Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on September 23, 2013 by Allahpundit

President Obama is “likely” to meet with congressional leaders this week about funding the government, the White House said Monday.

“I think it’s likely that the president will meet with leaders,” Carney told reporters aboard Air Force One. “I don’t have a time for that or a day for that. But here’s the bottom line: Congress needs to act responsibly in order to ensure that the government does not shut down.”

***

Whether or not Senate Republicans defeat cloture, the question will be whether Harry Reid will demand a government shutdown to force Obamacare on every American. We should not shut down the government, and I hope Reid and President Obama do not do so.

Regardless, the House should stand its ground, and if Reid kills this Continuing Resolution then the House should pass smaller CRs one at a time, starting with the military. Dare Reid to keep voting to shut down the government.

Once Senate Republicans unite, red-state Senate Democrats will be next. And that is how we win — by continuing to mobilize the American people to hold every elected official accountable.

Americans are speaking loud and clear. They don’t want to lose their health plans and be forced into Obamacare exchanges, keep their businesses small to avoid the law’s penalties, and let bureaucrats and politicians in Washington make their health care decisions. Let’s listen.

***

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and many of his rank and file are poised to cast votes this week that will effectively rebuke Sen. Ted Cruz’s effort to filibuster a stopgap spending bill that would keep the government funded starting Oct. 1…

Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican who is up for re-election and faces a tea party challenge, didn’t mince words about the problem with the tactics being employed by his fellow GOP senators.

“I think we’ll take up the House bill because it’s a good bill. I can’t imagine filibustering the bill that I like from the House. There will be a vote to take out the defunding of Obamacare. It will be a majority vote,” Graham said Monday on Fox News. “And I’m hoping some Democrats will side with all Republicans to keep the defunding in place, but I doubt it.”

***

As leaders, McConnell and Cornyn can’t make GOP senators do anything; individual lawmakers are too independent for that. But the decision does set the example of Republicans willing to risk the wrath of the most dedicated defunders to oppose what they believe is an unworkable plan. And that leaves the Cruz-Lee proposal in a difficult place.

At this point, it is completely unclear how many Republicans will support the Cruz-Lee strategy. The plan depends on support from at least 41 of the Senate’s 46 Republicans. Given the position taken by McConnell and Cornyn, plus the pointed criticism directed at the plan by other Republicans, it seems unlikely Cruz and Lee will meet that goal.

A source in the Lee camp says the defunders expected the leadership not to go along. Now, the source says, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is preparing to shape the legislation like the two-part plan House Majority Leader Eric Cantor tried, and failed, to pass in the House. “Reid has set this up just like the Cantor plan,” says the source. “It gives the GOP a cover vote to say they supported defunding Obamacare but ultimately results in funding it. Once again, they’ve found a way to avoid being accountable. House conservatives rejected this scheme when Cantor proposed it. It should make it easier to reject now that it’s Reid’s proposal.”

***

***

We disagree with Dionne’s assertion that “people don’t get hooked on bad programs,” and we don’t even accept that Social Security and Medicare are good ones. But those programs are, in contrast with ObamaCare, well designed for the objective of sustaining political support. Whereas the benefits they deliver are tangible, their destructive effects are diffuse and deferred. The burden of the payroll tax is psychologically eased by the fiction that it is a retirement investment. And even if younger workers doubt that they’ll get much out of the system, most have parents or grandparents who do.

ObamaCare, by contrast, will impose hardships on a great many Americans in order to give benefits to complete strangers.

Another difference is that whereas past social programs had bipartisan backing in Congress and broad public support, ObamaCare has never had either. Thus only Democrats are politically invested in it. Non-Democrats have little incentive to be patient if it gets off to a bad start, and Democrats have a lot to lose if it fails. That explains their emotional need to believe that it is sure to be a great success. The alternative is the Palin scenario along with, for them, political and ideological humiliation. To our mind that is the likeliest path to repeal of ObamaCare: As Ulysses Grant observed: “I know no method to secure the repeal of bad or obnoxious laws so effective as their stringent execution.”

