Mitch McConnell: Ted Cruz’s filibuster would shut down the government and keep ObamaCare funded; Update: Cruz to launch “talking filibuster” at 2:30

posted at 2:01 pm on September 24, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via Roll Call, if the House defunding bill can’t pass the Senate then obviously the money appropriated for ObamaCare will continue to flow. And a filibuster would, of course, prevent it from passing the Senate. Alternate headline: “Who’s the RINO now?”

He’s playing his strongest card here, namely, the fact that the filibuster would spare weak red-state Democrats like Pryor and Landrieu from having to take a tough vote on defunding ObamaCare. If Cruz and Lee convince Republicans to filibuster the House bill, then Pryor can vote for cloture while claiming, just like McConnell, that he’s voting to defund. That protects him back home with conservative voters while ensuring that there are no bad consequences to his vote for Democrats; the bill will have been filibustered, after all, so Pryor’s vote is meaningless. Without the filibuster, though, Pryor will have to vote on Reid’s amendment stripping the “defund” language from the House bill. That vote will split on party lines and Reid can only afford to lose three Democrats from his caucus to get to a simple majority of 51. That means one or more red-state Dems who are up for reelection next year — Pryor, Landrieu, Hagan, Begich, and so on — will have to bite the bullet and vote yes, then go home and explain why to angry conservatives. Who wants to volunteer?

McConnell’s message, in other words, is that a vote on Reid’s amendment is a do-over for Democrats on ObamaCare. If red-state Dems have concerns about the law, now’s their chance to vote with the GOP on defunding it. That talking point does, at least, have the virtue of turning up the heat on the other party instead of turning it up on one’s own. And yet, I’m still surprised that McConnell volunteered to be a pinata for grassroots conservatives by taking the lead on this instead of voting with Cruz in an ultimately futile filibuster bid. As I write this, the Senate Conservatives Fund PAC founded by Jim DeMint is leading with a post about him (and Cornyn) titled, “The Ultimate Betrayal.” He’s going to be the lightning rod for a backlash in the primary now. Why not let McCain or, better yet, someone with conservative cred like Tom Coburn make the case against filibustering?

Oh well. Reid boasted earlier today that there will be no filibuster, which is true. Now that McConnell and Cornyn have nixed it, the question isn’t whether Cruz and Lee can marshal 41 votes, the question is how few they’ll end up with. Rubio, who needs to rebuild his own cred, is with them, but Lindsey Graham apparently went so far as to say that he’ll vote for cloture in the name of avoiding a shutdown even after Reid strips out the defunding language from the House CR(!). Sure are a lot of emboldened RINOs out there right now. Maybe they’re calculating that the PR damage to the party in the wake of a shutdown would actually be more dangerous to them in the general election than a conservative insurgency would be to them in a primary. If so, that’s … a lot of PR damage.

Per Gabe Malor, looks like Boehner will have a single day — Sunday — to decide what to do about defunding before a shutdown occurs, assuming Reid’s schedule in the Senate proceeds as everyone expects. Exit question: Will the House move this week to pass something new before the Senate’s done killing their current bill?

Update: Betsy Woodruff of NRO posted this at around 2:10 ET:

They don’t have 41 to block the House CR but Cruz can seize the opportunity to launch a broadside against ObamaCare on the floor a la Rand Paul’s epic attack on drone policy this spring. Might want to turn on C-SPAN 2 right now if you’re near a TV (or click here). As for how long he’s planning to speak:

Update: To clarify: This isn’t a true filibuster in the sense that it’s designed to stop the Senate from voting tomorrow on the House CR. As I understand it, because that vote is already set, it’ll happen regardless of how long Cruz talks.

Update: More from Woodruff:


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“Whatever you call this time of day.”
lol

1797, George Washington — being followed by a crowd — vision of America.

Townhall meetings — the future of America rests in the hands of its people.

We the people, not we the government, will fulfil Washington’s vision.

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 4:54 AM

There we go. That’s the Kleagle beaten for 8th.

Gingotts on September 25, 2013 at 4:56 AM

I think that he passed up Byrd just a moment ago in terms of length.

Theophile on September 25, 2013 at 4:56 AM

William Morris on “mad men” — moving the Overton window.

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 4:57 AM

Don’t you mean Byrd at 14 hours 13 minutes?

Theophile on September 25, 2013 at 4:58 AM

The last comment on Goldberg’s headline post:

So you are saying Ted Cruz has the ability to win back to back presidencies by 4-7%? Sign me up.

Of course, there are plenty of differences. One being that Cruz can speak for 12 hours on one topic without a teleprompter. Obama has problems after his first sentence.

