Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on September 22, 2013 by Allahpundit

Nearly every Republican candidate running for Senate in 2014 backs the GOP’s push to use the threat of a government shutdown to defund ObamaCare — a sign of how popular they believe the plan is with conservative primary voters

Reps. Tom Cotton (Ark.), Paul Broun (Ga.), Phil Gingrey (Ga.), Jack Kingston (RGa.), Bill Cassidy (R-La.), likely candidate Steve Daines (Mont.), and Shelley Moore Capito (W.Va.) all voted Friday for a House continuing resolution to fund the government until mid-December while defunding ObamaCare…

“There is no downside to coming out against defunding ObamaCare if you’re a Senate candidate,” said longtime GOP strategist Ron Bonjean…

“You’re not part of Washington and you’re talking about people in Washington being part of the problem. Most primary voters will nod their heads and say ‘this makes a lot of sense.’ They’re not thinking about the byzantine political spider webs that occur from trying to make that work.”

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“It’s clear where the public in my district is,” said Rep. Jim Bridenstine (R-Okla.), a tea party firebrand. “They want Obamacare repealed. They want it defunded. They want it dismantled.”…

“This is all a result of redistricting,” a Republican strategist told me. “The only election these guys have to worry about is the Republican primary. The only danger they face is from the right.”

According to ratings compiled by Larry Sabato of the University of Virginia, only 28 of the House’s 233 Republicans have even a theoretical chance of losing their seats to a Democrat next year; the other 205 are safe as long as they win their primaries. (The same is true of most House Democrats, of course.)

Outside the conservative bubble of the House GOP conference, the politics of the budget standoff look different. Karl Rove, former political advisor to George W. Bush, has warned that the only winner in a government shutdown would be Obama. “This is one thing that can rescue him,” Rove said on Fox News.

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For Republicans who aren’t part of the defunding drive, it was a jaw-dropping proposal. We’re supposed to filibuster our own bill? they ask. We pushed the House to pass a continuing resolution with a defunding measure attached — and now we’re supposed to kill it in the Senate? What sense does that make? And even if it made sense, they say, the plan is simply not possible.

That response has caused deep resentment among defunding proponents. No, they aren’t proposing filibustering their own bill. “What we are filibustering is a procedural maneuver by Reid so that he will not be able to gut the bill that we want a vote on,” says the aide.

“Our demand is for Reid to do one of two things,” the aide continues. “Either agree that all amendments post-cloture have a 60-vote threshold, or bring the amendment up pre-cloture. McConnell can demand those things.” Translated into less insidery language, that basically means forcing Reid to adopt a procedure that would allow Republicans, if they stay united, to stop Reid from taking out the Obamacare provision.

The only problem is that Republicans, in the minority, cannot force Reid to do that. “It would require UNANIMOUS consent to change the vote threshold,” says one aide opposed to the defunding maneuver. “You really think Reid, Schumer, Bernie Sanders are all going to agree to make it EASY to strip Obamacare? Give me a break. And what leverage will they [the defunders] have to ‘force’ that? They will have just filibustered their own bill and shut down the government. They will be solely responsible for shutting down the government. Why would a single Democrat lift a finger to help them — much less give away Obamacare?”

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In an appearance on Washington D.C.’s Fox 5 to preview his Sunday show, Wallace said, “I will tell you I have never in my time in Washington seen a party so upset with one of its own members.”…

“Since we announced that Ted Cruz was going to be on the show, I’ve been getting background research and questions going after Cruz not from Democrats but from other Republicans,” Wallace said on Fox 5. “They really feel he has put them in this corner that they can’t get out of gracefully and they’re not very happy with him.”

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Those of us who hang in there supporting a major political party with our energy, time, and contributions would like to believe that that party would praise principled conservatives like Ted Cruz and Mike Lee for following through on campaign promises. We’d like to believe that the GOP establishment would applaud the way these bold leaders have rallied the grassroots to their cause. But, no, such praise would require a commensurate level of guts and leadership, and the permanent political class in D.C. is nothing if not gutless and rudderless.

We’re now, once again, subjected to the “anonymous sources” backstabbing game. The Capitol Hill cowards are rushing to anonymously denounce Senator Cruz to any reporter with a pad and pen.

