Peter King: If Ted Cruz can’t deliver on this defunding thing, he should keep quiet from now on

posted at 11:21 am on September 20, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via Mediaite, this guy’s going to be a barrel of laughs at the debates in 2016, huh? The CNN clip below was recorded yesterday afternoon but he was still throwing jabs this morning:

Sean Duffy, who appeared with King on Blitzer’s show, was also still punching today: “What I see happening now is people coming out and calling them out for the hypocrisy of these big, tough conservatives who know how to fight, but never get in the ring.” That’s true, people in the House and Senate are calling out Cruz and Lee, but Duffy and King are unusual thus far in being willing to go on record about it. (Michael Grimm, who’s also a New York Republican, is another.) Are the anonymous aides whispering to reporters about Cruz technically “in the ring”?

Anyway, the House will pass a defunding measure sometime today, the bill will head to the Senate, and then Cruz, Lee, and Rand Paul can launch a talking filibuster of the sort I described yesterday, right? Well … no, says Byron York:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will propose a motion to strike the defunding provision from the continuing resolution. Senate rules allow that to be decided on a simple majority vote. Democrats will vote to strike the defunding portion and set up a final up-or-down vote on the continuing resolution, which at that point will be just a measure to fund the government, including Obamacare. There will be a simple majority vote. The measure will pass.

But couldn’t Cruz and his allies stand up and stage a talking filibuster, at least to put the process on hold? In fact, Senate rules, which Reid will enforce, will limit the debate on the measure to 30 hours, divided evenly between the parties. That gives Republicans 15 hours, to be divided between 46 GOP senators. That’s not a lot of time. It’s possible the Republican caucus could decide to allow Cruz to filibuster for an extended period of time. But it’s unlikely, given the other senators who will likely want to speak out on the issue. In March, the Rand Paul filibuster went on for nearly 13 hours; don’t look for something like that to happen this time.

There won’t be an opportunity to filibuster Reid’s CR by denying Democrats 60 votes on cloture and there won’t be an opportunity for a 12-hour Cruzapalooza on the evils of ObamaCare. Maybe some of his colleagues in the “defund” faction will cede him some of their time so that he’ll have a longer stretch on the floor, but that seems unlikely. The great political benefit for people like Paul and Rubio who’ve joined the “defund” push is winning respect among grassroots conservatives for doing so. Why would they hand Cruz, a potential 2016 rival, some of their own allotted spotlight time to take credit?

The only hope Senate Republicans have of throwing a wrench in the works in their chamber is getting some red-state Dems to join them in voting no, which almost certainly won’t happen. It’d be considered high treason by the White House and the Democratic base. So Reid’s clean CR will pass and then it’ll be sent to the House. What happens then? National Journal says Boehner’s team has already hatched a plan:

But, sources familiar with the planning say Boehner is preparing a third option, one that keeps the government open at post-sequester spending levels while not conceding defeat on Obamacare. To accomplish this, the Republican leadership is planning to propose a debt-ceiling package — perhaps as early as next week — that has as its centerpiece a one-year delay of President Obama’s health care law.

Meanwhile, House leadership would supplement the revised CR with some assortment of conservative policy provisions (such as a “conscience clause” for health care coverage, or a verification system for insurance subsidies.) Adding such items, the thinking goes, would secure sufficient support from skeptical House Republicans while not antagonizing enough Democrats to derail passage in the Senate.

Top Republicans say shifting their anti-Obamacare efforts from the CR to the debt-ceiling is smart strategy and sound politics. For one thing, conservatives now realize that delaying Obamacare — as opposed to repealing or defunding it — represents their best shot at scoring a health care victory. Also, Boehner can honestly tell his members that he did everything he could to defund Obamacare in the CR. And, at the end of the day, Republicans still believe their leverage will be maximized when negotiating the nation’s borrowing limit.

The House leadership has always preferred delay to defund and they’ve always favored having this fight in the context of the debt ceiling, where Democrats won’t be quite as eager to see Republicans choose the nuclear option. More leverage for the GOP to extract concessions, plus more of a likelihood of attracting some Democratic votes given that the White House has already blessed delay as helpful vis-a-vis the employer mandate. Assuming National Journal is right, this would be Boehner’s second punt on this subject to Cruz and Lee. Having failed to stop Reid from killing the “defund” push in the Senate, will they then accept the House plan to fight for a one-year delay during the debt ceiling? Or will that amount to “surrender”?

Update: Just as I published this, the House voted to defund O-Care. 230-189, with two Democrats crossing the aisle. On to the Senate.


