Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on September 21, 2013 by Allahpundit

President Barack Obama is once again warning House Republicans that he will not negotiate over a debt-ceiling increase, even as the U.S. government moves closer to its borrowing limit.

Obama called Speaker John Boehner Friday night to reiterate his hard-line stance. The Ohio Republican’s office said the president called to say “he wouldn’t negotiate with him on the debt limit.”

“Given the long history of using debt limit increases to achieve bipartisan deficit reduction and economic reforms, the speaker was disappointed but told the president that the two chambers of Congress will chart the path ahead,” a Boehner aide said in an email. “It was a brief call.”

***

“The key thing is we are going to negotiate over the debt limit. The president isn’t going to be able to say, ‘I’m just simply not going to talk with anybody,’ ” Rep. Tom Cole (R., Okla.) told reporters Friday…

The emergence of the defund campaign marks a shift that eclipses the Republican Party’s traditional focus on demanding spending cuts and long-term deficit-reduction measures in exchange for lifting the debt limit.

“The defunding or delay of Obama care has become pre-eminent,” said Rep. Tom Rooney (R., Fla.). “It’s a little frustrating to those of us who look at this time of year as the time to address the debt.”

***

And then comes Obama’s extraordinary claim that in the history of the United States, non-budget items have never been attached to the debt ceiling. He is essentially calling Speaker John Boehner and the other GOP congressional members extortionists.

Well, according to “Fact Checker” columnist Glenn Kessler of The Washington Post, the president’s claim is completely wrong. Going back decades, the debt ceiling bills have been linked to campaign-finance reform, Social Security, ending the bombing in Cambodia, voluntary school prayer, banning bussing to achieve integration, and proposing a nuclear freeze. Way back in 1982, then-Senate Majority Leader Howard Baker unleashed a free for all, allowing 1,400 non-germane amendments to the debt ceiling legislation. Kessler rightly gives Obama four Pinocchios.

Actually, in terms of renewing the government’s borrowing requirement, Boehner is proposing what I would term financially related, germane amendments. Though final decisions have not yet been made, the speaker is talking about a one-year delay of Obamacare, including all taxes and regulations related to the health plan, instructions for revenue-neutral tax reform, and additional instructions for entitlement reform, all as part of a one-year extension of the debt ceiling. Only the passage of the Keystone pipeline — a pro-growth job creator — could be termed non-germane.

***

A Democratic congressman from Virginia raised his voice on the House floor Friday and lamented how the Republican push to defund Obamacare makes him less “proud” to be a member of Congress.

“I used to be really proud of this institution,” Virginia Rep. Jim Moran said before the body voted Friday on a continuing resolution that defunds Obamacare. “I used to be able to go through my community and, many of those who have served as long as I have, know what it was like to be proud to be a member of Congress.”…

“We know what the government can do,” Moran said. “This bill doesn’t allow the government to do what it can to improve the lives of our people. We need to believe in this government again. We need to do what this Congress is meant to do!

***

A GOP-drafted resolution to keep the government operational until mid-December while cutting spending by defunding President Obama’s Affordable Care Act passed the House of Representatives Friday 230-189, almost entirely along party lines – except for three members who bucked their parties…

In a statement, McIntyre said, “Among many other crucial services, it is essential that we honor our senior citizens, veterans, and men and women in uniform by ensuring there is no delay in their monthly retirement checks, health care coverage or military benefits. Keeping our government operational is vital and today’s vote does that.”

Not surprisingly, McIntyre also cited his strong opposition to Obamacare.

“My record on the health care law has been crystal clear – I voted against it when it was first considered, have voted to repeal it dozens of times and today voted to defund it,” the North Carolina lawmaker said. “The need for health care reform is clear, but this law is not the right approach for our citizens, communities and businesses.”

***

Obama’s attempting to duplicate Clinton’s victory over Gingrich will fail on a number of fronts. First of all Obama v. Boehner doesn’t have the same ring as Clinton v. Gingrich…

ObamaCare obviously wasn’t popular in 2010 and stories of universities and hospitals as well as retailers and manufacturers cutting hours and laying people off to keep their health care costs from skyrocketing has not made it any more popular today.

