White House explains HHS report’s rationale: You can’t compare wormy apples to fresh and delicious ones, obviously

posted at 7:21 pm on September 25, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

A short yet painful addendum to my earlier post on the Department of Health and Human Service’s new report excitedly detailing the “lower than expected” premiums that Americans will soon be paying under ObamaCare — which, of course, is just a fancy, roundabout way of saying that premiums will still be increasing for many Americans, just not by quite as much as they once projected. As Avik Roy pointed out, the report doesn’t actually include price comparisons to current rates, which makes the entire exercise kind of useless in terms of providing practical information for American consumers.

In response to a question from Fox’s Ed Henry about why today’s HHS’s report wasn’t based on more of a straight-up “apples-to-apples” comparison of what American consumers will pay for their premiums between this year and next year, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney had an… er, creative perspective to offer. Via NRO:

There were numerous projections about what these exchanges — which, by the way, did not exist before, including the multitude of plans that will not be available to consumers that did not, that were not in place before. So, obviously, this is not an apples-to-apples. It’s a, you know, apple full of worms compared to an apple that’s fresh and delicious…

…That literally makes no sense.


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…That literally makes no sense.

You’re still expecting sense from this guy?

Really?

AZCoyote on September 25, 2013 at 7:25 PM

Yet progressives are applauding! We really do live in an age when choco-rations are rising.

rob verdi on September 25, 2013 at 7:25 PM

Are you smarter then a fifth grader?

Electrongod on September 25, 2013 at 7:31 PM

…That literally makes no sense.

Only if you try to use facts and numbers to explain things.

Gatsu on September 25, 2013 at 7:32 PM

It’s a, you know, apple full of worms compared to an apple that’s fresh and delicious…

He actually said that?
Man, I need to bookmark that little tidbit, that will come in VERY handy in short order, that I am sure of

JusDreamin on September 25, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Why even bother with a rationale? Why not just tell it like it is, “We’re the Government. Chief Justice Roberts says we can make you buy any damn thing we want. So sit down and shutup!

wkh on September 25, 2013 at 7:34 PM

Which one has the worms again, Jay?

PXCharon on September 25, 2013 at 7:34 PM

Li’l Jay musta got his ass whupped daily in jr high.

Akzed on September 25, 2013 at 7:36 PM

Derp Carney…

aptly named Carney types try to get marks to blow money on bric-a-brac that is lower quality than what you get on a competitive market based mostly on ego gratification.

Well done Donks.

harlekwin15 on September 25, 2013 at 7:37 PM

You have to feel sorry for the guy. Look at the kind of lies and excuses he has to come up with on a moment’s notice.

obladioblada on September 25, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Dennis Miller
Maybe Democrats will eventually turn on Obamacare when they realize you might need a Photo I.D. to participate in the program.

…………………….
Gotta love him.

pambi on September 25, 2013 at 7:43 PM

“On behalf of the millions of working men and women we represent and the families they support, we can no longer stand silent in the face of elements of the Affordable Care Act that will destroy the very health and wellbeing of our members along with millions of other hardworking Americans.”~James P. Hoffa, et. al., AFL-CIO

davidk on September 25, 2013 at 7:43 PM

What’s worse than biting into a fresh and delicious apple and finding a worm?Finding half of a worm.

docflash on September 25, 2013 at 7:45 PM

…is Jay… Senator Senile’s son?

KOOLAID2 on September 25, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Worms:

‘Family glitch’ in health law could be painful

Kelly Kennedy, USA TODAY 11:55 p.m. EDT September 23, 2013

It could leave up to 500,000 children without coverage and cost some families thousands of dollars.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/09/23/aca-family-glitch-issues/2804017/

davidk on September 25, 2013 at 7:49 PM

And I’m an expert about worms, ever since my Pa took me down to the fishin hole.

