White House: Obama will veto any House bill that attempts to defund ObamaCare

posted at 1:21 pm on September 19, 2013 by Allahpundit

Ted Cruz seizes the obvious talking-point opportunity:

All Republicans need to do now is get the “defund” CR through the Senate somehow and onto O’s desk for the veto.

“The Administration strongly opposes House passage of H.J. Res. 59, making continuing appropriations for fiscal year 2014 and for other purposes, because it advances a narrow ideological agenda that threatens our economy and the interests of the middle class,” the Office of Management and Budget said in the statement.

“The Resolution would defund the Affordable Care Act, denying millions of hard-working middle class families the security of affordable health coverage.

“If the President were presented with H.J. Res. 59, he would veto the bill.”

That last sentence was underlined and was the stronger version of a veto threat rather than the typical one that his advisers “would recommend” a veto.

Mike Lee wants conservatives to rally around the idea of forcing Reid to hold an up-or-down vote on the House “defund” bill, which means he thinks he can at least get close to 51 with the help of red-state Democrats. Can he? Pryor and Manchin are conceivably “no” votes on O-Care; Landrieu and Begich would have to think hard too. Even with Obama as weak as he is now, though, I can’t believe Senate Dems wouldn’t hold together to defeat the measure. It’d mean the end of his presidency effectively if they didn’t. Lee’s goal here, I assume, is simply to make this as politically excruciating as he can for the White House in order to repay Boehner and the House GOP for giving the “defund” movement a shot. Won’t matter in the end — Reid won’t hold an up-or-down vote — but it’s good politics.

Here’s Boehner’s office having some fun with President Bumblefark, who reserves his toughest negotiating stance for his real enemy.


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Go ahead and Veto it. Let them own it.

Egfrow on September 19, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Don’t call his bluff, or else he’ll draw a red line!

NotCoach on September 19, 2013 at 1:24 PM

So, I guess the bottom line is that unless the House funds every single thing ObaMao wants, then I guess HE would be the one shutting down the gubment.

Sounds to me like HE and the Dims are the ones doing the extorting in this case.

Meople on September 19, 2013 at 1:27 PM

He can’t veto a House Bill it is never presented to him for action.

meci on September 19, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Go for it, Pres Biotch. Shut it down.

Shay on September 19, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Obama health care law

Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas: ‘I will do everything necessary and anything possible to defund Obamacare’ – @LukeRussert

33 mins ago from twitter.com/LukeRussert by editor

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 1:28 PM

*********************** DOA ******************************!!

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., says plans to defund Obama health law are dead on arrival in Senate – @jamiedupree

1 hour ago from twitter.com/jamiedupree by editor

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Besides the red lines Obozo draws on his face, the only red line he will stand by is the one that will screw up America the most.

birdwatcher on September 19, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Congress is EXEMPT from Obamacare…….Its a NO RISK vote for them, unless you count the voting booth RISK.

Corporate Lobbyists, where are you when your Company need you ?

JayTee on September 19, 2013 at 1:30 PM

What does Putin think about this..?

d1carter on September 19, 2013 at 1:31 PM

He probably would veto it, and then it would truly be his shutdown.

crrr6 on September 19, 2013 at 1:31 PM

kingsjester‏@kingsjester1
By threatening to veto an Obamacare Defunding Bill, Obama is stating that he does not care what the majority of Americans want.

kingsjester on September 19, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Why is President Obama threatening to shut down govt to shove Obamacare down Americans’ throats?

Even if the House GOP didn’t want do go the “defund” route, why didn’t they push this message? It would give them more leverage. But, no, instead, they say that they don’t want to go along with conservatives’ “shutdown” strategy. Friggin’ idiots.

besser tot als rot on September 19, 2013 at 1:31 PM

“Don’t call my bluff John”

Rules for Radicals…

8.“Keep the pressure on. Never let up.”
9.“The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.”
10.”The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.”
11.“If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.”

Those rules are pretty handy right now aren’t they.

DanMan on September 19, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Isn’t it interesting that The One’s definition of “compromise” at home is always “I won- give me what I demand or else”.

But overseas it’s more like “What America wants or needs is irrelevant.”

As far as he’s concerned, the most dangerous thing on the planet is…us. Hence his obsession with control. Which is ultimately what O-care is all about.