Obama can’t hope to duplicate the chessboard as it was in 1995-96. I said after the shutdown in 1996 that a skilled White House, aggressively on message is an unstoppable political force in America.

Obama’s White House is not skilled (as he proved to the world over the past three weeks), and it has no message to stick to at all.

***

This bill has no chance of passing in the Senate, but that wasn’t the point. The point was to gum up the works and to force vulnerable Democrats in heavily red states to go on record as refusing to defund the health care law.

These Republicans aren’t afraid the law will fail as much as they’re afraid that it will succeed and become part of the fabric of the collective conscience — and worst yet, be a clear legacy victory for President Obama.

There is no more bitter Tea Party loss than a perceived Obama victory. The president is the focal point of the party’s frustrations. Tea Party representatives have been sent to Washington with a singular mission: obstruct Obama.

These Kamikaze members of Congress have made the House of Representative a house of horrors, where smart thinking is smothered, where rabble demand respect.

***

The focus on Boehner has been more intense because House Democrats have abdicated any meaningful role in passing legislation. Few bills are able to garner Democratic support, often not because of policy differences but because House Democratic leaders have decided they would rather wash their hands of responsibility for governing and, instead, focus on winning back the majority.

The role of the minority party is to be the “loyal opposition,” and Democrats have gotten it half right — they are opposed to everything House Republicans do, but there is not much loyal about it…

It is time for Democrats and the [tea party] No On Everything caucus to step up and become meaningful participants in the legislative process.

It is said that politics can make strange bedfellows. Progressives may say they bemoan the “radicalism” of the tea party, and tea party advocates may claim to despise the “tactics” of liberals, but the truth is that both sides have abdicated the most basic responsibilities of elected officials. Both sides are complicit in creating an environment in which nothing can be accomplished.

***

Benen ends with a line that resonates with us the people of Wisconsin: “Democracies aren’t supposed to work this way.” Back in 2011, we had weeks of loud protests with chanting over a drumbeat: “This is what democracy looks like.” And those were Democrats who’d lost the 2010 elections. They were making all the noise they could because they didn’t have the votes in the legislature, and yet they still shouted all day and night that what they wanted was democracy. The idea — to the extent that it made any sense — was that the minority opinion also matters and free expression and dissent are part of the process, adding friction and restraint to the imposition of the will of the majority.

But in Congress, there are members who form a majority in one house and a sizable minority in the other. These people were elected, and we have a system of separated powers that was designed to slow things down, force deliberation, and prevent the abuse of power.

There was a time when Obama said “I won.” It was arrogant back then, and in a democracy, that kind of arrogance invites comeuppance.

***

‘This is the United States of America,” declared President Obama to the burghers of Liberty, Mo., on Friday. “We’re not some banana republic.”

He was talking about the Annual Raising of the Debt Ceiling, which glorious American tradition seems to come round earlier every year. “This is not a deadbeat nation,” President Obama continued. “We don’t run out on our tab.” True. But we don’t pay it off either. We just keep running it up, ever higher. And every time the bartender says, “Mebbe you’ve had enough, pal,” we protest, “Jush another couple trillion for the road. Set ’em up, Joe.” And he gives you that look that kinda says he wishes you’d run out on your tab back when it was $23.68.

Still, Obama is right. We’re not a banana republic, if only because the debt of banana republics is denominated in a currency other than their own — i.e., the U.S. dollar. When you’re the guys who print the global currency, you can run up debts undreamt of by your average generalissimo. As Obama explained in another of his recent speeches, “Raising the debt ceiling, which has been done over a hundred times, does not increase our debt.” I won’t even pretend to know what he and his speechwriters meant by that one, but the fact that raising the debt ceiling “has been done over a hundred times” does suggest that spending more than it takes in is now a permanent feature of American government. And no one has plans to do anything about it. Which is certainly banana republic-esque.

***

But there’s also a faction on the far right of the Republican party who’ve convinced their leadership to threaten a government shutdown if they can’t shut off the Affordable Care Act. Some are actually willing to plunge America into default if they can’t defund the Affordable Care Act.

Think about that. They’d actually plunge this country back into recession – all to deny the basic security of health care to millions of Americans.

