 at 12:55 PM

The entire world? Oh my.

slickwillie2001 on September 30, 2013 at 1:06 PM

It’s not like this country is exceptional, influencing world issues and stuff.

davidk on September 30, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Time to repeal the 17th Amendment!!

With all the state governments that went red, now is the time to reverse this never should have been ratified horrible horrible amendment.

LoganSix on September 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM

https://rally.stopwatching.us/

davidk on September 30, 2013 at 1:14 PM

SHUT IT DOWN!

GarandFan on September 30, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Be a free US American.

Don’t be a sheepleton.

Schadenfreude on September 30, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Actually, that raises possibility (4): Maybe Boehner can convince House conservatives to punt all of this to next month’s debt-ceiling showdown, when the GOP will have more leverage. Paul Ryan hinted at something like that this weekend, although Ted Cruz reportedly advised House conservatives to insist on concessions now, as part of funding the government.

If we punt now, that will knock out other spending reduction negotiations during the debt limit debate. Let’s get the Obamacare stuff now so we can get into debating other cuts then.

Dusty on September 30, 2013 at 1:15 PM

I will not comply because I am a free citizen of the United States, not a subject of its government. I consider non-compliance with this monstrosity and the tens of thousands of pages of regulations that are to be enforced by an unelected bureaucracy, and that have left a gigantic carbon footprint on our environment and the United States Constitution, a duty.

Non-compliance is my executive order
, and that order reads in part that I do not recognize any government’s claim on my action or inaction in the marketplace, nor upon any personal information I am unwilling to divulge.

Schadenfreude on September 30, 2013 at 1:16 PM

If we punt now, that will knock out other spending reduction negotiations during the debt limit debate. Let’s get the Obamacare stuff now so we can get into debating other cuts then.

Dusty on September 30, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Exactly make this about Obamacare. The debt ceiling debate has to be over cutting taxes.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 1:17 PM

It is a sad d@mn state of affairs when so called ‘leaders’ won’t do WHAT IS RIGHT, What is CORRECT, what is HONEST, for fear that they will be blamed.

And their supporters don’t want them to do what is RIGHT because they might be blamed.
Weasels ‘fear of blame’ is why this nation deserves to fail.

Did John Hancock scribble his name in tiny, illegible print on the Declaration of Independence, because he feared he might be blamed when the Redcoats came?

Did Thomas Paine refuse to publish his pamphlets because he might be blamed when the Redcoats came?

Did William d’Aubigny refuse to side with the peasants, against King John on the Magna Carta because he might lose his titles , his holdings, his life?

etc.
etc.
etc.

LegendHasIt on September 30, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Schadenfreude on September 30, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Boehner: If this shutdown standoff is an emergency, why didn’t the Senate meet yesterday?

Duh! Because McCarthy preemptively surrendered on Fox News Sunday. All the Senate has to do now is wait for you to fold and send up another bill that they’ll like better, and then another and another until Boehner’s losing strategy plays out and the dog and pony show is over.

FloatingRock on September 30, 2013 at 1:22 PM

You know what it’s deja vu all over again. I am certain I asked this same question last time we were here:

when the GOP will have more leverage.

tell me exactly how we have anymore leverage if we back down this time?

paulsur on September 30, 2013 at 1:22 PM

The entire world? Oh my.

I hope they all turn blue and suffocate./s

HomeoftheBrave on September 30, 2013 at 1:26 PM

The Senate is waiting for Boehner to negotiate with himself into a corner.

FloatingRock on September 30, 2013 at 1:26 PM

The GOP needs to go on an all out PR blitz to blame the Dems for this shut down. Sure, the media is a house organ of the Democrat Party, but they can make things messy enough to eventually force them to cave for once.

I’m sick and effing tired of the GOP bending over time after time because Obama and Reid are petulant children who never compromise on anything.

DRayRaven on September 30, 2013 at 1:28 PM

tell me exactly how we have anymore leverage if we back down this time?

paulsur on September 30, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Well because by backing down now the Dems will be our friends and have more respect for us next time, Duh!

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 1:36 PM

The Senate is waiting for Boehner to negotiate with himself into a corner.

FloatingRock on September 30, 2013 at 1:26 PM

Take the bill passed on Sunday morning. Add the Vitter amendment. and send it right back to Harry Reid and the Senate.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Jay Carney is also saying that Obama has not changed his plans to leave for Asia this weekend!

CoffeeLover on September 30, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Want to know a real emergency? Most of the American people are not aware that all of Congress and all of their staffs will have most of their health insurance subsidized by the federal government. That means they will be exempt from the horrors of Obamacare. The media will never expose this travesty. Hope the Republicans will figure out some way to inform the people about this nasty little secret. Ted Cruz can’t do everything for us.

mobydutch on September 30, 2013 at 1:43 PM

I’ve heard said that money talks and it must be true.