It certainly isn’t about our health.

clear ether

eon

eon on September 19, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas: ‘I will do everything necessary and anything possible to defund Obamacare’ – @LukeRussert

33 mins ago from twitter.com/LukeRussert by editor

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 1:28 PM

There he goes, waving that white flag.

besser tot als rot on September 19, 2013 at 1:32 PM

*********************** DOA ******************************!!

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., says plans to defund Obama health law are dead on arrival in Senate – @jamiedupree

1 hour ago from twitter.com/jamiedupree by editor

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 1:29 PM

So then UNLESS the House funds OwebamaCare, Reid is going to shut down the government. Bottom line, Reid and ObaMao are the ones guilty of extortion.

How is that not an impeachable offense?

Meople on September 19, 2013 at 1:32 PM

All Republicans need to do now is get the “defund” CR through the Senate somehow and onto O’s desk for the veto.

No. All they need to do is send it to the Senate. If Hairy Reed wants to do nothing and shut the feral government down, then good for him. If the Senate passes it and Barky decides to veto the bill to shut down the feral government … then good for him. If the Senate tries to amend out the defunding, and is actually successful at that and passes what’s left … then it goes to conference, during which time the poor, widdle feral government will be “shut down” … the horror!

In any event, all the House has to do is pass their own funding bill. After that, it’s all in the hands of Hairy Reed and the Dog-Eating Imbecile. If they choose to close Washington … good for them. I feel safer with most of Washington not “working”.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 19, 2013 at 1:33 PM

obama and reid are for the shutdown.

The Rs have no clue how to communicate the truth.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 1:33 PM

The other shutdown did not hurt the Rs.

They won more seats after. It’s a meme that it hurt or will hurt the Rs.

It’s furthered by the media and the stupid Rs let them.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Here’s Boehner’s office having some fun with President Bumblefark, who reserves his toughest negotiating stance for his real enemy.

AP deserves a raise.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 1:35 PM

“If the President were presented with H.J. Res. 59, he would veto the bill.”

Do these people even understand the basics of government?

The President would not be presented with a House bill. It would have gotten through both the House and Senate and if it gets that far, then, a veto would mean that he personally shuts down government. When has this lazy stupid coward every done stuff without political cover?

The only reason why Congress ended up with a say about Syria is because Obama thought that the Brits support would give him top cover. When they didn’t he slithered back off that limb and started talking about Congressional authorization.

Happy Nomad on September 19, 2013 at 1:35 PM

obama looks demonic.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM

I can’t believe Senate Dems wouldn’t hold together to defeat the measure.

As Yoda said once wisely to Skywalker… ” and that is why you fail…”

Alinsky on September 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM

The fact that over 60% of America wants OwebamaCare dead, there is no possible way the Republicans can be hurt by taking a stand, growing a spine and doing everything they possibly can to kill it.

Meople on September 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Why is everything in DC handled in the last moments?

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Given up on the Republicans…it is just batten down the hatches and hope to ride out the next three years.

albill on September 19, 2013 at 1:37 PM

besser tot als rot on September 19, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Note Obama has been ramping up his rhetoric as the house GOP was trying to keep the lid on the shutdown angle…look who owns it now. Chin up!

With all the screaming about how the repubs are cracking and the demographics of the GOP will destroy the party you would think the dems would be much happier wouldn’t you. Perhaps things aren’t all peaches and late term abortions on their side after all.

DanMan on September 19, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Here’s the thing that the House GOP doesn’t seem to understand: plan beats no plan. Even if plan has little chance of success, it’s a plan. The House GOP has been in there for 2 and a half years, elected with the express purpose of rolling back Obamacare, and they’ve done nothing (other than engage in a little bit of theatre, passing meaningless repeal bills).

besser tot als rot on September 19, 2013 at 1:38 PM

In any event, all the House has to do is pass their own funding bill. After that, it’s all in the hands of Hairy Reed and the Dog-Eating Imbecile. If they choose to close Washington … good for them. I feel safer with most of Washington not “working”.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 19, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Yep, spending bills have to originate in the House but when Reid refuses to entertain any legislation that defunds Obamacare, it is the Senate Dems that are shutting down government.

And let’s remember one important thing. Obamacare is not like passage of the Voting Rights Act. It’s bad public policy. It is not a morally right, perfect or even popular idea. Do the Dems really want to go to the mattresses defending Obamacare in its current form?

Happy Nomad on September 19, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Why is everything in DC handled in the last moments?

