Blitzer to Carney: Hey, why did Obama vote against raising the debt ceiling?

posted at 10:01 pm on September 26, 2013 by Mary Katharine Ham

This is sort of weak sauce as tough questioning goes— a bit of a throwaway at the end of the segment with no follow-up— but we take what we can get when it comes to occasionally pricking holes in the narrative. Though the questioning isn’t aggressive, the overarching message of the segment, for a change, deals with President Obama’s actions, Obama’s refusal to negotiate, and Obama’s hypocritical behavior instead of acting as if he has no responsibility in this.

Wolf Blitzer started by noting that Obama’s refusal to negotiate to raise the debt ceiling would make him the first of modern presidents not to negotiate, and Blitzer included Obama himself in his tally since the president negotiated over the debt ceiling in 2011. Carney then responded by making the audience wonder, if he’s the guy who’s supposed to represent the administration on TV every day of the week, shouldn’t he be better at being on TV? Or, at least that’s what I got out of it.

Click to watch:

Carney

The idea that negotiating over the debt limit is somehow “unprecedented” has been debunked over and over, with the Washington Post awarding Obama Four Pinocchios for his statement that, “You have never seen in the history of the United States the debt ceiling or the threat of not raising the debt being used to extort a president or a governing party and trying to force issues that have nothing to do with the budget and nothing to do with the debt.”

In fact, you saw it from Congressional Democrats during the Nixon administration, 25 times with 25 different nongermane items from 1978 to 1987, and it was used successfully in 1980 to repeal one of Carter’s unpopular energy measures. The president keeps using this word, “unprecedented.” I do not think it means what he thinks it means.

Carney’s last response is classic, as he tries to explain how then-Sen. Obama’s vote to not raise the debt ceiling was somehow not a vote to “default,” as the White House claims Republicans taking the exact same vote would be today.

“The president voted against raising the debt ceiling as a senator to make a point about what he believed were wrong fiscal priorities of that administration,” Carney replied. “What then Senator Obama never did was say, ‘I will vote to default if I don’t get what I want.’”

A distinction without a difference. And, lest we forget Obama’s remarks on the occasion of his vote for default because he wasn’t getting what he wanted:

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

Yes, they do.


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Someone could say Dog Eater’s first name was “Barack” and if Carney thought that could be a problem he would say “No it isn’t”.

Bishop on September 26, 2013 at 10:07 PM

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

Obama is a liar and his followers don’t care because most of them are liars, cheats, crooks and criminals.

redguy on September 26, 2013 at 10:07 PM

MammaHam!

faraway on September 26, 2013 at 10:10 PM

…lying is now normal!

KOOLAID2 on September 26, 2013 at 10:10 PM

The 8 Long Years of The Pinocchio Era

faraway on September 26, 2013 at 10:12 PM

Watch the clock. Republicans wo

bflat879 on September 26, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Shut up, Wolf and watch the show!

bloggless on September 26, 2013 at 10:20 PM

Barry never lets hypocrisy get in the way.

GarandFan on September 26, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Who knew Wolf was capable of a random act of journalism.

can_con on September 26, 2013 at 10:23 PM

surprised wolfie even brought it up…

cmsinaz on September 26, 2013 at 10:24 PM

can_con on September 26, 2013 at 10:23 PM

+1

cmsinaz on September 26, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Doesn’t matter. Monopoly money. Might as well raise it into oblivion. We only pay it off with many decades of hyper inflation. Or war.

Or both.

wolly4321 on September 26, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Obama’s decision not to raise the debt ceiling wasn’t just a symbolic vote without a possible cost either. In their attempt to ‘make a point’ about Bush’s spending and borrowing, which were too high for me, but were Scrooge-like in comparison to President Obama’s sheer gluttony, Democrats came just three votes shy from defeating the debt ceiling increase sought by Bush. F*ck Full Faith & Credit and defaulting on our country’s credit! ‘Politics, games, finding a way to raise the debt limit to take some serious steps to get our fiscal house in order’ only became a pressing matter later on, as we shall see.