KMav on September 25, 2013 at 3:03 AM

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 4:59 AM

Lee lays out the long-term options and consequences.

Very clear.

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 5:02 AM

More than 1/3 of the tweets about the filibuster are making fun of the StandWithCruz hashtag. But go with it….

libfreeordie on September 25, 2013 at 12:27 AM

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Do you support shutting down the government in order to save Obamacare?

blink on September 25, 2013 at 1:21 AM
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C’MON LIBFREE‘ ! . . . . . . .
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. . . . . . . still waiting, here.

listens2glenn on September 25, 2013 at 1:55 AM

.
Still waiting ………..

listens2glenn on September 25, 2013 at 3:58 AM

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. . . . . . . and waiting . . . . . . . .

listens2glenn on September 25, 2013 at 5:03 AM

Cruz replies to Lee.
“Take the responsibility on ourselves.”

These guys have really rung the changes on Reagan’s “Shining City on a Hill.”

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 5:04 AM

Shout-out to Paul Rand.

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 5:05 AM

O.k… it is time for me to go to sleep finally. You guys have a good night. I will catch the rest of this in the morning. :)

Theophile on September 25, 2013 at 5:06 AM

The last comment on Goldberg’s headline post:

So you are saying Ted Cruz has the ability to win back to back presidencies by 4-7%? Sign me up.

Of course, there are plenty of differences. One being that Cruz can speak for 12 hours on one topic without a teleprompter. Obama has problems after his first sentence.

KMav on September 25, 2013 at 3:03 AM

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 4:59 AM

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Oooooooooh ….. OUCH !

Well, “the shoe fits.”

listens2glenn on September 25, 2013 at 5:06 AM

Castigating the press for talking about personalities instead of principles.

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 5:15 AM

“Our constituents are our boss — they have every right to dictate to us.”

Within reason; after all, we are a representative republic, not a democracy.

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 5:17 AM

Reading the Welfare Poem.

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 5:18 AM

Can you imagine what the Senate would be like without Ted Cruz? Without this one guy? Just about hopeless. That there’s only less than a handful of conservatives with any backbone is sad.

Way to go Ted. Show them that the status quo is no longer acceptable. The go-along-to-get-along crowd is what got us where we are.

Dongemaharu on September 25, 2013 at 5:18 AM

Hooray! He mentioned The Law by Bastiat. :)

Theophile on September 25, 2013 at 5:18 AM

1850 Frederick Bastien’s (sp??) “The Law”

No one can say that Cruz comes to battle unprepared.
Unlike Obama, who seems to say the first thing that comes into his head, and does no research on any topic.

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 5:21 AM

Hooray! He mentioned The Law by Bastiat. :)

Theophile on September 25, 2013 at 5:18 AM

Sweet.

the_nile on September 25, 2013 at 5:23 AM

“Lawful plunder” — what an ominous phrase!

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 5:26 AM

Bashing Obama with Bastiat.
Brilliant segue.

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 5:28 AM

Going to have to read Bastiat.

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 5:30 AM

MR. CRUZ GOES TO WASHINGTON…#Restoring our faith in the system! You can only imagine those elected weasels that our soooo jealous right now!

justonevictory on September 25, 2013 at 5:30 AM

“The cruelest irony of Obamacare..” is that it hurts most the ones it was purported to help.

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 5:34 AM

** A Salute to Team Cruz **

Senator Cruz and his allies have spoken for more than 13 hours, surpassing March’s 12-hour, 52-minute Rand Paul speech – @AP

1 hour ago from bigstory.ap.org by editor
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Senate moves toward test vote on Obamacare
By ANDREW TAYLOR
— Sep. 25 5:33 AM EDT
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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/senate-moves-toward-test-vote-obamacare

canopfor on September 25, 2013 at 5:41 AM

canopfor on September 25, 2013 at 5:45 AM

Next Al D’Amato, then Huey Long for #6th place.

TitularHead on September 25, 2013 at 5:46 AM

Lee gives Cruz another break.
Do they get to sit down when they are off stage?

“I’m not on salad.”
What a great metaphor for DC.

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 5:46 AM

“Can anyone look at the record of this administration and say, ‘Well done’?”

There is nothing new under the sun.

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 5:48 AM

Lee re-iterating the purpose of this marathon.

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 5:51 AM

THANK YOU SENATOR CRUZ!!!

dddave on September 25, 2013 at 6:05 AM

Here’s Rubio, day late and dollar short.

TitularHead on September 25, 2013 at 6:05 AM

Rubio comes in to join the tag-team.

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 6:06 AM

I woke up this morning and Ted is still standing! God bless this man! What a hero!

JellyToast on September 25, 2013 at 6:09 AM

Rubio on entrepreneurship.
I guess he didn’t get the memo that “they didn’t build that.”

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 6:13 AM

I woke up this morning and Ted is still standing! God bless this man! What a hero!

JellyToast on September 25, 2013 at 6:09 AM

Over to you and the morning shift; I’m going to bed for a few hours.

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 6:13 AM

Free enterprise… what a novel concept!

Ugly on September 25, 2013 at 6:22 AM

Cruz & Rubio have really made an impression (for those watching)(which is zero libs)

Ugly on September 25, 2013 at 6:24 AM

Oh wait, we’re racists. WHITE OLD MEN ONLY

no /s needed

Ugly on September 25, 2013 at 6:25 AM

BRAVO, TED CRUZ!

bluegill on September 25, 2013 at 6:37 AM

I already thought Ted Cruz was a great man. Watching and listening to him throughout the night has convinced me he is greater than I thought. He is a real treasure.

birdwatcher on September 25, 2013 at 6:44 AM

Wow, this is still going on. I’ve been up all night working and only just checked in.

Go Cruz!

This is important in so many ways.

WhatSlushfund on September 25, 2013 at 6:45 AM

How could Ted Cruz not win the presidential nomination?

Who in the heck would vote to nominate the tubby, pro-amnesty RINO Chris Christie? Who is his competition going to be? If Ted Cruz runs, is it going to come down to Cruz, Rand and Christie? I really think Cruz could win this thing.

bluegill on September 25, 2013 at 6:54 AM

Too bad a few Republicans didn’t do a real filibuster back when they were passing the law, when it would have really mattered. They might have stopped it.

JellyToast on September 25, 2013 at 7:03 AM

Just tuned in to the first few minutes of GMA to watch the former senior Clinton adviser playing “newsman” spin the Cruz story: called it a “bizarre speech” and only showed clips of some of lighter jokes and stories – “green eggs & ham”, “redneck toolkit – duct tape & extension cords”, etc. They did not play one policy critique but trolled concern about running out of time to avoid a gov’t shutdown.

Funny, how I don’t recall them referring to Wendy Davis’ filibuster as “bizarre” or zeroing in on any of the filler speech. No, in fact I remember them lionizing her quite clearly and talking about how this was going to be a springboard for higher achievement.

crrr6 on September 25, 2013 at 7:14 AM

Too bad a few Republicans didn’t do a real filibuster back when they were passing the law, when it would have really mattered. They might have stopped it.
JellyToast on September 25, 2013 at 7:03 AM

The truth is it could have been stopped at two times by one person:
Initially when the bill was voted out of committee with the help of one Republican vote: the Maine twin not Susan Collins, and of course the biggest cut if all, John Roberts.

Marcus on September 25, 2013 at 7:15 AM

17 hours and still at it. Go Cruz Go!!!

dddave on September 25, 2013 at 7:16 AM

Wow he looks good for going this long! Keep i tup Cruz, your none supportive party members are now finally waking up.

watertown on September 25, 2013 at 7:43 AM

I literally squealed when I turned on the TV this morning. Prayers for Cruz and all who are helping him with this filibuster.

Wow.

Fallon on September 25, 2013 at 7:47 AM

I expect him to try to go well past 24 hours.

IIRC, there is Senate business scheduled for 9:30am and I read yesterday that Cruz’s speech would not impact that. Perhaps someone can correct me (or confirm).

Hopefully we’ll see him being carried out of the Senate just before dinner time.

gh on September 25, 2013 at 7:51 AM

Awaiting Ed Morrissey’s first post of the morning. Should be posted in minutes and ought to be about Cruz. Hopefully it is a better piece than his fellow pro-amnesty RINO Duane Patterson’s insulting blurb in the Green Room.

bluegill on September 25, 2013 at 7:55 AM

Is he still going? Go Ted Go!

gophergirl on September 25, 2013 at 7:57 AM

McConnell, Coryn, Hatch, and the rest of the RINO Old Guard! Stand with Ted Cruz, or face the wrath of the voters of your respective states who are now tired of your bending to the whims of the Democrats and your own special interest groups, and see the end of your political careers come next time you are all up for re-election!

Stand with Ted Cruz!

Stand with America!

pilamaye on September 25, 2013 at 7:58 AM

All we need is 41 Senators with a spine. That is the point of all this. Cruz is our only hope to get to 41.

dddave on September 25, 2013 at 7:59 AM

I thought HotAir would be covering this more. It’s a political website.