Ted Torgerson on September 25, 2013 at 7:52 PM

It’s a, you know, apple full of worms compared to an apple that’s fresh and delicious…

The truth will out. “It’s” = ObamneyCare

AH_C on September 25, 2013 at 7:56 PM

Worms Lies:

Obama: ‘Free Contraceptive Care…May Make Up What She’s Spending on Premiums;’ Target: Pill Still $9 Per Month

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/obama-free-contraceptive-care-may-make-what-she-s-spending-premiums

davidk on September 25, 2013 at 8:07 PM

Li’l Jay musta got his ass whupped daily in jr high.

Akzed on September 25, 2013 at 7:36 PM

Yup, I’ve heard that to this very day he refuses to wear underwear.

slickwillie2001 on September 25, 2013 at 8:14 PM

And I guarantee 99% of the WH press corpse nodded sagely in agreement, then scribbled furiously in their notebooks about how wonderful and dreamy the Preezy is….

wytshus on September 25, 2013 at 8:21 PM

That’s what Lawrenceville, Yale and a journalism career does for you: nonsense.

MTF on September 25, 2013 at 8:21 PM

Dennis Miller
Maybe Democrats will eventually turn on Obamacare when they realize you might need a Photo I.D. to participate in the program.

…………………….
Gotta love him.

pambi on September 25, 2013 at 7:43 PM

AND, PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP.

Not kidding.

The raaaacists!

Resist We Much on September 25, 2013 at 8:28 PM

Li’l Jay musta got his ass whupped daily in jr high.

Akzed on September 25, 2013 at 7:36 PM

It’s a safe bet he knew all too well what the inside of a locker looked like. And the girls’ room.

CurtZHP on September 25, 2013 at 8:33 PM

…Jay got snuggied a lot!…doesn’t he look like he got picked up by the elastic in his underwear…and bounced a lot?

KOOLAID2 on September 25, 2013 at 8:54 PM

I have to admit: I thought the headline was just your typical Hot Gas snark.

Then I actually read the article.

We are doomed. DOOMED, I TELL YOU!!!!

Let It Burn.

arik1969 on September 25, 2013 at 8:56 PM

I was promised that I could keep my orange and my wife could keep her peach. We don’t like apples, with or without worms.

htom on September 25, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Moochelle tried a simliar spin today comparing store-bought lobsters wasting away the weeks in that tank to fresh, delicious ones caught that morning and flown straight to her WH cauldron by charter jet when their dog isn’t riding in it.

viking01 on September 25, 2013 at 9:00 PM

That literally makes no sense.

Standard fare from Jay ‘Baghdad’ Carney.

GarandFan on September 25, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Jay Carney has elevated mendacious and sycophantic drivel to an art form. He is impervious to both fact and logic. The rare creature deprived of both mind and conscience; amazing.

EA_MAN on September 25, 2013 at 10:03 PM

We had a fresh delicious one, they gave us one with worms… and charged us more.

petunia on September 25, 2013 at 11:03 PM

We had a fresh delicious one, they gave us one with worms… and charged us more.

petunia on September 25, 2013 at 11:03 PM

…. and the IRS / Benedict Roberts forced us to buy it.

viking01 on September 25, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Li’l Jay musta got his ass whupped daily in jr high.

Akzed on September 25, 2013 at 7:36 PM

And had his lunch money taken lots of times, too.

jackmac on September 26, 2013 at 6:34 AM

so the short version is:

“All your apples belong to us”?

todler on September 26, 2013 at 9:05 AM

I read that twice.

I still don’t know what he said.

The Schaef on September 26, 2013 at 10:14 AM

You know what’s worse than finding a worm in your apple?
.
.
.
Finding half a worm.

mrt721 on September 26, 2013 at 11:51 AM

I can just imagine the conversations between Carney and his wife, ABC’s Claire Shipman:

“Honey, did you take out the garbage?”

“In it’s present form, I would not use the term garbage. I would refer you to the city hotline for garbage collection.”

“But did you take out the garbage?”

“I can assure you that adequate consideration has been given to all the variable in the equation.”

“Did you take out the damn garbage?!”

“Again, I would refer you to my previous statements.”

Colony14 on September 26, 2013 at 8:57 PM