Senator Obama wasn’t the only Democrat that said, ‘Nyet, no more rubles for you!’ Oh, no, senior statesmen and women, who are bemoaning the ‘irresponsible resistance’ to raising the debt ceiling now, voted not to do so when, well, it was different, you see, because Bush. Who else joined Obama in acting ‘irresponsibly’ and ‘jeopardising our Full Faith & Credit and defaulting upon our obligations?

Senator Daniel Akaka (D-HI)

Senator Max Baucus (D-MT)

Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)

Senator Joseph R Biden (D-DE)

Senator Jeff Bingaman (D-NM)

Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA)

Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV)

Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA)

Senator Tom Carper (D-DE)

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY)

Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND)

Senator Mark Dayton (D-MN)

Senator Christopher Dodd (D-CT)

Senator Byron Dorgan (D-ND)

Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL)

Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI)

Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)

Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA)

Senator Daniel Inouye (D-HI)

Senator Jim Jeffords (I-VT)

Senator Tim Johnson (D-SD)

Senator Edward Kennedy (D-MA)

Senator John Kerry (D-MA)

Senator Herb Kohl (D-WI)

Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA)

Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ)

Senator Pat Leahy (D-VT)

Senator Carl Levin (D-MI)

Senator Joe Lieberman (D-CT)

Senator Blanche Lincoln (D-AR)

Senator Bob Menendez (D-NJ)

Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-MD)

Senator Patty Murray (D-WA)

Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL)

Senator Ben Nelson (D-NE)

Senator Mark Pryor (D-AR)

Senator Jack Reed (D-RI)

Senator Harry Reid (D-NV)

Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV)

Senator Ken Salazar (D-CO)

Senator Paul Sarbanes (D-MD)

Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY)

Senator Debbie Stabenow (D-MI)

Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR)

I remember when then-Senator Barack Obama said this as he was campaigning for President…

‘The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents – #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.’

– Senator Barack Obama, Fargo, North Dakota, 3 July 2008

In 2011, President Obama’s Press Secretary, Robert Gibbs, said:

‘It is important for Congress not to play politics, not to play games, to find a way to raise that debt limit, understand that we are going to have to take some serious steps to get our fiscal house in order.’

Well, to all of the above, I say this:

‘The problem is that the way Obama has done it in the last 1,702 days is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $10,628,881,485,510.23 from the first 43 presidents to $16,738,444,833,206.

No. 44 has added $6,111,567,784,293 by his lonesome. So we now have over $16,738,444,833,206 of debt that we are going to have to pay back. $53,995.17 for every man, woman, and child.

If President Obama called President George W Bush irresponsible and unpatriotic for presiding over a $4,901,104,747,205.59 increase in the national debt over 8 years, then what does he think we should call him for spending $6,111,567,784,293 in 1,711 days?

Irresponsible and unpatriotic’ sound too mild in comparison; perhaps, ‘treasonous’ might be a more apt description of Mr Obama’s spending.’

- Sophie/ResistWeMuch, 26 September 2012

Resist We Much on September 26, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Obama is the bearded Spock on the original Star Trek..

Electrongod on September 26, 2013 at 10:26 PM

cmsinaz on September 26, 2013 at 10:25 PM

I was expecting to see Candy Crowley charge onto the set and tackle Wolf as she screamed “noooooooooooo” in slow motion.

can_con on September 26, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Old & Busted:

‘I rise today to talk about America’s debt problem.

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Over the past 5 years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion. That is ‘‘trillion’’ with a ‘‘T.’’ That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers. And over the next 5 years, between now and 2011, the President’s budget will increase the debt by almost another $3.5 trillion.

Numbers that large are sometimes hard to understand. Some people may wonder why they matter. Here is why: This year, the Federal Government will spend $220 billion on interest. That is more money to pay interest on our national debt than we’ll spend on Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program. That is more money to pay interest on our debt this year than we will spend on education, homeland security, transportation, and veterans benefits combined. It is more money in one year than we are likely to spend to rebuild the devastated gulf coast in a way that honors the best of America.

And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on.

Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America’s priorities. Instead, interest payments are a significant tax on all Americans—a debt tax that Washington doesn’t want to talk about. If Washington were serious about honest tax relief in this country, we would see an effort to reduce our national debt by returning to responsible fiscal policies.

Our debt also matters internationally. My friend, the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, likes to remind us that it took 42 Presidents 224 years to run up only $1 trillion of foreign-held debt. This administration did more than that in just 5 years. Now, there is nothing wrong with borrowing from foreign countries. But we must remember that the more we depend on foreign nations to lend us money, the more our economic security is tied to the whims of foreign leaders whose interests might not be aligned with ours.

Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here.’’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit.’

- Senator Barack Obama, (D-IL), floor of the Senate, 16 March 2006


New Hotness:

‘Now, this debt ceiling — I just want to remind people in case you haven’t been keeping up — RAISING THE DEBT CEILING, WHICH HAS BEEN DONE OVER A HUNDRED TIMES, DOES NOT INCREASE OUR DEBT; it does not somehow promote profligacy. All it does is it says you got to pay the bills that you’ve already racked up, Congress. It’s a basic function of making sure that the full faith and credit of the United States is preserved. It’s always a tough vote because THE AVERAGE PERSON THINKS RAISING THE DEBT CEILING MUST MEAN THAT WE’RE RUNNING UP OUR DEBT, so people don’t like to vote on it, and, typically, there’s SOME GAMESMANSHIP IN TERMS OF MAKING THE PRESIDENT’S PARTY SHOULDER THE BURDEN of raising the — taking the vote.’

- President Barack Obama, Remarks by the President at the Business Roundtable, 18 September 2013

Resist We Much on September 26, 2013 at 10:28 PM

Not to put too fine a point on it, but the president’s unwillingness to negotiate now is the executive version of ‘I will vote to default if I don’t get what I want.’

sulla on September 26, 2013 at 10:30 PM

Obama: ‘I will not negotiate on the debt limit.’


Poll: 61% of Americans REJECT Obama’s clean debt vote.

#AnotherObamaFAIL

Resist We Much on September 26, 2013 at 10:30 PM

Next time, Wolfie, ask that question directly to the Rodeo Clown.

Rational Thought on September 26, 2013 at 10:30 PM

RAISING THE DEBT CEILING, WHICH HAS BEEN DONE OVER A HUNDRED TIMES, DOES NOT INCREASE OUR DEBT

Is it really debt if you never intend to pay it back? /s

can_con on September 26, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Resist We Much on September 26, 2013 at 10:26 PM

good times

cmsinaz on September 26, 2013 at 10:35 PM

It is good to see a post from Mary Katherine. I wish she posted more frequently, but since she started at HotAir it seems like we don’t get many post from her very often.

bluegill on September 26, 2013 at 10:54 PM

An interview of B. Obama by Mark Levin and Obama without notes or a telaprompter or Carney etal to coach Obama would be the best thing post sliced bread.

World Wide Pay TV sales would pay off the national debt…

APACHEWHOKNOWS on September 26, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Obama is now and always was full of s**t. Everyone in his administration & every Democrat in Congress (and some Republicans – i.e. McCain, Graham) are full of s**t. I’m sick of the whole lot of them & every idiot, unserious low-info voter who keeps electing these jackballs to make decisions that benefit no one but themselves. The entire system is corrupt. The Founding Fathers are rolling in their graves.

KateNE on September 26, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Mary Katharine Ham,

etal those who work with her.

Take a look at this vid ref: herein.

Jay Carney seems to have now affected a turn of the use of his lips where he now talks with a pronounced up turn of his lips on the left side of his mouth.

Take a look at lots of prior vids of him in interviews, seems this affecdtation is new.

Could be the pressure of the mountains of lies and misdriction is affecting his mental state.

Pressure causes all of us to do things we do not notice as we attempt to subdue the natural human traits we all have.

Seems Pres. Obama also is now being effected in somewhat the same way.

His stutter talking in his speeches seems to be more pronounced as well as his voice becomeing higher and higher pitched as time goes on.

