Video: McCain delivers the Democratic response to Cruz

posted at 2:02 pm on September 25, 2013 by Allahpundit

That headline is Justin Amash’s joke, not mine, but it’s not much of an exaggeration. This is, essentially, the Democratic response: ObamaCare was duly passed, it was an issue in a presidential campaign that the GOP lost, end of story — whether or not there are 51 or even 60 votes in the Senate to defund this thing. He actually used the phrase “elections have consequences,” which must be the first time a member of the *minority* party has ever tossed that into a debate. Like Ramesh Ponnuru says, weren’t Ted Cruz and Mike Lee elected too?

Watching this was the first time I felt that he might be serious about retiring in 2016. The reaction to it on Twitter among righties, even those who have criticized Cruz for his “defund” strategy, was more uniformly, stridently negative than the response to any other display of maverick-iness in recent memory. And understandably so: There’s no reason for McCain to go out and carry Obama’s and Reid’s water on this except his own antipathy to Cruz, Paul, and the other “wacko birds.” It’s not merely the betrayal, it’s the pettiness of it. More so than even Mitch McConnell or Boehner, I think he’s become public enemy number one among Republicans for tea partiers. He’ll have a ferocious primary challenge in three years, and if he intends to defeat it, at some point he’ll have to start making nice with the Cruz/Paul contingent. I think he’d rather quit and enjoy the rest of his term sticking thumbs in their eyes.

“Elections have consequences” was only half the speech, though. The other half has Maverick in high dudgeon over Cruz wondering yesterday whether the opponents of his “defund” strategy would have also, ahem, stood up to Hitler. Given how many interventionists there are on the other side of him on this issue, I’m … reasonably sure that most would have. It’s a lame Godwinian flourish, although RINO-haters no doubt will consider the comparison insulting to Neville Chamberlain, if anything. But seriously: After more than 21 hours of Cruz talking about ObamaCare, the key part of his speech that McCain feels obliged to put front and center with America watching is … a throwaway line about Nazi appeasers? This is what Maverick decided he needed to do with his precious moments on the floor and his credibility as a so-called “reasonable Republican”? Retirement can’t come too soon.


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Schadenfreude on September 26, 2013 at 1:27 AM

Boy, you guys are really into the circular firing squad thing, huh? Fun to watch, but sad. Last gasps of a dying irrelevant breedd. Wot a turdfest this sewer is.

lostmotherland on September 25, 2013 at 11:05 PM

It’s too bad, but not surprising that you are too slow to see the beginning of the end. Eventually these fine people that you attempt to mock will refuse to fund your teat-sucking of you and yours and the revolution will begin.

Slurp up. Soon it will end, redshirt.

kim roy on September 26, 2013 at 1:51 AM

Go away you Democrat loser, McCain. I am sorry that I ever voted for you.

At one time, Prohibition was the law of the land. It was wrong and it was repealed.

At one time, Slavery was the law of the land. It was wrong and it was ended by a civil war.

At one time, taxation without representation was the law of the land. It was wrong and it was ended by a revolution.

Would you have left slavery in place, McCain? Would you have left Prohibition in place? Would you have left taxation without representation in place just because it was the law of the land?

Just like those laws, Obamacare is reprehensible on its face and is destructive to both freedom and our society. Thus, while Obamacare is the law of the land, it is wrong and it must be ended by any means possible.

Theophile on September 26, 2013 at 2:07 AM

J. D. Hayworth has a lot to answer for. His challenge to John McCain was horribly incompetent. If not, this would not be happening.

David Blue on September 26, 2013 at 2:34 AM

McCain and all the other rinos are being targeted by true conservatives. Let the traitors talk while they can. Their days will be over soon.

rodguy911 on September 26, 2013 at 4:46 AM

This reasoning by John McCain wrt the 2012 GOP loss is bizarre …

How does the R/R ticket, which is headed by Romneycare (the father of Obamacare) … Romneycare, who told America during Campaign 2012 that he still thought Romneycare was a ‘good idea’ … Romneycare, whose Adviser spoke of Campaign promises being erased by Etch-A-Sketch …

how does this Romneycare Candidate who **says** he will repeal and replace the hated Obamacare, bring Conservatives to the Polls in big enough numbers to defeat the 3 opponents: DEM ticket, DEM Media, and DEM Fraud?

Does anybody here think that Romneycare was a sufficiently CREDIBLE Nominee to defeat even a MARXIST?

exodus2011 on September 26, 2013 at 5:23 AM

The country can survive another 3 years of Obama. I’m not sure we can survive another 3 years of Republicans like McCain. Arizona, please recall him.