Do conservatives like Cruz really believe that ObamaCare will win over the masses if it isn’t stopped now? We don’t know, but we suspect them of an element of cynicism. We aren’t the first to point out that one man who can’t lose in this confrontation is Ted Cruz, who has so raised his profile among Republicans that there is talk of a 2016 presidential campaign.

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“He’s [Cruz] going to emerge somewhat bloodied, because he’s going to have critics not only from the Democratic Party, but also some from within the Republican Party,” said Craig Shirley, the conservative PR man who’s penned biographies of both Ronald Reagan and Newt Gingrich, the latter of whom was another polarizing conservative involved in a government shutdown. “But I think he’s going to be enhanced as a force within the Republican Party and American politics.”

If the rise of Obamacare was the catalyzing moment for the Tea Party, then a shutdown could give insurgent conservatives an upper hand in their protracted struggle against the GOP establishment for control of the Republican Party.

“Win, lose or draw, the Tea Party and the conservatives have routed the establishment wing of the party,” said Shirley, pointing to House Republican leaders’ decision to pursue legislation that defunds Obamacare after having shelved a more modest proposal.

Conservative groups like the Club for Growth and Heritage Action – while not strictly Tea Party groups, per se – will have demonstrated a commanding degree of influence over the modern Republican Party if they manage to hold enough GOP lawmakers together to prevent party leaders from reaching an agreement to avoid a shutdown.

***

The GOP, of course, didn’t do so well in the Gingrich-Clinton faceoff, and many Republican leaders obviously fear a repeat, where they get blamed for the president’s refusal to compromise. But for Obama, there are risks, too. One is that the government shutdown happens, and nobody cares much — which has pretty much been the story of the sequester, our last budget bugbear. Faced with a tiny percentage cut in government, most voters yawned, or cheered, or moved on oblivious. Obama’s biggest worry should be that if big government shuts down, the same thing will happen.

Another risk is that a shutdown will contribute to an already growing sense of chaos and incompetence at the top. Obama can blame Republicans all he wants, but his party controls the White House and one house of Congress — two-thirds of the elected levers of power in Washington. If he can’t run the country with the White House and the Senate … well, maybe he just can’t run the country. After Syria, he’s lost a lot of credibility abroad; if he can’t keep the government from shutting down at home, he’s likely to lose credibility here as well, no matter how much finger-pointing he does. Ultimately, if the country seems to be in chaos, it’s the president who gets blamed.

The truth is, Obama would be better off cutting a deal with the Republicans. ObamaCare implementation, scheduled for Oct. 1, is going terribly and it seems very unlikely that it will be anything other than what former supporter Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., correctly characterized as a “train wreck.” In fact, they’ve already had to implement delays and exemptions because of problems. And now there’s word that the software doesn’t work… Obama should be trying to work something out, instead of engaging in brinkmanship.

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Via RCP.

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Cruz!!!!!!!!!!!!

KCB on September 23, 2013 at 10:42 PM

B9?

KCB on September 23, 2013 at 10:44 PM

I am so alone….

KCB on September 23, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Just me and Cruz…

KCB on September 23, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Love Cruz.

He inspires me. Gives hope. Not trying to be corny, but he does.

So appreciative for all he does.

bluegill on September 23, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Never mind.

KCB on September 23, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Bar’s open. What’s everybody drinking?

CurtZHP on September 23, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Cruz is actually putting up a fight.

bluegill on September 23, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Oh, Dear Lord!

KCB on September 23, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Just me and Cruz…

KCB on September 23, 2013 at 10:44 PM

…oh you’ll have another admirer soon…with a fin and scales

KOOLAID2 on September 23, 2013 at 10:46 PM

UnLeash the Cruz Kraken,er wait,

that might get misconstruded somethings!!

canopfor on September 23, 2013 at 10:48 PM

The GOP, of course, didn’t do so well in the Gingrich-Clinton faceoff, and many Republican leaders obviously fear a repeat,

I read that Billy Jeff was read to cave, but Dole called Clinton up and gave away the company store.

The GOPe are always more vicious towards conservatives because their ‘principles’ of me, me, me, bring them into closer alignment with Dems.