Welcome to our world, Ted. The same people have been denouncing conservatives like me for years (right after they ask for help fundraising for themselves or endorsing the latest candidate they’ve suckered into paying their exorbitant consulting fees). We can compare shiv marks next time we meet, my friend.

If the Senate doesn’t get behind Ted Cruz’s efforts to defund Obamacare, it won’t be because of any failure on Ted’s part. It’ll be because there weren’t enough principled leaders to stand with him, and that would be a tragic loss, not for Ted, but for America.

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[Rand] Paul said Republicans still expect members to fight the law, which national polls show only about a third of Americans support.

“I’m acknowledging we can’t probably defeat or get rid of Obamacare,” he said. “But by starting with our position of not funding it, maybe we get to a position where we make it less bad.”

Some Senate Republicans, including would-be 2016 presidential rivals Ted Cruz of Texas and Marco Rubio of Florida, have said they would vote to refuse to pay for the health care law, even if it meant shutting down portions of the government. Paul has called closing down the government “a dumb idea.”

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“You say this is brute political power,” a very-unconvinced Wallace said. “It’s Senate Rule 22, which has been around for years. It’s part of the Senate rules, and it says after you allow debate and take cloture, that you can pass an amendment by Senate majority. That’s the rule!”

“You’re right, that is one rule,” Cruz responded. “But there is another rule that says it takes sixty votes to get cloture…If the majority’s going to run the minority over with a train, the minority has the ability to stop them…Any vote for cloture, any vote to allow Harry Reid to add funding for Obamacare with just a fifty-one vote threshold—a vote for cloture is a vote for ObamaCare.”

“If Harry Reid kills this bill in the Senate, I think the House should hold its ground and should begin passing smaller continuing resolutions one department at a time,” Cruz said. “It should start with a continuing resolution focused on the military. Fund the military, send it over, and let’s see if Harry Reid is willing to shut down the military just because he wants to force ObamaCare on the American people.”

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Oklahoma senator Tom Coburn, known in the president’s first term as “Dr. No” for his tendency to place holds on bills he views as unconstitutional or otherwise objectionable, is not on board with the push to defund Obamacare. The reason? “We do not have the political power to do this,” he said on Sunday. He chocked the existence of the movement, led in the Senate by Republican senators Ted Cruz and Mike Lee, to a ”tremendous demand among special interests” to dismantle the president’s signature legislation.

Coburn, a physician, maintained that Republicans will not allow a government sutdown over the issue of Obamacare and, more importantly, simply do not have the votes to do so. ”We are not about to shut the government down over the fact that we cannot, only controlling one house of Congress, tell the president that we are not going to fund any portion of this, because we can’t do that,” he told CBS’ Bob Schieffer.


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Blind Man

novaculus on September 23, 2013 at 1:26 AM

Bmore

Schadenfreude on September 23, 2013 at 1:27 AM

Blue Monday

Schadenfreude on September 23, 2013 at 1:27 AM

Everybody Have Fun Tonight

novaculus on September 23, 2013 at 1:32 AM

She Blinded Me With Science

Featuring Buzz Aldrin

novaculus on September 23, 2013 at 1:36 AM

listens2glenn on September 23, 2013 at 1:20 AM

Understood..But are you willing to possibly lose the House over a defund strategy that is doomed to failure??..:)

Dire Straits on September 23, 2013 at 1:40 AM

TO HELL WITH POLES.

listens2glenn on September 23, 2013 at 1:06 AM

He means polls. L2G has nothing against the Polish people.

Axe on September 23, 2013 at 1:08 AM

In Poland?

(ducks)

viking01 on September 23, 2013 at 1:18 AM

Sorry, we don’t accept Czechs…

PointnClick on September 23, 2013 at 1:51 AM

Only down side to a gubRmint shutdown is those poor people that depend on social security but that’s what happens when all ponzi schemes come to an end…. it never is pretty.

roflmmfao

donabernathy on September 23, 2013 at 2:39 AM

Hey everybody should flood KingJesters Blog.

He works hard and deserves our support. Send him clicks.

SparkPlug on September 23, 2013 at 3:34 AM

If it can’t be done, then why is Obama running around acting so frightened of it?

Don L on September 23, 2013 at 3:59 AM

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/21/palin-ted-cruz-defund-obamacare

williamg on September 23, 2013 at 1:26 AM

Wow. Over 13,000 posts and counting. The first comment received over 2500 likes. Those numbers have to be close to Breitbart records. Makes me think it would have been great for Hotair to do a post on that specific topic. Sure seems like a lost opportunity.