NotEasilyFooled on September 26, 2013 at 6:31 AM

Sen. John McPutz

BigAlSouth on September 26, 2013 at 6:49 AM

Boy, you guys are really into the circular firing squad thing, huh? Fun to watch, but sad. Last gasps of a dying irrelevant breedd. Wot a turdfest this sewer is.

lostmotherland on September 25, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Yawn. Another functionally illiterate troll…

zoyclem on September 26, 2013 at 6:49 AM

Thank you Arizona. Thank you GOP, remember we put this clown up for President. We in the past tense, I’m set to abandon this party.

Rancher on September 26, 2013 at 7:15 AM

McCain is a RINO with a capital R

why not show some of the dignity and honor you had back in 1968 you old liberal fart and just change your party to D, as thats how you vote and support

When is McCain going to realize he is the darling of the left only as long as he attacks conservatives. So i ask McCain how all that support from the left media helped you in 2008 election?

This guy is filthy rich and out of touch, do us all a favor and go retire.

The only time McCain realizes he is a REpublican is at reelection time.
Term limits should be for senators and congressman also.

sniffles1999 on September 26, 2013 at 7:23 AM

People do not realize, that the more social programs the govt dreams up to guarantee career politicans get reelected

THe higher taxes those with jobs will have to pay for the entitilement crowd.

i say

IF OBAMACARE IS SO GREAT WHY ARE THOSE WHO VOTED IT INTO LAW NOT ON IT????

Politicians have the ultimate Cadillac Health plans.

sniffles1999 on September 26, 2013 at 7:26 AM

You have every reason to proud of the invitation. I have always assumed that you are a hard working lady for the Republican Party. It takes a lot of people to get someone into that office. For me there is just too much wrong with the party.

Cindy Munford on September 25, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Thank you but I didn’t get any invitations requiring a ball gown as there was no ball to go to. I don’t work for the Republican Party and was not employed by Team Romney. I am a volunteer in the true meaning of the word, not a “paid volunteer”. I suppose I should take it as a compliment that so many people assume otherwise.

Buy Danish on September 26, 2013 at 8:11 AM

McCain is among the most disgusting and repulsive. He either doesn’t understand what this intrusive, expensive law has done to the citizens or he simply doesn’t care. Being a wealthy, elitist politico he stands above the fray and the world of regular people. I’m afraid he has lived too long in the political sewer and is no longer sensitive to the stench.

rplat on September 26, 2013 at 8:22 AM

McCain & Cronyn are pi$$ed at Cruz for not kissing the GOP ‘Estabishment Maffia’ ring and falling into line.

Cronyn admitted yesterday on Hannity that they are:

1) Petrified of what the Liberals will say about how the GOP is willing to shut down the govt. They are too stupid to understand that the House just funded the entire govt EXCEPT for Obamacare, which means the Liberals – not the GOP – are willing to shut the government down for Obamacare, a law EVERYONE knows will destroy our economy & that is bad for this nation.

2) Placing all of their hopes…along with America’s futurs / economic survival on the HOPE of taking back the Senate in 2014 so they can pass legislation to repeal Obamacare…knowing this plan will eventually fail – if they get this far – because Obama will only veto that legislation.

The only REAL way to get rid of Obamacare before it is implemented is to act now…McCain’s/Cronyn’s/McConnell’s plan will fail….they know it – Cronyn admitted it yesterday.

These ’3-Horsemen of the Establishment’ are pi$$ed because Cruz bruised their infantile egos by daring to step out & stand up for what is right rather than worrying about what doing so will mean to his own job. They are pi$$ed because in doing so he may have jeopardized THEIR jobs. They are too stupid to understand what THEY are doing (or not doing) – by putting their own careers above what is best for the nation, their integrity, courage, etc…they have just done FAR MORE to place their jobs in jeopardy than Cruz has done!

$CREW McCain, Cronyn, & McConnell – time for them to go, and time to DESTROY the ‘Establishment’!

easyt65 on September 26, 2013 at 8:28 AM

Our Founding Fathers intended service in government to be like ‘Jury Duty’. Americans were supposed to leave their fields/jobs for a time, serve in office for a short term, then return home, handing the job off to the next elected rep. They warned us all about the dangers of allowing the process to morph into where we would have ‘career politicians’ who would end up governing their own wealth and minding their own success. We did not take that warning to heart & now we see the personification of their warning in McConnell, McCain, & Cronyn!

easyt65 on September 26, 2013 at 8:31 AM

Always the RINO. I think you hate conservatives as much as McCain.

bw222 on September 25, 2013 at 8:20 PM

Aw shucks, I missed this stupidity. You know what? I voted on Election Day. For the Republican nominee. In the final analysis, nothing counts more than casting a vote. I did my best to stop Obama’s re-election. How about you?

