Uh oh: D.C. ObamaCare exchange announces website won’t be able to calculate subsidies until November

posted at 8:41 pm on September 25, 2013 by Allahpundit

Read it now so that you know what Boehner and McConnell are talking about next week if/when they start pounding the table for a one-year delay for the individual mandate. The more smoke we see coming from the exchanges, the stronger that case becomes.

Right, Mark Pryor?

While the D.C. Health Link will launch a Web site on October 1, shoppers will not have access to the their premium prices until mid-November. The delay comes after the District marketplace discovered “a high error rate” in calculating the tax credits that low- and middle-income people will use to purchase insurance on the marketplace.

The insurance marketplaces, if working as plan, are supposed to spit out an estimate for a tax credit after a shopper enters in some basic information about where she lives and how much she earns. In the District, that won’t happen next month. Instead, the eligibility determination will be made “off-line by experts” by early November…

A spokesman for the D.C Health Benefit Link tells my colleague Lena Sun that this glitch is specific to the District’s marketplace, and separate from reports on a similar challenge facing the federal marketplace.

It’s “separate” in the sense that the agencies building the local and federal marketplaces are different, but as evidence that O-Care’s not ready for prime time, they’re very much the same. The punchline here, as Ed notes via e-mail, is that WaPo was touting the D.C. exchange for small businesses just two days ago as a model of preparedness while federal administrators were busy struggling to get their own exchanges up and running by October 1. That in itself was a joke because, as Ed explained on Monday, D.C.’s a small market where the vast, vast majority already have insurance. If any jurisdiction should be ready to roll on launch day, it’s that one. Instead, the logistics of calculating subsidies for individual enrollees are evidently so daunting that Health Link had no choice but to absorb the humiliation of announcing this postponement. Imagine how tremendous the political pressure must have been from Obama’s O-Care deputies on D.C. to work out these bugs before ObamaCare opponents had another tale of disarray to spread. And still, they couldn’t figure things out. The result: A new black eye for O-Care on the very day Ted Cruz is in the news for his big anti-ObamaCare floor speech. The fact that it was Ezra Klein’s overwhelmingly pro-ObamaCare “WonkBlog” that broke the news is just icing on the cake.

Big question now: If D.C.’s in as bad a shape as this, what shape are other exchanges that need to serve bigger, more complicated markets in? I wonder if Obama and Reid might entertain a GOP demand to delay the law for awhile simply because the potential political headache of a disastrous October 1 rollout has gotten too likely and too large. They don’t want the uninsured trying to sign up next week and then getting frustrated and giving up when the websites don’t work correctly. At this point, maybe it’s worth the risk of putting the exchanges off for awhile to work out the bugs, even if that means giving the GOP more time to build grassroots opposition to the law.

Oh, by the way: Bloomberg News revealed this morning that, for the first time in his presidency, Obama’s favorable rating (which is distinct from his job approval) is now underwater. Think he’s primed right now for a big ObamaCare clusterfark in October?


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Uh oh: D.C. ObamaCare exchange announces website won’t be able to calculate subsidies until November

November of what year?

You forgot to say what year.

predator on September 25, 2013 at 8:43 PM

….Smart Power!

KOOLAID2 on September 25, 2013 at 8:44 PM

…pivot!
golf!

KOOLAID2 on September 25, 2013 at 8:45 PM

….clusterfark!

KOOLAID2 on September 25, 2013 at 8:46 PM

I go to Blue Cross and they say…
Come back later..

Electrongod on September 25, 2013 at 8:46 PM

I thought I read today that the DC exchange was up and running with no problems…uh oh! Is the State Run Media lying to us..?

d1carter on September 25, 2013 at 8:46 PM

….Smart Power!

KOOLAID2 on September 25, 2013 at 8:44 PM

The people at this blog could do a better job of running the country than 99.9% of the idiots in D.C.

predator on September 25, 2013 at 8:47 PM

And libfreeordie has been ranting all day that no one was paying attention to Glorius Exchanges.

Ha ha.

gwelf on September 25, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Fund Obamacare so everyone can see how bad it is and demand repeal.

rbj on September 25, 2013 at 8:49 PM

I hate to say it but at this point I wouldn’t ask to delay a thing. As a matter of fact, I would fight, in court, the delays that Obama has announced based on inequality of enforcement of this fantastic law of the land.

