Bill Clinton on ObamaCare: “This only works if young people show up”

posted at 8:01 pm on September 24, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Why yes, President Clinton, that’s absolutely true — thank you for fulfilling your role as “Secretary of Explaining Stuff” so thoroughly and describing the matter so clearly and in a way that even young people can surely understand. Via the WFB:

So, so far, it’s good, but I think it’s important for you to tell the people why we’re doing all this outreach, because this only works, for example, if young people show up, and even if they buy the cheapest plan, then they claim their tax credit so it won’t cost them much, 100 bucks a month or so. We’ve got to have them in the pools, because otherwise all these projected low costs cannot be held if older people with preexisting conditions are disproportionately represented in any given state. You’ve got to have everybody lined up.

Marking the beginning of another concerted campaign from the administration to educate and persuade young people in particular about the ostensible merits and benefits of the law, President Obama and President Clinton took to the stage together on Tuesday to talk the whole thing out. I’m still a little confused about the supposed health-insurance monopolies dominating the insurance market that he describes at the beginning, but I digress — the point, as ever, is that ObamaCare was specifically designed to coerce young people into an unduly expensive system and has them pay the costs for coverage that they disproportionately will not need to use. The HHS study I think he’s citing in the middle there with the “100 bucks a month or so” is deliberately misleading, and unfortunately for the Obama administration, a lot of young people currently on the financial ropes because of their policies perpetuating a stagnating economy stand to save a lot of money by simply paying the penalty rather than actually taking out health insurance. Ruh roh.


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If they do they are dumber than assumed.

Schadenfreude on September 24, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Good luck with that.

princetrumpet on September 24, 2013 at 8:03 PM

I will pay the penalty. I will never -ever- buy anything government controlled.

TX-96 on September 24, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Plus, under obama’care’ they are kids in mommy’s apron…until they’re 26.

They’re asked to pay for the old farts.

DO NOT DO IT KIDS – the old farts have ruined your future. Let them die.

Schadenfreude on September 24, 2013 at 8:04 PM

They did not carry insurance before why would they now? In fact more of a reason not to because they can get insured instantly when they needed it… and never need to pay in.

watertown on September 24, 2013 at 8:04 PM

The funny part, even if they do show up premiums will be high as the free stuff brigade and the grifter class loot the system. Even funnier, young people including leftists know this to be true so many won’t show up. Why be a sucker when you can play the pre-existing card or just walk into an er.

rob verdi on September 24, 2013 at 8:04 PM

It’s not gonna work.

anotherJoe on September 24, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Bill Clinton on ObamaCare: “This only works if young people show up”

Well, since the youth is composed primarily of stupid people, I’d say they have nothing to worry about. Damn my peers.

nobar on September 24, 2013 at 8:06 PM

With so many young people unemployed or underemployed, how exactly are they supposed to pay the high premiums to make Obamacare work? It seems like plenty more would require subsidized care.

El_Terrible on September 24, 2013 at 8:06 PM

They did not carry insurance before why would they now? In fact more of a reason not to because they can get insured instantly when they needed it… and never need to pay in.

watertown on September 24, 2013 at 8:04 PM

This goes for anyone.

1. Forget about it.

2. If you’re really sick, show up. By the old law they can’t refuse you. By the new law they have to treat you even beyond “stabilization”, which was the only part in the old law. With obama’care’ they have to treat you forever, under any cost, and the ins. co. have to cover you with pre-existing, no questions asked.

The cow is dead but all will suck on her tits. Isn’t America a cool dumb country, starting with obama?

Schadenfreude on September 24, 2013 at 8:07 PM

You know why oldies with pre-existing conditions sign up? It’s right there, pre-existing conditions. The young don’t have those, except that the ones who do, will sign up. The healthy will sign up when they happen to get sick.

I just don’t know how the insurance companies who supported this shit didn’t figure that out at the beginning.

traye on September 24, 2013 at 8:08 PM

Young or old, just don’t show up.

If you really need it, they have to treat you, pre-conditions and all…it’s a cool/dumb land, beg. with obama.

I typed a more comprehensive comment but the mill ate it.

It didn’t like the dead cow’s “ti*s”.

Schadenfreude on September 24, 2013 at 8:08 PM

Never mind if they do get suckered into the system most are low wage earners so they are going to get credits.

watertown on September 24, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Single women can still get free birth control, right?

happytobehere on September 24, 2013 at 8:13 PM

When the “young people show up” Willy will be there checkin out the babes.

Akzed on September 24, 2013 at 8:14 PM

Bill Clinton on ObamaCare: “This only works if young people show up”

Oops. I thought he meant he was interviewing for interns again….