Oil Can on September 25, 2013 at 8:03 AM

Is he still going? Go Ted Go!

gophergirl on September 25, 2013 at 7:57 AM

…oh yes!…so is the thread!

KOOLAID2 on September 25, 2013 at 8:03 AM

Looks like Rand is on his way to help

Senator Rand PaulOptions for this storySenator Cruz still going! I’m on my way back to help him out this morning. Tune in to hear more about ‪#‎MakeDCListen‬
http://www.c-span.org/Events/Sen-Cruz-Continues-Floor-Speech-Senate-Procedural-Vote-on-CR-Later-Today/10737441638-1/

gophergirl on September 25, 2013 at 8:04 AM

and of course the biggest cut if all, John Roberts.

Marcus on September 25, 2013 at 7:15 AM

I’m tired of those who castigate SCOTUS on one hand for doing things like Roe, and on the other hand blaming them for not doing things like getting rid of 0bamacare.

Roberts put the decision in the hands of the American people. The American people are the reason we still have 0bamacare. Not Justice Roberts.

If SCOTUS had killed 0bamacare, the left would have been wound up and voted in bigger numbers. The right would have been more inclined to not vote and we would now be fighting son of 0bamacare.

bluegill on September 25, 2013 at 7:55 AM

Bless your heart you ignorant fool.

cozmo on September 25, 2013 at 8:05 AM

I’m tired of those who castigate SCOTUS on one hand for doing things like Roe, and on the other hand blaming them for not doing things like getting rid of 0bamacare.

cozmo on September 25, 2013 at 8:05 AM

How about those that are tired of the court making up powers that don’t exist, like Roe, and on the other hand, making up powers that don’t exist, like upholding Obamacare?

Axe on September 25, 2013 at 8:09 AM

C-SPAN2, put it on your Facebook, twitter or wherever you may reach LIV and the politics-averse people. If they listen to the news, they’re going to hear “Green Eggs and Ham” without the explanation that Senator Cruz was reading a bedtime story to his children. Get the curious to watch for themselves… to hear the message of the filibuster.

Fallon on September 25, 2013 at 8:13 AM

Axe on September 25, 2013 at 8:09 AM

I don’t like it one bit.

The fact is, SCOTUS put the decision for 0bamacare directly in the hands of the American people. The American people are to blame for this.

cozmo on September 25, 2013 at 8:23 AM

Go Ted! So proud of you. Now, I will start my day by trying to contact all of those other useless Republicans in DC who have refused to support you and to represent us. That bunch should have had their rear ends there helping out Cruz instead of holding strategy sessions on how to keep fellow members in line to do NOTHING!

mobydutch on September 25, 2013 at 8:25 AM

The fact is, SCOTUS put the decision for 0bamacare directly in the hands of the American people. The American people are to blame for this.

cozmo on September 25, 2013 at 8:23 AM

I think the American people are directly to blame for all of this. We can go with that today and get back to my government having the power to order me to do anything it wants as long as the penalty for not doing it is called a tax another day. Cause I want your day to start out well. Also, I want my day to end well.

I’m a people person, cozmo. :)

Axe on September 25, 2013 at 8:27 AM

Axe on September 25, 2013 at 8:27 AM

There are enough other problems with 0bamacare that the supremes can address later.

The better option would be for the supremes not to have a voice in this debate.

cozmo on September 25, 2013 at 8:36 AM

Yes, the American people are to blame for this catastrophe, and yes, elections have consequences. But, I refuse to sit back and watch our country sink without some pushback. No matter how small my voice is in the whole scope of things, I plan to fight as hard as I can till the fat lady sings.

mobydutch on September 25, 2013 at 8:38 AM

we would now be fighting son of 0bamacare.

cozmo on September 25, 2013 at 8:05 AM

TravonMartinCare?

AaronAlexisCare?

Nutstuyu on September 25, 2013 at 8:40 AM

I know a few here are blaming the American people on this also, on the other hand, it was tried to be stopped before it became law.

If it was not for the back room last minute deal to rush this to get it passed in order to get around Brown being elected to stop it…

Plus did they not use “special rules” in order to get it passed?

Then toss in no other viable options for elected officials. Sometimes you have to hope your elected official will do what is right…sadly many of them are just Rinos who love the fact they now have more control of the population.

watertown on September 25, 2013 at 8:42 AM

“rebellion against oppression”

davidk on September 25, 2013 at 8:43 AM

I crashed between 2-2:30AM. Got up at 7:30AM this morning (9/25/13), turned the TV on and saw Rubio speaking. I thot C-span was playing a replay. No, it said live! Oh, my!

