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posted at 8:01 am on September 25, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Right now as I post this, Senator Pat Roberts is giving Sen. Ted Cruz a break, allowing him to rest during a 17-hour stretch of holding the floor of the US Senate.  Roberts is scolding Harry Reid for blocking amendments in defiance of Senate traditions, and hailing Cruz for making every analogy possible to explain how ObamaCare is a train wreck in motion:

No matter what one thinks of the strategy, Cruz’ performance has been impressive in every sense of the word.  The “long speech” — it’s not really a filibuster, since debate has already been limited and a vote scheduled for today — has objectively raised the profile of the opposition to ObamaCare, and whether that would have worked better for a delay than defunding is really moot at this point.

Besides, John Boehner has the delay option ready to go in round two, according to Politico:

The House Republican leadership is seriously considering attaching a one-year delay of Obamacare’s individual mandate to the Senate bill to avert a government shutdown, according to senior GOP aides.

If House Republicans decide to go this route, it would all but provoke a government shutdown, since Senate Democrats might not even schedule a vote on a bill that includes that provision, Senate leadership staffers say. Even if the Senate schedules a vote, there might not be time to move the legislation through the slow-moving chamber.

The House Republican leadership is planning its next move as it becomes abundantly clear that Texas Sen. Ted Cruz’s gambit to defund Obamacare will fall short. The federal government is set to shut down Tuesday unless a new funding bill is enacted, and the Senate might not even send a bill to the House until Sunday — leaving a hot potato on Speaker John Boehner’s lap shortly before a government shutdown. The Senate bill will fund the government through Nov. 15.

A shutdown for a couple of days isn’t going to create a headache, but it might get the Senate to act with a little more alacrity to Boehner’s next submission.  Republicans need to push the inequitable delays imposed by the White House against the consumers’ interest to demand an explanation why the whole train wreck shouldn’t be delayed to their benefit.

Ted Cruz just returned and made a “wacko birds” reference. Nice.


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McCain–another whiner. Just shut up.

davidk on September 25, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Rep. Sean Duffy…….waiting on your approval of Cruz doing what he can….

Oh wait, let’s have another 40 meaningless votes.

Disgusting republican “leaders”.

PappyD61 on September 25, 2013 at 12:39 PM

McCain seems to be saying that if any Congress he is a part of has done something, it should never be changed or challenged. What a total preposterous sham.

oldroy on September 25, 2013 at 12:39 PM

McCain rolling over.

davidk on September 25, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Wrong, McCain. I don’t care how long you have “fought” on this issue. As long as ObamaCare remains the law of the land, you HAVE NOT FOUGHT HARD ENOUGH OR LONG ENOUGH.

Don’t just tell me that “we tried. we lost. it’s over.”

Go F**K yourself.

Chris of Rights on September 25, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Mugabe type elections should not be respected.

Schadenfreude on September 25, 2013 at 12:41 PM

When McCain is talking and I am not watching the monitor I have a hard time telling the difference between him and dingy Harry. I feel sick right now.

manyears on September 25, 2013 at 12:41 PM

McCain, the Marshall Petain of the US Senate…..rushing to surrender in the interest of ‘going along to get along’.

If you can’t stand on your principles all of the time, then you don’t have any principles.

It’s past time to retire Senator. You are destroying what little reputation you have remaining.

Athos on September 25, 2013 at 12:41 PM

McCain is irritated for being compared to British weasels.

Heh.

YOU are a weasel, McCain.

Schadenfreude on September 25, 2013 at 12:42 PM

McShiddy defending the process that gave us Obamacare. Arizona, gramps is out wandering again.

DanMan on September 25, 2013 at 12:42 PM

McCain tearing down Cruz.

davidk on September 25, 2013 at 12:42 PM

AZ, you s/b ashamed for keeping this swine in office.

Schadenfreude on September 25, 2013 at 12:42 PM

McCain.
Waste of time.
Waste of oxygen.

Jomama on September 25, 2013 at 12:43 PM

There are days when I’m actually glad McCain never became President.

Chris of Rights on September 25, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Hey clown: here is an idea, instead of telling us how great it is that my unemployed college graduate daughter can stay on my insurance how about you quit destroying the economy so she can get a decent job?

manyears on September 25, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Even that is not guaranteed. If putting the daughter on your work tab increases your insurance cost above the Obamacare limit, then your work package is no longer Obamacare-compliant. Surprise!

slickwillie2001 on September 25, 2013 at 12:43 PM

I have zero respect for McCain.

davidk on September 25, 2013 at 12:44 PM

BOOO hoooo McCain your a lost cause go join the Democrats already.

watertown on September 25, 2013 at 12:44 PM

McCain, you are worse than Chamberlain.

Schadenfreude on September 25, 2013 at 12:44 PM

It’s time for John McCain to follow the path of Arlen Specter – and just change parties already.

Athos on September 25, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Reid and McCain are two swine of the land.

Schadenfreude on September 25, 2013 at 12:44 PM

You disgust me McCain, you have become the enemy. Go away, far far away.

D-fusit on September 25, 2013 at 12:45 PM

McCain, if you can’t take the heat get out of the Senate.

“My friend obama.”

davidk on September 25, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Cornyn & McConnell and the rest of these traitors don’t need to think that pontificating is going to save them.

There is nothing worse in a person that is a deceiver and that is what they are!

Rush is on a roll!!

bluefox on September 25, 2013 at 12:46 PM

McShiddy took up the minorities time defending Obamacare? really? Why is he in the GOP? Aren’t there standards? oh wait, that’s how got here

DanMan on September 25, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Yes McCain has contributed greatly to this country. Now he is senile and should go away.

manyears on September 25, 2013 at 12:47 PM

oldroy on September 25, 2013 at 12:01 PM

I understand the math.
Some of the math is tbd.
Happy to have the discussion once we have those details.

verbaluce on September 25, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Isn’t this the point? What math to discuss? There wasn’t supposed to be anything to discuss, that from the moment we embraced Obamacare everything, from medical costs to coverage costs, were supposed to decrease.

Now not only are they not decreasing, our medical care is subject to rationing, it is affecting hiring in the United States, and studies show there will still be 31 million Americans without coverage.

If we have anything left to discuss, why didn’t we have this conversation before the bill was passed?

itsspideyman on September 25, 2013 at 12:49 PM

I want my vote back, you worthless douchebag.

Slavery was once the law of the land, should that have stayed in effect too, jackwad? Man I hate this guy.

Bishop on September 25, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Shucky Choomer the nicompoop from NY.

D-fusit on September 25, 2013 at 12:49 PM

No Chuck. Mr. Cruz is not the only one who feels this way. Sit down and shut up.

manyears on September 25, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Let the douchebag from NY continue to lie.

D-fusit on September 25, 2013 at 12:51 PM

McCain, you loser,liar,and weasel, you praised Harry Reid’s and Pelosi’scorrupt powers in ramming through Obamacare as if Pubs. were given time to debate and present amendments. You old senile democrat, you need to be in a nursing home under Obamacare and a death panel needs to let you die since you think Oscare is so great. These dems. now speaking are commies.

they lie on September 25, 2013 at 12:52 PM

McCain is a travesty, not a RINO, but a non-Republican. But he is not in reality a party leader. He is a foot soldier for the Democrats and McConnel. The best bet to change the course of the GOP, and rid it of this stultifying attitude is to unseat McConnel in the 2014 primary.

JonPrichard on September 25, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Chuckie Schmuckie has now taken the podium to castigate Senator Cruz for have the temerity to speak for 21 hours against Schmuckie’s progressive fascist dream of government managed healthcare.

I now hold John McCain in the same contempt and disgust as I do the fascist morons of the left, Reid, Durbin, Schumer, Warren, McCaskill, Leahy, Feinstein, Boxer, and Franken.

Athos on September 25, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Thanks for the play by plays everyone. I’m at work and can’t watch live.

Buttercup on September 25, 2013 at 12:03 PM

I heartily second that. Thanks for providing a running commentary for the office-bound among us. There were some well-considered, sometimes spectacularly insightful comments made on HA here today. And frankly I’m not surprised. Select idiocy aside from the usual suspects, when you gather conservative-leaning folks together, good things will generally happen.

CaptFlood on September 25, 2013 at 12:52 PM

LOL look at who is talking about who cant not get their way. Compromise for Liberals is give us everything we want and nothing you want.

watertown on September 25, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Game over, McCain. You and all your pusillanimous fools in the GOP have nowhere to hide anymore. Snarl and lash out because that’s what cornerered weasels do, but it’s over.

rrpjr on September 25, 2013 at 12:55 PM

These auto play adds are horrible. I dont mind one, but when it auto starts out of the blue with ANOTHER add…..

watertown on September 25, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Scmuckie – a typical progressive fascist, tells us all that the only acceptable debate takes place when everyone shuts up and not only just listens to the fascists, but does what the fascists want without question or complaint.

