Schultz: I think we can all agree that there’s an easy solution to unions’ little ObamaCare problem…

posted at 7:01 pm on September 28, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Since President Obama’s reelection last November, the disgruntlement from unions’ with their lot in the health care law (for which they originally and relentlessly lobbied) slowly snowballed into barely-contained outrage at the ways in which the law messes with certain multi-employer insurance plans and incentivizes employers to turn to more part-time work options. After summoning what political clout they could muster, the White House finally decided earlier this month to reject Big Labor’s plea for a special allowance in the form of individual subsidy eligibility (on top of the favorable tax treatment they already receive, ahem).

In solidarity with Big Labor, I’m sure, MSNBC host Ed Schultz professed his dismay over the administration’s decision on his radio show this week, wondering why on earth — in not so many words, mind you — the Obama administration can’t just unilaterally hand down a giant waiver or set up a special system or some kind of ObamaCare-exemption to alleviate the pickle in which they’ve found themselves. It would be so simple, right? Via Newsbusters:

SCHULTZ: Now this is the union thing. Listen to this –

BARRASSO: Also apologize to the union members who believed the president when he said if you like what you have you can keep it and your insurance rates will come down.

SCHULTZ (parroting Barrasso): Believed the president that you can keep it. You can keep it. And eventually their rates will come down. See, this is dealing with an agree-, the unions are a little, uh, toasty under the collar about Obamacare, not willing to throw the baby out with the bathwater. But they believe that what they negotiated for should not be affected at all, and I go along with that! That’s the private sector at work. That’s freedom. And I think that there’s an easy solution to this as I see it. All the administration has to do is say, OK, if you’re in organized labor in this country, you’ve got your own exchange. Go do your deal. I mean, that’s the best way to do it. It’s the absolute best way to do it. And right now the benefit, the negotiated benefit in many contracts for union workers in this country is so good, it puts them into an area where they may end up paying a little bit of tax on it. Well, that’s not good! But that’s fixable. That is very fixable.

As Ed Schultz spends half his days reminding us, ObamaCare is the most fantastic legislation of which a president has ever conceived and will inevitably result in high-quality and practically free health care for all; how it is the administration could have managed to make such an egregious, unfortunate error really is a mystery.


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Liberty for me, but not for thee.

John the Libertarian on September 28, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Well, Schultz does have a point. Congress could quite easily modify the law to give to the unions their own exchange. Of course, to do that Congress would have to destroy the current State-based exchange system.

Perhaps we could do this like IANA — anyone who can ante up a few billion bucks can start their own exchange, and then — they’ll have to offer products exactly like every other exchange….

Hmm. That one size fits all thing — it’s going to have to change too….

unclesmrgol on September 28, 2013 at 7:11 PM

they can have their own exchange. but under the law they have to let anyone use it.

gerrym51 on September 28, 2013 at 7:11 PM

In other words, “it sucks to be you.” – Shultz

dogsoldier on September 28, 2013 at 7:14 PM

That’s the thing with liberals — they are so convinced of their infallibility that it’s impossible for them to believe their schemes are inevitable failures. Logic eludes them, evidence of history is an alien concept. Liberals are so deluded they truly believe their failures are the result of not enough liberalism/socialism; the failures are the result of someone plotting to thwart and obstruct them. Liberals are simply deluded and self-deceived.

The only truly huge thing about Obamacare is that it’s clearly an abject failure before it’s even implemented. At least Johnson’s Great Society looked good on paper and might have actually worked to some degree. Obamacare, not so much and it’s already obvious.

Liam on September 28, 2013 at 7:16 PM

“SUCKERS!! L0LZ0R!!” – Shultz

dogsoldier on September 28, 2013 at 7:16 PM

All or nothing. No granting waivers or exemptions to anyone. If I’m subject to it then so should everyone else. Eff the unions and everyone that ran to HHS and promised money to Obama foe an exemption

jaywemm on September 28, 2013 at 7:17 PM

Ed Shultz – DNC echo chamber. No thought required. Which explains his inability to comprehend that maybe, just maybe, the $%&@ Democrats should have READ and UNDERSTOOD the law that they were in such a rush to pass.