Buy Danish on September 26, 2013 at 8:57 AM

Boy, you guys are really into the circular firing squad thing, huh? Fun to watch, but sad. Last gasps of a dying irrelevant breedd. Wot a turdfest this sewer is.

lostmotherland on September 25, 2013 at 11:05 PM

No, it just means that conservatives try and clean the lying, filthy scum out of our party. You continue to love on your scum, especially the criminal ones since I have NEVER seen liberal crap removed from the party (via primary or recall). I guess that means you’re content wallowing with your turds.

dominigan on September 26, 2013 at 9:45 AM

lostmotherland on September 25, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Hello, MJBrutus. Still using your sock puppet, I see…even after Hawkdriver nailed you.

You’re pathetic.

kingsjester on September 26, 2013 at 9:47 AM

So, I voted for Romney (not the best man), and he lost. Does that mean that I should burrow up and wait till the next election? NO! I also voted for Sen. Cruz, and he won. There are other branches of the government, and I totally reject McCains theory that once Obama won, we needed to shut up and accept the consequences of the election. No, McCain, I intend to actively support the Senator who won, and who happens to represent my viewpoints. Cruz has chosen to push back, and McCain can’t take it.

mobydutch on September 26, 2013 at 10:01 AM

Some times the consequences of elections result in recalls. See Colorado. Those election consequences should never result in lying down and rolling over when the policies of an admin damage the country. Slavery was once the law of the land as well as prohibition. They were opposed and repealed. That’s the way it is supposed to work. Sitting down and shutting up is not an option. They must have something really shi&*ie on this guy.

Kissmygrits on September 26, 2013 at 10:21 AM

I guess this is the only thread still on the subject of what’s happening in the GOP senate. Does anybody know what the side that is running from Cruz/Lee are up to? They may be simply hiding because Cornyn is taking no calls on any of his numbers listed on his website. Same with McConnell’s DC phone.

DanMan on September 26, 2013 at 10:23 AM

I’ve been reading Drudge, Peter King has made some very disturbing accusations against Cruz supporters. Of course, he mentioned the vile phone calls he received. He accepts no responsibility for his comments during the past week about slandering Cruz. Then, he goes on to say he doesn’t think Cruz is responsible for his followers, yet he continues to slam Cruz by saying he is a false leader and his followers are from the dark side. They, the elites, want us to just disappear. Also, I think hotair is trying to change the subject. People are fed up, and I don’t know where it will lead.

mobydutch on September 26, 2013 at 11:10 AM

Something to pass along

Every time some liberal media or Democrat or RINO says

its the LAW OF THE lAND

Remind them of these examples of ITS THE LAW OF THE LAND

once slavery was THE LAW OF THE LAND
once women were not allowed to vote because IT WAS THE LAW OF THE LAND
once being Japanese American would get you put into an internment camp because IT WAS THE LAW OF THE LAND

Once owning gold coins was illegial because IT WAS THE LAW OF THE LAND

once segregation by race was legal because IT WAS THE LAW OF THE LAND
once the govt made it illegial to own alcohol because IT WAS THE LAW OF THE LAND

sniffles1999 on September 26, 2013 at 12:39 PM

From: metroryder on September 25, 2013 at 7:50 PM

The prevailing wisdom in the conservative world is that Obamacare must be stopped now, or it will become a disastrous entitlement program that can never be reversed.

[This is NOT the prevailing thought, if it were, then all these RINOs would be on board. It should be stopped, NOW!]

I fully grasp the problems and challenges of reducing or taking away entitlement programs for the masses. It’s been tried over and over with welfare goodies, food stamps, housing programs and all the other give-away ideas that have resulted from government power gone beserk.

[Yeah, BUT, this is totally BIGGER! Try 1/6 of the US Economy to be a little more precise! And, I don’t think you GRASP this topic.]

Unfortunately, the concerns with Obamacare should have been addressed before the bill was signed into law. But they weren’t and we have to deal with it. It cannot be stopped at this point, but it has a solid chance of being repealed in the future after the horrors of implementation and reality become clear in the minds of most Americans. My brother, who is a committed Democrat, is already expressing doubts about Obamacare. He is 66 years of age and is beginning to understand the effects Obamacare will have on the elderly as well as his children and grandchildren. He is not a happy camper and I believe that is true with many middle-aged and older Democrats in the country.

[Somehow, I seriously doubt if this gets rolling, it can be repealed. Democrats will now and forever just say, “all it needs is to be fixed”, and there we have the start to a perpetual program that was a huge debacle. Here’s a metaphor for you, would you rather try to put out a small Camp fire OR a big Forest Fire? So, let’s nip this sucker in the bud NOW! ]

-west

mr_west on September 26, 2013 at 1:29 PM

From: metroryder on September 25, 2013 at 7:50 PM

The prevailing wisdom in the conservative world is that Obamacare must be stopped now, or it will become a disastrous entitlement program that can never be reversed.