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Makes for good TV.

BobMbx on September 19, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Won’t matter in the end — Reid won’t hold an up-or-down vote — but it’s good politics.

It is. But, you’ve got the House GOP busy undermining the value of the good politics to the GOP at every possible turn.

besser tot als rot on September 19, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Why is everything in DC handled in the last moments?

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Human nature. DC will take as much time as they have plus whatever time they can tack on through continuing resolutions and other tactics.

Happy Nomad on September 19, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Make him own what is his. Where’s that toothy smile now, Politico?

Kissmygrits on September 19, 2013 at 1:41 PM

What a fool this scumhag always is, with maybe 2-3 pretended exceptions.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 1:41 PM

House Republicans, Please understand. The American people WANT you to stop this killer of America as we know it. Please stand with the people and crush this take over!

birdwatcher on September 19, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Reid won’t hold an up-or-down vote

And here is where Republicans can start showing us they have the courage to see this through…by making sure that everyone, every one they come in contact with that Reid and friends are accountable for this mess in a relentless fashion, till he does have the vote and all cards are on the table.

All these SOBs playing with our lives should be made to suffer more than just squirming, but if that is the only tool at our disposal ATM, so be it.

Alinsky on September 19, 2013 at 1:42 PM

besser tot als rot on September 19, 2013 at 1:38 PM

They do have a plan, portability across state lines, health savings accounts, tax breaks for premium costs…pretty much the same plan John McCain presented in his run in 2008. With Obama’s win all of those options were squelched.

I do not want a government run plan even if its dreamed up by the GOP.

DanMan on September 19, 2013 at 1:43 PM

White House: Obama will veto any House bill that attempts to defund ObamaCare

Stupid f@3ks. They’ll never see a House bill that attempts to defund Obamacare. The only bill Obama will see is a Congressional bill because the only legislation sent to the White House for his signature is legislation approved by the House and the Senate.

Dusty on September 19, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Lookie here, fools for obama’care’.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 1:44 PM

US debt ceiling debate 2013

White House press secretary Jay Carney: White House will not negotiate over Congress’ responsibility to pay the bills Congress incurred – @NBCNews live video

9 mins ago from http://www.nbcnews.com by editor

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 1:45 PM

I’m beginning to think this besser tot fellow is a KingsGold fellow traveler.

DanMan on September 19, 2013 at 1:45 PM

WHOOP! WHOOP! Red Line!

Boehner, he just laid down another red line. Call his bluff.

Zero will back down.

dogsoldier on September 19, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Shorter Obama: If get a bill with a small portion of government funding missing, I’ll shut down the whole government.

Dusty on September 19, 2013 at 1:46 PM

Make the Senate Dems vote against it. It’s a political liability for them. ObamaCare is not going to become more popular before the election, if anything it’ll get less popular. And the Senate Dems voting against this will hurt them in the election.

Kevin R on September 19, 2013 at 1:46 PM

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., says plans to defund Obama health law are dead on arrival in Senate – @jamiedupree

1 hour ago from twitter.com/jamiedupree by editor

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Don’t mess with President Palpatine. He’ll call out his media stormtroopers.

Blistering attacks on Mike Lee and Ted Cruz in 5…..4…..3….

I hope neither one of them had sex with a goat, because the media is going to accuse them of it.

PappyD61 on September 19, 2013 at 1:46 PM

The LSM and dems will blame the gop because they made him veto the bill
Awwwwww

cmsinaz on September 19, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Yep, spending bills have to originate in the House Happy Nomad on September 19, 2013 at 1:40 PM

no, bills taht raise revenue have to originate in the house.

Section 7.
All bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with amendments as on other Bills.

chasdal on September 19, 2013 at 1:49 PM

NO FVCKING BALLS!

DO THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE YOU DUMB FVCKS!

FIGHT THE EVIL-DOERS, DON’T COWER…

I am so fvcking SICK of them playing with our lives, our money, our way of life, our faith, our beliefs.

TIME TO FVCKING TAKE A STAND AMERICA…

REBEL!!

(crawling back into hole)

Scrumpy on September 19, 2013 at 1:50 PM

The LSM and dems will blame the gop because they made him veto the bill
Awwwwww

cmsinaz on September 19, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Most of the attacks on Cruz and Lee have been coming from GOP members pissed because they actually had to do some work.

tetriskid on September 19, 2013 at 1:50 PM

Impeach this imbecile already.