Cindy Munford on September 25, 2013 at 8:50 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Resist We Much on September 25, 2013 at 8:50 PM

The more the GOP screams and does all it can to prevent people from signing on to Obamacare, the more people want to sign on.
This is equivalent to when a dad yells and screams at his teenage daughter not to date the high school football QB. The more he screams, the more the girl gets drawn to the QB.
Americans know where the GOP stands with Obamacare. Allow it to launch without obstruction and then attack it if or once it starts showing signals of failure.

loveofcountry on September 25, 2013 at 8:51 PM

I guess like with the teleprompters our Reich now even has the computers in revolt.

viking01 on September 25, 2013 at 8:53 PM

People, this is just a cover in the ongoing Debt Ceiling/Defund Obama Care debate. If the actual cost of an Obama Care plan became public it would undermine all of the theater going on in DC now. We simply can’t have the real world costs being made public right now can we?

John McCain and all of his “investments” would take a really big hit.

Johnnyreb on September 25, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Idiocracy is now…

CPT. Charles on September 25, 2013 at 8:53 PM

When does this nation ever get rid of a “program” like this once it is implemented? We haven’t, that I know of. If this tree takes root, I fear it will simply grow and grow and grow.

predator on September 25, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Why the heck would you want to delay? It’s Obama and the democrats mess. If you can’t get rid of it completely, let the storm happen.

traye on September 25, 2013 at 8:54 PM

They’re bombarding Colorado with misleading ads advising people to sign up on Oct. 1st without mentioning ACA, ObamaCare or the word exchange. I loathe these totalitarian POS.

jawkneemusic on September 25, 2013 at 8:55 PM

I despise this administration.

locomotivebreath1901 on September 25, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Allow it to launch without obstruction and then attack it if or once it starts showing signals of failure.

loveofcountry on September 25, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Lenin & Uncle Joe Stalin would have appreciated your confidence.

… as would Mussolini, Pol Pot, Fidel Castro, Robert Mugabe and Marcus Garvey.

Maybe you’ll get a free admiral’s hat to strut about in like Marcus Garvey?

viking01 on September 25, 2013 at 8:56 PM

predator on September 25, 2013 at 8:54 PM

But, on the other hand, we could just L.I.B.

predator on September 25, 2013 at 8:56 PM

The delay comes after the District marketplace discovered “a high error rate”

That’s why the plan is called Obamacare. He’s known for getting high and making errors. We should instead call it the “Obama eff-up factor.”

Wino on September 25, 2013 at 8:58 PM

loveofcountry on September 25, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Pray tell, what country are you from?

Barred on September 25, 2013 at 8:59 PM

…Thank you Justice Roberts!
…what’s under your Robe?

KOOLAID2 on September 25, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Hi! boys and girls. Can you say “train wreck!”?

GarandFan on September 25, 2013 at 9:00 PM

Enforce the mess as written. Let the f$$#er collapse.

El_Terrible on September 25, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Dont think Obama hasn’t hired the best and the brightest programmers to make sure this exchange works properly Oct 1st.

They are leaking rumors of software issues in order to lower the bar so to speak. And the GOP is falling for it.

loveofcountry on September 25, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Uh oh: D.C. ObamaCare exchange announces website won’t be able to calculate subsidies until November

November of what year?

You forgot to say what year.

predator on September 25, 2013 at 8:43 PM

The Magic Healthball says… Ask Again Later.

Ukiah on September 25, 2013 at 9:03 PM

…Thank you Justice Roberts!
…what’s under your Robe?

KOOLAID2 on September 25, 2013 at 8:59 PM

I suspect pink knickers with a hammer and sickle on them and a stowage belt for, er, power tools….

viking01 on September 25, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Well, we should certainly fund this right away. This is going to save this country!

Chris of Rights on September 25, 2013 at 9:03 PM

RWM for threadwinner.

ha
slow…clap

*spit double spit*

can_con on September 25, 2013 at 9:04 PM

$328 a month for affordable healthcare insurance that doesn’t cover anything? REPEAL should be our rally cry from now until 2016.

El_Terrible on September 25, 2013 at 9:04 PM

loveofcountry on September 25, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Pray tell, what country are you from?

Barred on September 25, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Considering its O’Commiecare groupie stance on another thread my guess would be Cuba.

viking01 on September 25, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Dont think Obama hasn’t hired the best and the brightest programmers to make sure this exchange works properly Oct 1st.