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I completely agree that Obamacare should be defunded asap but I was thinking of all the people whose hours have been cut back, who have lost their health care benefits or just been flat out fired because of Obamacare already. Will there be an affordable vehicle for them to get affordable health care without the monstrosity of Obamacare to “help” them if Obamacare is defunded or gutted?

gracie on September 20, 2013 at 1:25 PM

The National Republican Trust PAC sent me an email, taking credit for this House vote and wanting money. Anybody heard of these people? I’m suspicious.

The Establishment had to be dragged kicking and screaming to this vote.

rrpjr on September 20, 2013 at 1:26 PM

I have thought Peter King is a fraud when he and Anthony Weiner would appear together, supposedly on opposite sides of an issue. Their debates always seemed staged to me, and I stopped believing anything King had to say publicly.

The Republicans need Obamacare to run on in 2014, or at least appear credible, and since they all ran on repeal, they are now changing that language to delay. Cruz, Paul, Lee, et al., are revealing those House members who are telling the truth and those who are lying. One step closer to weeding out the RINOs from the Republican Party.

lea on September 20, 2013 at 1:26 PM

I haven’t heard a thing King has said since the Clinton Impeachment vote.

Whiterock on September 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Trying to defund Obamacare really shows that conservatives don’t trust the American electorate or they secretly think Obamacare is good policy. If it was so horrible, then let it play out to prove how bad things are. If you obstruct, it allows the left to say “well it never really worked.”

libfreeordie on September 20, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Do you really have to open your mouth every time, to remove all doubts about your midget intellect??? It’s Obama himself who didn’t let Obamacare play out, by grantng thousands of waivers to his political base/cronies and supporters. To paraphrase, if Obamacare is so wonderful, then why doesn’t O let it play out to prove how great things are. All the Rs did was make it fair to everybody, as in everybody gets waivers, why only the ones chosen by O should get waivers??

jimver on September 20, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Peter King is as big an idiot as Obama is…like Obama, he attempts to sit down and play checkers when the guy he is facing is playing chess.

king doesn’t understand that what the GOP has just done is to fund EVERY part of the government EXCEPT for Obamacare, an Un-Constitutional, job/business-killing, insurance raising/loss-causing, $1+ Trillion costing, ‘train-wreck of a bill that 60% of Americans hate, the Unions no longer support, and that Dems don’t even like anymore.

The GOP is now sending this bill, funding every part of the government except for Obamacare,to Harry Reid/the Democrats in the Senate & Obama daring THEM to SHUTDOWN THE GOVERNMENT over Obama’s rotting POS bill described above!

The Democrats will now have to go on record as supporting Obamacare…will have to show THEY are willing to shutdown the government just to save this law that is hurting so many Americans and businesses.

He can not see that THIS is also in part about the 2014 Mid-Term Senatorial elections! All the GOP now have to do is tell/show the American people that Democratic Party Senators & Obama were willing to shut down the government over their rabid support for this horrible bill!

King is worried about his own job, so much that he is blinded by the fact that over 60% of Americans support the idea of defunding Obamacare, something that he is now against because he thinks THAT ‘side’ is what will keep him in office.

easyt65 on September 20, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Trying to defund Obamacare really shows that conservatives don’t trust the American electorate…

libfreeordie on September 20, 2013 at 1:17 PM

The American electorate is overwhelmingly against the sham called O-care. Get out of your ivory tower, Perfesser and out in the world, get a survey, poll on O-care and try to read them…

jimver on September 20, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Wow, King’s really alienating alot of people who “might” be in his corner otherwise. I for one am done with him. He was good on national security after 9/11 and supporting anti-terrorism efforts by the FBI. He’s harder on Cruz than anything he’s ever said about Obamalamadingdong.

smfic on September 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM

The House now needs only to adjourn until January.

Unfortunately, the gutless wimps won’t do it.

cthulhu on September 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Trying to defund Obamacare really shows that conservatives don’t trust the American electorate or they secretly think Obamacare is good policy. If it was so horrible, then let it play out to prove how bad things are. If you obstruct, it allows the left to say “well it never really worked.”

libfreeordie on September 20, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Sorry, but only liberal minds work that way. I don’t want it to play out to prove how bad things are. I don’t want people to have to experience that awfulness. I don’t want to destroy my country just to prove a point.

Chris of Rights on September 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Trying to defund Obamacare really shows that conservatives don’t trust the American electorate…
libfreeordie on September 20, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Scared much?

rrpjr on September 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

If the Republicans cave and agree to fund ObamaCare, the Republican party will be effectively dead. It will begin with next year’s mid-terms.