In fact, almost 90 percent of the $17.3 million contributed to McConnell political committees since 2009 is from donors living outside the state —

That’s nothing compared to Boehner’s take!!

House Speaker John Boehner’s re-election committee brought in more than $22 million in the 2012 election cycle, according to recent reports.

7 Pages of research here on the above:

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20130928/NEWS010605/309280074/Mitch-McConnell-campaign-millions-come-mostly-from-outside-Kentucky

bluefox on September 30, 2013 at 1:43 PM

The “shut down” will not shut anything down…

equanimous on September 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Jay Carney is also saying that Obama has not changed his plans to leave for Asia this weekend!

CoffeeLover on September 30, 2013 at 1:42 PM

I wish he’s take Reid with him, LOL

bluefox on September 30, 2013 at 1:46 PM

bluefox on September 30, 2013 at 1:46 PM

Yep and Pelosi just for giggles.

O only cares about golf, campaigning and trips/vacation!

CoffeeLover on September 30, 2013 at 1:47 PM

I would send two CRs to the Senate: One with Obamacare defunded and One with Obamacare fully funded with the Vitter amendment that extends to all federal employees and no exemptions.

If it’s the “law of the land” it has to apply to everyone equally.

monalisa on September 30, 2013 at 1:49 PM

#BlameHarryReid

Dingy Harry has made a real tactical and strategic error by not having the Senate in session yesterday or prior to 2pm ET today.

Not even the apparatchiks in the lamestream media are going to be able to spin this imagery.

What the Speaker and so many others are asking is a simple question that Dingy Harry can’t / will not answer.

Athos on September 30, 2013 at 1:49 PM

The “shut down” will not shut anything down…

equanimous on September 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM

For most people your comments are correct. Mail will still be delivered. Government checks will still go out. Embassies will remain open. Airports will remain operational.

We’ll get pictures of the school group who held bake sales for months to get the money to come to DC only to find all the landmarks closed. There will be much wailing over the closure of national parks. And, of course, no Pandacam from the National Zoo.

The real question is whether the shutdown lingers into the upcoming debt ceiling talks.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 1:49 PM

If this shutdown standoff is an emergency, why didn’t the Senate meet yesterday?

RACIST!!!

RandallinHerndon on September 30, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Dingy Harry has made a real tactical and strategic error by not having the Senate in session yesterday or prior to 2pm ET today.

Athos on September 30, 2013 at 1:49 PM

I think the real error was the complete lack of activity this weekend. The House signaled their bill early Saturday afternoon and Reid didn’t even make phone calls or otherwise work toward resolution.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 1:53 PM

Let’s just get a taste of just how bad a government shut-down will be. I mean the sequester has been hellacious — amirite?

Is it possible that we can live — well, almost indefinitely — without the Assistant Undersecretary to the Undersecretary of Interior for Keystone Pipeline Delay?

jdpaz on September 30, 2013 at 1:54 PM

(2) pass a clean “stopgap” funding resolution for a week or two to keep negotiations with the Democrats going, something conservatives also might not accept

Wait, why wouldn’t we accept that? Am I misunderstanding what you mean by “clean”?

If the “stopgap” funds the government without funding Obamacare, even for a single day, then that seems to be a victory. Not a complete one, and in fact a very small one, but it cedes no ground, and is therefore at least as good as a shutdown.

The goal of this whole exercise isn’t shutting down the government; the goal is to not fund Obamacare. It’s a passive goal – the longer they can hold out on funding, the better, right?

RINO in Name Only on September 30, 2013 at 1:55 PM

I would send two CRs to the Senate: One with Obamacare defunded and One with Obamacare fully funded with the Vitter amendment that extends to all federal employees and no exemptions.

If it’s the “law of the land” it has to apply to everyone equally.

monalisa on September 30, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Yeah. A lib would agree to implement obamacare.

davidk on September 30, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Very smart, Obama, go to Asia, and act like your butt is not knee deep in this crap at home. Besides, your expertise is in foreign affairs. Sarc, sarc, sarc!

mobydutch on September 30, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Ten hours to the shut down of Pandacam.

Harry Reid and the Senate finally start the workday. Lazy bastards.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 2:00 PM

paulsur on September 30, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Isn’t this the same stories we get every six months? I don’t understand why it’s not treated as “The Boy Who Cried Wolf”. Two things are clear, both the bureaucrats and the media in Washington are overpaid. They are just phoning it in.

Cindy Munford on September 30, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Senate is gaveling in now. Durbin is sitting behind the dias.

Reid moves to Table resolution from the House in effect killing House bill.

CoffeeLover on September 30, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Which means Boehner either (1) has to cut the conservatives loose and pass something with Democratic help, which might put his Speakership in trouble;

This is probably what will happen if the shutdown goes on for more than a few days. Boehner has two bad options here. The first is to cooperate with Cruz and see the shutdown through until the Democrats cave. This outcome will mean Boehner is effectively eclipsed by Cruz in terms of leadership in the party.