They are leaking rumors of software issues in order to lower the bar so to speak. And the GOP is falling for it.

loveofcountry on September 25, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Their strategy is to… make it look like a disaster everyone believes it to be to do what again? Why wouldn’t Obama want it looking flawless at this point considering the damage it’s doing to his second term? Oh wait, this is his master plan for the single payer system right? Showing just how efficient government can be…

Ukiah on September 25, 2013 at 9:05 PM

They are leaking rumors of software issues in order to lower the bar so to speak. And the GOP is falling for it.

loveofcountry on September 25, 2013 at 9:02 PM

What? In other words, they are not ready.

Barred on September 25, 2013 at 9:06 PM

You can’t make me sign up for the “marketplace” with a gun to my head. Not Oct, 1, not ever.

Take your plan and shove it.

wolly4321 on September 25, 2013 at 9:09 PM

From The Corner:

House Staffers Warned Not to Enroll in Exchanges

Even with the subsidies, members of Congress and their staff will still have to get their health insurance through the exchange markets, which is prompting all kinds of confusion on Capitol Hill.

In an ominous sign today, all House staffers received an email from the chief administrative officer of the House, Dan Strodel, warning them not to enroll in the exchanges.

“This is a reminder that while the health care exchanges created under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ACA) will be open for enrollment on October 1st, Members and staff are advised that they should not enroll until further guidance and clarification is provided,” the e-mail says.

A request for more information about why this warning was issued has not been returned.

These people really do not know what they are doing.

INC on September 25, 2013 at 9:14 PM

What? In other words, they are not ready.

Barred on September 25, 2013 at 9:06 PM

The man’s presidency is centered around Obamacare. He has spent millions of dollars getting this ready for launch day. If it fails, so does his presidency. I will be shocked if the system isn’t ready.

They are simply leaking rumors of software glitches just so they can lower the bar on launch day. Similar to how politicians lower the bar of their debating skills pending a big debate.

loveofcountry on September 25, 2013 at 9:15 PM

I will be shocked if the system isn’t ready.

They are simply leaking rumors of software glitches just so they can lower the bar on launch day. Similar to how politicians lower the bar of their debating skills pending a big debate.

loveofcountry on September 25, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Be prepared to be shocked. If you are capable of seeing the truth through your rose colored glasses.

Chris of Rights on September 25, 2013 at 9:16 PM

Fund it! Don’t fund it!

Fund it! Don’t fund it!

Fund it! Don’t fund it!

*I feel like Gollum* Auuuuuuugggghhhhh!!!!

predator on September 25, 2013 at 9:18 PM

I bet they did the numbers and EVERYONE has to pay more and they have to figure out a way to blame that on the Republicans… they are buying time waiting for a Republican to mess up.

I say… let DC be the first. They deserve what they voted for.

petunia on September 25, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Uh oh: D.C. ObamaCare exchange announces website won’t be able to calculate subsidies until November

Somehow, I completely understand that the theft is incalculable.

M240H on September 25, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Democrats thought they could just declare Obamacare roll-out dates and everything would fall into place. Just as they thought they could declare that insurance provide more benefits for lower premiums. They want it and so it will be.

Today some lefty commenter on Politico was claiming that all of the employers moving workers from full time to part time employment is a great thing because it creates more part time jobs and opportunities.

These people are not rooted in the real world.

obladioblada on September 25, 2013 at 9:21 PM

This wouldn’t be happening if it weren’t for Cruz’s ridiculous filibuster.

Bishop on September 25, 2013 at 9:24 PM

I will be shocked if the system isn’t ready.loveofcountry on September 25, 2013 at 9:15 PM

House Staffers Warned Not to Enroll in Exchanges

D.C. ObamaCare exchange announces website won’t be able to calculate subsidies until November

Just two from this page. Yea, he’s going to make sure it is ready.lol

Barred on September 25, 2013 at 9:24 PM

“Make it so!”

The only thing Democrats think is necessary to administer a Byzantine law.

INC on September 25, 2013 at 9:24 PM

The more the GOP screams and does all it can to prevent people from signing on to Obamacare, the more people want to sign on. This is equivalent to when a dad yells and screams at his teenage daughter not to date the high school football QB. The more he screams, the more the girl gets drawn to the QB. Americans know where the GOP stands with Obamacare. Allow it to launch without obstruction and then attack it if or once it starts showing signals of failure.

loveofcountry on September 25, 2013 at 8:51 PM

That you acknowledge having the emotional depth of a teenage girl is the most refreshing bit of honesty I’ve ever encountered from a stereotypical Liberal supplicant.