What a pos…

Athos on September 25, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Hey Chucky, “try it, maybe we will like it”? Is that like Nancompoop’s “we have to pass the bill so you can see what’s in it?” Some of us are/were smart enough and observant enough to know from the beginning what a piece of crap this was. We also know that once implemented there will be no turning back.

manyears on September 25, 2013 at 12:56 PM

A bill that started under 3k pages is now over 20K pages. And you expect small businesses to understand this when they barely can keep things going… mind you they are the main driver of the economy… but that dont matter cuz they aint your big money donors for elections.

watertown on September 25, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Take a few minutes and let him know how much you appreciate what he did.

http://www.cruz.senate.gov/contact.cfm

Barred on September 25, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Just tried and they are experiencing “technical difficulties”!

Maybe they’re getting bombed!

lynncgb on September 25, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Is this the cloture vote?

bluefox on September 25, 2013 at 1:03 PM

Is this the cloture vote?

bluefox on September 25, 2013 at 1:03 PM

Doesn’t sound like it. One of Reid’s arcane rules maybe.

bluefox on September 25, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Cruz will be on Rush as soon as this Senate vote is done.

bluefox on September 25, 2013 at 1:08 PM

It’s glorious that Cruz has the RINOs and the Left all irritated like wasps!

Schadenfreude on September 25, 2013 at 1:13 PM

McCain tearing down Cruz.

davidk on September 25, 2013 at 12:42 PM


It’s time for the gloves to come off and have McCain and Palin go after each other.

I want a civil war in the gop because it’s decades long overdue. From the time that Bush 41 took over in late 1988 the Progressive Big gov lovers have been selling us a line of bull about freebies from the government (Medicare Part D, etc.) and all the stuff we can get………and it won’t cost us any of our freedom.

Bring it on.

PappyD61 on September 25, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Cruz on Rush now.

novaculus on September 25, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Maverick Blue Falcon

Christien on September 25, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Do the math:

Tennessee: Obamacare will triple men’s premiums, double women’s

http://washingtonexaminer.com/white-house-report-tennesee-men-face-290-women-197-obamacare-hike/article/2536363

davidk on September 25, 2013 at 1:22 PM

PappyD61 on September 25, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Calm down Grandpa, no need to go all Murray Rothbard on us.

thebrokenrattle on September 25, 2013 at 1:30 PM

God they are freaking out.

I have to say this now, maybe it is time for a new political party.

There are several problems with developing a new political party.

One: Talent. You have to have talented politicians that are capable of leading a new political party. I think we have that. Cruz, Lee, Paul, Palin (will need her to run for something like for Senate in Alaska), and a few others could make a nice nucleus for a new political party.

Two: It will give Dems a temporary political advantage, but that can be mediated by the upheaval in this country that is coming in the next 5 years. The GOP was founded in 1854 and by 1860 they won the presidency.

So it will not be 15 years in the wilderness for conservatives. A new political party will allow the conservatives and libertarians to dump the RINOs and Neo-Cons from leadership positions in the party. They can get more hardcore conservatives in Red States and it will allow the new party to run more libertarian candidates in purple and blue states who will offer a better message for those states.

All we are getting now is RINOs in purple/blue states and trying to force them on red states as well.

William Eaton on September 25, 2013 at 1:39 PM

CONTACT YOUR SENATORS!!!!

http://www.senate.gov/

UnderstandingisPower on September 25, 2013 at 1:43 PM

If you live in Arkansas……

http://www.contactingthecongress.org/cgi-bin/newmemberbio.cgi?site=ctc2011&member=ARSR

Little Rock, AR 72201
Phone number: 501-324-6336

Melt the phones.

PappyD61 on September 25, 2013 at 1:48 PM

DON’T FUND IT….

http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/

Sign the petition!!!

UnderstandingisPower on September 25, 2013 at 1:49 PM

How low has the U.S. Senate fallen?

John F. Kerry was elected to the U.S. Senate.

Rome had nothing worse than U.S..

APACHEWHOKNOWS on September 25, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Despite my longstanding beliefs of the futility of this approach, I applaud Ted Cruz’s efforts in this. He fights for the American people. And that’s refreshing in Washington. And I’m ashamed of John McCain today.

Chris of Rights on September 25, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Peter King (R) schools Cruz

“he’s a fraud,” Mr. King said.