John the Libertarian on September 19, 2013 at 1:50 PM

The House bill will never see the light of day in Dirty Harry’s Senate.

GarandFan on September 19, 2013 at 1:52 PM

The other shutdown did not hurt the Rs.

They won more seats after. It’s a meme that it hurt or will hurt the Rs.

It’s furthered by the media and the stupid Rs let them.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Absolutely false. The GOP damned near lost its majority in 1996 after the 95-96 shutdown fiasco. They went into the cycle with about 240 seats and survived with 223, just barely over a majority of 218.

The truly regrettable part is that Clinton was about to cave when Dole and Newt waved the white flag. And the GOP has been saddled with the burden of being the “party of shutdown” ever since.

matthew8787 on September 19, 2013 at 1:52 PM

The House should also start working on articles of impeachment along with the CR that defunds OwebamaCare.

Give the State-Run media something else they can stick in their pipe to smoke.

Meople on September 19, 2013 at 1:53 PM

Make the Senate Dems vote against it. It’s a political liability for them.

Yes, it is a political liability for the Dems. A vote would be nice. But there is no way Reid will allow a vote. He doesn’t have to take up the House bill, and won’t. Period.

matthew8787 on September 19, 2013 at 1:54 PM

(crawling back into hole)

Scrumpy on September 19, 2013 at 1:50 PM

Take good care Scrumpy, and say “Hi” to Jackie.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Repeat this often: The President will shut down all parts of the government within his discretion in order to save Obamacare.

It doesn’t matter who gets hurt. In fact, the more hurt, the better, as he plans on blaming the GOP for everything, ala Sequester.

applebutter on September 19, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Shut down the government, save America.

at this point, is that statement that far off?

PappyD61 on September 19, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Mike Lee wants conservatives to rally around the idea of forcing Reid to hold an up-or-down vote on the House “defund” bill, which means he thinks he can at least get close to 51 with the help of red-state Democrats. Can he? Pryor and Manchin are conceivably “no” votes on O-Care; Landrieu and Begich would have to think hard too. Even with Obama as weak as he is now, though, I can’t believe Senate Dems wouldn’t hold together to defeat the measure. It’d mean the end of his presidency effectively if they didn’t.

Which leads me to wonder:

A) Just how tied to BHO does Joe Biden think he is;

B) Just how serious is Joe Biden about running for POTUS, and;

C) How many friends in the US Senate does Joe Biden have?

JohnGalt23 on September 19, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Take good care Scrumpy, and say “Hi” to Jackie.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Will do Schad :)

Scrumpy on September 19, 2013 at 1:57 PM

There is no such thing as a “House bill.” There is a version of the CR that the House will pass and send to the Senate. There will be Senate bill that Reid will pass and send to the House. The only bill to be send anywhere will be the bill that passed by both the House and Senate or no bill will go forward. Count on no bill going immediately forward before 1 October.

I think a better strategy for the House Republicans is to send forth a CR that requires full implementation of O-care or no O-care for anybody.

jerryofva on September 19, 2013 at 1:57 PM

The truly regrettable part is that Clinton was about to cave when Dole and Newt waved the white flag. And the GOP has been saddled with the burden of being the “party of shutdown” ever since.

matthew8787 on September 19, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Meh, if they’d have been punished they’d have been gone. It was all hyped by the media and the idiots on the right side don’t know how to communicate. A loos would have meant that the Ds take over…whatever…keep kidding yourselves and let the media ‘win’ it for the left. It’s too much schadenfreude…why give up now?

Lib

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 1:58 PM

But there is no way Reid will allow a vote. He doesn’t have to take up the House bill, and won’t. Period.

matthew8787 on September 19, 2013 at 1:54 PM

So, he’s going to take responsibility for shutting down the government?

Happy Nomad on September 19, 2013 at 1:58 PM

The Republicans lose on this regardless of the outcome. The press will blame them and the public will follow.

bopbottle on September 19, 2013 at 1:59 PM

He doesn’t have to take up the House bill, and won’t. Period.

matthew8787 on September 19, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Cool…then tell the people, who in the super-majority hate obama’care’ that Harry and obama want the gov’t shut down over this.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 1:59 PM

Fine; then the shut-down, and any ‘extortion’ that occurs in terms of threats to withhold services, checks to seniors, etc – will be Obama’s head.

Do it.

