Harry Reid: Repeal of that “stupid” medical device tax won’t go in the CR

posted at 6:01 pm on September 26, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

At first, I wasn’t quite sure if he was referring to the medical device tax as “the stupid tax” in the sense that he is simply fed up with its detractors for making so much hay over it, but it certainly does sound like he’s just calling the medical device tax itself just straight-up stupid, no?

Listen, I know you have been listening, but we want a clean CR — that’s what we’re going to get. If they want to shut down the government, here’s how much time they have to figure out it: 4 days, 11 hours, 22 minutes, and 15 seconds. No, they can play around all they want. Some of the biggest supporters for doing away with the stupid tax — I’m sorry, I shouldn’t have said that — doing away with that tax have told me they won’t support that on CR.

As the Left somehow seems perfectly capable of acknowledging when they propose sin taxes on things they don’t like such as cigarettes, junk food, and guns, taxes are a reliable way for encouraging less of something — but why for goodness’ sake ObamaCare’s authors and supporters want to deter medical-device innovation when the ostensible point of this entire charade is to help bring down health care costs, even they can’t seem to adequately answer.

With its job-killing consequences readily apparent, repeal of the 2.3% excise tax on medical devices has gotten plenty of bipartisan support on Capitol Hill with majorities in both the House and Senate on board to get rid of it. I doubt Reid would want to bring to a vote anything undermining the health care law at this, its critical stage, no matter how much Democrats themselves oppose it; but anyway, as Reid suggested, the Senate’s repeal advocates will likely wait for the debt-ceiling showdown to try and force it, via Politico:

The leading Senate backers of a push to repeal the medical device tax are warning that the government funding bill currently under consideration isn’t the right venue for this fight.

“Right now, it’s not part of the strategy,” said Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota, the leading Democratic sponsor of legislation that would repeal the 2.3 percent levy on device manufacturers.

Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch, the top Republican on the Finance Committee who wrote medical device tax repeal legislation with Klobuchar, agreed.

He said it would be better to include the repeal in legislation to raise the debt ceiling.

“We’re going to go after that, but it’s probably going to be on the debt limit,” he said. “There’s a difference: [The CR] is not particularly a tax bill. And there’s a question about putting it there. The next bill is a tax bill.”


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Wasn’t the medical device tax (and the tax on Cadillac plans) one of the major funding sources for the ACA? You know, so it wouldn’t cost us “one dime”?

So if that funding source is removed – how do they make up the lost dollars?

Hill60 on September 26, 2013 at 6:07 PM

it sounds like the wheels are just coming slightly off the elite.

rob verdi on September 26, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Wasn’t the medical device tax (and the tax on Cadillac plans) one of the major funding sources for the ACA? You know, so it wouldn’t cost us “one dime”?

So if that funding source is removed – how do they make up the lost dollars?

Hill60 on September 26, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Premiums and fees whipped up by regulation.

rob verdi on September 26, 2013 at 6:09 PM

that was budgeted to pay for Obamacare…where are you going add it back in? I’d vote for casinos in Nevada. Or maybe property taxes in Search Light.

DanMan on September 26, 2013 at 6:09 PM

A better question then how they will up the funds, is from who will they whip up the funds?

rob verdi on September 26, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Can someone explain why Harry Reid decides what goes in the CR and what exactly do the Republicans plan to do about this? I’ve seen Cruz do his part as well as a handful of others but that’s about it.

I say let it burn, I don’t a shit if the Republicans do get the blame – if they let this fly those allowing it won’t get a damn penny of support from me ever again.

celt on September 26, 2013 at 6:10 PM

I wish it was 4 days, 11 hours, 22 minutes, and 15 seconds until Satan reclaimed Harry Reid to his realm.

Phoenix7 on September 26, 2013 at 6:10 PM

“Right now, it’s not part of the strategy,” said Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota, the leading Democratic sponsor of legislation that would repeal the 2.3 percent levy on device manufacturers.

Why, because the O won’t negotiate?

rob verdi on September 26, 2013 at 6:11 PM

So if that funding source is removed – how do they make up the lost dollars?

Hill60 on September 26, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Serfdom.

Oil Can on September 26, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Its all about the money.

Don’t laugh, but I wouldn’t be surprised if one day Americans are forced to wear pedometers and pay a tax for walking. Wear and tear on the sidewalks, donchaknow.

After they fix the climate, we’ll all be walking. So where are they gonna get the money they’d lose from the gas and car taxes?

These boots are made for walkin’
and thats just what they’ll do….
And one of these days these boots
are gonna walk all over you…….

BobMbx on September 26, 2013 at 6:12 PM

As predicted, Dingy Harry is protecting the offspring of his ménage à trois with Pelosi and Obama with the ferocity of a father cub.