KMav on September 23, 2013 at 4:15 AM

He [Tom Coburn] chocked the existence of the movement, led in the Senate by Republican senators Ted Cruz and Mike Lee, to a ”tremendous demand among special interests” to dismantle the president’s signature legislation.

Coburn OK’s OPM Director After Staffers Get Obamacare Waiver

On Wednesday, immediately after the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) issued a proposed ruling that allowed the federal government to subsidize the health insurance premiums of Congressional staffers–even though that may not be allowed under the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare)–Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) released the hold he had placed on President Barack Obama’s nominee to head the agency.

FloatingRock on September 23, 2013 at 4:46 AM

Obamacare for thee but not for me and my staffers, says Tom Coburn.

FloatingRock on September 23, 2013 at 4:50 AM

Tom Coburn and his staffers apparently feel that they are more important than special interests like the majority of American people.

FloatingRock on September 23, 2013 at 4:52 AM

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/21/palin-ted-cruz-defund-obamacare

williamg on September 23, 2013 at 1:26 AM

Wow. Over 13,000 posts and counting. The first comment received over 2500 likes. Those numbers have to be close to Breitbart records. Makes me think it would have been great for Hotair to do a post on that specific topic. Sure seems like a lost opportunity.

KMav on September 23, 2013 at 4:15 AM

Heh, nice. I see what you did there. :-)

Harbingeing on September 23, 2013 at 5:11 AM

If it can’t be done, then why is Obama running around acting so frightened of it?

Don L on September 23, 2013 at 3:59 AM

Glad I’m not the only one who noticed this. Zero is in a panic. You can always tell with a punk like him. They telegraph their panic.

They are easy to beat. Putin demonstrated this for all the world to see.

dogsoldier on September 23, 2013 at 5:30 AM

Gee I just read they held the Emmys. Did anyone watch?

dogsoldier on September 23, 2013 at 5:31 AM

the ted cruz/sarah palin bashing continues on morning joe this am…

idiots

cmsinaz on September 23, 2013 at 6:20 AM

FloatingRock on September 23, 2013 at 4:52 AM

yup

cmsinaz on September 23, 2013 at 6:21 AM

Gee I just read they held the Emmys. Did anyone watch?

dogsoldier on September 23, 2013 at 5:31 AM

I’ve decided to stop supporting people who hate me, hate my way of life, and work tirelessly against me by tearing down everything I try to build.

. . . can’t really see how I can keep buying movie tickets and then turn around to criticize Obama for arming terrorists. I’d be arming progressives.

Makes me an extremist, of course.

Axe on September 23, 2013 at 6:22 AM

the lsm will make sure to place ALL the blame on the gop’s feet…

cmsinaz on September 23, 2013 at 6:23 AM

^ General statement making no distinction between TV, movies, or internet broadcast porn. :)

Axe on September 23, 2013 at 6:23 AM

the ‘old’ gop are treating the ‘young’ gop as adolescents who think they are always right but they are wrong in this instance
-lib hack on morning joe

cmsinaz on September 23, 2013 at 6:27 AM

the lsm will make sure to place ALL the blame on the gop’s feet…

cmsinaz on September 23, 2013 at 6:23 AM

Arrow pointing to me, not you, of course. :)

And, yup. They gots work to do. Bet they’re giddy. They finally get to go back on offense. Defense makes them miserable.

Axe on September 23, 2013 at 6:28 AM

Good Morning, Patriots! …and, Trolls.

Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged.

– John Quincy Adams
My take: “Massacre in Kenya: Americans Involved, Americans in Danger”

kingsjester on September 23, 2013 at 6:38 AM

Understood..But are you willing to possibly lose the House over a defund strategy that is doomed to failure??..:)

Dire Straits on September 23, 2013 at 1:40 AM

I think it unlikely the HOR would be lost. Those GOP who bail on WE The People and don’t hold firm on the DEFUND CR will be primaried and We The People will then elect a GOP, Conservative Leader who *WILL* put their welfare FIRST, before ‘the Party’ … before any Cronies in the Healthcare Lobbyist Posse

exodus2011 on September 23, 2013 at 6:42 AM

“If Harry Reid kills this bill in the Senate, I think the House should hold its ground and should begin passing smaller continuing resolutions one department at a time,” Cruz said.