Do a side by side review, I think you may detect things of note.

This message is from a 10th generation horse trader and we know a lot about the tells of the guy we are selling our bad horsed to.

Yours,
an apache who knows some things

APACHEWHOKNOWS on September 26, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Calm down! That vote against raising the debt limit by Sen. Obama
was by the ChangeAndHope Obama. Clearly, he has become the HopeAndChange Obama over the past two elections.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

shorebird on September 26, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Stop allowing democrats to claiming that a failure to raise the debt ceiling is a default. It’s not.

The United States can continue to make good on its debt obligations by using new revenue coming into the Treasury. We don’t need new debt in order to avoid default.

If default occurs, then it’s because Obama would rather spend the money somewhere else.

blink on September 26, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Yes.

And: It’s a slowdown, not a shutdown.

All essential services and our debt service can be paid out of current monthly federal revenue. That’s not a shutdown.

Meremortal on September 26, 2013 at 11:26 PM

‘The problem is that the way Obama has done it in the last 1,702 days is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $10,628,881,485,510.23 from the first 43 presidents to $16,738,444,833,206.

No. 44 has added $6,111,567,784,293 by his lonesome. So we now have over $16,738,444,833,206 of debt that we are going to have to pay back. $53,995.17 for every man, woman, and child.

Resist We Much,

Your post reflects a profound misunderstanding of American sovereign debt. Most of that debt is domestic. That is, it’s money we borrow from ourselves, not China. Moreover, it’s nonsensical to say that we are imposing that debt on to our children, since once we all die, the ownership of our debt will be passed onto them.

righty45 on September 26, 2013 at 11:43 PM

Your post reflects a profound misunderstanding of American sovereign debt. Most of that debt is domestic.

righty45

Your post reflects a disturbing lack of reading comprehension. Or maybe you’re just a typical left wing idiot.

xblade on September 26, 2013 at 11:50 PM

Your post reflects a disturbing lack of reading comprehension.

xblade on September 26, 2013 at 11:50 PM

Please elaborate.

righty45 on September 26, 2013 at 11:54 PM

The president keeps using this word, “unprecedented.” I do not think it means what he thinks it means.

He just means it hasn’t been done with a black president before.

malclave on September 27, 2013 at 12:02 AM

There seems to be little discussion of where this money is ending up. No one seems to want to “follow the money”.

The vast majority of that “spending” is looting, plain and simple. But who’s getting it?

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 27, 2013 at 12:09 AM

Resist We Much,

Your post reflects a profound misunderstanding of American sovereign debt. Most of that debt is domestic. That is, it’s money we borrow from ourselves, not China. Moreover, it’s nonsensical to say that we are imposing that debt on to our children, since once we all die, the ownership of our debt will be passed onto them.

righty45 on September 26, 2013 at 11:43 P

You need to learn the difference between the national debt and the debt held by the public. And, as for children, I’m merely using your idol’s words against him.

BTW, I can understand why someone would call you a ‘child abuser.’

‘I go on the principle that a Public Debt is a Public curse and in a Republican Government a greater than in any other.’

— James Madison (1751-1836) Father of the Constitution, 4th President of the United States

‘It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.’

— Thomas Jefferson, Author of the Declaration of Independence, 3rd President of the U.S.

‘No pecuniary consideration is more urgent, than the regular redemption and discharge of the public debt: on none can delay be more injurious, or an economy of time more valuable.’

— George Washington (1732-1799) Father of the Country, 1st President of the United States

‘I regret, as much as any member, the unavoidable weight and duration of the burdens to be imposed; having never been a proselyte to the doctrine, that public debts are public benefits. I consider them, on the contrary, as evils which ought to be removed as fast as honor and justice will permit.’

— James Madison (1751-1836) Father of the Constitution, 4th President of the United States

‘I wish it were possible to obtain a single amendment to our Constitution. 1 would be willing to depend on that alone for the reduction of the administration of our Government to the genuine principles of its Constitution; I mean an additional article, taking from the federal Government the power of borrowing.’