I can not believe Cruz is still there!! Maybe he had liquid B-12 in his water:-) He looks just as fresh this morning as he did when he started!

So I read a few headlines on Drudge, Breitbart and then here.

Thanks to all you all nighters for your comments!! Some great comments from you. I saw a poem while reading; very nice.

@canopfor: Thanks for that latest link from BigStory on AP.

Have a couple of errands to run. Please continue to hold down the fort.

P.S. I appreciate Drudge, but he gave a lot of credit to Rand Paul.
It should have went to Mike Lee imo.

bluefox on September 25, 2013 at 8:53 AM

watertown on September 25, 2013 at 8:42 AM

Are you speaking about Obamacare and when it was passed by the Dems in 2009? If so, who is blaming the American People? The blame can be placed on Pelosi & Baucus.

I’ll check back in a bit.

bluefox on September 25, 2013 at 8:56 AM

How about those that are tired of the court making up powers that don’t exist, like Roe, and on the other hand, making up powers that don’t exist, like upholding Obamacare?

Axe on September 25, 2013 at 8:09 AM

Yes!

smoothsailing on September 25, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Cruz Control,Green Eggs and NO to Obamcare–Ted Cruz’s America.
Cruz is and will be our next President!!

rodguy911 on September 25, 2013 at 9:18 AM

More than 1/3 of the tweets about the filibuster are making fun of the StandWithCruz hashtag. But go with it….

libfreeordie on September 25, 2013 at 12:27 AM

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Do you support shutting down the government in order to save Obamacare?

blink on September 25, 2013 at 1:21 AM
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C’MON LIBFREE‘ ! . . . . . . .
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. . . . . . . still waiting, here.

listens2glenn on September 25, 2013 at 1:55 AM

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Still waiting ………..

listens2glenn on September 25, 2013 at 3:58 AM
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. . . . . . . and waiting . . . . . . . .

listens2glenn on September 25, 2013 at 5:03 AM

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( y a w n ) ….. Okay, where do we stand?
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Oh … still waiting ….. : (

listens2glenn on September 25, 2013 at 11:08 AM

More than 1/3 of the tweets about the filibuster are making fun of the StandWithCruz hashtag. But go with it….

libfreeordie on September 25, 2013 at 12:27 AM
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Probably 2/3 of all twitter messages amount to inane grafitti. So your point is…?

zoyclem on September 25, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Probably 2/3 of all twitter messages amount to inane grafitti. So your point is…?

zoyclem on September 25, 2013 at 11:53 AM

I’d call 100% of the low-information perfesser’s posts “inane”.

slickwillie2001 on September 25, 2013 at 12:09 PM

So, curious to know if Rand Paul will now take his early endorsement of McConnell in KY GOP primary back. McConnell acted “nice” for a couple of months, seems he’s back to his usual RINO self now.

If there was a dire need to make changes, it is now.

riddick on September 25, 2013 at 1:14 PM

P.S. I appreciate Drudge, but he gave a lot of credit to Rand Paul.
It should have went to Mike Lee imo.

bluefox on September 25, 2013 at 8:53 AM

On point. We keep forgetting that it was Drudge that pushed Romney down our throats, among the rest of RINO crowd. He is back to his tricks again. Rubio and Paul made token appearances as their handlers told them to.

If anything, Lee impressed me no less than Cruz did with his incredible thought process and minute knowledge of laws.

riddick on September 25, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Going to have to read Bastiat.

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 5:30 AM

http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html

Bastiat’s The Law is online. Short, simple, clear.

I’m really sorry I missed Cruz quoting it.

I wonder how many senators have even heard of it.

INC on September 25, 2013 at 2:41 PM

( y a w n ) ….. Okay, where do we stand?
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Oh … still waiting ….. : (

listens2glenn on September 25, 2013 at 11:08 AM

He’s over at QOTD this morning.

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 3:00 PM

INC on September 25, 2013 at 2:41 PM

Thanks. It was a little hard to follow last night because I had to keep the sound down, but definitely worth a read.

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 3:01 PM

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 3:01 PM

You’re welcome. Davidk has been posting links to the transcript:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/national/2013/09/25/transcript-sen-ted-cruzs-filibuster-against-obamacare/

I use Closed Caption whenever it’s available because I have severe hearing loss, but my family has become so used to it that they use it all the time so that they don’t miss anything.

INC on September 25, 2013 at 3:11 PM

If anything, Lee impressed me no less than Cruz did with his incredible thought process and minute knowledge of laws.

riddick on September 25, 2013 at 1:18 PM

He wrote the book on Roberts and SCOTUS.

de rigueur on September 25, 2013 at 4:38 PM

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