INC on September 23, 2013 at 10:49 PM

The elite need their balls crushed.

wolly4321 on September 23, 2013 at 10:49 PM

‘Toons of the Day: Still Failing ‘n Flailing After All These Years

Resist We Much on September 23, 2013 at 10:46 PM

…those are great!

KOOLAID2 on September 23, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Sorry, busy watching Oakland being schooled by the Broncos

:)

PolAgnostic on September 23, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Evening All!!

CoffeeLover on September 23, 2013 at 10:50 PM

I saw Ken running this way so I let him budge ahead of me 4 times. Then I stepped out of line to pee and buy a hot dog. By then I didn’t care about being first. It’s not like getting a mention on Twitchy.

SparkPlug on September 23, 2013 at 10:50 PM

herp derp
-stinkfish

Murphy9 on September 23, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Hi CL. Let’s brew a pot of Java.

SparkPlug on September 23, 2013 at 10:52 PM

… Obama should be trying to work something out, instead of engaging in brinkmanship.

What could Dog Eater possibly “work out” of a plan that even he calls ObamaCare, it holds his name and therefore every ounce of his considerable ego; the man would rather die than to see his signature disaster be undone.

Bishop on September 23, 2013 at 10:52 PM

SparkPlug on September 23, 2013 at 10:52 PM

:) right behind ya

CoffeeLover on September 23, 2013 at 10:53 PM

President Obama is “likely” to meet with congressional leaders this week about funding the government, the White House said Monday.
===============================================================

Oh sure,

which means,Obama will be calling,from the 4th hole,a sand trap,
on some/from, glorious golfing Country Club!!

canopfor on September 23, 2013 at 10:54 PM

An Ass masquerading as a President once found a Doctor’s white lab coat which had been left out in the sun to dry. He put it on and spoke to his countrymen. All bowed, both men and women, and he was a proud Ass that day. In his delight he lifted up his voice and brayed treatments and prescriptions and timetables and qualifications randomly and incoherently and unleashed mindless and ravenous bureaucrats upon the land to look for trouble, find it everywhere, diagnose everything incorrectly and then in a very grouchy manner force Doctors to misapply the wrong remedies, and then everyone knew him for the Ass he really was.

Cheshire Cat on September 23, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Both my senators need to be destoyed.

They are scum.

wolly4321 on September 23, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Kasie Hunt ‏@kasie 3h
*********************

Cruz’s going through this exercise

is an attempt

to shift blame

for any shutdown

more squarely onto Harry Reid’s shoulders.
==========================================

https://twitter.com/kasie

canopfor on September 23, 2013 at 7:35 PM

canopfor on September 23, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Strange feeling. I’ve already said everything I want to say.

Axe on September 23, 2013 at 10:56 PM

GOPe are a bunch of girly men who prolly use electric staplers because regular staplers are only for us proles.

Actually it’s worse than that but I don’t want to make you puke.

SparkPlug on September 23, 2013 at 10:56 PM

** Cruz Alert **
*****************

Kasie Hunt ‏@kasie 2h

Sen. Cruz will be recognized to speak tomorrow afternoon on the Senate floor. #popcorn
======================

https://twitter.com/kasie

canopfor on September 23, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Axe on September 23, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Well just lisp it. That might be fun. Or mime with murmured dipthongs .

SparkPlug on September 23, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Wet sponges, and mccain would vote the right way,

wolly4321 on September 23, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Okay loving the Blacklist. James Spader is so deliciously creepy.

gophergirl on September 23, 2013 at 11:00 PM

‘Toons of the Day: Still Failing ‘n Flailing After All These Years

Resist We Much on September 23, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Resist We Much:Lol,..I’m try’n to remove me smirk-:0

canopfor on September 23, 2013 at 11:00 PM

I’m sure you chowder heads would get all clammed up if I started making Axe utter dipthongs with Cheeto_Os breathe.

Maybe maestro RWM could coax him with her baton.