Wethal on September 24, 2013 at 8:15 PM

then they claim their tax credit so it won’t cost them much, 100 bucks a month or so.

So what happens if they don’t have the money to pay for the insurance until they get that generous tax credit? They are going to be got between the unstoppable force and the immoveable object.

chemman on September 24, 2013 at 8:15 PM

“We’ve got to have them in the pools, because otherwise all these projected low costs cannot be held if older people with preexisting conditions are disproportionately represented in any given state Period.”

FIFY Bubba, you idiot, now go away and do what you do best somewhere else, you pathetic little whore …

ShainS on September 24, 2013 at 8:15 PM

Another good ‘ol government-run Ponzi scheme. And the kiddies voted for this.

RobertMN on September 24, 2013 at 8:16 PM

…B J is so smart!

KOOLAID2 on September 24, 2013 at 8:16 PM

so it won’t cost them much, 100 bucks a month or so.

equanimous on September 24, 2013 at 8:17 PM

TRANSLATION:

It only works if people who will use it the least, contribute to it as well.

listens2glenn on September 24, 2013 at 8:18 PM

Who in their right mind will sign up for it when you can pay a smaller penalty tax and just wait until someday when you get sick/injured and need it — and then use it?

It destroys the entire concept of insurance

ShainS on September 24, 2013 at 8:18 PM

LOLOLOLOL. In other words this only works if young people pay for everyone who can’t afford it.

Dusty on September 24, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Bill Clinton on ObamaCare: “This only works if young people show up”

Oops. I thought he meant he was interviewing for interns again….

Wethal on September 24, 2013 at 8:15 PM

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Thanks Wethal, I needed that laugh. : )

listens2glenn on September 24, 2013 at 8:20 PM

Trapped in a co-worker’s car on the way home tonight, I had to listen to how it was really great for President Clinton to interview President Obama, and about how their elevated discourse on Healthcare was simply because they’re both so intelligent and so wonky (unlike, she continued, other past presidents who shall remain nameless).

There was no escape to be had.

Revenant on September 24, 2013 at 8:20 PM

It destroys the entire concept of insurance…

ShainS on September 24, 2013 at 8:18 PM

it isn’t insurance it is a tax on being alive…

equanimous on September 24, 2013 at 8:21 PM

Do you know what percent of a young person’s income is represented by $100 per month? $1200 per year?

And they will likely not step in a doctor’s office in that time. If they do they will pay a couple hundred bucks get an antibiotic… and go another year without stepping inside a doctor’s office.

Is that fair?

And besides that, $1200 can pay a pretty nice lap top and game system. If they are really free to do what they want with the money they work to earn, why can’t they buy things appropriate to their age?

These kids were born into a free country. Their ancestors lived hard lives to give them the free country they inherited… and now one bill and they have far less freedom.

Obama stripped them of their birthright of freedom.

petunia on September 24, 2013 at 8:22 PM

I think there’s a deeper meaning to all this than is being reported. Young people use health care disproportionately less than the old do. That’s why the first step in establishing a single-payer system was medicare, for the old. The support of young people is invaluable to the folks trying to foist state-run health care on us precisely because the young will be subsidizing the old. Same old shit, different day. (cf. social security)

gryphon202 on September 24, 2013 at 8:23 PM

When do people get the tax credits? Do they have to wait to get their taxes done in 2014? 2015?

I’m looking at Obamacare prices in CA (online calculators) and the bronze plan for 2 adults here would run around $600 a month. How many people can afford to spend that much money with little disposable income on hand?

El_Terrible on September 24, 2013 at 8:24 PM

You’ve got to have everybody lined up.

I’m sure Willy will be in line with everyone else.

He should go join a monastery and shoot himself.

Akzed on September 24, 2013 at 8:25 PM

“This is only works if we force young people to show up.”

-DNC tagline 6 months from now

They were going to use “Arbeit Macht Frei” but it didn’t poll well with focus groups.

Bishop on September 24, 2013 at 8:28 PM

The truth is kids are going to be forced to buy something that they wont use very much to pay for something old people will use too much. But clinton, being the lying POS that he is, would never explain it in that manner

rik on September 24, 2013 at 8:33 PM

The real question: is Sandra Fluke going to have to pay for her own birth control or not?

VastRightWingConspirator on September 24, 2013 at 8:34 PM

Got my wallet in my back pocket. Come at me, grandma!

Jeddite on September 24, 2013 at 8:36 PM

So the young people coming into the work force, and lucky enough to find a part-time job, or a job where they’ll work less than 30 hours per week; will gladly pay for insurance they don’t really need and can’t really afford.

Yeah, they’ll do that!