“But I also believe in democracy, and I don’t mean that in a Fourth of July way,” he said. “We’ve lost on the House floor, we lost on the Senate floor, the president signed the bill, the Supreme Court held it to be constitutional, and the 2012 election was run on Obamacare as much as any issue. President Obama won.

And as everyone knows…

“What do you accomplish? You build up this mailing list for Cruz, and a fund-raising list.

verbaluce on September 25, 2013 at 1:51 PM

If you live in Lousiana…….

http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/cgi-bin/newmemberbio.cgi?member=LASR&site=congressmerge

Lake Charles, LA 70629
Voice: 337-436-6650

Baton Rouge, LA 70801-1713
Voice: 225-389-0395

Shreveport, LA 71101
Voice: 318-676-3085

New Orleans, LA 70130-3319
Voice: 504-589-2427

Let her here from you…..tell your friends in Lousiana to call her office and tell them to DEFUND OBAMACARE, and support Cruz and Lee, or you’re not going to give them a dime, and will financially support any opponent in the next election.

PappyD61 on September 25, 2013 at 1:51 PM

And finally, If you live in Missouri……

http://www.blunt.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/office-locations

Kansas City, MO 64105
Phone: (816) 471-7141

Springfield, MO 65804
Phone: (417) 877-7814

Cape Girardeau, Missouri 63703
Phone: (573) 334-7044

Clayton, MO 63105
Phone: (314) 725-4484

Jefferson City, MO 65101
Phone: (573) 634-2488

Columbia, MO 65201
Phone: (573) 442-8151

Spread the numbers around, call his offices, tell them to support Cruz and Lee. Tell him you’re watching and determining your next campaign donations….

PappyD61 on September 25, 2013 at 1:54 PM

One thing to come, the printing press noise of the FED will soon drown out the wezzing of these paid crooks in the U.S. Senate.

When the debt gets to $20 Trillion and the intrest rates get back to normal and the debt service alone is $1.5 Trillion just to pay the intrest on the debt with nothing left to write the welfare checks…

Most of the elected elite will have fled the U.S.A. by then.

They will leave U.S. behind.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on September 25, 2013 at 1:55 PM

verbsoutofbalance

Where will you hide when the welfare checks start bouncing?

It is as sure as the sun comming up.

Now with intrest rates at a low of 2.4% it works, but when the rates go back up to even close to normal,,,,,,

Better find a safe place.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on September 25, 2013 at 1:59 PM

tset

APACHEWHOKNOWS on September 25, 2013 at 2:02 PM

verbaluce on September 25, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Lol! Peter King couldn’t school fish.

squint on September 25, 2013 at 2:08 PM

verbaluce on September 25, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Wasting your time….

Course, it’s yours to waste….

itsspideyman on September 25, 2013 at 2:18 PM

“What do you accomplish?”
verbaluce on September 25, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Yeah, that slavery thing? Give up, the Dred Scott decision cinched it.

itsspideyman on September 25, 2013 at 2:21 PM

verbaluce on September 25, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Peter King is your new hero now, huh?

ROFL

The same Peter King who wants to imprison journalists?

Man, you choose the strangest people to idolize.

Bishop on September 25, 2013 at 2:27 PM

That was a heroic effort last night.

But the despots took control again.

So I am checking out again for awhile I have little faith that the corruption can be overcome

petunia on September 25, 2013 at 2:38 PM

McCain is corrupt, sold out, on the take. There’s no other explanation for his behavior.

claudius on September 25, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Cornyn will be on Hannity’s radio show soon.

Rand Paul was on. Didn’t sound encouraging but said he will still vote no on cloture. Seems like he can’t reconcile his endorsment of McConnell, his support of Cruz and his possible intent of running in 2016.

He needs to decide which side he is going to land on, and soon.
IMO, his support of McConnell is a deal breaker. I can’t support Rand due to that.

bluefox on September 25, 2013 at 3:54 PM

A demand for commitment without a guarantee of performance is domination, not service

Bishop on September 25, 2013 at 10:24 AM

Bumper Sticker of the Page (#3) (and 4 still to read! HA comments rock!)

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 4:22 PM

High deductible HSA plans are a great deal…for high income earners.
Great for insurance companies as they collect premiums and seldom pay benefits.
And these plans have been available for a long time. So his ‘plan’ is, again, the status quo….with zero relief for those who are not high-earners.

verbaluce on September 25, 2013 at 11:06 AM

I notice you had nothing to say about the next 2 points which are most certainly not the status-quo; both existing restraints are ridiculous in today’s mobile environment.
Personal plans are very expensive and are not generally available (some non-employment groups do exist and more are being created), and all insurance plans are state-determined with wildly varying constraints.

Also, HSA plans could be made available to all income levels if the government controllers would allow them.

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 4:39 PM

If we have anything left to discuss, why didn’t we have this conversation before the bill was passed?

itsspideyman on September 25, 2013 at 12:49 PM

What he said.

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 4:53 PM

If we have anything left to discuss, why didn’t we have this conversation before the bill was passed?

itsspideyman on September 25, 2013 at 12:49 PM

What bill? The Obamacare bill passed in 2009 or the CR passed by the House that the Senate has now received?

If the 2009, Dems controlled WH, Senate & House.

If the CR that includes DEfunding Obamacare, you’ll have to ask Boehner/Cantor/McCarthy. They work behind close doors and lie alot:-) Then Boehner/Pelosi/Reid/McConnell work together to draft a bill that will be what they wanted in the first place, which was a CR & FUNDING for Obamacare and not shut the government down. Shazamm!! Smoke & Mirrors in other words.

That’s why Congress is despised.

bluefox on September 25, 2013 at 5:15 PM

Boehner should attach all “waivers” repealed also.

Norbitz on September 25, 2013 at 5:21 PM

Rand Paul was on. Didn’t sound encouraging but said he will still vote no on cloture. Seems like he can’t reconcile his endorsment of McConnell, his support of Cruz and his possible intent of running in 2016.

He needs to decide which side he is going to land on, and soon.
IMO, his support of McConnell is a deal breaker. I can’t support Rand due to that.

bluefox on September 25, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Seems he is a just a slightly better version of his father, his mask is slowly, but steadily is sliding off. From his McConnell endorsement, to pro-legalization, to now giving up the fight BEFORE Cruz even started the filibuster yesterday to then failing to support Cruz same way that Lee did (and to just score needed points as did Rubio). Not sure he realizes it yet, but he is most likely done, Senate is all he can get, WH is way off limits now that other much better options are available. Cruz/Lee ticket, or better yet Cruz/West work for me, someone should stay in Senate and keep them in check (Lee).

Unless we see Paul take back his McConnell endorsement and back tracking on illegals these two anchors will drag him down tremendously. Securing the borders is not going to do much if we allow 300+ Million free loaders to come here in a very short span, I don’t buy anyone’s “guesstimate” of 30 Million over 10 years, it will be most of poor South America, Middle East and good chunk of Asia moving here overnight, no doubt about it. Have no idea how Paul seems to miss this simple math. Mosques on every corner, no less.

riddick on September 25, 2013 at 6:26 PM

Boehner should attach all “waivers” repealed also.

Norbitz on September 25, 2013 at 5:21 PM

Absolutely! And no delay for anyone, the law says January 1st 2014, enforce it fully, Hussein’s executive orders are as legal as selling crack in schools.

riddick on September 25, 2013 at 6:31 PM

Very nice to finally see the smartest Man in the room. If we have any good fortune at all, may Cruz become President and leader of the free world. He will serve well as both I believe.

Bmore on September 25, 2013 at 6:35 PM

…how would Senator Senile look…. in Tar and Feathers?

KOOLAID2 on September 25, 2013 at 7:04 PM

…how would Senator Senile look…. in Tar and Feathers?

KOOLAID2 on September 25, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Oh, I just know that Bmore can show us!! That would be awesome. I’d
suggest chicken feathers:-) Seeing how he was so skeered to face our Goliath who was on the floor for 21 hours! A David Sen. Senile is not:-)

Do it Bmore. Is it too early for a winter project?

bluefox on September 25, 2013 at 8:04 PM

riddick on September 25, 2013 at 6:26 PM

I’ve noticed several yellow flags with Paul, even tho he has some strong positions. The red flag is endorsing McConnell. No excuse for that.

It appears to me that most of what Paul is doing or not doing is for his run in 2016 and not for the American people or the Country.

Well, one thing he can’t take back or change his mind on is his vote in the Senate on the Immigration bill. See Roll Call Vote following. Not only Paul’s yes vote, but note the R’s that voted yes. They vote with the Dems almost all of the time. And I think they will vote FOR cloture on this Obamacare bill also.

Paul endorsing McConnell & his Immigration vote of yes is a bridge too far for me. And I agree we don’t have to settle for 2nd or 3rd best.

Roll Call: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00168

P.S. Keep in mind, this will most likely be taken up by the House soon.

bluefox on September 25, 2013 at 9:10 PM

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