SparkPlug on September 23, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Glad I bought guns.

wolly4321 on September 23, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Wet sponges, and mccain would vote the right way,

wolly4321 on September 23, 2013 at 10:59 PM

wolly4331:Ugh,ya had to mention Mc Cain:)
=========================================

Which Longtime GOP Senator Apparently ‘F***ing Hates’ Ted Cruz?
Sep. 23, 2013 9:02am
********************

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) has been ruffling feathers since his arrival in Washington this year. Including some on his own side of the aisle.
This Longtime GOP Senator Reportedly F**king Hates Ted Cruz

Secretary of State John Kerry speaks with Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) in Washington, D.C., Sept. 18, 2013. (Getty Images)

In fact, according to a new profile in GQ magazine, the Texas senator has earned the intense dislike of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.)

“He f***ing hates Cruz,” an adviser to Sen. McCain told GQ’s Jason Zengerle. “He’s just offended by his style.”
(More….)
==========

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/09/23/which-longtime-gop-senator-apparently-fking-hates-ted-cruz/

canopfor on September 23, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Ooopsie: ‘Family glitch’ in health law could be painful

Congress defined “affordable” as 9.5% or less of an employee’s household income, mostly to make sure people did not leave their workplace plans for subsidized coverage through the exchanges. But the “error” was that it only applies to the employee — and not his or her family. So, if an employer offers a woman affordable insurance, but doesn’t provide it for her family, they cannot get subsidized help through the state health exchanges.

slickwillie2001 on September 23, 2013 at 11:04 PM

But here’s the bottom line: Congress needs to act responsibly in order to ensure that the government does not shut down.”

So Hussein, WHO exactly in the Congress is craving for a shut down ?

burrata on September 23, 2013 at 11:04 PM

canopfor on September 23, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Who is Kassie Hunt?

CoffeeLover on September 23, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Recent studies suggest that a mouth full of Cheeto_Os can impair your ability to articulate multisylabic werds proply

SparkPlug on September 23, 2013 at 11:05 PM

I’m sure you chowder heads would get all clammed up if I started making Axe utter dipthongs with Cheeto_Os breathe.

Maybe maestro RWM could coax him with her baton.

SparkPlug on September 23, 2013 at 11:01 PM

SparkPlug:

Are you goin to Cam it,er,Live Streaming it?
(sarc):)

canopfor on September 23, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Just don’t file.

wolly4321 on September 23, 2013 at 11:06 PM

This really happened:

10:55 pm September 23, 2013
getalife wrote :

Our President will get a clean cr because he is competent.

The gop are incompetent.

Another victory for President Obama.

From Drudge headline link at WSJ.

the new aesthetic on September 23, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Let her burn now.
We never may get another chance to rebuild.
I hope…
They fail.

seesalrun2 on September 23, 2013 at 11:07 PM

canopfor on September 23, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Pay pal Pay per view will make me rich. We could buy a beaver farm in canadia.

SparkPlug on September 23, 2013 at 11:07 PM

**Boinking F’n JACK*SS’S**??

Life-sized statue of President Reagan torched In Temecula, Calif., – @CBSLA

4 mins ago from losangeles.cbslocal.com by editor
=====================================================

Life-Size Statue Of Ronald Reagan Torched In Temecula
September 23, 2013 7:35 PM
**************************

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/09/23/life-size-statue-of-ronald-reagan-torched-in-temecula/

canopfor on September 23, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Never mind.

KCB on September 23, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Priceless.

wolfsDad on September 23, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Man, I miss getalife. Such a dummy.

Barred on September 23, 2013 at 11:09 PM

We. Have serious problems………………………….

I think maybe they come to a head. Really fast.

wolly4321 on September 23, 2013 at 11:10 PM

OT: After 21 long and miserable years, the Pittsburgh Pirates are in the playoffs!

Woot!!

PatriotGal2257 on September 23, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Strange feeling. I’ve already said everything I want to say.

Axe on September 23, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Me too..all I got left is raving profanity.

bazil9 on September 23, 2013 at 11:13 PM

canopfor on September 23, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Pay pal Pay per view will make me rich. We could buy a beaver farm in canadia.