GarandFan on September 24, 2013 at 8:39 PM

You’ve got to have everybody lined up. – Billy Jeff “Bubba” Clintoon

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Never has there been a more authoritarian assertion in the history of authoritarian assertions. Chilling in its cold, calculated dehumanization and mercantile use of human beings, this is nothing but modern day slavery by Democrats under the guise of “doing what’s best for you.” I plan to resist, every step of the way… every step.

ExpressoBold on September 24, 2013 at 8:40 PM

The funny part, even if they do show up premiums will be high as the free stuff brigade and the grifter class loot the system. Even funnier, young people including leftists know this to be true so many won’t show up. Why be a sucker when you can play the pre-existing card or just walk into an er.

rob verdi on September 24, 2013 at 8:04 PM

I’m waiting for the gummint to force the life-insurance companies to offer no-pre-existing condition policies.

slickwillie2001 on September 24, 2013 at 8:44 PM

And it isn’t just the monthly premium…it is the thousands of dollars in deductibles, the high co-pays etc….this thing is so far from the free they had in their heads it’s pathetic. And just like in the UK our standard of living will drop like a rock because every spare penny that people have will go towards this “free” healthcare one way or another.

Caseoftheblues on September 24, 2013 at 8:44 PM

Based on some of the “on the street” interviews, I wonder how many youts understand that the have to buy the policy whether they want to or not?

Where are all the feminists who used to cry “Keep your laws out of my healthcare decisions!!” or..”I demand the right to choose!!”?
Hypocrites.

Mimzey on September 24, 2013 at 8:48 PM

What ahppens to all the actuaries ?

rik on September 24, 2013 at 8:49 PM

I’m not sure what world these people live in, but we are homeowners and in our 40s and a hundred bucks a month is a lot of money. A hundred bucks of month for younger people with no jobs? Seriously, these people are delusional.

Kristamatic on September 24, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Seriously, these people are delusional.

Kristamatic on September 24, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Can’t be said enough.

Mimzey on September 24, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Yes, and with incomes already diminished by the Bush/Obama era, not to mention the job losses, it’s going to be harder to convince young people to “show up” than it might have been 10 years ago.

rickv404 on September 24, 2013 at 8:53 PM

I’m not sure what world these people live in, but we are homeowners and in our 40s and a hundred bucks a month is a lot of money. A hundred bucks of month for younger people with no jobs? Seriously, these people are delusional.

Kristamatic on September 24, 2013 at 8:51 PM

A $100 a month after government subsidies. Its far more expensive before the tax credit.

El_Terrible on September 24, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Revenant on September 24, 2013 at 8:20 PM

Well I hope you took the opportunity to point out how eloquent they sounded whilst explaining how all of us will be paying a hell of a lot more for “affordable” insurance. And how the failure of the young to participate will only exacerbate the situation. See? You can use words like “whilst” and “exacerbate” and your friend will be duly impressed – and perhaps they’ll have a better appreciation of how f’d up our country is going to be once Obamacare is fully implemented.

Hill60 on September 24, 2013 at 9:02 PM

No young people I know can spare $100/month for something they don’t want. Nor do they want to. We KNOW why Bill Clinton wants young people to show up though. ;)

ctmom on September 24, 2013 at 9:04 PM

What ahppens to all the actuaries ?

rik on September 24, 2013 at 8:49 PM

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Interesting and effective in a subliminal kind of way… it evokes the National Health Service of Great Britain.

ExpressoBold on September 24, 2013 at 9:06 PM

for example, if young people show up, and even if they buy the cheapest plan, then they claim their tax credit so it won’t cost them much, 100 bucks a month or so.

A hundred bucks a month for a single young person’s health insurance? LOL Right now a pretty good plan for such a person through an employer should cost around $40 a month.

ddrintn on September 24, 2013 at 9:07 PM

You’ve got to have everybody lined up.

You know who else lined people up?

CurtZHP on September 24, 2013 at 9:11 PM

How many won’t file taxes to avoid the fine, too?

Add one,, me.

Screw these tyrants. I’m done with them. All out personal revolt, but I hope some trenches get dug. I doubt I’m alone.

You ain’t getting 9.5% more of my check. You just aren’t.

wolly4321 on September 24, 2013 at 9:15 PM

You’ve got to have everybody lined up. – Billy Jeff “Bubba” Clintoon Fredrich Engels

FIFY

rik on September 24, 2013 at 9:24 PM

So Bill says it’s a Ponzi scheme.

bgibbs1000 on September 24, 2013 at 9:32 PM

So then what happens when the government stages a massive robbery and none of the victims show up?

I have a feeling it involves a wrecked train.