Well, that’s not happening. And they know it’s not happening.

The United States of America is not a deadbeat nation. We are a compassionate nation. We are the world’s bedrock investment. And doing anything to threaten that is the height of irresponsibility. That’s why I will not negotiate over the full faith and credit of the United States. I will not allow anyone to harm this country’s reputation, or threaten to inflict economic pain on millions of our own people, just to make an ideological point.

***

DAVID BROOKS: I’m Mr. Pollyanna on this. I think we’re — it will be fine.

I think what happened, there was a minority of House Republicans who upset the majority, upset the leadership. They wanted to have this big thing, we’re going to defund Obamacare, or else shut we’re going to down the government. The leaders didn’t really want to do this. They thought it was a dead end or, as they’re now calling it, a box canyon, which is the metaphor of the week.

And — so, but they have got these people. They are going to give them what they want, from pressure from the right. So they give them what they want. They pass this thing, no funding for Obamacare. It’s going to die in the Senate. And then I think they are going to come back or either fudge or cave in. And I suspect we will not be shutting down the government.


Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Comment pages: 1 2 3

…JugEars doesn’t negotiate…he tells or lies!

KOOLAID2 on September 21, 2013 at 8:33 PM

I will not allow anyone to harm this country’s reputation, or threaten to inflict economic pain on millions of our own people, just to make an ideological point.

…Val has ba11s!

KOOLAID2 on September 21, 2013 at 8:34 PM

I think what happened, there was a minority of House Republicans who upset the majority, upset the leadership.

…and then….there are those that don’t

KOOLAID2 on September 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM

What does it say about a government that has no control over debt? None! We bee-bop from one fiscal year to the next making a joke out of tax revenues that we give to people who cannot control their spending.

Why do we even go through the premise anymore of even talking about a debt ceiling?

We’re so lost.

smoothsailing on September 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM

OVER DA CLIFF,……
=====================

President Obama slams ‘faction on the right’ in Congress ‘willing to plunge America into debt’ if we don’t defund ObamaCare – @markknoller

Sep 20, 2013, 2:27 p.m. from twitter.com/markknoller by editor

canopfor on September 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM

How dare anyone contradict THE OBAMASSIAH!

GarandFan on September 21, 2013 at 8:38 PM

…when will the goof …quit giving speeches….campaigning…and actually do something?

KOOLAID2 on September 21, 2013 at 8:38 PM

President Barack Obama is once again warning House Republicans that he will not negotiate over a debt-ceiling increase, even as the U.S. government moves closer to its borrowing limit.

Yeah, and…?

Did the Universe suddenly stop because Obama read from a script or teleprompter?

Liam on September 21, 2013 at 8:39 PM

PELOSIUM RUNNETH AMUCK:

House Democratic Leader Pelosi, D-Calif.: ‘Either you don’t know what you are doing, or this is one of the most intentional acts of brutality that you have cooked up’ – @mikememoli

Sep 20, 2013, 10:20 a.m. by editor

canopfor on September 21, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Hussein only negotiates with those who want to hurt America and Americans.

burrata on September 21, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Pelosium Part Deux:

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., on floor during debate on GOP funding bill: ‘This place is a mess’ – @mikememoli

Sep 20, 2013, 10:16 a.m. by editor
======================================

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/house-gop-proposal-to-fund-government-defund-obamacare

canopfor on September 21, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Hussein only negotiates with those who want to hurt America and Americans.

burrata on September 21, 2013 at 8:40 PM

He doesn’t negotiate. He either surrenders to them or joins them.

Liam on September 21, 2013 at 8:41 PM

Mc Queeg weighs in:

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., says Senate ‘will not repeal or defund Obamacare’; ‘to think we can is not rational’ – @TPM

Sep 19, 2013, 4:39 p.m. from http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com by editor

canopfor on September 21, 2013 at 8:42 PM

” FRAUD “:
===========

Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., on budget vote: ‘Hopefully it will be a major step in letting people know that Ted Cruz is a fraud’ – @frankthorpNBC

Sep 20, 2013, 9:40 a.m. by editor
=====================================

canopfor on September 21, 2013 at 8:43 PM

canopfor on September 21, 2013 at 8:42 PM

The last thing we need around here is the liberal/Democrat/RINO concept of ‘rationality’.