SparkPlug on September 23, 2013 at 11:07 PM

SparkPlug:

Lol,..Capitalism Babyee,and ooh,a new Province….Canadia,(sarc),
me like!:)

canopfor on September 23, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Me too..all I got left is raving profanity.

bazil9 on September 23, 2013 at 11:13 PM

bazil9:

(I’m kidding)

Keep YE Powder Dry:0

canopfor on September 23, 2013 at 11:17 PM

Spark- you are right about the cheetos. Especially the flaming ones. You has to wash them down wih suds. And that does indeed afdevt my monosdylistizc speeeeech.

wolly4321 on September 23, 2013 at 11:17 PM

On the other hand:

The first play on a fraud/lie/commie Democrat Party evil use of lies and fraud to put in action one of their tax and spend programs to control the people of the U.S. via the fraud.

Global Warming, CO2 kills, the Al Gore (ObamaCare) type fraud.

The latest IPCC U.N. paper fraud document is up over on

http://www.wattsupwiththat.com blog

Clear it is all lies just like this ObamaCare.

The Republicans did not fight it like they should have and others had to do the digging and the few the proud the real Americans have brought in down to the ground and it is failing now before the commie nut job Democrat eyes.

The same will happen to ObamaCare notwithstanding how this Ted Cruz action now.

It is a start, just like Dr. Judit Curry when she back when the CO2 lie started, no one thought there was any way a few with the truth would win.

We have won.

Obama Care will fall, but the fight has to start.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on September 23, 2013 at 11:18 PM

In fact, according to a new profile in GQ magazine, the Texas senator has earned the intense dislike of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.)

“He f***ing hates Cruz,” an adviser to Sen. McCain told GQ’s Jason Zengerle. “He’s just offended by his style.”

McLame will be dead and buried as Cruz sits in the White House, reflecting on what America would have been like with a President McLame……

redguy on September 23, 2013 at 11:18 PM

OT: After 21 long and miserable years, the Pittsburgh Pirates are in the playoffs!

Woot!!

PatriotGal2257 on September 23, 2013 at 11:13 PM

PatriotGal2257:Correct:)
========================

MLB Playoffs 2013

Pittsburgh Pirates clinch a playoff spot for the first time in 21 years – @CBSSports

8 mins ago from http://www.cbssports.com by editor
===============================================

http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on September 23, 2013 at 11:19 PM

OT: After 21 long and miserable years, the Pittsburgh Pirates are in the playoffs!

Woot!!

PatriotGal2257 on September 23, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Heh, Texas Rangers fans know that feeling as well……

Congratulations!

redguy on September 23, 2013 at 11:19 PM

If I said what I’d really like to do to progs I’d ge the hammer.

wolly4321 on September 23, 2013 at 11:21 PM

If they are not going to defund the bill, they need to enforce the entire monstrosity with no exemptions for anything or anyone. The tweaks just soften the blow. Everyone needs to feel the pain or it will never go away.

txmomof6 on September 23, 2013 at 11:22 PM

Well,I thought this BombShell was going to be dropped today,so
here it is!!
=============

Clinton camp tells Huma:
************************

Dump Weiner or lose your job in Hillary’s 2016 presidential-run campaign team
*************

Huma Abedin must choose between continuing to work for Hillary Clinton and continuing to be married to Anthony Weiner

By Daily Mail Reporter

PUBLISHED: 21:34 GMT, 22 September 2013 | UPDATED: 11:14 GMT, 23 September 2013
**************

‘Huma has a choice to make,’ a close associate told

New York magazine.

http://nymag.com/news/features/hillary-clinton-2013-9/

‘Does she go with Anthony, or does she go with Hillary?’

If, as anticipated, Hillary Clinton makes a run for the White House in 2016 she will not want to run the risk of having a political liability such as Weiner anywhere near her campaign team.
(More…)
=========

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2429620/Clinton-camp-tells-Huma-Dump-Weiner-lose-job-Hillarys-2016-presidential-run-campaign-team.html

canopfor on September 23, 2013 at 11:24 PM

McLame will be dead and buried as Cruz sits in the White House, reflecting on what America would have been like with a President McLame……

redguy on September 23, 2013 at 11:18 PM

redguy:Love to see that,maybe SarahCuda as VP!:)

canopfor on September 23, 2013 at 11:26 PM

Ugh,one more,and me is done,er,for tonight,unless a nuke goes off!