Meople on September 20, 2013 at 1:49 PM

We deserve to have our voice heard too. Peter King could never be elected Senator.

HellCat on September 20, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Peter King go talk to your slob buddy Karl Rove.

mobydutch on September 20, 2013 at 1:58 PM

I have thought Peter King is a fraud when he and Anthony Weiner would appear together, supposedly on opposite sides of an issue. Their debates always seemed staged to me, and I stopped believing anything King had to say publicly.

The Republicans need Obamacare to run on in 2014, or at least appear credible, and since they all ran on repeal, they are now changing that language to delay. Cruz, Paul, Lee, et al., are revealing those House members who are telling the truth and those who are lying. One step closer to weeding out the RINOs from the Republican Party.

lea on September 20, 2013 at 1:26 PM

You got that right.

Listening to anything King has is a waste of time.

At least the RINO’s are being forced to do something.

Steveangell on September 20, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Hey Petey, met with any IRA goons lately? You terrorist supporting plutocrat.

oryguncon on September 20, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Sorry for double-dipping, but what about this Allan Brauer, spokesperson for Sacramento, CA Dem Party wishing death on Ted Cruz’s children. Horrible & disturbing.

I’m glad I’m not on the side of hate, death and character assassinations.

HellCat on September 20, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Peter King (R-NY) on today’s CR vote: “Hopefully it will be a major step in letting people know that Ted Cruz is a fraud”

You and the gop leadership team just make it official and join the TRUE PROGRESSIVE Party (the Democrats).

You and Sean Duffy are a JOKE. You’re clowns. You suck. You’ll never get a dime from my family. I’m done with even listening to your arguments ever again. You’re traitors to the REAGAN wing of the party. Go pound sand, you are vile, despicable villians.

PappyD61 on September 20, 2013 at 2:09 PM

The towering irony in all this is that Cruz, attacked as “divisive,” is actually the true unifier — bringing to the doorstep of the GOP the roadmap to a “new paradigm”. But it entails a moral courage they simply don’t have and won’t acquire. So they lash out at him. That’s another matter, and must also be dealt with. It can’t be avoided. The true healer and uniter must deal directly with the disease. Cruz is doing just that, and in the most intelligent and productive manner possible. He isn’t simply attacking the hierarchy, he’s showing them the way to save themselves. They are rejecting it, hastening their own end. That’s why we’re seeing all the wailing and gnashing of teeth.

rrpjr on September 20, 2013 at 12:15 PM

So true! That’s why I hope people are starting to pay attention to Cruz. He has principles, solutions, a way forward. I think many, if not most, Americans are tired of leaderless politics and the fact that both parties are putting their own careers and their party ahead of the country and the well being of its citizens. I hope, I pray, that others with Cruz’s courage run and are elected in the 2014 midterms. We will need them.

idalily on September 20, 2013 at 2:13 PM

he National Republican Trust PAC sent me an email, taking credit for this House vote and wanting money. Anybody heard of these people? I’m suspicious.

The Establishment had to be dragged kicking and screaming to this vote.

rrpjr on September 20, 2013 at 1:26 PM

Send it back with these words in bold black letters written across it: “I already gave that money to Cruz’s PAC. Sorry.”

idalily on September 20, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Then they’re not seeing the long game. It completely fails as a trap — in fact, it’s the opposite. It empowers Cruz and opens up all sorts of possibilities and collateral benefits.

No one expects Cruz to get this passed. The fact he’s led the movement to force the vote in the House is an achivement in itself, and now that the pressure is on the Senate we’ll see where everybody stands. Cruz won’t be blamed if Lyndsey Graham and John McCain vote no. They’ll simply be exposed. Graham’s primary opponent will have another weapon.

There is no downside in this for Cruz, except of course with respect to the Empire of RINOism (which hates him anyway). And the more they hate him, the more the grassroots rallies to him.

rrpjr on September 20, 2013 at 12:01 PM

The problem is that I think this is the beginning of Palinization. What will happen when Cruz fails is that the Republicans will not permit a shutdown, they will instead say “Cruz could not deliver, so we’re going to fully fund Obamacare” and that will be the end of any further talk of repealing/defunding/etc.

Going forward, “Cruz can’t deliver” will become the new talking point they pound him with over and over, the same way they used the “quitter” meme against Palin when she was litigated out of office.

Doomberg on September 20, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Doomberg on September 20, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Cruz will now have “street cred” with the base..That was also part of Cruz’s plan..:)

Dire Straits on September 20, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Going forward, “Cruz can’t deliver” will become the new talking point they pound him with over and over, the same way they used the “quitter” meme against Palin when she was litigated out of office.