Far as I’m concerned, McCain came back a stooge of Hanoi. The only question is about how willingly.

Liam on September 21, 2013 at 8:45 PM

President Obama slams ‘faction on the right’ in Congress ‘willing to plunge America into debt’ if we don’t defund ObamaCare – @markknoller

Sep 20, 2013, 2:27 p.m. from twitter.com/markknoller by editor

canopfor on September 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM

What!?

Axe on September 21, 2013 at 8:46 PM

OVER DA CLIFF,……
=====================

President Obama slams ‘faction on the right’ in Congress ‘willing to plunge America into debt’ if we don’t defund ObamaCare – @markknoller

Sep 20, 2013, 2:27 p.m. from twitter.com/markknoller by editor

canopfor on September 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM

I am watching this unfold..as I work in the insurance field..
I literally (no joke) feel like hurling every minuet of every day.
Count down to Over DA Cliff…collapse coming very quickly.

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 8:46 PM

House Speaker Boehner’s office says President Obama made a brief call this evening, reiterated he wouldn’t negotiate on the debt limit – @stevebruskCNN

Sep 20, 2013, 7:12 p.m. from twitter.com/stevebruskCNN by editor
====================================================================

canopfor on September 21, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Oh, thses two are good ones:

“DeadBeats”, and, “Crisis”:
—————————

President Obama: ‘Americans have worked too hard and too long … just to let politicians cause another crisis’ – live video

Sep 20, 2013, 2:24 p.m. by editor
=====================================

President Obama tells Ford workers that if Congress does not pass the debt ceiling, the United States ‘becomes a deadbeat’ – live video

Sep 20, 2013, 2:16 p.m. by editor
=====================================

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/us-debt-ceiling-debate-2013

canopfor on September 21, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Why do we even go through the premise anymore of even talking about a debt ceiling?

We’re so lost.

smoothsailing on September 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM

Yep.

It is, and will always now be (until inevitable currency devaluation and hyperinflation destroy the nation’s wealth) an exponentially rising debt floor

ShainS on September 21, 2013 at 8:54 PM

The United States of America is not a deadbeat nation.

Yeeeaahhh, we are a DOWNGRADE nation

We are a compassionate nation.

Compassionate towards jihad, compassionate towards drug cartels…etc etc.

We are the world’s bedrock investment.

For how long, nobody knows !

And doing anything to threaten that is the height of irresponsibility.

As an America hating marxist, that’s my job and I won’t let anyone else do it

That’s why I will not negotiate over the full faith and credit of the United States.

I don’t negotiate with Americans

I will not allow anyone to harm this country’s reputation, or threaten to inflict economic pain on millions of our own people, just to make an ideological point.

because that is my job, and my job only.
/

burrata on September 21, 2013 at 8:56 PM

…when will the goof …quit giving speeches….campaigning…and actually do something?

KOOLAID2 on September 21, 2013 at 8:38 PM

He’s personally stimulating the economy … one golf course at a time.

ShainS on September 21, 2013 at 8:58 PM

canopfor on September 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM

I am watching this unfold..as I work in the insurance field..
I literally (no joke) feel like hurling every minuet of every day.
Count down to Over DA Cliff…collapse coming very quickly.

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 8:46 PM

bazil9:

Yup,its finally at a Mexican Stand off,and I bet,after the Syrian
Spanking DeBauckle,

Hopey is going to War on the GOP,er,with more zest and zeal,
than ever before!!:)

canopfor on September 21, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Not raising the debt ceiling means that spending is capped to whatever the government takes in.

Payments on existing debt to debt holders continues.

There is no ‘default’ by the US government when it can only spend what it takes in and performs debt maintenance.

There are sudden cutbacks on promised spending, but that is promised spending and the government has an out in every single contract that it can cancel it for any reason or no reason whatsoever. You would think that with $2.5 trillion in revenue they could run a government without deficit spending to add to the debt. How about we give it a try and STOP THE SPENDING.

ajacksonian on September 21, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Sep 20, 2013, 2:27 p.m. from twitter.com/markknoller by editor

canopfor on September 21, 2013 at 8:36 PM

What!?