Can someone tell me how the “delay” crowd will get to either 60 to get a “delay” past Dingy Harry or to 67 and 289 to get past an Obama veto when not one Rat will vote for total delay? </table_turned>

Steve Eggleston on September 26, 2013 at 6:14 PM

This man has brain rot. Term limits are needed now more than ever.

jawkneemusic on September 26, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Can the House could pass a budget that is less than the debt “ceiling.”

Is that still legal? Or are CRs now mandatory, so Boehner’s hands are tied?

kunegetikos on September 26, 2013 at 6:17 PM

For once I agree with Harry Reid, Heaven forfend! But not for the reasons he wants to keep it. He should leave this in so that the headache and pressure from those industries (primarily in the Northeast) will continue for the Democrats. If they take away all the “taxes” on particular industries then the costs of ObamaCare subsidies to the Treasury don’t go away they just get shifted to the individual taxpayer who won’t get to shift it away. If we have to suffer, everyone should have to suffer.

txmomof6 on September 26, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Wasn’t the medical device tax (and the tax on Cadillac plans) one of the major funding sources for the ACA? You know, so it wouldn’t cost us “one dime”?

So if that funding source is removed – how do they make up the lost dollars?

Hill60 on September 26, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Well, there will be far fewer people getting x-rays, CT scans, kidney dialysis, EKGs, EEGs, blood pressure readings, anesthesia, colonoscopies, etc, etc. – so the gubmint health overlords won’t have to subsidize nearly as much actual healthcare expenses.
That should save a bundle….

And an additional plus – there will be more “ingredients” available to go into the Moocher approved production of earth-friendly soylent green for the masses to get with their gubmint issued food stamps…

dentarthurdent on September 26, 2013 at 6:18 PM

I wish it was 4 days, 11 hours, 22 minutes, and 15 seconds until Satan reclaimed Harry Reid to his realm.

Phoenix7 on September 26, 2013 at 6:10 PM

He’s doing far too much “good work” to be taken off the job just yet….

dentarthurdent on September 26, 2013 at 6:20 PM

Don’t laugh, but I wouldn’t be surprised if one day Americans are forced to wear pedometers and pay a tax for walking. Wear and tear on the sidewalks, donchaknow.
BobMbx on September 26, 2013 at 6:12 PM

That will be the infrastructure tax – but the other side of it will be the health overlords will require us to walk a minimum amount per day as mandatory exercise to stay healthy….

dentarthurdent on September 26, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Don’t laugh, but I wouldn’t be surprised if one day Americans are forced to wear pedometers and pay a tax for walking. Wear and tear on the sidewalks, donchaknow.
BobMbx on September 26, 2013 at 6:12 PM

You can actually earn extra money in our health insurance plan for wearing a pedometer. I joke with people that when the govt makes me wear one, I’m putting it on my dog’s collar.

txhsmom on September 26, 2013 at 6:28 PM

“We’re going to go after that, but it’s probably going to be on the debt limit,” he said. “There’s a difference: [The CR] is not particularly a tax bill. And there’s a question about putting it there. The next bill is a tax bill.”

Why doesn’t the House just draft and pass a single bill dealing with the repeal of this stupid tax? Then the Senate can vote on that bill without having to attach it to something else.

How complicated could it be? “Section _____ of the ACA, The Medical Device Tax, is hereby repealed, in its entirety.”

Everybody agrees it’s a stupid, counter-productive tax that is going to unfairly burden medical device manufacturers and impede the development of new medical devices. Kill the damn tax, and do it now. We also all know that the promise that Obamacare wouldn’t add a “single dime” to the deficit was a bald-faced lie from the start. The lost revenues that will result from the repeal of this stupid tax aren’t going to change that fact.

AZCoyote on September 26, 2013 at 6:30 PM

AZCoyote on September 26, 2013 at 6:30 PM

That was my first thought. My second was, does Harry Reid even realize that there would be no need for a clean CR if the Senate would just pass budget? Why is no one calling him on this?

hopeful on September 26, 2013 at 6:32 PM

I attribute Reid’s slip to battling with Cruz.

These guys are so accustomed to dealing with a squishy GOP that they are all sorts of rattled thanks to Ted Cruz. I predict more of this as Cruz gets even bolder.

weaselyone on September 26, 2013 at 6:39 PM

If only we could tax stupidity. I’d hate to see Dingy Harry’s tax bill though.

rbj on September 26, 2013 at 6:39 PM

AZCoyote on September 26, 2013 at 6:30 PM

The House did pass a bill eliminating the medical device tax last year. Not sure if they did again this year. Maybe they figured that it wasn’t worth their time since Harry Reid refuses to brig anything from the House up for a vote.

weaselyone on September 26, 2013 at 6:43 PM

How about we put that excise tax where Dear Harry can find it every time he sits down?

GarandFan on September 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM

Steve Eggleston on September 26, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Agreed..I only gave the delay strategy a 10% chance..Guess it is time for the fall back position..Let it Burn..:)

Dire Straits on September 26, 2013 at 7:01 PM

I guess I missed the part where Harry Reid became dictator of public policy, especially policy that has to originate in the House. You’ll get what you get you corrupt SOB. Deal with it or shut the government down but you don’t get to make demands about what the bill will and will not contain.

Happy Nomad on September 26, 2013 at 7:05 PM

These guys are so accustomed to dealing with a squishy GOP that they are all sorts of rattled thanks to Ted Cruz. I predict more of this as Cruz gets even bolder.

weaselyone on September 26, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Yeah Durbin was crushed by Cruz and then Reid tried to insert John McCain in the middle of the filibuster and was swatted down. They’re pissed today that their authority has been challenged by their peers.

Happy Nomad on September 26, 2013 at 7:07 PM

ready for the punch line? joe biden to the rescue

gracie on September 26, 2013 at 7:14 PM

Just put an amendment in that the entire Obamacare must be enforced as written and later amended.

No variance.

No exclusions.

No waivers.

No executive discretion.

Force them to live with what they passed.

That will get results: pain.

ajacksonian on September 26, 2013 at 7:15 PM

That was my first thought. My second was, does Harry Reid even realize that there would be no need for a clean CR if the Senate would just pass budget? Why is no one calling him on this?

hopeful on September 26, 2013 at 6:32 PM

The CR’s allow the dems to keep adding in that 790 billion worth of stimulus money every year. If they went back to a budget it would cause them some problems. Since the House goes along every year they really aren’t for small government either.

chemman on September 26, 2013 at 7:26 PM

So it’s “my way or the highway” for Harry on the CR?

This jackass was braying about “cooperative effort” on Twitter just this morning.

I want to thank the people of Nevada for gracing us with this inflamed hemorrhoid on the sphincter of humanity for another 6 years.

novaculus on September 26, 2013 at 7:34 PM

I have always suspected that the medical device tax was at least partially intended to slow the gains in average longevity so folks die more quickly, before they have more chance to “consume limited health care dollars”.

sonof1073rd on September 26, 2013 at 8:03 PM

weaselyone on September 26, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Thank you. I thought I had read something about that, but couldn’t quite recall (and didn’t feel like looking it up).

Reid really is a disgrace.

AZCoyote on September 26, 2013 at 8:24 PM

This tax is slated to cost my company over a million dollars next year.

That’s a *lot* of jobs we won’t be creating.

Midas on September 26, 2013 at 8:41 PM

Democrat Utopia begins Oct 1.

Well, it was supposed to start the minute Obama entered the Whitehouse.

But after 5 years things look most dystopian.

So now it really begins.

I’m not sure we are delaying, but I think we should insist that they lift all the exemptions and allow all people to enjoy the Utopia.

If Utopia is so Utopian, why are we excluding so very very many Utopia hungry Americans? It is just not fair to them. They want the right to healthcare too! This is discrimination!!!!

Healthcare is a RIGHT!!!!!! Why I this President denying those people their rights?

petunia on September 26, 2013 at 9:58 PM

If we’re removing stupidity from Obamacare, lets not forget to yank out the “wedding tax“!!! The “wedding tax” destroys families by imposing huge penalties (over $11,000 in some cases) on moderate income married couples: making it cheaper to divorce or just “shack up”.

It appears that Harry Reid wants to attack each individual “stupid” in ACA sperately. HEY HARRY!!! WOULDN’T IT BE MORE EFFICIENT JUST TO REPEAL THE WHOLE STUPID THING AND START OVER???

landlines on September 26, 2013 at 10:14 PM

“Obama adviser compares Republicans to terrorists, kidnappers, arsonists…”
– What a P.O.S.! He promised to be the ‘Great Uniter’, and he is attacking the GOP when he won’t even meet with them.

And Harry Reid, the guy who ADMITTED 2 months ago that Obamacare was not meant to improve anything but instead was meant to destroy the current US Health care System to help usher in the ‘Single Payer’ system, is vowing to help Obama break another Obamacare promise – that Obamacare would NOT RAISE TAXES. The medical device tax is just that, a mean-spirited tax aimed at ‘punishing’ those in wheel-chairs, those needing prosthetics, etc…

Wake the h#ll up, America. You can close your eyes and blame the GOP like your ‘Master’ tells you to do, or you can open up your eyes and see what lying b@st@rds these two are and how they are $crewing YOU AND THIS NATION!

easyt65 on September 27, 2013 at 7:24 AM