— Thomas Jefferson, Author of the Declaration of Independence, 3rd President of the U.S.

‘Think what you do when you run in debt; you give to another power over your liberty.’

— Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) Statesman, Scientist, Inventor, Printer and Philosopher

‘I place economy among the first and most important of virtues, and public debt as the greatest of dangers to be feared…To preserve our independence we must not let our leaders load us with perpetual debt. If we can prevent the government from wasting the labours of the people under the pretence of caring for them, we will be wise.’

— Thomas Jefferson, Author of the Declaration of Independence, 3rd President of the U.S.

‘As parents, we can have no joy, knowing that this government is not sufficiently lasting to ensure any thing which we may bequeath to posterity: And by a plain method of argument, as we are running the next generation into debt, we ought to do the work of it, otherwise we use them meanly and pitifully. In order to discover the line of our duty rightly, we should take our children in our hand, and fix our station a few years farther into life; that eminence will present a prospect, which a few present fears and prejudices conceal from our sight.’

— Thomas Paine (1736-1809) Patriot, Author & Pamphleteer

‘There are two ways to enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.’

— John Adams, Second President of the United States and Patriot

‘As parents, we can have no joy, knowing that this government is not sufficiently lasting to ensure any thing which we may bequeath to posterity: And by a plain method of argument, as we are running the next generation into debt, we ought to do the work of it, otherwise we use them meanly and pitifully. In order to discover the line of our duty rightly, we should take our children in our hand, and fix our station a few years farther into life; that eminence will present a prospect, which a few present fears and prejudices conceal from our sight.’

— Thomas Paine (1736-1809) Patriot, Author & Pamphleteer

‘He that goes a borrowing goes a sorrowing.’

— Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) Statesman, Scientist, Inventor, Printer and Philosopher

‘To contract new debts is not the way to pay old ones.’

— George Washington (1732-1799) Father of the Country, 1st President of the United States

‘The mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately, by the grace of God.’

— Thomas Jefferson, Author of the Declaration of Independence, 3rd President of the U.S.

‘But with respect to future debt; would it not be wise and just for that nation to declare in the constitution they are forming that neither the legislature, nor the nation itself can validly contract more debt, than they may pay within their own age, or within the term of 19 years.’

— James Madison (1751-1836) Father of the Constitution, 4th President of the United States

‘We must have no carelessness in our dealings with public property or the expenditure of public money. Such a condition is characteristic of undeveloped people, or of a decadent generation.’

— Calvin Coolidge (1872-1933) 30th President of the United States

Resist We Much on September 27, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Math is hard and Jay’s just a stupid news reporter, so it’s no surprise that he isn’t bright enough to understand what would happen if 66 Senators vote against the debt ceiling increase, the way Senator Doofus M’Obama recommended that they vote.

Full faith and credit of the U.S., my asc.

Jaibones on September 27, 2013 at 12:17 AM

You need to learn the difference between the national debt and the debt held by the public.

Resist We Much on September 27, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Erm…no. Maybe try reading my post again? Or just stop posting about debt. Thanks.

righty45 on September 27, 2013 at 12:24 AM

Someone could say Dog Eater’s first name was “Barack” and if Carney thought that could be a problem he would say “No it isn’t”.

Bishop on September 26, 2013 at 10:07 PM

“I know at least three Baracks.”

steebo77 on September 27, 2013 at 12:31 AM

‘Cause he figured you wouldn’t have the balls to call him on it Wolfie

WryTrvllr on September 27, 2013 at 12:49 AM

Resist We Much on September 27, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Ya know…

Those are just a bunch of dead white guys. “Critical Race Theory” states the laws of Economics were designed to keep the black man down, especially a black president.

WryTrvllr on September 27, 2013 at 1:21 AM

I have always wondered if Blitzer had a normal IQ. I am still not convinced.

pat on September 27, 2013 at 1:34 AM

What I’d really like to know is, how does CNN get news shows done on time when they have to constantly pry their anchor lips off O’bozo’s a$$. And who gets that job anyway?