Photo: A @billclinton selfie from CGI2013 as we sat down to talk for an upcoming Wired story – @BillGates

2 mins ago from twitter.com/BillGates by editor
==================================================

https://twitter.com/BillGates/status/382340762442428416

canopfor on September 23, 2013 at 11:28 PM

And even if younger workers doubt that they’ll get much out of the system, most have parents or grandparents who do.

ObamaCare, by contrast, will impose hardships on a great many Americans in order to give benefits to complete strangers.

Yet another complete crock of $#!% from the WSJ, as usual! So the so-called benefits of Obamacare will all be to “complete strangers”, not to peoples friends and family members? Nobodies brothers, sisters, mothers or fathers will get benefits from Obamacare? The WSJ is little more than a Keynesian, corporate fascist propaganda rag.

FloatingRock on September 23, 2013 at 11:30 PM

We need RINO’s as they show U.S. what cowards do given the chance.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on September 23, 2013 at 11:31 PM

You have your normal BS.

But every now and then it gets kinda serious.

Folks laughed when I called it years ago, a socialist pusche.

That’s what it is.

We will fight in the streets.

wolly4321 on September 23, 2013 at 11:35 PM

Regardless, the House should stand its ground, and if Reid kills this Continuing Resolution then the House should pass smaller CRs one at a time, starting with the military. Dare Reid to keep voting to shut down the government.

Niice. Develop the pawns first.

unclesmrgol on September 23, 2013 at 11:36 PM

Crazy guy from the other night just made a reappearance. A little closer to home and a little more violent in his rhetoric.

Cop car just screeched into the parking lot and got him. Pretty cool.

gophergirl on September 23, 2013 at 11:36 PM

canopfor on September 23, 2013 at 11:28 PM

Even people named “Bill” need validation by the other.

unclesmrgol on September 23, 2013 at 11:37 PM

The GOP, of course, didn’t do so well in the Gingrich-Clinton faceoff, and many Republican leaders obviously fear a repeat, where they get blamed for the president’s refusal to compromise.

Let’s see:

Senate:

GOP picked up 2 seats.

GOP +2

House

End of the 1994 Congress:

Democrats: 209

Republicans: 223

1996 Congress:

Democrats: 206

Republicans: 228

GOP +5
.
.
Sure, Clinton beat Dole, but who actually thought Bob Dole would win? He turned in the worst Republican performance since Goldwater.

1964 Presidential Election:

Johnson: 486 EVs, 43,127,041, 44 + DC states, 61.1%

Goldwater: 52 EVs, 27,175,754, 6 States, 38.5%
.
.
1968 Presidential Election:

Nixon: 301 EVs, 31,783,783, 32 states, 43.4%

Humphrey: 191 EVs, 31,271,839, 13 + DC states, 42.7%

Wallace: 46 EVs, 9,901,118, 5 states, 13.5%
.
.
1972 Presidential Election:

Nixon: 520 EVs, 47,168,710, 49 states, 60.7%

McGovern: 17 EVs, 29,173,222, 1 + DC, 37.5%
.
.
1976 Presidential Election:

Carter: 297 EVs, 40,831,881, 23 states + DC, 50.1%, 82% of the Hispanic vote

Ford: 240 EVs, 39,148,634, 27 states, 48.0%, 18% of the Hispanic vote
.
.
1980 Presidential Election:

Reagan: 489 EVs, 43,903,230, 44 states won, 50.8%, 37% of the Hispanic vote

Carter: 49 EVs, 35,480,115, 6 states + DC, 41.0%, 56% of the Hispanic vote
.
.
1984 Presidential Election:

Reagan: 525 EVs, 54,455,472, 49 states won, 58.8%, 34.82% of the Hispanic vote

Mondale: 13 EVs, 37,577,352, 1 state + DC, 40.6%, 66% of the Hispanic vote
.
.
1988 Presidential Election:

Bush: 426 EVs, 48,886,097, 40 states won, 53.4%, 30.85% of the Hispanic vote

Dukakis: 11 EVs, 41,809,074, 10 states + DC, 45.7%m 70.15% of the Hispanic vote
.
.
1992 Presidential Election:

Clinton: 370 EVs, 44,909,806, 32 + DC, 43.0%

Bush: 168 EVs, 39,104,550, 18 states, 37.5%, 25% vote of the Hispanic
.
.
1996 Presidential Election:

Clinton: 379 EVs, 47,401,185, 31 + DC, 49.2%

Dole: 159 EVs, 39,197,469, 19 states, 40.7%, 21% of the Hispanic vote (worse than even that ‘extreme Conservative,’ Mitt Romney!)
.
.
2000 Presidential Election:

Bush: 271 EVs, 50,456,002, 30 states, 47.9%

Gore: 266 EVs, 50,999,897, 20 states + DC, 48.4%
.
.
2004 Presidential Election:

Bush: 286 EVs, 62,040,610, 31 states, 50.7%

Kerry: 251 EVs, 59,028,444, 19 + DC, 48.3%
.
.
2008 Presidential Election:

Obama: 365 EVs, 69,498,516, 28 + DC + NE-02, 52.9%

McCain: 173 EVs, 59,948,323, 22 states, 45.7%
.
.
2012 Presidential Election:

Obama: 332 EVs, 65,907,213, 26 + DC, 51.1%

Romney: 206 EVs, 60,931,767, 24 states, 47.2%
.
.

Dole had the worst Republican showing since 1964. He was a LOSER. He was NEVER going to beat Clinton – government shutdown or not.

Now, what else came from the government shutdowns?

Welfare Reform

4 ‘Balanced’ budgets

Resist We Much on September 23, 2013 at 11:37 PM

Against all odds :)

What a land full of worms!

NO, the US is NO longer exceptional.

Schadenfreude on September 23, 2013 at 11:38 PM

What then?

wolly4321 on September 23, 2013 at 11:39 PM

The GOP, of course, didn’t do so well in the Gingrich-Clinton faceoff

Unmitigated lie.

We did great and got Welfare Reform through the use of it.

The GOPe got a black eye but came out swinging and lying their butts off why this lie is so well known. They forced Gingrich out of the Speakership with fake ethic violations. The GOPe is the worst enemy the GOP has.

Steveangell on September 23, 2013 at 11:39 PM

Vont-ils revenir à endroit caché dans le Tres de la Science, de la raison et de la pensée?

^ Can someone help me with this? The first part? The capitalization is throwing me.

Axe on September 23, 2013 at 11:42 PM

canopfor on September 23, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Who is Kassie Hunt?

CoffeeLover on September 23, 2013 at 11:04 PM

CooffeeLover:Sorry,I went twitter surfing again:)
==================================================

Kasie Hunt Verified account
@kasie

Covering politics for @NBCNews. Go Blue. Retweets not endorsements.

Washington, DC · nbcpolitics.com
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canopfor on September 23, 2013 at 11:45 PM

Harry Reid is THE MOST EVIL PERSON ALIVE!!

He is More EVIL than ANY ISLAMFASCIST!

He is More EVIL than Saddam Hussein!

He is More EVIL than Adolf Hitler!

williamg on September 23, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Will they go back to/revisit placing the Three: science, reason and thought into hiding?

Schadenfreude on September 23, 2013 at 11:50 PM

That was for Axe’s

Axe on September 23, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Schadenfreude on September 23, 2013 at 11:50 PM

McLame will be dead and buried as Cruz sits in the White House, reflecting on what America would have been like with a President McLame……

redguy on September 23, 2013 at 11:18 PM

redguy:Love to see that,maybe SarahCuda as VP!:)

canopfor on September 23, 2013 at 11:26 PM

Even if they do get elected, they won’t be running the show. The fact that this country is not run by the American people is becoming increasingly apparent…or should be to anyone paying attention.

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 23, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Sophie, I hope you feel better.

Schadenfreude on September 23, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Does that include you Shade? Not exceptional?

I get your point.

Maybe it’s a lost cause. No where to go.