M240H on September 25, 2013 at 9:27 PM

And they will tax everyone retroactively, ala Clinton, even though they are the ones that screwed up. Meanwhile, millions will continue to lose their health insurance and full time employment. And, everyone else’s rates are skyrocketing in anticipation of all Obamacare’s glory.

txhsmom on September 25, 2013 at 9:27 PM

M240H- yep.

wolly4321 on September 25, 2013 at 9:28 PM

loveofcountry on September 25, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Yeah, I bet they have Bill Gates and Steven Jobs on a Ouija board working it out right now.

Cindy Munford on September 25, 2013 at 9:29 PM

The more the GOP screams and does all it can to prevent people from signing on to Obamacare, the more people want to sign on.

loveofcountry on September 25, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Agreed, Americans by their millions are itching for the opportunity to pay more for less, I can feel it, can you? Dude you are like a seer or something.

Bishop on September 25, 2013 at 9:29 PM

this is racist

rob verdi on September 25, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Cindy Munford on September 25, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Good one, Cindy.

Barred on September 25, 2013 at 9:31 PM

loveofcountry on September 25, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Republicans haven’t stopped anyone from signing up. How could they do that? The cost is prohibitive and since you can sign up anytime, why not just wait until you actually need it?

Cindy Munford on September 25, 2013 at 9:31 PM

9.5% is my beer budget. And I’m not giving it up.

wolly4321 on September 25, 2013 at 9:32 PM

In the District, that won’t happen next month. Instead, the eligibility determination will be made “off-line by experts” by early November…

Experts = Democrat operatives
Eligibility Determination = Registered democrat – highest available subsidy
Registered republican = no subsidy available
Registered independent = switch to democrat and we’ll re-evaluate

News2Use on September 25, 2013 at 9:32 PM

What is the advantage of a delay again?

It gives the Dems more time to figure out how to blame Republicans, because that is he goal.

I had a long argument with a guy who said over and Over that it was a Republican plan and they marked it up in committee sat in every meeting and so it is really their plan…. blah blah blah….

He even agreed that passing it on Christmas eve night was bad, locking out Republicans was bad, but the Republicans deserved it because they made a video saying that there were death panels… which there are!

But underlying all of it was that Democrats don’t want this hung around their necks.

So if they are so panicked, what is the advantage of delay?

Okay, other than sparing the country the pain of passing it I guess. But that wouldn’t stop the Democrats.

The people most hurt voted for Obama, so it is their own fault.

Of course I can actually pay the huge increase, so maybe I am not feeling it as much as I should. I am mad at being told what to do. And that I have to pay for something I don’t need… but I’ll still eat.

petunia on September 25, 2013 at 9:32 PM

They are simply leaking rumors of software glitches just so they can lower the bar on launch day. Similar to how politicians lower the bar of their debating skills pending a big debate.

loveofcountry on September 25, 2013 at 9:15 PM

The only thing lower than the bar Barack Obama has set for for dignity as President of United States is my aghast, agape jaw.

M240H on September 25, 2013 at 9:33 PM

A 1 year delay just gives them another year to work out the bugs.

Let it roll out and go up in smoke.

p0s3r on September 25, 2013 at 9:33 PM

The cost is prohibitive and since you can sign up anytime, why not just wait until you actually need it?
Cindy Munford on September 25, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Why not? 15,000 fully armed IRS agents Brown Shirts, ready to haul your a** to jail!
#obamaspolicestate

txhsmom on September 25, 2013 at 9:35 PM

The more the GOP screams and does all it can to prevent people from signing on to Obamacare, the more people want to sign on.
This is equivalent to when a dad yells and screams at his teenage daughter not to date the high school football QB. The more he screams, the more the girl gets drawn to the QB.
Americans know where the GOP stands with Obamacare. Allow it to launch without obstruction and then attack it if or once it starts showing signals of failure.

loveofcountry on September 25, 2013 at 8:51 PM

However, being told ahead of time, then having it happen, does let them know that Obama lied, and Republicans didn’t.

Until the media tells them they really have been at war with Eurasia all along.

The people most hurt will be Obama voters.

petunia on September 25, 2013 at 9:37 PM

Think he’s primed right now for a big ObamaCare clusterfark in October?

“””””Obama’s 45 percent job-approval rating is the lowest since September 2011, a month after a partisan showdown over lifting the debt ceiling brought the U.S. to the brink of default.”””””

As you can see Alahpundit, a fight on debt and a possible shutdown isn’t all that good for Mr. Obama either. Amazing how people forget these facts.