WryTrvllr on September 27, 2013 at 1:49 AM

Erm…no. Maybe try reading my post again? Or just stop posting about debt. Thanks.

righty45 on September 27, 2013 at 12:24 AM

One wonders if you consider unfunded liabilities a form of debt, and if so, was the 50% income tax increase hoisted onto the young adults of Illinois also not a burden?

And if you love debt so much, go preach it to the Cypriots and Polaks.

WryTrvllr on September 27, 2013 at 1:58 AM

More like righty22short

WryTrvllr on September 27, 2013 at 1:59 AM

You just know that Carney was raised on Mr. Rogers, Sesame Street, and Dr. Seuss.

For that matter, so was Blitzer.

Cleombrotus on September 27, 2013 at 5:52 AM

The president keeps using this word, “unprecedented.” I do not think it means what he thinks it means.

Inconceivable!

itsnotaboutme on September 27, 2013 at 6:09 AM

Americans deserve better.

Yes, they do.

No, they don’t. They voted Obama in twice. If they, the majority, were too stupid to understand what this man was then they absolutely deserve what they got. Unfortunately we, the minority voters, have to suffer right along with them.

Oldnuke on September 27, 2013 at 6:21 AM

All we had to do was look at his financial history. He bought a condo for 150,000 then within a few years he owed 240,000 on it and his credit card was declined in 2000 at the dem convention in LA by a car rental agency. If bill ayres hadn’t written Dreams from my father for him he would be broke.

tim c on September 27, 2013 at 6:37 AM

The president keeps using this word, “unprecedented.” I do not think it means what he thinks it means.

Obama thinks it means someone did something without his permission.

fogw on September 27, 2013 at 6:39 AM

Somebody said a while back that this IDIOT gets paid to lie. Surely this scum of the earth lowlife wouldn’t lie, would he?

tmgrant on September 27, 2013 at 7:41 AM

Carney, a liar, is tied to someone he has no differences with…I truly believe he believes Obama, because they have the same philosophy.
And it gets back to the infamous Kerry line…”I was for it before I was against it” (or was it vice versa, who cares it was a stupid remark).

right2bright on September 27, 2013 at 7:49 AM

It is good to see a post from Mary Katherine. I wish she posted more frequently, but since she started at HotAir it seems like we don’t get many post from her very often.

bluegill on September 26, 2013 at 10:54 PM

…and here I thought…I was going to miss it again!

KOOLAID2 on September 27, 2013 at 7:53 AM

You just know that Carney was raised on Mr. Rogers, Sesame Street, and Dr. Seuss.

For that matter, so was Blitzer.

Cleombrotus on September 27, 2013 at 5:52 AM

B was raised on those same (m)puppet shows. And seeing as how he’s so gifted at talking out of both sides of his mouth, I’d say they’ve all got their hands up each other’s backsides.
A disgusting Saturday morning clusterkid’s show for all of their fans.

onomo on September 27, 2013 at 8:08 AM

‘Moreover, it’s nonsensical to say that we are imposing that debt on to our children, since once we all die, the ownership of our debt will be passed onto them.

righty45 on September 26, 2013 at 11:43 PM’

Aren’t you sweet? You intend to bequeath to our children and future generations the incredible, extra-special, most noble gift of our debt. Sorry if this offends, but the Founding Fathers would agree with me: You are a most immoral person. They’d likewise want me to remind you of the old, but still quite relevant phrase: No taxation without representation.

Someone is going to have to pay the legacy of liabilities that you have decided would make a fabulous inheritance to some, who haven’t even had the privilege of being born. You WANT, WANT, WANT but you don’t want to pay for it. You vote for those that will give you all kinds of goodies; yet, you and they will be DEAD, DEAD, DEAD (fortunately, in some ways) when the bills come due. Thus, Americans, who were not represented when the debt-exploding schemes were cooked up, will be forced to pay for them.

If you wish to see just a few examples of how this Ponzi tax scheme is going to work, take a look at what will be demanded of future workers just to keep old fogies in the style to which they believe themselves entitled: ‘Lies’ About Social Security and Medicare Pandering Politicians Never Told You.

Shame on you.

Resist We Much on September 27, 2013 at 8:25 AM

If you could somehow roll Madonna, Ashley Dupre (Spitzer’s favored receptacle), and everyone whoever dated Dennis Rodman all into one colossal whore-bag, you would still not have as stupendous and monstrous of a gargantuan, reeking whore-bag as Jay Carney.

A combination detergent of sulphuric acid and highest grade petroleum based solvent applied with a fire hose under extra-high pressure, scrubbed off with titanium-bristled powered rotary brushes, and dried with the sun’s core-fire couldn’t get that festering dooker clean.

M240H on September 27, 2013 at 8:37 AM

Obama’s vote was political theater and strategy for later running for President.

Obama called Bush ‘Un-Patriotic’ for adding $4 trilion over an 8 year period during 9/11/01 and 2 wars….

He has since gone on to add OVER $6 Trillion in only 4 years, setting ‘monthly’, ‘annual’, & ‘total’ deficit-spending records along the way…aiding Al Qaeda – the perpetrators of 9/11/01 – take over Libya….arming Al Qaeda in Syria….helping the Terrorist Muslim Brotherhood take over Egypt….andhis 1st signed bill was a failed spending bill that cost $875 BILLION and contained over 7,000 pieces of DNC-sponsred pork! If Bush’s spending was ‘Un-Patriotic’ (helping rebuild NYC & going after terrorists & fighting dictators) then Obama’s addition of over $6 trillion in new debt – especially considering what he has used the money for – MUST be considered ‘Treasonously Fiscally Criminal’!

easyt65 on September 27, 2013 at 9:02 AM

“Pinocchio Nose Manufacturing Hits All Time High”….

hillsoftx on September 27, 2013 at 9:05 AM

Resist We Much on September 27, 2013 at 8:25 AM

You still don’t seem to get it. Can you try responding to my post directly instead of spamming quotes or calling me immoral? And if you can’t do that, can you please admit you have no idea what you’re talking about?

righty45 on September 27, 2013 at 9:53 AM

righty45 on September 26, 2013 at 11:43 PM’

You picked the wrong fight in taking on RWM. There is no better informed commenter in all of the blogosphere.

And “Borrowing from ourselves” does NOT change the fact that it must be repaid and, in truth, we are NOT borrowing from ourselves, we are borrowing from future revenue that comes in the form of taxes that must be paid by…future people, a.k.a., our children and grandchildren and beyond. So it’s irrelevant that it is “from ourselves” or from China in that sense, though borrowing from someone who does not have your best interest at heart can be a bit dicey too.

The more I think about it, the more I simply don’t know what point you were trying to make.

BillyWilly on September 27, 2013 at 10:43 AM

All we had to do was look at his financial history. He bought a condo for 150,000 then within a few years he owed 240,000 on it and his credit card was declined in 2000 at the dem convention in LA by a car rental agency. If bill ayres hadn’t written Dreams from my father for him he would be broke.

tim c on September 27, 2013 at 6:37 AM

With the LIV crowd that doesn’t matter, in fact if a political candidate is a complete f/u just like the LIV, it endears the politician even further. Remember, many LIV’s rejected Romney because he wasn’t enough “like them”.

Many on the left believe that a rich man gets his money one of two ways, -by stealing it, or inheriting it from someone who stole it.

slickwillie2001 on September 27, 2013 at 10:54 AM

You still don’t seem to get it. Can you try responding to my post directly instead of spamming quotes or calling me immoral? And if you can’t do that, can you please admit you have no idea what you’re talking about?

righty45 on September 27, 2013 at 9:53 AM

Having back read all the posts, at no point did a coherent statement on debt come from you.
This is why none of us can make heads or tails out of your thought process.

Why don’t you try to restate you opinion re: debt, explicitly and concisely, and then we can deconstruct it for you slowly, so that you might understand that regardless of to whom the money is owed, it must be repaid and is therefore a burden.

Unless you just don’t get the idea of generational theft.

WryTrvllr on September 27, 2013 at 2:39 PM