Not a bad idea….force Harry and Senate Dems to kill them.

William Eaton on September 23, 2013 at 6:47 AM

Axe on September 23, 2013 at 6:28 AM

:)

cmsinaz on September 23, 2013 at 6:49 AM

kingsjester on September 23, 2013 at 6:38 AM

another good one KJ

and the lsm focuses on Cruz and Palin instead….

cmsinaz on September 23, 2013 at 6:52 AM

just love how the lsm is defending the LAW of the LAND and yet have NO problem with obama uses executive orders to go around the laws in the books…

hypocrites

cmsinaz on September 23, 2013 at 6:53 AM

cmsinaz on September 23, 2013 at 6:52 AM

Thank you, ma’am!

That’s alright. Americans have already told Scooter how we feel about supporting al Qaeda.

kingsjester on September 23, 2013 at 6:55 AM

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/22/Palin-to-Chris-Wallace-Release-Names-of-Top-Republicans-Who-Encouraged-You-to-Trash-Cruz

williamg on September 23, 2013 at 2:41 AM

Has prissy Chris Wallace released the info yet?

bluegill on September 23, 2013 at 6:58 AM

kingsjester on September 23, 2013 at 6:55 AM

and it appears it went in one ear and out the other, didn’t it…

cmsinaz on September 23, 2013 at 7:02 AM

Has prissy Chris Wallace released the info yet?

bluegill on September 23, 2013 at 6:58 AM

I want to know what Republicans are out there providing opposition research on one of their own. At the same time Cruz is calling for unity, these traitors are working a different agenda. They should be named and, if in leadership, promptly removed from office.

We are one week out from a potential govt. shutdown and those working toward disunity need to be called out for the scumbags they are.

Happy Nomad on September 23, 2013 at 7:05 AM

We are one week out from a potential govt. shutdown and those working toward disunity need to be called out for the scumbags they are.

Happy Nomad on September 23, 2013 at 7:05 AM

+1

cmsinaz on September 23, 2013 at 7:13 AM

just love how the lsm is defending the LAW of the LAND and yet have NO problem with obama uses executive orders to go around the laws in the books…

cmsinaz on September 23, 2013 at 6:53 AM

It may or may not be a thread on HA later on but let me go on the record now expressing just how disgusted I am at the thin-skinned rat’s speech as what was supposed to be a memorial service for the Navy Yard victims. The lazy stupid bastard pulled a Wellstone and turned it into an anti-gun speech. He began with an “I” statement- Since becoming President I have been to five of these memorial ceremonies……. I’m sure we’ll be seeing some Executive Orders this week. Prepared in the aftermath of Newtown.

The lazy stupid bastard showed no empathy for the victims or their family. None. He shows more passion for his final four bracket in NCAA basketball. We as a nation should be ashamed that such a vile worthless human being is President.

Perhaps I’m too close to the actual situation. I was at one event over the weekend where one of the attendees had to leave early for the funeral of one of the Navy Yard victims. I know people who work at the Navy Yard. One of the members of my church works in Bldg. 197 and was there last Monday. For all these reasons I’m not in the mood for any left wing nonsense or even Ed’s moderate “to be fair” BS when it comes to the filthy rat-eared bastard.

Happy Nomad on September 23, 2013 at 7:13 AM

dear leader will spend more money and campaign for this LAW again this week
-mika

does she not hear what she is saying???

cmsinaz on September 23, 2013 at 7:15 AM

dear leader will spend more money and campaign for this LAW again this week
-mika

does she not hear what she is saying???

cmsinaz on September 23, 2013 at 7:15 AM

Two points for Mika.

First, there is no will in Congress to revive the gun-grabbing effort. If 20 children wasn’t enough to move the needle on this issue, 12 civil servants killed by a man with mental issues is not going to do it. We probably will see some Executive Orders but the thin-skinned rat does not have the political capital to push this issue again. His temper tantrum in the Rose Garden when the Senate didn’t pass his legislation was the last we’ll see of this until at least 2015.

Secondly, government is a week from being shut down. There is the UN speech this week. I would hope that the filthy bastard is working on THOSE things and not useless legislation this week.

Happy Nomad on September 23, 2013 at 7:25 AM

Happy Nomad on September 23, 2013 at 7:13 AM

i’m glad i missed it…

shameful

cmsinaz on September 23, 2013 at 7:26 AM

For all these reasons I’m not in the mood for any left wing nonsense or even Ed’s moderate “to be fair” BS when it comes to the filthy rat-eared bastard.
Happy Nomad on September 23, 2013 at 7:13 AM

I agree. I’m also through with the “let’s be fair” BS. Some of the people giving “moderate” polite commentary seem like they’d be just fine if Obama always got his way. There’s so little passion there.

I want to know what Republicans are out there providing opposition research on one of their own. At the same time Cruz is calling for unity, these traitors are working a different agenda. They should be named and, if in leadership, promptly removed from office.
We are one week out from a potential govt. shutdown and those working toward disunity need to be called out for the scumbags they are.
Happy Nomad on September 23, 2013 at 7:05 AM

Brilliantly put. I feel exactly the same way!

bluegill on September 23, 2013 at 7:28 AM

That’s alright. Americans have already told Scooter how we feel about supporting al Qaeda.

kingsjester on September 23, 2013 at 6:55 AM

…good take kj…and JugEars has been all over the TV on the subject! /

KOOLAID2 on September 23, 2013 at 7:48 AM

That’s alright. Americans have already told Scooter how we feel about supporting al Qaeda.

kingsjester on September 23, 2013 at 6:55 AM

What really ticks me off is that there is no consistency. We’re okay with supporting Al Qaeda in this contry’s conflict but not that one. This Al Qaeda affiliate is filled with budding Jeffersonian democrats but that one is a terrorist organization.

Much as I disagree with Ron/Rand Paul’s isolationist rhetoric, this is one part of the world where the United States should have stayed the hell out of the way and let the inmates sort it out for themselves.

Happy Nomad on September 23, 2013 at 7:53 AM

Much as I disagree with Ron/Rand Paul’s isolationist rhetoric, this is one part of the world where the United States should have stayed the hell out of the way and let the inmates sort it out for themselves.

Happy Nomad on September 23, 2013 at 7:53 AM

Yeah, and also stop bringing large parts of that part of the world here.

bofh on September 23, 2013 at 8:39 AM

But at the meeting, he met someone who had pulled off that exact feat: Utah senator-elect Mike Lee. Like Cruz, Lee had been a creature of the conservative legal movement, having clerked for Samuel Alito on the Supreme Court. Like Cruz, he had left Washington to become a government lawyer back home. And like Cruz, he had never before run for office. But he rode the Tea Party wave of 2010 into the Senate, ousting an incumbent Republican by running to his right. After the Federalist Society meeting, Lee and Cruz took a long walk around the Capitol. “We talked about every conceivable political and constitutional issue,” Lee recalls. “I concluded we were kindred spirits.”

Interesting article about Ted Cruz in GQ. Ted Cruz: The Distinguished Wacko Bird from Texas

Naturally Curly on September 23, 2013 at 8:40 AM

Gee I just read they held the Emmys. Did anyone watch?

dogsoldier on September 23, 2013 at 5:31 AM

I am embarrassed to admit, I half-watched. Daughter is an awards show junkie. Dear gawd, it was awful. Just awful. I couldn’t tell you one thing I remembered except they put a bunch of obits throughout the program. The kid from Glee who OD’d got a big send off by that mean, really tall, blonde lady… Strange.

Oh, I do remember the best speech. Eleven words:

“Thanks so much. Thank you so much. I gotta go. Bye.”

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2013/09/22/merritt-wever-clarifies-acceptance-speech-backstage-emmys/2851661/

If only they all could have been that gracious and short.

Fallon on September 23, 2013 at 9:41 AM

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/21/palin-ted-cruz-defund-obamacare

williamg on September 23, 2013 at 1:26 AM

Wow. Over 13,000 posts and counting. The first comment received over 2500 likes. Those numbers have to be close to Breitbart records. Makes me think it would have been great for Hotair to do a post on that specific topic. Sure seems like a lost opportunity.

KMav on September 23, 2013 at 4:15 AM

….’Zactly!

However – this is an Establishment Republican Blog……much more likely to skewer Palin and Cruz than to help them……….

williamg on September 23, 2013 at 9:23 PM

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