Doomberg on September 20, 2013 at 2:22 PM

I think it will backfire — if they try it. Remember, what is the downside of bringing it to a vote? For this meme to have power, there has to be an actual danger or damage caused by the vote. There is none. Clarity can be the only end result. We’ll all know better who who stands for what. The failure of the vote to pass can’t be blamed on Cruz, at least not in any plausible way. If some republican senators don’t vote for it, the onus is on them, not Cruz. And Cruz can’t be held to account for democrat nays. Lacking obvious plausibility, this will just sound like a bitter personalized attack. The grassroots is too deep into their understanding of RINOism to be influenced by that kind of attack.

Cruz would have accomplished the most any one man could have, and advanced the fight against Obamacare to a much higher, more publicly conspicuous level than it would otherwise have reached. The democrats will stand even more in the crosshairs of responsibility for it.

rrpjr on September 20, 2013 at 2:33 PM

Trying to defund Obamacare really shows that conservatives don’t trust the American electorate or they secretly think Obamacare is good policy. If it was so horrible, then let it play out to prove how bad things are. If you obstruct, it allows the left to say “well it never really worked.”
libfreeordie on September 20, 2013 at 1:17 PM

The electorate put the Republicans in charge and a BIPARTISAN congress just gave more votes to defunding it than a unilateral political maneuver did.

This shows you don’t really trust our form of government.

Skywise on September 20, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Laura Ingraham……..Kissing up to Boehner for the interview!!

Isn’t she a buddy of Sean Duffy’s wife?

PappyD61 on September 20, 2013 at 3:08 PM

Talk about frauds – look in the mirror King. It is hard to comprehend why the media latches on to anything King, McCain, Schumer, and Graham have to say on any and all issues. I am for Cruz until he proves himself to be like these idiots. I am for anyone who has the backbone to stand up against the Dems, Obama, and these idiots within the GOP.

lhuffman34 on September 20, 2013 at 3:12 PM

Cruz can’t defund Obamacare or anything else. That is the job of the House. What’s the point of worrying about your job if you are a Republican in a communist country?

It would be best to just come out and say that the Republican Party can’t exist if the function of the federal government is to oversee communist programs. It’s not something Republicans can do, nor should they. It’s likely that 60% of the voting population will understand the predicament. If the majority want a one party system, let them vote for it. Let them know that it will break up the union because the enslaved minority is not going to say ‘well, democracy has spoken so we’ll just be slaves now’. Democracy is the worst system possible when 51% can enslave 49%. There is nothing virtuous about going along with such a system.

Buddahpundit on September 20, 2013 at 3:25 PM

These “part of the problem” rinos are disgusting.

Cruz will make him look like the little man he is.

Texyank on September 20, 2013 at 3:41 PM

thats whats wrong with the GOP, they’ve got RINOS like King making policy

burserker on September 20, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Does anyone else have a hard time taking Duffy seriously? I just keep picturing him on the Real World.

melle1228 on September 20, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Hah, go see Drudge :)

Schadenfreude on September 20, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Can we extradite King to Great Britain to stand trial?

VorDaj on September 20, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Cruz has been leading people on about this. He wanted money and name recognition and he knew from the start this would not work. I have no doubts that the more besotted members of his fan club will go right on believing…in that way they are very much like the Obamabots who still believe in hope and change..

This is from Byron York:

As the aide explained it, when the House passes a continuing resolution that defunds Obamacare and sends it to the Senate, several things will happen. There will be cloture votes on a motion to proceed and a motion to actually take up the defunding resolution. The bill will almost certainly go forward; Republicans, whatever their position on the defunding question, certainly won’t stop the House bill before it can be considered.

Then, when the defunding continuing resolution is being considered, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will propose a motion to strike the defunding provision from the continuing resolution. Senate rules allow that to be decided on a simple majority vote. Democrats will vote to strike the defunding portion and set up a final up-or-down vote on the continuing resolution, which at that point will be just a measure to fund the government, including Obamacare. There will be a simple majority vote. The measure will pass.

But couldn’t Cruz and his allies stand up and stage a talking filibuster, at least to put the process on hold? In fact, Senate rules, which Reid will enforce, will limit the debate on the measure to 30 hours, divided evenly between the parties. That gives Republicans 15 hours, to be divided between 46 GOP senators. That’s not a lot of time. It’s possible the Republican caucus could decide to allow Cruz to filibuster for an extended period of time. But it’s unlikely, given the other senators who will likely want to speak out on the issue. In March, the Rand Paul filibuster went on for nearly 13 hours; don’t look for something like that to happen this time.