GarandFan on September 28, 2013 at 7:18 PM

The only truly huge thing about Obamacare is that it’s clearly an abject failure before it’s even implemented. At least Johnson’s Great Society looked good on paper and might have actually worked to some degree. Obamacare, not so much and it’s already obvious.

Liam on September 28, 2013 at 7:16 PM

Liam, Detroit is the conclusion of that experiment. You’re right it sounded good, but it was always destined to failure.

All they did was create OPM addicts.

dogsoldier on September 28, 2013 at 7:19 PM

As Ed Schultz spends half his days reminding us, ObamaCare is the most fantastic legislation of which a president has ever conceived and will inevitably result in high-quality and practically free health care for all

And he spends the other half of his days in an adult care facility learning to tie his shoes. They don’t call him “Special Ed” because he is unique.

Happy Nomad on September 28, 2013 at 7:21 PM

All the administration has to do is say, OK, if you’re in organized labor in this country, you’ve got your own exchange.

LOL. Of course! Just have Emperor Obama issue his royal decree and it shall be done! Just like the emperor issued his royal decree to grant special huge taxpayer-funded subsidies to congress and their staffers, despite the fact that he had absolutely no authority under the law to do so.

Think Schultz is the one who gave Obama the U.S. Constitution toilet paper, so that he can wipe his ass with it every day?

AZCoyote on September 28, 2013 at 7:23 PM

As Ed Schultz spends half his days reminding us, ObamaCare is the most fantastic legislation of which a president has ever conceived and will inevitably result in high-quality and practically free health care for all; how it is the administration could have managed to make such an egregious, unfortunate error really is a mystery.

Erika Johnsen

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Yup, … we’re all mystified ….. we may never be able to puzzle this out.

Maybe if we all learned “Quantum Algebra”.

listens2glenn on September 28, 2013 at 7:25 PM

They pretty much can’t give many more waivers. The system is almost ready to collapse due to younger kids not going to buy insurance and the number of waivers that have already been approved. My prediction, everything is waived for one year to get the Dems past next years election cycle.

Johnnyreb on September 28, 2013 at 7:26 PM

All the administration has to do is say, OK, if you’re in organized labor in this country, you’ve got your own exchange. Go do your deal.

I’m guessing that Special Ed is as lazy and stupid as Obama. That the law defines what constitutes an exchange. If unions can be their own exchange, why couldn’t a large retailer declare that their self-funded healthcare plan is an exchange? Why couldn’t religious groups form an exchange? It is an absurd idea from the start.

Happy Nomad on September 28, 2013 at 7:26 PM

These scumbags aren’t even pretending to support the Republic anymore. Scratch a leftist find a totalitarian.

jawkneemusic on September 28, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Can someone please tell me how this effin thing is supposed to help Anyone??? Based on who this thing was aimed at, my husband and I should benefit from it, in reality, it does absolutely nothing for us.
In the past couple of years we’ve fallen on hard times (called Obamanomics) and are struggling. We make a little over $20k a year so we are not eligible for Medicaid. We are in our early 60′s so still can’t get Medicare. What with credit card bills etc, we can not afford health insurance and just pay out of pocket when we get sick which is rarely.
My husband smokes (and forget trying to get him to quit), I quit last year. So….the cheapest plan for us would cost at least $500 a month because of the smoking policy. Even if he didn’t smoke from what I have read, the deductible is about $6000 a year. How is that not just catastrophic insurance which they supposedly don’t want anyone to have anymore??? This helps no one and hurts all the other people whose insurance is sky rocketing. There is no point to this whole exercise, it is ridiculous.

BeachBum on September 28, 2013 at 7:32 PM

There should be no exceptions, no waivers, no nothing … if this is so great, Congress, the Executive Branch & the President should be lining up for the same “great” care the rest of us are going to experience.

BD57 on September 28, 2013 at 7:32 PM

I have my own health care exchange. It goes something like this:

lib: Obamacare is great!

me: Obamacare sucks!

There you have it.