The other option is to ignore the Hastert Rule and pass a clean bill. Conservatives will call for his head, but will they be able to take it? I have my doubts. It will cause a nasty intraparty battle, but Boehner may prefer this to letting Cruz “win.”

Either way, he’s effectively in a trap of his own making. He had a chance to show leadership on this issue and failed miserably, siding with the Democrats against us as he always does.

Doomberg on September 30, 2013 at 2:04 PM

ABC News reporting that Senate Republicans floating the idea with House Republicans that we just fund stuff for another week for more talk time.

I’m sorry but there has been plenty of time for talk. The date for the end of the fiscal year isn’t a state secret (like Obama’s college transcripts or the video footage of Benghazi). Time’s up. No more talking and deal making.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Either way, he’s effectively in a trap of his own making. He had a chance to show leadership on this issue and failed miserably, siding with the Democrats against us as he always does.

Doomberg on September 30, 2013 at 2:04 PM

That’s because he would have passed a “clean” CR and promised the world that the GOP would be tough next time.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 2:08 PM

I would send two CRs to the Senate: One with Obamacare defunded and One with Obamacare fully funded with the Vitter amendment that extends to all federal employees and no exemptions.

If it’s the “law of the land” it has to apply to everyone equally.

monalisa on September 30, 2013 at 1:49 PM

The House should follow the Cruz/Lee plan and send up individual continuing resolutions to fund each agency of government, such as the one they already passed to fund the military. There is no winning strategy employing a comprehensive CR.

FloatingRock on September 30, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Well, hey – the Dems didn’t say it was an “emergency emergency” – like “rape rape” – so it must not really be all that bad….

dentarthurdent on September 30, 2013 at 2:14 PM

The Cruz/Lee plan is a winning strategy. Boehner doesn’t want to win, that is why he is intentionally fighting a losing strategy. I wouldn’t be surprised if, after he negotiates himself into a corner and losing, he and others of his ilk blame Ted Cruz, even though Boehner didn’t employ their strategy but his own losing one.

FloatingRock on September 30, 2013 at 2:18 PM

The entire world? Oh my.

slickwillie2001 on September 30, 2013 at 1:06 PM

It should be the entire universe. Obama is that big.

jukin3 on September 30, 2013 at 2:18 PM

…In fact I guarantee you the GOP establishment and their pundits will blame Cruz/Lee when Boehner’s losing strategy fails, according to the ruling class’ design.

FloatingRock on September 30, 2013 at 2:19 PM

…In fact I guarantee you the GOP establishment and their pundits will blame Cruz/Lee when Boehner’s losing strategy fails, according to the ruling class’ design.

FloatingRock on September 30, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Karl Rove already working on the blame narrative.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Karl Rove already working on the blame narrative.

Happy Nomad on September 30, 2013 at 2:20 PM

He’s getting out the extra-large white board for this one

RandallinHerndon on September 30, 2013 at 2:28 PM

…In fact I guarantee you the GOP establishment and their pundits will blame Cruz/Lee when Boehner’s losing strategy fails, according to the ruling class’ design.

FloatingRock on September 30, 2013 at 2:19 PM

That’s one reason I think Boehner hasn’t just passed something with the Democrats yet. He’ll wait first and let some pressure build before saying, with an appropriate long face, that he “just had no choice.” There will probably be commentary in the MSM lauding him for saving the Republican Party from being taken over by a “tiny minority of right wing extremist terrorists.”

Doomberg on September 30, 2013 at 2:28 PM

Dingy’s always been driving this train…right off the rails.

Steve Eggleston on September 30, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Ed – you are wrong on this one. Once the horses are out of the barn pressure on Boehner decreases the longer it goes and increases on Reid. This is pretty simple – 60% of the non DOD govt keeps right on running as I understand it – and tax receipts keep coming in. Most people will not see the govt shut down. They will see the country’s finances improve.

Once it starts – very little political pressure to stop it. Just internal DC pressure.

Zomcon JEM on September 30, 2013 at 3:51 PM

The real reason the Senate wasn’t in session yesterday – Dingy Harry was coaching the Redskins’ cornerbacks. After all, he is a shutdown master.

Steve Eggleston on September 30, 2013 at 3:52 PM

…maybe bringing up Vitter’s amendment to deny O-Care subsidies to members of Congress and staff…

I say do that and rescind all Obama-fiat delays (company etc) and Sebilius waivers to preferred companies. After all, “it’s the law”, right?

Let them defend their law and their crony exemptions when they refuse the CR. Make them justify why they have to put all their exemptions and arbitrary delays when everyone else has to deal with them.

batter on September 30, 2013 at 3:52 PM