From mr_west on September 26, 2013 at 1:29 PM

[This is NOT the prevailing thought, if it were, then all these RINOs would be on board. It should be stopped, NOW!]

I say RINOS would not have to be on board. They are not conservatives and that is who I mentioned.

From mr_west on September 26, 2013 at 1:29 PM

[Yeah, BUT, this is totally BIGGER! Try 1/6 of the US Economy to be a little more precise! And, I don’t think you GRASP this topic.]

Me thinks you are bordering on the edge of hysteria. Calm down and take a pill. You are implying that the Republicans can never get control of both houses of Congress. If that could happen, and we have more Republicans in Congress like Cruz, Lee, and others, I see a very good chance of repealing Obamacare. It would depend on the truly conservative Republicans to make it happen.

metroryder on September 26, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Not all entitlement programs are poisonous in nature. Those that were designed as a safety net for the masses only become toxic due to the negligence and malpractice of the politicians we designate to be caretakers of the programs. We are quick to demonize the programs, but we become totally complacent when we need to hold politicians accountable for their complacency as caretakers.

Social Security, which I hesitate to call an entitlement program, is a prime example of a compassionate and worthy government program out of control. The program is rife with fraud and abuse. Always has been from the start. However, the program is still alive and will be for years to come unless something else replaces it. If the politicians were serious about dealing with the fraud and abuse, and serious about tweaking the system in terms of retirement age and disability requirements, the program could likely survive for decades to come without the fear of collapse.

metroryder on September 25, 2013 at 7:50 PM

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It is impossible for government to administer ANY social services, without waste, fraud, and corruption.
It is impossible for government to administer ANY social services, without having them regulate (that means ‘control’) the most personal decisions of your life.

Those two statements are ‘axiomatic’.

The more government does for people, the EXPONENTIALLY more they do TO people.
.

Unfortunately, the concerns with Obamacare should have been addressed before the bill was signed into law. But they weren’t and we have to deal with it.

metroryder on September 25, 2013 at 7:50 PM

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Nope, sorry, no WAY, not-a-chance, … had to pass it to see what was in it.
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It cannot be stopped at this point, but it has a solid chance of being repealed in the future after the horrors of implementation and reality become clear in the minds of most Americans. My brother, who is a committed Democrat, is already expressing doubts about Obamacare. He is 66 years of age and is beginning to understand the effects Obamacare will have on the elderly as well as his children and grandchildren. He is not a happy camper and I believe that is true with many middle-aged and older Democrats in the country.

metroryder on September 25, 2013 at 7:50 PM

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It still can be stopped, but the implications are horrendous.

Either living life on the ‘terms-of-condition’ mandated by “Obamacare” (I hate calling it that) is a lesser evil than going to civil war over it, or it isn’t.
That’s a decision each American citizen will have to make for them self.

listens2glenn on September 26, 2013 at 4:44 PM

[Somehow, I seriously doubt if this gets rolling, it can be repealed. Democrats will now and forever just say, “all it needs is to be fixed”, and there we have the start to a perpetual program that was a huge debacle. Here’s a metaphor for you, would you rather try to put out a small Camp fire OR a big Forest Fire? So, let’s nip this sucker in the bud NOW! ]

-west

mr_west on September 26, 2013 at 1:29 PM

.
Institutionalized slavery “got rolling” for many years, and was still ‘repealed’. Even in spite of a Supreme Court decision in it’s favor.

But obviously we were ALL hoping it wouldn’t come to that extreme.

listens2glenn on September 26, 2013 at 4:56 PM

I’ve been reading Drudge, Peter King has made some very disturbing accusations against Cruz supporters. Of course, he mentioned the vile phone calls he received. He accepts no responsibility for his comments during the past week about slandering Cruz. Then, he goes on to say he doesn’t think Cruz is responsible for his followers, yet he continues to slam Cruz by saying he is a false leader and his followers are from the dark side. They, the elites, want us to just disappear. Also, I think hotair is trying to change the subject. People are fed up, and I don’t know where it will lead.

mobydutch on September 26, 2013 at 11:10 AM

High fives on the left?

slickwillie2001 on September 26, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Slick- you are right. Probably high fives at this moment.

mobydutch on September 26, 2013 at 5:38 PM

A lesson well learned by your election right POS McCain?

F_This on September 26, 2013 at 8:24 PM

the first problem are the politicians, you can swap all D for R and all R for D and nothing is going to change.
the second problem is the bureaucrats that are the office help, you get rid of the rats but the mice are still there.

RonK on September 27, 2013 at 5:45 AM

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