So Republicans don’t have the votes to actually filibuster a continuing resolution, and they don’t have the rules on their side to stage a talking filibuster. Supporters of defunding are bound to be disappointed. But the Senate aide says no one should be surprised. “This is not a gimmick or a scheme,” says the aide. “It is Rule 22 of the U.S. Senate. Everybody knew this. This is an existing rule. It is taught in Senate class when you do your orientation. It is not a surprise. Nobody sprung it on him [Sen. Cruz].”

Terrye on September 20, 2013 at 4:57 PM

Cruz has been leading people on about this.

Terrye on September 20, 2013 at 4:57 PM

You’re lying. He’s been pretty clear what would be necessary for his plan to work. Is it the best plan in the world? I’m not sold, but it’s better than the no plan that the House has been acting on for the past 2 and a half years. And even better than the national GOP’s plan of getting rid of Obamacare by nominating its grandfather to be president.

besser tot als rot on September 20, 2013 at 5:01 PM

Shut the F**k up RINO!!

jeglinas on September 20, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Cruz has been leading people on about this. He wanted money and name recognition and he knew from the start this would not work.
Terrye on September 20, 2013 at 4:57 PM

Total smear-merchant BS bellowing from the collapsing beast of RINOism.

How? How has he been leading anybody on? He’s been straightfroward from the beginning about the difficulty of defunding and what would be required from the republican party — a revolutionary form of political engagement — to make it happen.

But you people have definitely got your Narrative together about Cruz — it’s all about ego and money.

Of course — it’s the laziest slur imaginable. It takes absolutely no effort or real proof to say such a thing because it taps into all our preconceptions about political ambition. It can be said about anybody. And so what? Even if Cruz is ambitious — it recalls what Robert F. Kennedy said many years ago when he was accused of the same thing as a senator (I paraphrase): “what difference does it make? If I’m an effective Senator and do a good job, then I’ll be due a promotion — like every other American good at his job. If I don’t, then I won’t be. It’s always up to the people.”

The fact is, Cruz has done all the groundwork with this and really made this House vote possible. It’s a huge victory for America. At the very least, the issue will be laid bare before the Senate and everybody’s position made clear. The fight against Obamacare will be advanced in ways the RINOs never would have dared advance it. Even if we lose the vote, there will no place for democrats to hide when it all comes apart.

rrpjr on September 20, 2013 at 5:21 PM

I will stand with Cruz. The GOPe shall suffer. May they starve.

Bmore on September 20, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Sh*t sandwich anyone? This is all King and his ilk has to offer. Yes and this includes that other fat arse found in Jersey.

DDay on September 20, 2013 at 5:28 PM

The fact is, Cruz has done all the groundwork with this and really made this House vote possible. It’s a huge victory for America. At the very least, the issue will be laid bare before the Senate and everybody’s position made clear. The fight against Obamacare will be advanced in ways the RINOs never would have dared advance it. Even if we lose the vote, there will no place for democrats to hide when it all comes apart.

rrpjr on September 20, 2013 at 5:21 PM

You can rant and rave about Rinos all you want, but the truth is that Cruz knew from the outset that this whole government shutdown crap was not going to work. The man can count. At least I am assuming he can. The House has already had more than 40 votes to repeal Obamacare and they were capable of doing all that without any help from Cruz. I want Obamacare gone too, but there are smart ways to do it and there are dumb ways to pretend to do it…this is the latter.

Terrye on September 20, 2013 at 5:31 PM

I will stand with Cruz. The GOPe shall suffer. May they starve.

Bmore on September 20, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Well then you best be writing check, because that is all Cruz really cares about. The Senator from Canada is responsible for this nonsense, not King. I think King is kind of a showboater himself, but at least he does seem to know the Senate rules. That is more than can be said for Ted Cruz.

Terrye on September 20, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Hey Pete! Cruz is not the one who should shut the hell up. You’ve been in DC long enough.

RdLake on September 20, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Terrye on September 20, 2013 at 4:57 PM

You’re a hopelessly pathetic dunce. 62% of the public admit that they don’t know much about Obamacare. What Cruz is doing is forcing people to pay more attention, which only makes people dislike it more.

Try to keep up.

beatcanvas on September 20, 2013 at 5:50 PM

The House has already had more than 40 votes to repeal Obamacare and they were capable of doing all that without any help from Cruz.
Terrye on September 20, 2013 at 5:31 PM

When? What a joke. The same crap always from RINOs.

You were here for months even years with your RINO pom-poms squealing and hopping around for Romney. How did that turn out?

You have no idea how to fight the Left. Cruz is driving the fight and now we have a result to show for it, and this terrifies you. It’s a new game, a new paradigm. We tried your way. No mas. Deal with it.

rrpjr on September 20, 2013 at 5:59 PM

I want Obamacare gone too, but there are smart ways to do it and there are dumb ways to pretend to do it…this is the latter.

Terrye on September 20, 2013 at 5:31 PM

What’s more… you’re about to drown in government red ink thanks to Obamacare, which you say you oppose. Cruz jumped into the water with a life preserver and you’re kicking him in the teeth for not bringing a boat.

You and your ilk are the reason the Republican party is weak and ineffective.

beatcanvas on September 20, 2013 at 6:13 PM

I completely agree that Obamacare should be defunded asap but I was thinking of all the people whose hours have been cut back, who have lost their health care benefits or just been flat out fired because of Obamacare already. Will there be an affordable vehicle for them to get affordable health care without the monstrosity of Obamacare to “help” them if Obamacare is defunded or gutted?

gracie on September 20, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Of course they don’t. The Republicans just pout and whine, slay windmills and come up with no ideas.

When the Republicans had control of the Congress did one person try to resolve the pre existing condition issue? Did one Republican try to bash down the restrictions against nation wide insurance competition and create a more freeer marketplace in the helath arena? Of course not. They were busy elsewhere. The Pubs have no one to blame but themselves.

rickyricardo on September 20, 2013 at 6:15 PM

What’s more… you’re about to drown in government red ink thanks to Obamacare, which you say you oppose. Cruz jumped into the water with a life preserver and you’re kicking him in the teeth for not bringing a boat.

You and your ilk are the reason the Republican party is weak and ineffective.

beatcanvas on September 20, 2013 at 6:13 PM

The Republican party is weak and ineffective because it granstands like Cruz is currently doing and offering no other ideas. Being the party of no is fine if you have alternative ideas…this Republican party is devoid of them.

rickyricardo on September 20, 2013 at 6:18 PM

For any number of reasons, I like Peter King for POTUS.

And for any other number of reasons, I want to put Laura Ingram over my lap and spank her hienie until she squeals like a 4th grader.

Or Meghan Kelly.

Or Kimberly Guilfoyle. MEOW!!!!!!

Naughty girl! Now Daddy has to put the switch to you!

Yeah. I know. I am a total perve.

thejackal on September 20, 2013 at 6:23 PM

No me gusta Ricky Ricardo.

Ward Cleaver on September 20, 2013 at 6:27 PM

What happened to Peter King?

It’s either a live boy or a dead girl with this guy.

I’d take bets on both.

sartana on September 20, 2013 at 6:31 PM

Peter King needs to STFU

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on September 20, 2013 at 7:29 PM

thejackal on September 20, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Well that explains the first sentence.

Cindy Munford on September 20, 2013 at 7:31 PM

rickyricardo on September 20, 2013 at 6:15 PM

If you really believe the GOP’s weakness and ineffectualness is because of “grandstanders” like Cruz, I’m not sure where you’ve been for the past 20 years.

But stay tuned, sourpuss. You’re about to see some pretty unusual things begin to happen. All because Cruz forced the issue. All that squawking isn’t going on for no reason. That’s the sound an Establishment makes when somebody starts tinkering with the status quo.

rrpjr on September 20, 2013 at 7:31 PM

Rep Peter King – R-NY;
Another wet, limp, wet noodle Republican I will NEVER EVER SUPPORT AGAIN!!
God we eat our own….

mmcnamer1 on September 20, 2013 at 7:55 PM

Shut the F**k up RINO!!

jeglinas on September 20, 2013 at 5:16 PM

.

Peter King needs to STFU

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on September 20, 2013 at 7:29 PM

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I don’t much care for the “F word”, but in this case I’ll make an exception . . . . . . . . .
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D O U B L E . D I T T O S !

listens2glenn on September 20, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Sheesh, what an eeeeeyyyooorrrre. You guys got this all figured out, right? If this is all so bad why don’t you guys just pack up Hot Air and go home because you’re not accomplishing anything either.

The major point that Cruz has been making has been missed by all of you repeatedly and it is that no one is going to do this alone and WE–all of us–have to wake up and get up off our lazy dimes, quit waiting for imbeciles like Harry Reidiculous and Poison Pelosi to see the light, quit waiting for the useless RINO leadership to wake up–it’s time to force them to wake up to the reality that THEY work for US. It’s time for We The People to take back our country. I think it’s time for civil unrest in the streets of America–protesting this piece’o'crap legislation that is clearly UNCONSTITUTIONAL (I don’t give a bleep what Chief Justice Roberts says!!). Cruz just happens to have the guts to lead the charge. Who are we gonna follow? Or are we gonna just be a buncha eeyores reading the posts of a buncha bigger eeyores? I know what I’m doin’. See ya’ …

stukinIL4now on September 20, 2013 at 8:57 PM

RINO King!Or is that Chris Christie.Doesn’t matter.Neither of themwill win anything ousde of their Northeastern RINO strongholds,where Republicans and Democrats all look exactly alike.

redware on September 20, 2013 at 9:41 PM

If Ted Cruz is not the Republican nominee in 2016 then stay home.Put your money where your critical mouths are and do not vote for another unprincipled RINO.The GOP does not advance a conservative agenda.If you can’t stop being used and abused by them please go and get some help,so you can liberate yourselves and the country.I have said it before and will keep saying this-The GOP must be destroyed if we are ever going to stop the Progressive/Socialists from destroying America.

redware on September 20, 2013 at 9:46 PM

If it was so horrible, then let it play out to prove how bad things are.

libfreeordie on September 20, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Bigoted race-baiting Marxist troll is channeling Lenin, Stalin, and Mao, just to name a few. All communists and socialist say…

“Give communism/socialism a chance! If it is ‘so horrible, then let it play out to prove how bad things are’. ”

“After all, what’s the worse that can happen?”, said Lenin, Stalin, and Mao, more or less.

farsighted on September 20, 2013 at 9:48 PM

A little projection, hey, Pete, you’re the fraud.

RoyalFlush on September 20, 2013 at 10:25 PM

11th Commandment Mr. King, get with it. If you can’t lead, stay out of the way.

Meremortal on September 20, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Peter King isn’t a pimple on Cruz’ a$$.

He might aspire to be, but he’s simply not important enough.

applebutter on September 20, 2013 at 11:53 PM

What an irrelevant bozo Pete King is. Populist douchebag.

Jaibones on September 21, 2013 at 12:51 AM

NO one wins every battle in a war.

The point is to aim to win the final victory, not obsess over the results of each and every skirmish.

Disposing of the disaster of ObamacareTax is the war that must be won.

Losing a charge or a hill here and there is only natural.

If military leaders in wartime gave up as easily as RINOs like King, WW II would have ended in the North African desert when the U.S. lost its initial battles with the Nazis or even at Pearl Harbor when the Navy was first smashed by the Japs.

profitsbeard on September 21, 2013 at 1:39 AM

What an irrelevant bozo Pete King is. Populist douchebag.

Jaibones on September 21, 2013 at 12:51 AM

…he needs to be bitchslapped!

KOOLAID2 on September 21, 2013 at 1:48 AM

Peter King in 2014 = Peter Whooooo.

Egfrow on September 21, 2013 at 1:49 AM

RINO Peter King is a Chris Christie ally.

bluegill on September 21, 2013 at 2:14 AM

Peter King is the one who has to step up. This bill will be back to the House and will need to be up held by the house.
Harry Reid runs the Senate and the Republicans are not the majority. If there are Democrat Senators with backbones who will listen to their voters, they can help Cruz and the Republican help Americans.
Obamacare is a step toward Single payer Socialist health care and if King doesn’t vote against it every time, he will be shown to be a fraud. Not Senator Cruz.

Delsa on September 21, 2013 at 2:21 AM

I completely agree that Obamacare should be defunded asap but I was thinking of all the people whose hours have been cut back, who have lost their health care benefits or just been flat out fired because of Obamacare already. Will there be an affordable vehicle for them to get affordable health care without the monstrosity of Obamacare to “help” them if Obamacare is defunded or gutted?

gracie on September 20, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Yeah. It’s called “Cash-only clinics.”

Say good night, Gracie.

gryphon202 on September 21, 2013 at 3:16 AM

A dozen more like Cruz to shake up the good old boy GOP are what is needed. Reformers of the GOP, citizens involved in the process who disagree with their complicity with the left–that old go along to get along—are so the real enemy of these elites who have long overstayed their welcome. If our forefathers made one big mistake it was in not imposing term limits on all politicians.

Don L on September 21, 2013 at 4:16 AM

Hey, I thought the establishment GOP got upset when Republicans attack Republicans.

That is … EXCEPT when establishment does the attacking!

HondaV65 on September 21, 2013 at 5:56 AM

We need at least 217 GOP Reps to NOT budge when either:

1. Dingy sends back a CR to the HOR stripped of the DEFUND language

or

2. The wimpy GOP HOR Leadership works a ‘deal’ with Dingy/Obama for a partial defund, maybe removal of one or two hated provisions

51% of the Public (Rasmussen) don’t want a DEAL – they want a FULL DEFUND, or else SHUT DOWN the Govt

Watch the HOR Leadership like a hawk this coming week, and put your GOP Rep (and those two Dems, one in UT and the other in NC) on speed dial.

Tell them they must DEFY the GOP Leadership if Boehner tries to work a deal for anything less than a FULL DEFUND.

We must herd these Reps and keep AT LEAST 217 in the DEFUND CORRAL.

exodus2011 on September 21, 2013 at 6:07 AM

King is a New York liberal- nothing more and nothing less. There is simply no way a conservative can survive in New York.

rplat on September 21, 2013 at 8:00 AM

HEY ‘KING ! ….. If you can’t be any more effective in representing conservative ideology, then STEP DOWN and be thou REPLACED.

listens2glenn on September 21, 2013 at 8:20 AM

gracie on September 20, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Obamacare just “gutted” one of those “affordable vehicles” used by 100,000 low-income New Jerseyians.

http://www.nj.com/business/index.ssf/2013/08/affordable_care_act_to_end_hea.html

But your concern is duly noted.

rrpjr on September 21, 2013 at 9:58 AM

I completely agree that Obamacare should be defunded asap but I was thinking of all the people whose hours have been cut back, who have lost their health care benefits or just been flat out fired because of Obamacare already. Will there be an affordable vehicle for them to get affordable health care without the monstrosity of Obamacare to “help” them if Obamacare is defunded or gutted?
gracie on September 20, 2013 at 1:25 PM

I wrote the following yesterday, but I think it is apropos of what you’re saying:

Here is my take:
The reason there are more people who oppose Obamacare than there are people who support defunding Obamacare is that many people are quite happy with their insurance, but they would feel bad thinking that other, less fortunate people would lose what ever insurance they have if it were defunded.
THAT is the reason many voters day they are less inclined to support defunding.
What needs to happen: the case needs to be made in a much stronger way for why Obamacare is bad for everyone.
When many people hear “defund Obamacare” what they immediately think is “taking away some poor person’s insurance.” That has to change.
bluegill on September 20, 2013 at 6:56 AM

bluegill on September 21, 2013 at 9:59 AM

It’s time Peter King retires. He’s out of touch with the American people.

sadatoni on September 21, 2013 at 10:30 AM

New Steyn…

Slouching Toward a Banana Republic

Resist We Much on September 21, 2013 at 11:14 AM

Peter King: If Ted Cruz can’t deliver on this defunding thing, he should keep quiet from now on

Laughably, it is the GOP that says the other party is the party of censorship. What is it you fear Peter, that another equally elected Senator (one elected by the citizenry, in spite of your party’s super efforts to destroy his candidacy) might embarrass you and your incompetent party with the truth? Reform maybe? Perhaps actual opposition to your friends across the aisle’s destructive behavior?
Who gave this character without any character the role of moderator? Maybe he got a call from the White House for some help?

Don L on September 21, 2013 at 2:03 PM

If it was so horrible, then let it play out to prove how bad things are?

libfreeordie on September 20, 2013 at 1:17 PM

.
Because “letting it play out”, ‘locks it IN.’

I’m not willing to let it become ‘locked in’, just to prove that it won’t work.

listens2glenn on September 21, 2013 at 6:27 PM

The vain Peter King should consider the issues before us, rather than make ad hominen remarks about a member of his own party. Smart politicians would know this, but King does not.

virgo on September 22, 2013 at 12:52 AM

Peter King after playing the Conservative role for a number of years, has come out as the closet Rino that he is. He flubbed his review of the Muslim and afterwards became openly mushy.

There are too many idiots like him in the Republican party. He should be primaried and dumped like the rotten fish that he is.

FactsofLife on September 22, 2013 at 8:59 AM

King is truly irrelevant.

Bmore on September 22, 2013 at 10:12 PM

You can rant and rave about Rinos all you want, but the truth is that Cruz knew from the outset that this whole government shutdown crap was not going to work. The man can count. At least I am assuming he can. The House has already had more than 40 votes to repeal Obamacare and they were capable of doing all that without any help from Cruz. I want Obamacare gone too, but there are smart ways to do it and there are dumb ways to pretend to do it…this is the latter.

Terrye on September 20, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Looks like someone just got back from Character Assassin Training Camp.

Dunedainn on September 23, 2013 at 12:32 AM

Yeah, it’s easy to see how much the old Republicans have accomplished. They’ve bent over & taken it so many times it should be X-rated.

RdLake on September 23, 2013 at 9:03 AM

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