I don’t know, rather buck up and fight.

Montana has a valid point. What do you want to do,,, give up?

Some will never give up. Got no where else to float to.

wolly4321 on September 23, 2013 at 11:52 PM

Evenin’, all… Late to the party, as usual. Drinking a cold beer and watching Homeland with my hunnie…

PointnClick on September 23, 2013 at 11:54 PM

Psssshhht!

PointnClick on September 23, 2013 at 11:55 PM

(That was a beer opening)

PointnClick on September 23, 2013 at 11:56 PM

Will they go back to/revisit placing the Three: science, reason and thought into hiding?

Schadenfreude on September 23, 2013 at 11:50 PM

Thanks, Schad. :)

Axe on September 23, 2013 at 11:59 PM

williamg on September 23, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Maybe he is, but the people who kept him are the ultimate culprits.

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Does that include you Shade? Not exceptional?

Unique alright… exceptional? I gave that up. I’m striking. No need to toil for these fools, from both sides :)

Montana has a valid point. What do you want to do,,, give up?

Some will never give up. Got no where else to float to.

wolly4321 on September 23, 2013 at 11:52 PM

I’m not giving up. I just strike and laugh, pretty much honey badger it. My take was about all the worms in DC, from both sides, and those here, also from both sides.

Schadenfreude on September 23, 2013 at 11:59 PM

Sophie, I hope you feel better.

Schadenfreude on September 23, 2013 at 11:51 PM

THx. I’m trying.

Resist We Much on September 24, 2013 at 12:00 AM

BREAKING:

EXCLUSIVE–SOURCE: MCCONNELL, CORNYN WHIPPING VOTES AGAINST TED CRUZ

Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and Senate Minority Whip John Cornyn are using their leadership positions to pressure other Republicans to oppose Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) in his campaign to defund Obamacare.

“Right now in the Senate, Mitch McConnell and John Cornyn are actively whipping Senators to shut down debate on the House continuing resolution so that Harry Reid can gut it with just 51 votes,” a senior congressional staffer with intimate knowledge of the situation said in an email to Breitbart News. “Unbelievably, they actually are leading the fight to fully fund Obamacare.”……

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/23/Exclusive-McConnell-Cornyn-whipping-votes-against-Ted-Cruz

takeamericabackin10 on September 24, 2013 at 12:01 AM

One for the road Peeps/PeepEttes:)

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canopfor on September 24, 2013 at 12:02 AM

The elite need their balls crushed.

wolly4321 on September 23, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Not sure they ever had any.

Eren on September 24, 2013 at 12:02 AM

I . . . Um.

Axe on September 24, 2013 at 12:04 AM

Thanks, Schad. :)

Axe on September 23, 2013 at 11:59 PM

De rien :)

Schadenfreude on September 24, 2013 at 12:07 AM

Some have kids to worry about. I don’t. But get those that do.

You let it burn they pay for it. They are gonna pay for it anyway.

Hopefully not dying.

wolly4321 on September 24, 2013 at 12:08 AM

I . . . Um.

Axe on September 24, 2013 at 12:04 AM

This is for you, the extraterrestrials :)

Schadenfreude on September 24, 2013 at 12:08 AM

Sohpie – I hope you feel better…..

My SHYGF is sick, too…………

Take care……..

williamg on September 24, 2013 at 12:08 AM

One great Senator-Ted Cruz. One pathetic Senator-John Cornyn. Cornyn needs to go!

mobydutch on September 24, 2013 at 12:10 AM

MCCONNELL ❤s Obamacare.

CORNYN ❤s Obamacare.

Resist We Much on September 24, 2013 at 12:16 AM

Some have kids to worry about. I don’t. But get those that do.

You let it burn they pay for it. They are gonna pay for it anyway.

Hopefully not dying.

wolly4321 on September 24, 2013 at 12:08 AM

The looters/moochers have destroyed the land, for many generations.

Not putting the breaks on it creates only more hurt for the kids.

Leftists don’t understand that the cow is already dead. Rightists enable the left and are, thus, even more culpable.

Schadenfreude on September 24, 2013 at 12:16 AM

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