HiJack on September 28, 2013 at 7:34 PM

Liam, Detroit is the conclusion of that experiment. You’re right it sounded good, but it was always destined to failure.

All they did was create OPM addicts.

dogsoldier on September 28, 2013 at 7:19 PM

My union Brother in Law was trying to defend Detroit the other day and said Detroit is screaming back and the car companies are doing fine and the City is not in financial trouble in any way and don’t believe what you hear on the news.

He is lifelong union and won’t step foot in Walmart because they are anti business thugs and hate their workers because they won’t let the unions in their shops. He got laid off 7 years ago and hasn’t had a union job since then and he still has these thoughts.

Johnnyreb on September 28, 2013 at 7:34 PM

Rush Limbaugh minus everything Rush Limbaugh knows.

fogw on September 28, 2013 at 7:34 PM

Obama has exempted corporations. Just who does Schultz think the unions work for? They get their health insurance through their employers. Obama, with the flick of a pen, threw the union contracts under the bus with regards to health insurance. Hahahahahshaha!

fight like a girl on September 28, 2013 at 7:39 PM

…I can’t believe Shultz and Sharpton are employed!

KOOLAID2 on September 28, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Look at what happened to UPS. All spouses and dependents were thrown off the plans. UPS is in the Teamsters.

fight like a girl on September 28, 2013 at 7:43 PM

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the phrase “if you like your plan, you can keep it” is a little hard to do when the requirements for specific items covered has changed.

in a vacumn (Obama’s noggin’), maybe. In the real world…..not so much.

can_con on September 28, 2013 at 7:45 PM

My union Brother in Law was trying to defend Detroit the other day and said Detroit is screaming back and the car companies are doing fine and the City is not in financial trouble in any way and don’t believe what you hear on the news.

Johnnyreb on September 28, 2013 at 7:34 PM

It would be too easy to simply call your B-I-L an idiot. These people have been brainwashed. When I was living in West MI, the Electrolux plant shut down. Some of the workers actually rejected state programs for job retraining because they couldn’t see themselves as anything but workers making refrigerators.

And, BTW, please point out to your BIL that Detroit is not screaming back. They under a financial manager, much of the city is abandoned, and they have a problem with packs of wild dogs.

Happy Nomad on September 28, 2013 at 7:45 PM

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canopfor on September 28, 2013 at 7:45 PM

…I can’t believe Shultz and Sharpton are employed!

KOOLAID2 on September 28, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Token white idiot and token black idiot. Besides, Reid, Pelosi, et al, is all the evidence we need for us to expect that anything stupid can happen in this world.

HiJack on September 28, 2013 at 7:45 PM

And, BTW, please point out to your BIL that Detroit is not screaming back. They under a financial manager, much of the city is abandoned, and they have a problem with packs of wild dogs.

Happy Nomad on September 28, 2013 at 7:45 PM

Both kinds: Those with four legs and teeth, and those with two legs, illegal guns, and long criminal records.

Liam on September 28, 2013 at 7:49 PM

The corrupt Marxists who comprise the Union leadership aren’t being hammered by the EpicClusterFarkNado – so this speaks volumes on the fact that their priority is on advancing progressive fascism as opposed to really helping their members…or the American people.

Even the efforts to ‘help the membership’ are little more than pushing the Cloward & Piven agenda to ‘crash the system’.

Athos on September 28, 2013 at 7:51 PM

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the phrase “if you like your plan, you can keep it” is a little hard to do when the requirements for specific items covered has changed.

can_con on September 28, 2013 at 7:45 PM

Racist! That’s the kind of thing Ted Cruz would bring up. ;0

You’re hitting on the real problem here. The left, from the lazy stupid coward on down, claims that Obamacare is awesome and shouldn’t be delayed in any way. They say this because of all they’ve invested in the lie not because it is true. All those waivers and exemptions are done in order to prop up the lie.

Those most hurt by Obamacare, the middle class, are not the reason why the lazy stupid coward and his party are upset. 2014 elections are coming up and the parasites who most benefit by Obamacare (until 2017 penalties kick in) get virtually free healthcare going into the next election. A delay would harsh that buzz.

Happy Nomad on September 28, 2013 at 7:52 PM

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canopfor on September 28, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Brilliant! Why didn’t we all think of that? Obama can just make up his own laws!

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canopfor on September 28, 2013 at 8:13 PM

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canopfor on September 28, 2013 at 8:25 PM

canopfor on September 28, 2013

…you’re a gem canopfor!

KOOLAID2 on September 28, 2013 at 8:42 PM

All the administration has to do is say, OK, if you’re in organized labor in this country, you’ve got your own exchange.

If it wasn’t for the mid-terms next year he just might have waivered them already. Since I havn’t heard Trumka complaining lately I assume Obama will give them their exemption after the elections.

banzaibob on September 28, 2013 at 8:50 PM

yes, unions have been awfully quiet these past few days…….

ctmom on September 28, 2013 at 10:58 PM

I hope the unions choke on this crap sandwich. If I have suffer, they need to bleed to death for supporting it in the first place.

Tater Salad on September 28, 2013 at 11:31 PM

Before TV this buffoon always talked about hunting and fishing on the radio. Now he only talks about fishing.

Do you think he actually gave up his guns for his liberal beliefs?

Heck no. No way.

I wonder if someone can fact check this.

Like any liberal he is just a liar or a dummy or both.

Bet he is even a member of the NRA!

Hypocrite!

Sherman1864 on September 29, 2013 at 12:04 AM

Liberty Pilfering for me, but not for thee.

John the Libertarian on September 28, 2013 at 7:04 PM

FIFY

Shy Guy on September 29, 2013 at 1:09 AM

This clown also has a radio show?

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 29, 2013 at 2:43 AM

Look, Schultz isn’t retarded, he isn’t stupid – well, not completely – he *gets* it.

He’s just doing what liberals do – what Obama does, what Congress does, etc. They *want* these rules for *YOU*, not for themselves, not for their friends, etc. They *know* going in that their ‘paradise’ isn’t going to do what they say it will, it’s simply going to get *them* more power over the proles.

There’s nothing inconsistent with Schultz’s behavior or comments here from this perspective.

Midas on September 29, 2013 at 9:15 AM

This clown also has a radio show?

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 29, 2013 at 2:43 AM

He honestly thinks he’s the lefts Rush Limbaugh.

smoothsailing on September 29, 2013 at 9:43 AM

Labor Dept. documents: MSNBC’s Ed Schultz on labor union payrolls since 2005

U.S. labor unions paid MSNBC “Ed Show” host Ed Schultz roughly $200,000 in 2011, and roughly $337,000 over the last seven years, according to Department of Labor documents.

Newsbusters first reported that the liberal TV talker received $190,000 from the Communications Workers of America for “representational activities” in 2011. CWA president Larry Cohen is a regular guest on Schultz’s radio program.

The International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers also paid Schultz $9,900 last year.

In 2010 his union salaries totaled a comparatively small $37,350. The American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME); the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW); and the Communications Workers of America (CWA) paid him $15,000, $14,850 and $7,500, respectively.

The unions classified the 2010 payments to Schultz as “union administration” expenses, according to Labor Department records.

Akzed on September 29, 2013 at 10:19 AM

Eddie ‘The Mouth That Roared’ Schultz is about as stupid as they come.
I wonder what Fat Eddie the Fool would think if a GOP POTUS excluded all of his campaign donors (see the extensive list of “waivers”) from compliance with this extra-Constitutional mess?
I Know. The uneducated ideologue would stroke out.
~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on September 29, 2013 at 10:25 AM

The depressing fact is that many of the law-makers that passed this bill are less intelligent and informed than Ed Schultz (when we all thought that was not possible). Low-information voters.

Ed, let me tell you the solution to the Union problem: offer jobs in the administration to the union management. That will take care of the problem, for surprisingly little money.

Evidently, the administration can hire journalists who might otherwise have been critical, so they can hire union leaders too. They can work together to sell Obamacare to the workers(since WH “messaging” of their policy has been a problem).

virgo on September 29, 2013 at 12:58 PM