Gingotts on September 24, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Well I hope you took the opportunity to point out how eloquent they sounded whilst explaining how all of us will be paying a hell of a lot more for “affordable” insurance. And how the failure of the young to participate will only exacerbate the situation. See? You can use words like “whilst” and “exacerbate” and your friend will be duly impressed – and perhaps they’ll have a better appreciation of how f’d up our country is going to be once Obamacare is fully implemented.

Hill60 on September 24, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Hard to do when they’re your boss also.

Revenant on September 24, 2013 at 9:35 PM

the point, as ever, is that ObamaCare was specifically designed to coerce young people into an unduly expensive system and has them pay the costs for coverage that they disproportionately will not need to use.

Hey, I’m probably not going to die, so I should just cancel that expensive life insurance policy that some idiot suggested I purchase to protect my family.

Mr. Arkadin on September 24, 2013 at 9:36 PM

They don’t have jobs, they have a mountain of student loan debt, and they are playing video games at mom and dad’s because they can’t afford to move out. Fat chance. Thanks, Barry!

Philly on September 24, 2013 at 9:47 PM

Bill Clinton on ObamaCare: “This only works if young people show up”

So, do we have to be nice to this crook the next time he goes to the hospital?

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 24, 2013 at 9:53 PM

Go away, you dirty old man. Your schmoozing with the other con artist is mighty tiresome.

onlineanalyst on September 24, 2013 at 10:13 PM

I’m glad the serial adulterer, rapist, disbarred, impeached, godless reprobate had a chance to weigh in on this.

Murphy9 on September 24, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Bill Clinton on ObamaCare: “This only works if young people show up”

Exactly, without the massive new tax on young people, ObamaCare will be unsustainable.

RJL on September 24, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Bill Clinton on ObamaCare: “This only works if young people show up”

He was talking about his member

Murphy9 on September 24, 2013 at 11:18 PM

What ahppens to all the actuaries ?

rik on September 24, 2013 at 8:49 PM

It’s okay; everybody’s going to die any day now from AGW anyway.

(Actually, that’s a very good question.)

AesopFan on September 25, 2013 at 12:40 AM

Go back to the whore house.

pat on September 25, 2013 at 3:05 AM

It’s not gonna work.

anotherJoe on September 24, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Like the OWS crowd?

Even the non OWS you people are not going to show up. THEY HAVE NO MONEY. They have no jobs, they have dim future prospects.

When the aristocracy grants amnesty, the you people of whom Bubba speaks will be completely screwed.

dogsoldier on September 25, 2013 at 5:30 AM

Oh and Joe, you’re spot on! Sorry. Mot enough caffeine to post yet.

dogsoldier on September 25, 2013 at 5:31 AM

What they are not saying out loud is that, while they need the young and healthy to “show up”, they will even more greatly need the elderly and disabled to “go away”.

justltl on September 25, 2013 at 7:26 AM

Remember the promise that young people could stay on their parents policies until age 26? Well, not so much.

The expiration date on that promise has arrived, at least for many college students. Aetna, working through universities it insures, has decided one way to raise money for ZeroCare is to require kids to buy policies. Your parents already have one and you’re on it? Oh, says Aetna (concern trolling voice begins) “We want you to have quality insurance.” Not that lousy policy your parents have, and that you’re getting a free ride on.

Noooooo, we want you to have (and especially pay for) your own, quality policy.

MTF on September 25, 2013 at 7:29 AM

This only works if young people are suckers.

Chris of Rights on September 25, 2013 at 9:00 AM

This is a difficult decision:
Do you
1. pay thousands in premiums for coverage you don’t need to support and prop up the Obama “Affordable” Care Act and our genius president, or
2. Pay a $90 fine at the end of the year??

No. I guess it isn’t that difficult.

stefano1 on September 25, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Had TV on mute as I was surfing channels last night and caught Clinton’s body language.

I stopped to see…..he was slouching in his chair with his right leg sprawled out and his chin resting on a tenuous left forefinger (body language screaming doubt and disagreement. Another shot had utter disgust all over his face, which was almost a grimace).

Then o’s face appeared and he was talking in that way in which he blows out his words with his cheeks. I turned the sound on just in time to hear him say “Their premiums will cost less than a cellphone bill (I think that’s what he used as an example). It’s done (or something like that). It’s that simple.” Camera panned back at Clinton who was still slouched with his hand holding his chin. Doubt all over his face and almost hate on his face.

He knew the guy was lying. And, looked embarrassed for having to be on the same stage with him. Then, the scene replayed from when he and o first walked on stage. Clinton’s lipped were pressed tight as he walked behind o.

Not sure when this was filmed, but Clinton’s disgust with this guy was obvious.

avagreen on September 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM