Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on September 26, 2013 by Allahpundit

It’s showtime for Obamacare’s explainer-in-chief.

Armed with facts and figures, President Barack Obama will take the stage at Prince George’s (Md.) Community College on Thursday — five days before the uninsured can start signing up for benefits — and test his powers of persuasion.

The setup: Americans remain deeply ambivalent about the law, Republicans in Congress are still trying to rob it of legitimacy, and it could be a colossal failure if consumers don’t sign up.

So, there’s a lot riding on Obama’s closing pitch.

***

Five days before enrollment is set to begin for millions of uninsured Americans, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) said employers with 50 or fewer workers will not be able to sign their staff up for private insurance in federally operated exchanges until a month later, November 1, because of technical problems.

The White House also said a Spanish-language service for Latinos, who make up about one-third of the 47 million uninsured in the country, will also not be available until “sometime in October.”…

“Obama was literally praising Obamacare when another delay was announced,” tweeted Republican Rep. Lynn Westmoreland of Georgia.

***

Consumers may have to dig a little deeper into their wallets to pay for health care in the Obamacare insurance exchanges, according to a new analysis by Avalere Health.

The study of six states suggests that consumers could face steep cost-sharing requirements — like co-payments, co-insurance and deductibles — layered on top of their monthly premiums…

“Consumers will need to balance lower monthly premiums against the potential for unpredictable, expensive, out-of-pocket costs in plans with higher deductibles,” Caroline Pearson, vice president of Avalere Health, said in a statement. “Furthermore, there is a risk that patients could forgo needed care when faced with high upfront deductibles.”

***

This isn’t just partisan business. It’s personal. Our cancellation letter states that Anthem is “not going to be selling new individual PPO plans.” When we asked whether we could keep our children’s doctors, an agent for Anthem told my husband and me she didn’t know. The insurer has no details available yet on what exactly they’ll be offering. We either will be herded into the Obamacare federal health insurance exchange regime (launching October 1), a severely limited HMO plan, or presented with costlier alternatives from another insurer. If they even exist.

My family is not alone. Across the country, insurers are sending out Obamacare-induced health plan death notices to untold tens of thousands of other customers in the individual market. Twitter users are posting their Obamacare cancellation notices and accompanying rate increases:

Linda Deright posted her letter from Regency of Washington state: “63 percent jump, old policy of 15 yrs. cancelled.” Karen J. Dugan wrote: “Received same notice from Blue Shield CA for our small business. Driving into exchange and no info since online site is down.” Chris Birk wrote: “Got notice from BCBS that my current health plan is not ACA compliant. New plan 2x as costly for worse coverage.” Small-business owner Villi Wilson posted his letter from HMSA Blue Cross Blue Shield canceling his individual plan and added: “I thought Obama said if I like my health care plan I can keep my health care plan.”

***

If the ACA is, as conservatives believe, as unpleasant in potential effects as it is impossible to implement, conservatives should allow what Lincoln called “the silent artillery of time” to destroy it. Obama is one of those who mistake their good luck for genius. Having been wafted into high office by gusts of Republican failures, he became the first president to win a second term with reduced percentages of both the popular and electoral votes. Nevertheless, Obama remains mesmerized by himself. He has not noticed that many objects of his rhetorical support — the ACA, scores of Democratic candidates, his gun-control proposals, his plan to attack Syria — have not become popular.

The government should not be closed; the debt ceiling will be raised. Republicans should, however, take to heart the last words of H.L. Mencken’s summation of Theodore Roosevelt: “Well, one does what one can.” Republicans can give Democrats a ruinous opportunity to insist upon unpopular things. House Republicans can attach to the continuing resolution that funds the government, and then to the increase in the debt ceiling, two provisions: Preservation of the ACA requirement — lawlessly disregarded by the administration — that members of Congress and their staffs must experience the full enjoyment of the ACA without special, ameliorating subsidies. And a one-year delay of the ACA’s individual mandate.

By vetoing legislation because of these provisions, and by having his vetoes sustained by congressional Democrats, Obama will underscore Democrats’ devotion: Devotion to self-dealing by the political class, and to the principle that only powerful interests (businesses), not mere citizens, can delay the privilege of complying with the ACA.

***

As its Oct. 1 implementation date arrives, ObamaCare is the biggest bet that American liberalism has made in 80 years on its foundational beliefs. This thing called “ObamaCare” carries on its back all the justifications, hopes and dreams of the entitlement state. The chance is at hand to let its political underpinnings collapse, perhaps permanently.

If ObamaCare fails, or seriously falters, the entitlement state will suffer a historic loss of credibility with the American people. It will finally be vulnerable to challenge and fundamental change. But no mere congressional vote can achieve that. Only the American people can kill ObamaCare.

No matter what Sen. Ted Cruz and his allies do, ObamaCare won’t die. It would return another day in some other incarnation. The Democrats would argue, rightly, that the ideas inside ObamaCare weren’t defeated. What the Democrats would lose is a vote in Congress, nothing more…

The discrediting of the entitlement state begins next Tuesday. Let it happen.

***

2. Obamacare implodes

Scenario: Both because of the law’s complexity and administrative errors by the government, the rollout of Obamacare is the rockiest launch since Clint Eastwood’s 2012 GOP convention speech. With the president’s legacy in tatters, even Democrats start to wonder if the benefits of Obamacare were worth the political cost.

The Fine Print: Rather than prompting the Democrats to give up on health-care reform, the 2016 presidential contenders start talking about a single-payer plan like Medicare. And in political terms, it is hard to imagine the Republicans more enraged about Obamacare than they are already.

***

Our point is that when Washington legislates on a grand scale, it sets in motion a game whose long-run outcome nobody can predict.

ObamaCare, to be sure, was not reform—it was a piling on of subsidies that can only throw fuel on the fire of health-care inflation. Not even the usual mouthpieces pretend otherwise anymore…

It should be noted, finally, who is really rooting for the Affordable Care Act to be a train wreck: It’s people on the left, like L.A. Times columnist Michael Hiltzik, who anticipates that “glitches, loopholes and shortcomings” will lead to a single-payer system. It’s people like Sen. Harry Reid, whom Mr. Hiltzik quotes telling voters back in Nevada that ObamaCare is “far from having something that’s going to work forever.”

Our health-care wars still have a long way to run.

***

“Once it’s working really well, I guarantee you, they will not call it Obamacare,” Obama told a crowd in Largo, Md. Thursday. “Here is a prediction for you. A few years from now, when people are using this to get coverage, everybody is feeling good about the choices they’ve got, there are going to be a whole bunch of folks that will say, yeah, yeah, I always thought this provision was excellent. I voted for that thing. You watch. It will not be called Obamacare.”

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Via the Daily Rushbo.


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How do such pig writers draw salaries? Who is so stupid as to pay such latrine rats?

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2013 at 12:00 AM

Cry me a river

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2013 at 12:01 AM

Do any of you have access to this new article?

If so, pls. post excerpts. Thank you.

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2013 at 12:02 AM

For all you Rick Perry lovers.

Rick Perry employs Democrat talking point and declares that it’s nonsensical for some Republicans to be threatening to shut down the government over Obamacare funding:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/324501-perry-obamacare-defunding-effort-a-bit-nonsensical

bluegill on September 27, 2013 at 12:03 AM

Heh, this one

A Small President on the World Stage
At the U.N., leaders hope for a return of American greatness.

–Peggy Noonan

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2013 at 12:03 AM

A friend’s 20-something daughter has delayed surgery because she can’t raise the $3,000 she needs to pay for it. She can’t get insurance because of her pre-existing condition. Her family is grateful that she’ll be able to buy insurance under Obamacare.

The economics of the situation are interesting.

Let’s say that she qualified for all of the subsidies and her insurance would only cost her $50/month for the lowest priced plan. She’ll be paying $600/year for a $5,000 deductible and 60/40 copay. How does that pay for her $3,000 surgery? She’s better off skipping the insurance, trying to negotiate with the providers, and raising the funds elsewhere.

obladioblada on September 27, 2013 at 12:03 AM

bluegill on September 27, 2013 at 12:03 AM

Madison, they need to read Madison.

The House needs to send Harry the CR in pieces…let’s see what obama and Harry will defund.

Let the people know, you dummies in the House!

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2013 at 12:04 AM

Look, when the “Terry” Boppsey Twins of HotAir are both against Ted Cruz, you know he is doing something right.

bluegill on September 27, 2013 at 12:05 AM

bluegill on September 27, 2013 at 12:05 AM

Terrye is afflicted with middleitis and terryannonline is just…well, it’s the QotD, so she’s naive.

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2013 at 12:06 AM

Forty-nine percent of the public disapproves of Mr. Obama’s job performance, and 43 percent approves, matching his worst measures in two years, the poll shows. Only 30 percent of Americans believe he cares “a lot” about their needs and problems, a figure that has fallen steadily from early in his first term.

The 30% of the sheeplton dummies are the ones he’s hurt the most, right after the middle class.

Across the board — on foreign policy, including Syria and Iran; the economy; health care; and the federal budget deficit — more Americans disapprove than approve of the president’s performance.

But, lalalalalalalala…out shopping for x-mas…most dummies.

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2013 at 12:11 AM

A friend’s 20-something daughter has delayed surgery because she can’t raise the $3,000 she needs to pay for it. She can’t get insurance because of her pre-existing condition. Her family is grateful that she’ll be able to buy insurance under Obamacare.

The economics of the situation are interesting.

Let’s say that she qualified for all of the subsidies and her insurance would only cost her $50/month for the lowest priced plan. She’ll be paying $600/year for a $5,000 deductible and 60/40 copay. How does that pay for her $3,000 surgery? She’s better off skipping the insurance, trying to negotiate with the providers, and raising the funds elsewhere.

obladioblada on September 27, 2013 at 12:03 AM

Yep.

redguy on September 27, 2013 at 12:11 AM

For all you Rick Perry lovers.

Rick Perry employs Democrat talking point and declares that it’s nonsensical for some Republicans to be threatening to shut down the government over Obamacare funding:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/324501-perry-obamacare-defunding-effort-a-bit-nonsensical

bluegill on September 27, 2013 at 12:03 AM

Sounds like Rick is throwing in with the establishment.
Maybe in private they want a Rick Perry vs. Cruz primary?

redguy on September 27, 2013 at 12:13 AM

If the ACA is, as conservatives believe, as unpleasant in potential effects as it is impossible to implement, conservatives should allow what Lincoln called “the silent artillery of time” to destroy it.

Popularly known as the ‘let it burn’ strategy, the favorite strategy of baby boomers who’ve already got theirs and will be on the receiving end of this generational theft; this redistribution from the young and relatively poor to the old and relatively wealthy. The same people who will benefit most from Obamacare are the same older, wealthier American’s who benefit the most the 7 or 8% of GDP that the fed is pumping into the stock market and housing.

Young people are getting the short end of the stick all the way around, so it’s no wonder that the favorite strategy of the old is ‘let it burn’, as recommended by the geriatric progressive RINO’s overpopulating Fox News Channel.

FloatingRock on September 27, 2013 at 12:13 AM

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2013 at 12:04 AM
I think they have already sent them the appropriations bill for the military and maybe some others. Senate refuses to take them up.
BTW saw somewhere what you posted about waking up and seeing Cruz still going and how good that made you feel. I thought it was well put and I had the exact same reaction. Just wanted you to know!

txmomof6 on September 27, 2013 at 12:14 AM

Ted Cruz more popular for 2016 presidential run than Rick Perry among Texans

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/18/poll-ted-cruz-more-popular-for-2016-presidential-run-than-rick-perry-among-texans/#ixzz2g3yrkZ7u

Remember – Cruz beat Dewhurst – Dewhurst is a moderate establishment type

Rick Perry endorses David Dewhurst for Hutchison’s Senate seat

http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012/04/rick-perry-endorses-david-dewhurst-for-hutchisons-senate-seat/

redguy on September 27, 2013 at 12:17 AM

The setup: Americans remain deeply ambivalent about the law, Republicans in Congress are still trying to rob it of legitimacy, and it could be a colossal failure if consumers don’t sign up.

It will be a colossal failure even if everyone signed up. Of course, Wesley Mouch will just blame the Republicans, saboteurs, and the greedy…and the sheeple will baah in agreement.

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 27, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Popularly known as the ‘let it burn’ strategy, the favorite strategy of baby boomers who’ve already got theirs and will be on the receiving end of this generational theft; this redistribution from the young and relatively poor to the old and relatively wealthy. The same people who will benefit most from Obamacare are the same older, wealthier American’s who benefit the most the 7 or 8% of GDP that the fed is pumping into the stock market and housing.

Young people are getting the short end of the stick all the way around, so it’s no wonder that the favorite strategy of the old is ‘let it burn’, as recommended by the geriatric progressive RINO’s overpopulating Fox News Channel.

FloatingRock on September 27, 2013 at 12:13 AM

I’m not old. I just think it’s coming down and now is better than later.

Axe on September 27, 2013 at 12:24 AM

petunia on September 26, 2013 at 11:05 PM

ObamaCare is based on the theory that young people who were stupid enough to vote for Obama are also stupid enough to overpay for insurance they don’t need and won’t use.

It’s also based on the theory the rest of us won’t notice we’re being screwed in the @$$ so long as Obama is singing us a BS lullaby.

The jury is still out on both counts.

In the meantime, the situation may be resolved by the immense incompetence of the people who built this Frankenstein. The sewed together monstrosity is presently being lifted up to await the lightning strike that they think will bring it to life.

novaculus on September 27, 2013 at 12:24 AM

petunia on September 26, 2013 at 11:28 PM

There is a clause in the ACA that only allows you to sign up during open enrollment periods.Get sick in between and you are on your own.

chemman on September 27, 2013 at 12:24 AM

g r o a n

Axe on September 27, 2013 at 12:24 AM

Heh, this one

A Small President on the World Stage
At the U.N., leaders hope for a return of American greatness.

–Peggy Noonan

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2013 at 12:03 AM

Old Peggy was for Obama before she was against him. In 2008 Peggy Noonan was singing Obama’s praises and trashing Sarah Palin.

bw222 on September 27, 2013 at 12:30 AM

Old people groan. Hehe.

SparkPlug on September 27, 2013 at 12:31 AM

I didn’t think Obama could fix things; but he did…..Millions more are on food stamps, millions have given up on finding work,..thus the unemployment numbers are going down, we now have 77 part time jobs filled for ever one full time job, people have 99 weeks of unemployment payments and the 40 hour work week is reduced to 29 hours. This is prosperity like we’ve never seen. People will be dancing in the streets singing “Happy Days Are Here Again” and lighting their cigars with $100 bills (newly printed ones that is).

The age of USobama…from a commenter on the Shapiro article.

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2013 at 12:32 AM

Peggy Noonan? She just spews what she thinks will get her attention. Doesn’t seem to have any guidance system whatever.

SparkPlug on September 27, 2013 at 12:33 AM

Ted Cruz more popular for 2016 presidential run than Rick Perry among Texans

redguy on September 27, 2013 at 12:17 AM

It’s kind of hard to get excited about Rick Perry after his 2012 debacle.

bw222 on September 27, 2013 at 12:33 AM

Axe, I don’t know if you went back to last night’s QotD. You said one of the wisest things, about knowing and suffering. I typed about it there…this morn.

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2013 at 12:34 AM

GOPe is a disgrace. Neutered miscreant cowards.

SparkPlug on September 27, 2013 at 12:34 AM

GOPe is a disgrace. Neutered miscreant cowards.

SparkPlug on September 27, 2013 at 12:34 AM

I hate them more than Kucinich.

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2013 at 12:36 AM

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2013 at 12:34 AM

:) Saw.

I mean

.

with knocking bones and chilled marrow

i blinked

ps

omg

Axe on September 27, 2013 at 12:46 AM

i bet if sophie were a werewolf

her butt would be furry

omg

#sophiecott

#furrybuttcott

Axe on September 27, 2013 at 12:49 AM

The Sky Is Crying

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2013 at 12:54 AM

I’ve noticed that it’s starting to sink in with many folks that we’re truly screwed. Not really any consolation, because most everyone seems content to live in shock and disillusionment than do anything about it. They’ll keep voting in the same old crooks over and over again, hoping for a different result.