KMav on September 25, 2013 at 9:37 PM

99.9% of everyone I know don’t know anything about any of it.

wolly4321 on September 25, 2013 at 9:37 PM

Let me try again…..

Think he’s primed right now for a big ObamaCare clusterfark in October?

“””””Obama’s 45 percent job-approval rating is the lowest since September 2011, a month after a partisan showdown over lifting the debt ceiling brought the U.S. to the brink of default.”””””

As you can see Alahpundit, a fight on debt and a possible shutdown isn’t all that good for Mr. Obama either. Amazing how people forget these facts.

KMav on September 25, 2013 at 9:39 PM

txhsmom on September 25, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Later maybe, but right now, my son’s paying his $95 happily.

Cindy Munford on September 25, 2013 at 9:41 PM

obladioblada on September 25, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Yeah cuz now instead of working 40-48 hours a week with OT after 40….you have to work 2 part time jobs at around 54+ hours a week for much less pay! Math is hardz!

watertown on September 25, 2013 at 9:41 PM

I’m not paying the $95 either. Screw that. I won’t file.

wolly4321 on September 25, 2013 at 9:45 PM

Barred on September 25, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Thank you very much.

Cindy Munford on September 25, 2013 at 9:45 PM

wolly4321 on September 25, 2013 at 9:45 PM

I believe not filing is a misdemeanor whereas falsifying is a felony. Make sure before you take the plunge.

Cindy Munford on September 25, 2013 at 9:46 PM

That in itself was a joke because, as Ed explained on Monday, D.C.’s a small market where the vast, vast majority already have insurance.

How about all those Congressional staffers?

slickwillie2001 on September 25, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Nancy was right. Next week we get to see what’s in it.

newportmike on September 25, 2013 at 9:52 PM

WaPo was touting the D.C. exchange for small businesses just two days ago as a model of preparedness while federal administrators were busy struggling to get their own exchanges up and running by October 1.

Clark Howard, another old media liberal, has been touting Nevada’s state exchange as an ideal model. I’m looking forward to the day when it crashes too.

slickwillie2001 on September 25, 2013 at 9:54 PM

It’s not a plunge. I’m not a slave. I’m not paying a fine for not buying something I can’t afford.

They haul me away, so be it. I’m sure I’ll have plenty of company, unless they use the same computer systems they are talking about here.

wolly4321 on September 25, 2013 at 9:57 PM

This blog entry presumes zer0bama cares that it’ll be a mess.

SouthernGent on September 25, 2013 at 10:04 PM

“loveofcountry” Hmmm. How do these trolls keep popping up out of nowhere? Was there an open registration that I missed?

Bitter Clinger on September 25, 2013 at 10:25 PM

This blog entry presumes zer0bama cares that it’ll be a mess.

SouthernGent on September 25, 2013 at 10:04 PM

The idea of Zerocare is to lead to single payer, but there’s no way in H that the proggies are smart enough to calibrate the speed of migration. They might get a little freaked out if it crashes before the end of the year.

I believe the crash was intended to be a financial crash, a Cloward-Pivening of the nation.

slickwillie2001 on September 25, 2013 at 10:50 PM

I wonder if Obama and Reid might entertain a GOP demand to delay the law for awhile simply because the potential political headache of a disastrous October 1 rollout has gotten too likely and too large. They don’t want the uninsured trying to sign up next week and then getting frustrated and giving up when the websites don’t work correctly. At this point, maybe it’s worth the risk of putting the exchanges off for awhile to work out the bugs, even if that means giving the GOP more time to build grassroots opposition to the law.

Dems may welcome a delay, but GOP should fight it.
Marketers know that shoppers, once burned, don’t go back.

That’s why theater and movie makers all sweat the early reviews.

We had a much-touted restaurant open here recently and it was shuttered less than 3 months later (took longer than that to renovate the building for the opening).
Bad food – word spread – no one went back for a second try and people stopped coming for the first time as well.

AesopFan on September 26, 2013 at 11:05 AM

Once again stupid Republicans playing into the Democrats hands.

This roll out is a complete cluster and I have to believe there’s nothing more the Democrats want than to have the Republicans push for a one year delay.

- Gives them another year to turn a major disaster into a disaster.

- Can blame the Republicans for delaying Obamacare.

- People won’t experience the full impact of the cluster until after the 2014 elections.

Are there Republicans in DC that think strategically?

Enforce the law with no changes. Stop Obama from making unilateral changes.

GCM on September 26, 2013 at 1:07 PM