Axe on September 21, 2013 at 8:46 PM

Axe:Lol,yup,Lemmings heading for the edge!:)

canopfor on September 21, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Adjourn the House.

Turn out the lights.

Go home.

Save the country a ton of money.

Except for the Obamacare thing…

Got to kill it.

Before it kills us all.

coldwarrior on September 21, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Why wasn’t the most important message included?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/21/palin-ted-cruz-defund-obamacare

Midwestprincesse on September 21, 2013 at 9:04 PM

Axe:Lol,yup,Lemmings heading for the edge!:)

canopfor on September 21, 2013 at 9:02 PM

It would be a tragedy, Canada, if my people actually — heaven deliver us from even the thought — “plunged into debt.” :)

Axe on September 21, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Me thinks,this can be applied to Debt-Ceiling as well,Boehners infamous tweet!
================

John BoehnerVerified account ‏@johnboehner

It’s become sadly evident to me that the White House and Senate Democrats are just not serious yet about enacting real spending cuts

https://twitter.com/johnboehner/status/55289849791524864#
=========================================================

https://twitter.com/johnboehner

canopfor on September 21, 2013 at 9:07 PM

“Those Republicans are so stubborn that I refuse to negotiate with them”

- DingleBarry

Fenris on September 21, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Hopey is going to War on the GOP,er,with more zest and zeal,
than ever before!!:)

canopfor on September 21, 2013 at 8:59 PM

He is an unhinged, raving, demented, psycho who is awaiting his master piece unveiled to shatter America-Oct 1st.
I am on the ground..right in the middle..it will be crushing and multiple levels. I am literally sick.

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 9:09 PM

I’m just wondering why there’s no mention on Hot Gas (except for a few comments in various threads) of the massacre going on in the Kenya mall, courtesy of the ROP/Al Shebaab. The story has been going on all day, and is even headline material on the alphabet networks’ websites.

bofh on September 21, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Steyn wrote a great screed there. And a great observation by Althouse.

Typical BS from Obama. Does the guy ever stop lying?

I will not allow anyone to harm this country’s reputation, or threaten to inflict economic pain on millions of our own people, just to make an ideological point.

He ruined the country’s reputation attempting to make an ideological point on Syria. He much closer to being right on the latter, though, but only a little — he doesn’t threaten to inflict economic pain on millions “of our own people”, he just does it and has been for going on five years.

Dusty on September 21, 2013 at 9:13 PM

BREAKING NEWS……..September 21, 2023!!

The American government formally nationalized Kimberly-Clark and other paper industry companies today. Citing ongoing shortages the Federal authorities are looking into reports that company CEOs continued having toilet paper hoarded in their personal homes during recent months. The FBI may also pursue filing charges.
House Speaker Clyburn called corporate executives “insensitive at best, criminal at worst”.

MSNBC reports the Administration has promised that everyone will be able to keep their favorite toilet paper brands. And will not be limited to half a square per fecal event (contrary to reports on Fox News).

PappyD61 on September 21, 2013 at 9:13 PM

canopfor on September 21, 2013 at 9:02 PM

It would be a tragedy, Canada, if my people actually — heaven deliver us from even the thought — “plunged into debt.” :)

Axe on September 21, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Axe:

Ahem,me is going to Flogg myself,for the humour injection,(sarc),
and maybe this is Hopeys Architecture to happen!:)
==================================================

First lady: Obama should have been an architect

By Juliet Eilperin, Published:
September 20 at 3:44 pm
***********************

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/09/20/first-lady-obama-should-have-been-an-architect/

canopfor on September 21, 2013 at 9:15 PM

MSNBC reports the Administration has promised that everyone will be able to keep their favorite toilet paper brands. And will not be limited to half a square per fecal event (contrary to reports on Fox News).

PappyD61 on September 21, 2013 at 9:13 PM

PappyD61:

Boyo,I wonder what Sheryl Crow is thinking about this!!
(sarc)

canopfor on September 21, 2013 at 9:17 PM

I need some relief and went to see the Axe Sketch Book.
:)

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Funny how the president is quick to negotiate with our enemies like the Taliban and Iran, but he won’t negotiate with his fellow Americans when the very future of our country is at stake. Sad.

anotherJoe on September 21, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Good article on this by S.P. at Breitbart.

predator on September 21, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Re: Al Shebaab terror attack in Kenya – last week Al Qaeda threatened to attack Barky’s homeland. Apparently, it was a mistake to assume that they meant the US…

bofh on September 21, 2013 at 9:22 PM

just do it

pat on September 21, 2013 at 9:24 PM

I told you. Prepare for the coming apockalips.

SparkPlug on September 21, 2013 at 9:24 PM

The acropolis is on the brink of a precipice

SparkPlug on September 21, 2013 at 9:25 PM

I need some relief and went to see the Axe Sketch Book.
:)

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Those are pics of me. Sort of. :)

lol — no goatee.

And I made the “scrapbook” separate, with the silly stuff, so the main blog entries could all be the hard-hitting, controversial masterpieces they are. Or will be. Or could be. Look, I have a plan and it involves things I’m not typing.

PS: Thanks for getting naked and standing on your head last night.

BBL — House duties.

Axe on September 21, 2013 at 9:31 PM

At least we’ve finally found someone with whom Obama WON’T negotiate:

48% of the population of the United States of America.

Darin on September 21, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Axe on September 21, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Really? Heh..your kinda cute. ;)
Hmmm…Spark..

HA! Sparky has his own entry!
Bravo*

LOL@Collette and Goatee.

Naked on my head…?! What the hell goes on here in the middle of
the night? Never-mind..I don’t wanna know~ may scar me.

My apologies..once long ago you linked it to me ..stick people cartoon..I didn’t realize it was your site.

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 9:42 PM

My apologies..once long ago you linked it to me ..stick people cartoon..I didn’t realize it was your site.

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 9:42 PM

Don’t worry about October, b9. You are going to be alright. You’re someone who can navigate it; you’ve navigated this far. Try not to carry the whole f’upedness of the whole thing, just where it overlaps your life, and remember you are someone who’s seen the ocean from 30, 60, 90 feet below the surface. :)

Axe on September 21, 2013 at 9:50 PM

I reality inversion is just mind boggling.
Somehow, not going farther into debit is “defaulting on debit”, and the people who are trying to save the economy from it’s current state of government induced stagnation are “threatening to bring down the economy” and “have already prevented recovery”.

Count to 10 on September 21, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Axe on September 21, 2013 at 9:50 PM

Thx man.
I am on medical leave but still having to be involved.
Thank you for the supportive words.

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 9:54 PM

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 9:09 PM

Sorry to hear that. I always look forward to October. The rivers stop boiling and the sky has wet stuff falling out of it.

It also has two of the best holidays ever.

cozmo on September 21, 2013 at 9:59 PM

cozmo on September 21, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Thx Coz.

You mean Halloween and World Vegetarian Day? ;)

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 10:04 PM

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 10:04 PM

Well, there is that.

There is also the day some euro-trash discovered some other place…and October is the month that brought me onto this earth. Though, for some folks, that is more of a day to mourn than to celebrate.

cozmo on September 21, 2013 at 10:08 PM

As Obama explained in another of his recent speeches, “Raising the debt ceiling, which has been done over a hundred times, does not increase our debt.” I won’t even pretend to know what he and his speechwriters meant by that one,

barry, or should we just call him el jefe is a master confidence man. Skilled in sophistry to an extraordinary degree really. Just think of trying to say this yourself if you were in front of a large audience. The sureness that he won’t be called out as a sophist empowers him.

the meaning of the sentiment is plain..that he raising the debt ceiling is not the cause of the debt…the cause is spending too much relative to income. And to the LIV, the corrupt, the leeches that feed off of graft from the machine it provides a fig-leaf. That is what he is all about, providing the fig leaf while his machine plunders the country

three card monte comes to mind…lots of shills, and a clueless mark.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-card_Monte

r keller on September 21, 2013 at 10:09 PM

cozmo on September 21, 2013 at 9:59 PM

lol…I see.
Hopefully it falls on the weekend for ya.

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 10:11 PM

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 9:09 PM

People are starting to get their cancellation notices now. They were raising cain on Twitchy.

Barred on September 21, 2013 at 10:12 PM

People are starting to get their cancellation notices now. They were raising cain on Twitchy.

Barred on September 21, 2013 at 10:12 PM

I know…
This is just the beginning.

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 10:15 PM

Well, I’m just thankful that we have such an intelligent and non-partisan president in the White House. I can have all the ObamaPhones, solar panels, non-rechargeable electric cars, and like totally FREE healthcare, while watching our economy soar and relishing the complete peace in the Middle East, as well as the fact that we are like the most respected country evah. The world loves us and we loves our Obama.

4Grace on September 21, 2013 at 10:22 PM

4Grace on September 21, 2013 at 10:22 PM

right on G!

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 10:23 PM

A totalitarian wannabe is Mr. Jugears.

hillbillyjim on September 21, 2013 at 10:23 PM

Seems like Miley Cyrus is trying to make her privates public.

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 10:15 PM

So what is the scoop on ObamaCare? Its going to ruin us right?

SparkPlug on September 21, 2013 at 10:27 PM

right on G!

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 10:23 PM

Hey, b9! How’s ya doin, gal?

4Grace on September 21, 2013 at 10:29 PM

I like October. I’m sick and tired of you OctoberPhobes h8in on October. Its the month of debauchery.

SparkPlug on September 21, 2013 at 10:30 PM

Miscreant meme mimers are debauched.

SparkPlug on September 21, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Its the month of debauchery.

SparkPlug on September 21, 2013 at 10:30 PM

AKA month of cozmo.

cozmo on September 21, 2013 at 10:32 PM

4Grace on September 21, 2013 at 10:29 PM

What are you going to be of Halloween?

Or who(m) (the (m) was for Axe) are you going to be?

nested parentheses can be confusing

SparkPlug on September 21, 2013 at 10:33 PM

cozmo on September 21, 2013 at 10:32 PM

The OctoberPhobes are just Cozmo-nots.

SparkPlug on September 21, 2013 at 10:34 PM

Page 2 will be debauched.

Perhaps RWM will disembowel a troll and then eviscerate him also, spilling marsupial guts all over the place.

SparkPlug on September 21, 2013 at 10:36 PM

nested parentheses can be confusing

SparkPlug on September 21, 2013 at 10:33 PM

That’s why God invented brackets…and braces…and chevrons…and nested brackets…

cozmo on September 21, 2013 at 10:36 PM

If the Child Emperor doesn’t get his way on everything, he will huff and puff and blow the whole place down!

VorDaj on September 21, 2013 at 10:36 PM

SparkPlug on September 21, 2013 at 10:33 PM

Hi, Spark. I haven’t thought out the costume yet or even hired the costumers. I may go low budget this year. Maybe go as a pissed off Texan that’s done with the lot of them.

4Grace on September 21, 2013 at 10:36 PM

So what is the scoop on ObamaCare? Its going to ruin us right?

SparkPlug on September 21, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Yes- far reaching tentacles.. destructive on multiple levels.
Hesitant to say more and my insights..have to protect my azz.

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 10:36 PM

cozmo on September 21, 2013 at 10:36 PM

don’t forget duct tape and hose clamps.

Velcro is for zima drinkers.

SparkPlug on September 21, 2013 at 10:37 PM

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 10:36 PM

I thought only Cozmo had far reaching testicles.

SparkPlug on September 21, 2013 at 10:38 PM

Hey, b9! How’s ya doin, gal?

4Grace on September 21, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Hey!
We could break out the cheese boobs for Halloweey. :)

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 10:39 PM

Yes- far reaching tentacles.. destructive on multiple levels.
Hesitant to say more and my insights..have to protect my azz.

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 10:36 PM

There are going to be a whole lot of Obama supporters saying “WTH??? You said it was gonna be free!!”

4Grace on September 21, 2013 at 10:39 PM

Velcro is for zima drinkers.