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 27, 2013 at 1:01 AM

Dear MG,

A certain wizard has been…well…a tad bit odd. Can you conjure up him some magic Cheetos to cure his furrybuttcott?

SparkPlug on September 27, 2013 at 1:02 AM

How To Order Pizza After Obamacare Is Enacted In The Future…….

williamg on September 27, 2013 at 12:58 AM

That is hilarious! Liberal Utopia!!!

txhsmom on September 27, 2013 at 1:08 AM

zombies also odd

not for werewolf

. . . OMG ZOMBIE WEREWOLF

. . . ZEREWOLF

Axe on September 27, 2013 at 1:12 AM

The Last of the Mohicans

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2013 at 1:16 AM

For Scrumpy

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2013 at 1:21 AM

. . . OMG ZOMBIE WEREWOLF….for Axe

williamg on September 27, 2013 at 1:31 AM

The Mooche

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2013 at 1:37 AM

omg

thread occupied by night creatures

Axe on September 27, 2013 at 1:52 AM

also deficit spending

omg

Axe on September 27, 2013 at 1:53 AM

In the meantime, the situation may be resolved by the immense incompetence of the people who built this Frankenstein. The sewed together monstrosity is presently being lifted up to await the lightning strike that they think will bring it to life.

novaculus on September 27, 2013 at 12:24 AM

.
From a large scale IT perspective, next week should start the “Mother of All Meltdowns” as the Low Information Early Adopters perform the “Alpha test” of a patchwork of systems that are documented to be:

a) Less secure than the average GoDaddy.com website – The identity thieves are going to think they’ve died and gone to heaven.

b) Literal black holes where information once loaded, disappears before the user’s eyes … “Oops! Please try again.”

c) Virtual cesspools of misinformation and incorrect data – When a private company misleads you, its actionable. When the government does it, it’s S.O.P.

PolAgnostic on September 27, 2013 at 1:56 AM

Cracker, Hey Bret

My people came out of the forests and the mountains,
into this unpromising land.
Scratched out a living in this desert valley;
hard living for any man.

It weren’t no Eden,
as cold as Sweden,
like Hades in the summer time,

We built the cities,
we dug the ditches,
we picked the fruit from the vine.

Hey, Bret! You know what time it is?

Kenosha Kid on September 27, 2013 at 1:58 AM

I worked my way through the Corker/Cruz video, and Corker was just really lame. The GOPe so hates Cruz and Lee for their guts, their backing from the base on this issue and because they’re both just plain smarter than the rest of them.

Reagan alum Jeffrey Lord skewers the GOPe on a regular basis and he’s after them again this week. This is long, but amusing and worth reading. I usually enjoy reading Lord and always when he punctures the balloon of the revisionist GOPe who despised Reagan then, but want his mantle now.

Cruz Leads the Reaganite Rebellion

His measure of the GOPe’s ire:

…The GOP Establishment is so mad they have momentarily stopped attacking Sarah Palin.

He goes back to some of the things the GOPe of the day said about Reagan, and draws multiple parallels between Reagan and Cruz. The GOPe, of course, is still the same.

…in the primordial mists of 1965 when then actor-Reagan has decided to run for the 1966 Republican nomination for Governor of California. What was the reaction? Here’s a sample headline from the New York Times:

G.O.P. Moderates Fear Coup by Reagan on Coast

…What was it that Reagan was saying that so terrified moderate, Establishment Republicans? Said Mr. Reagan:

“I think basically that I stand for what the bulk of Americans stand for — dignity, freedom of the individual, the right to determine your own destiny.”

Wow. Really “out there” kind of stuff….

The GOP Establishment — and many of the Republican United Senators who seek their approval when not being card carrying members of that Establishment themselves — is no different in 2013 than it was in the California of 1965. They are now, as then, always willing to allow one more turn of the socialist ratchet to the left because to stand up and be counted otherwise is seen as bad “tactics.”

…Only when Reagan headed the 1980 ticket and a Reagan landslide ensued were so many Republicans swept into the Senate that long-time minority GOP senators became powerful Senate committee chairmen. And sure enough, like clockwork, these very same senators went out of their way to attack — Ronald Reagan.

GOP Senators, later noted biographer Steven F. Hayward, opposed every Reagan proposal from cutting social programs to cutting cabinet departments (Education and Energy) to privatizing the Bonneville Power Administration to tough treatment of the Soviets to his views on arms control and more. Incredibly, then-Senator Bob Packwood, the chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, “attacked Reagan as an obstacle to a Republican realignment.”

Really.

So here we go again. It’s the same and more of the same. Oh don’t do that Senator Cruz… it’s not smart tactics! It’s not good politics!

This is the advice of politicians more interested in protecting their own hide….

It’s worth remembering the horrors the GOPe had for Reagan and the scorn they heaped on him. They’ve sung this song before and they’ve always been off-key.

INC on September 27, 2013 at 2:12 AM

The government should not be closed; the debt ceiling will be raised. Republicans should, however, take to heart the last words of H.L. Mencken’s summation of Theodore Roosevelt: “Well, one does what one can.”

But Republicans do oh so much less than that.

besser tot als rot on September 27, 2013 at 2:24 AM

If ObamaCare fails, or seriously falters, the entitlement state will suffer a historic loss of credibility with the American people.

LOL. Leftists are the historians, poets, actors, the narrative weavers and lie tellers. Good luck with that one.

Punchenko on September 27, 2013 at 2:53 AM

Pat Buchanan:

The law authorizing President Obama to spend more money for Obamacare expires Sept. 30. If the House refuses to vote for any bill that contains new Obamacare funding, Obamacare is dead.

Thus the Republican House controls the fate of Obamacare.

House Republicans need to tell the country: Come hell or high water, we’re not voting to fund Obamacare. We will pass a CR on everything else in the budget, but Obamacare is not coming out of this House alive.

anotherJoe on September 27, 2013 at 3:08 AM

If ObamaCare fails, or seriously falters, the entitlement state will suffer a historic loss of credibility with the American people.

LOL. Leftists are the historians, poets, actors, the narrative weavers and lie tellers. Good luck with that one.

Punchenko on September 27, 2013 at 2:53 AM

It will suffer such a loss that they will immediately push for single payer to fix it.

besser tot als rot on September 27, 2013 at 3:11 AM

besser tot als rot on September 27, 2013 at 3:11 AM

I think that is supposed to be Hillary’s part of the plan. First, the disaster, then the pleaded for fix (single payer).

OldEnglish on September 27, 2013 at 3:24 AM

Broken by design.

Kenosha Kid on September 27, 2013 at 3:31 AM

Wow, looks like the depression surrounding Ocare has claimed another victim … QOTD. !!

Where’d everyone go ???

pambi on September 27, 2013 at 5:08 AM

pambi on September 27, 2013 at 5:08 AM

This happened the other day too. Good morning folks. Just stopped in before heading off to work.

dogsoldier on September 27, 2013 at 5:34 AM

Where’d everyone go ???

pambi on September 27, 2013 at 5:08 AM

c‘mere

Axe on September 27, 2013 at 5:34 AM

i’m sorry, but everyone is going to love obamcare once they see that they save $200-$300 on their premiums
-mika

LOL, keep towing that administration line there Mika

Joe is not there today, so its a LIB LOVE fest….
turning the channel now…

cmsinaz on September 27, 2013 at 6:20 AM

morning HA

Its FRIDAY!!!!

Friday night newsdump by obama…what could it be today??

cmsinaz on September 27, 2013 at 6:22 AM

Neil Cavuto responds to Mr. Obama:

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/your-world-cavuto/index.html

Mr. President, we at Fox News are not the problem!

esr1951 on September 27, 2013 at 6:30 AM

The law authorizing President Obama to spend more money for Obamacare expires Sept. 30. If the House refuses to vote for any bill that contains new Obamacare funding, Obamacare is dead.

Thus the Republican House controls the fate of Obamacare.

anotherJoe on September 27, 2013 at 3:08 AM

Never use the word Obama and law in the same sentence. He changes the law at his personal discretion quicker than McCain can change his depends.

fogw on September 27, 2013 at 6:31 AM

Good Morning, Patriots! …and, Trolls.

Remember these words when I am dead. First be sure you’re right, then go ahead.

– Davy Crockett
My take: “The Republican Civil War Over Obamacare: Conservatives Vs. the Vichy Republicans”

kingsjester on September 27, 2013 at 6:32 AM

Its FRIDAY!!!!

Friday night newsdump by obama…what could it be today??

cmsinaz on September 27, 2013 at 6:22 AM

Uh Oh! Guess what day it is! Guess what day it is!

Mika Mika Mika! Guess what day it is!

It’s Dump Day!!!!!!

Congrats to Allahpundit for the quote on Mike Huckabee’s morning commentary.

Happy Nomad on September 27, 2013 at 6:43 AM

Joe is not there today, so its a LIB LOVE fest….
turning the channel now…

cmsinaz on September 27, 2013 at 6:20 AM

Isn’t Schmoe’s contract odd? “We know it’s your show that’s named after you, but we’d prefer you didn’t come in today.”

It’s really been unwatchable since they couldn’t take the heat and got rid of Pat Buchanan, who used to laugh openly at them.

Marcus on September 27, 2013 at 6:46 AM

kingsjester on September 27, 2013 at 6:32 AM

morning KJ

SPOT on take once again….

cmsinaz on September 27, 2013 at 6:54 AM

Happy Nomad on September 27, 2013 at 6:43 AM

LOL

Marcus on September 27, 2013 at 6:46 AM

i hear ya…

cmsinaz on September 27, 2013 at 6:56 AM

Remember these words when I am dead. First be sure you’re right, then go ahead.
– Davy Crockett

kingsjester on September 27, 2013 at 6:32 AM

When Davy Crockett was in Congress as an anti-Jacksonian, he didn’t have other anti-Jacksonians attacking him on the floor of the House. He didn’t have the anti-Jacksonian leadership lecturing the public about the need to go along to get along or “pragmatic” leadership.

Upon defeat he supposedly said: “I told the people of my district that I would serve them as faithfully as I had done; but if not, they might go to hell, and I would go to Texas.” Well, I’d say the conservative movement needs to tell the GOP “leadership” to go to hell if they continue to represent the surrender caucus and maintain a deaf ear to the will of the American people.

Happy Nomad on September 27, 2013 at 6:56 AM

cmsinaz on September 27, 2013 at 6:54 AM

Thank you, ma’am!

Happy Nomad on September 27, 2013 at 6:56 AM

Yep.

kingsjester on September 27, 2013 at 6:59 AM

Isn’t Schmoe’s contract odd? “We know it’s your show that’s named after you, but we’d prefer you didn’t come in today.”

Marcus on September 27, 2013 at 6:46 AM

Not nearly as add as Schmoe maintaining that he’s a conservative and holding up his Conservative Union rating from over a decade ago as “proof” that he isn’t part of the MSDNC echo chamber.

Happy Nomad on September 27, 2013 at 7:00 AM

Hey, how screwed up is this?

If ABC News has it right (a big if), in the event of a government shutdown, the federal workforce including the military and other essential employees will not be paid. But Congress will still get their paycheck by law.

The fact of the matter is that a shutdown is a failure of our political leadership and yet the very critters who are responsible for that failure will not feel the pain that is inflicted on that E-4 servicemember, air traffic controller, or TSA agent.

Happy Nomad on September 27, 2013 at 7:05 AM

Happy Nomad on September 27, 2013 at 7:05 AM

Just like they’re exempt from Obamacare.

This must be France. All we are missing are the guillotines…and the Word War II dropped rifles.

kingsjester on September 27, 2013 at 7:09 AM

Just like they’re exempt from Obamacare.

This must be France. All we are missing are the guillotines…and the Word War II dropped rifles.

kingsjester on September 27, 2013 at 7:09 AM

Yeah, being part of the political nobility is a really good deal. No wonder the surrender caucus is working so hard on behalf of themselves.

Happy Nomad on September 27, 2013 at 7:12 AM

Happy Nomad on September 27, 2013 at 7:00 AM

there is that

cmsinaz on September 27, 2013 at 7:13 AM

This must be France. All we are missing are the guillotines . . .

kingsjester on September 27, 2013 at 7:09 AM

Patience, man, patience.

Axe on September 27, 2013 at 7:15 AM

Axe on September 27, 2013 at 7:15 AM

Well…they did use them in the Left Behind Novels.

kingsjester on September 27, 2013 at 7:30 AM

If the ACA is, as conservatives believe, as unpleasant in potential effects as it is impossible to implement, conservatives should allow what Lincoln called “the silent artillery of time” to destroy it.

Give them what they claim they want: full funding for the ACA, as written, and strip the President of having any ability to issue any waivers or have any discretion in execution of the law AS WRITTEN. All current waivers are rescinded by Congress and cannot be granted BY LAW. Put a 10 year felony on that, and then any Congresscritter can prosecute anyone in the Executive attempting to hand out a waiver. Then it is up to the officers of the court to haul in the miscreant, not the DoJ.

If Democrats love their Obamacare, then they should get it with no allowance for changes, no allowance for executive discretion and just as it is written.

Tell the American people that if they hate this law then they need to elect better representatives to get rid of it. Let Americans feel the LOVE of the Leftist ideal without trying to lessen it. Those who have fought the good fight will be seen in their voting PRESENT allowing the Democrats and RINOs to pass it or NOT as they please. And if this can’t pass both Houses, then put out there is always removing the funding from Obamacare to reconsider…and let those supporters say why they support the law AS WRITTEN. And if they don’t like it, AS WRITTEN, then find out why they still support it. Get these idiots on the record for their support of preferences, Presidential waivers, favoritism and increasing the cost of health care for everyone that will not benefit everyone but serve as funnel of money to insurance companies, political activists and crony businesses.

That is Plan B.

Plan C is to get better representatives by explaining this and then excise Obamacare via dept. by dept., agency by agency funding until the fight is about HHS and the IRS. Shift this battlefield to one the rats on both sides will not like.

ajacksonian on September 27, 2013 at 7:35 AM

Reid to Boehner:


“Send us a clean CR, clean debt ceiling. That’s the path forward. There’s no need for conversations. We’ve spoken loudly and clearly, and we have the support of the president of the United States, and that’s pretty good,”

And Republicans are the stubborn obstructionists?

Happy Nomad on September 27, 2013 at 7:38 AM

My take: “The Republican Civil War Over Obamacare: Conservatives Vs. the Vichy Republicans”

kingsjester on September 27, 2013 at 6:32 AM

…good one kj…yes!…the House holds the purse strings!…the Republicans can’t duck the responsibility!

KOOLAID2 on September 27, 2013 at 7:42 AM

Well…they did use them in the Left Behind Novels.

kingsjester on September 27, 2013 at 7:30 AM

:)

–Wait, why am I smiling.

:(

. . . trying to finishing my essay on the Zombie Apocalypse. The fact that our back and forth has followed this theme I’ll take as evidence that I’m on the right track. :) Working title: “Apocalypse Now.”

Axe on September 27, 2013 at 8:09 AM

C-span TV is replaying Reid & Lee, Corker & Cruz now

bluefox on September 27, 2013 at 9:00 AM

Wow, looks like the depression surrounding Ocare has claimed another victim … QOTD. !!

Where’d everyone go ???

pambi on September 27, 2013 at 5:08 AM

Remember all the scaremongering revolving around the dreaded Y2K, which ended up being a total non-event? I myself didn’t get excited in anticipation then, because I knew nothing would happen. 0bamacare’s implementation, on the other hand? I’ve seen a few commenters in the health field say that the general public has no idea what’s going to hit us, and I know they’re right. The upcoming upheaval/chaos is going to be Biblical – I’ve been bucking up in preparation for this one.

I’ll take the moment here to state that I completely admire Cruz’s intent, and that I find those who’ve been attacking him as an egomaniac to be egomaniacs themselves! :)

Anti-Control on September 27, 2013 at 12:16 PM

For Scrumpy

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2013 at 1:21 AM

Thank you :) one of my fav songs…

Scrumpy on September 27, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Wow, looks like the depression surrounding Ocare has claimed another victim … QOTD. !!

Where’d everyone go ???

pambi on September 27, 2013 at 5:08 AM

It’s all just too much to cope with pambi, the lies. THE LIES!

Scrumpy on September 27, 2013 at 12:22 PM

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