SparkPlug on September 21, 2013 at 10:37 PM

Nope, Velco is cool. Super Velcro is awesome.

cozmo on September 21, 2013 at 10:40 PM

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 10:39 PM

cheese nips. hehe. (:

O_o

SparkPlug on September 21, 2013 at 10:40 PM

We could break out the cheese boobs for Halloweey. :)

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 10:39 PM

So true! Sadly, we were never able to wear them as planned.

4Grace on September 21, 2013 at 10:41 PM

SO PHIE

SO O O O O PHIE

SO phie

so phie

sophie

sophie sophie sophie sophie sophie

Axe on September 21, 2013 at 10:41 PM

Hey that bucket is whimpering over there.

—>

SparkPlug on September 21, 2013 at 10:41 PM

Gotta run. Good to see you, b9 and the guys.

Someone go see to Axe. He’s a hot mess. Over there. In the corner of the interwebs.

4Grace on September 21, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Anybody home?

KCB on September 21, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Anybody home?

No

cozmo on September 21, 2013 at 10:47 PM

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 10:36 PM
There are going to be a whole lot of Obama supporters saying “WTH??? You said it was gonna be free!!”

4Grace on September 21, 2013 at 10:39 PM

Bingo!
They have been asking me where their free insurance is for a few years now! I wanna effing choke’m.
The subsidy does not pay the entire premium..there are co-pays, deductibles and cost sharing as well. IT is NOT Free.
The irony..its those that voted for the REB that will be slapped silly. I await their pain.
So much more..I have to stop and talk about cheese nips and cozmos testes or will implode. :)

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 10:48 PM

KCB on September 21, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Hi Ken.

B9 is still my man. Oh wait, no..I’m her woman. Oh wait…

SparkPlug on September 21, 2013 at 10:48 PM

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Lets not talk about cozmo’s testes.

cozmo on September 21, 2013 at 10:49 PM

No

cozmo on September 21, 2013 at 10:47 PM

I was afraid of that…

KCB on September 21, 2013 at 10:50 PM

We could break out the cheese boobs for Halloweey. :)

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 10:39 PM
So true! Sadly, we were never able to wear them as planned.

4Grace on September 21, 2013 at 10:41 PM

We can be the cheese..
Sparky can dress as a crazy azz crack’a.

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Hi B9! Looks like I missed 4Grace. Is Sparky bothering you?

KCB on September 21, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Hey Ken, yep u missed her! :(
lol..spark is being spark.
Axe tho..he needs a tranquilizer.

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 10:54 PM

I just got notified that my health insurance is cancelled because of Obama care. There are other options… which cost much more and I must chose one or they will choose one for me if they don’t hear from me.

This is true. I had a basic major medical plan… because we can afford to pay the day to day stuff, and just needed major medical in case we got cancer or something.

So now I pay for a plan I don’t want.

petunia on September 21, 2013 at 10:54 PM

How ’bout we all just do this.

cozmo on September 21, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Right on Coz.

Getting me a beer and lurk with some tune-age.

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 10:55 PM

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Just for you

For you too. Favorite Motor City Madman.

cozmo on September 21, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Not for B-9

0bama world

cozmo on September 21, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Just for you

For you too. Favorite Motor City Madman.

cozmo on September 21, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Aww..thx Coz. :]
as axe says:

*sip*

bazil9 on September 21, 2013 at 11:07 PM

petunia on September 21, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Tell them , no thanks you will pick your own plan. No telling what you would end up if they picked one for you.

Myself, I’m just not going to participate. Gonna be like the illegals and just hit the emergency rooms. Not even going to send in whatever the IRS asks for. Pay my taxes and that is it.

They can come and get me for all I care. Hey, at least in jail I will have “free” healthcare.

Barred on September 21, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Scary guys doin’ good.

To be followed by Radar Love,

Up Around the Bend

And this one.

cozmo on September 21, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Gotta love Sarah:

Republicans in Congress support funding the government. If the Democrats block these funding measures, a government shutdown is on them. In the meantime, stop the ridiculous hysterics. Heck, about the most significant thing that happened during the last government shutdown was Clinton hooked up with Monica.

LOL, Go Sarah!!

bluefox on September 21, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Comment pages: 1 2 3