Midas on September 19, 2013 at 2:00 PM

I like how Barry will negotiate with Al Qeada before he negotiates with Republicans.

Iblis on September 19, 2013 at 2:00 PM

Shut down the government, save America.

at this point, is that statement that far off?

PappyD61 on September 19, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Perfect. I hate the moochers but especially the looters who ruin her. Let it burn be.

The thugs in the gov’t have all forgotten who works to sustain their every frill. Teach them that dough doesn’t come from Bernanke and the banks.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 2:00 PM

Here’s Boehner’s office having some fun with President Bumblefark, who reserves his toughest negotiating stance for his real enemy.

Who do you think scares the hsit out of this guy ?
This guy?
or
This guy ?

burrata on September 19, 2013 at 2:01 PM

“The Resolution would defund the Affordable Care Act, denying millions of hard-working middle class families the security of affordable health coverage.

I’ll tell you what the Resolution will do. It will allow businesses to stop demoting workers to part-time status. It will stop even more hundreds of thousands of workers from losing business provided health insurance. It will stop the coming tsunami of business layoffs.

Defund Obamacare and tens of millions of Americans will be able to go back to work. Tens of millions of Americans will get their business provided health insurance back. Tens of millions of Americans will get back their old full time jobs.

Dusty on September 19, 2013 at 2:01 PM

This impeachment talk is so juvenile. It takes 67 votes to convict and no Democrat will vote to convict even if Obama was caught with both a dead girl and live boy in his bed. When the Republicans impeached Clinton it turned him into a martyr and it will do the same to Obama.

jerryofva on September 19, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Which leads me to wonder:

A) Just how tied to BHO does Joe Biden think he is;

B) Just how serious is Joe Biden about running for POTUS, and;

C) How many friends in the US Senate does Joe Biden have?

JohnGalt23 on September 19, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Totally irrelevant. There will be no vote in the Senate. Reid does not have to take up the House bill. We’ve been through this over and over.

And, for God’s sake, Biden is running for president. Do you think he would commit political suicide by voting against his own boss in pursuit of the Democratic nomination?

matthew8787 on September 19, 2013 at 2:03 PM

C’mon congress, for once stand on principle and forget party politics and protecting your positions. Do what is right for the country and not your petty self interests.

iamsaved on September 19, 2013 at 2:03 PM

*************** FilliBuster Alert **********************!!

House GOP proposal to fund government, defund Obamacare
Obama health care law

Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, says will use any means necessary, including filibuster, to ensure passage of continuing resolution that defunds health care law – @DailyCaller

15 mins ago from dailycaller.com by editor
==============================================

http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/19/cruz-says-he-would-filibuster-to-defund-obamacare/

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 2:04 PM

What does Putin think about this..?

d1carter on September 19, 2013 at 1:31 PM

More importantly have Douthat and Brooks weighed in?

NY Conservative on September 19, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Why is everything in DC handled in the last moments?

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Government bureaucratic implementation of the “just in time engineering” process – but they made it “not quite in time”.

dentarthurdent on September 19, 2013 at 2:06 PM

OT-

Just heard that Biden is going to Colorado to view the flood damage. Has Obama become so lazy that he can’t even be bothered in doing his job anymore?

Happy Nomad on September 19, 2013 at 2:06 PM

This impeachment talk is so juvenile. It takes 67 votes to convict and no Democrat will vote to convict even if Obama was caught with both a dead girl and live boy in his bed. When the Republicans impeached Clinton it turned him into a martyr and it will do the same to Obama.

jerryofva on September 19, 2013 at 2:02 PM

First, this is a different world than the one we lived in back in the late 90′s. And second, who gives a sh!t if it would get through the Dim controlled (for now) Senate?

Pass the articles the House and let the Dims in the Senate have to vote to acquit just prior to next year’s election.

Meople on September 19, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Mike Lee wants conservatives to rally around the idea of forcing Reid to hold an up-or-down vote on the House “defund” bill, which means he thinks he can at least get close to 51 with the help of red-state Democrats. Can he? Pryor and Manchin are conceivably “no” votes on O-Care; Landrieu and Begich would have to think hard too. Even with Obama as weak as he is now, though, I can’t believe Senate Dems wouldn’t hold together to defeat the measure. It’d mean the end of his presidency effectively if they didn’t.

Which leads me to wonder:

A) Just how tied to BHO does Joe Biden think he is;

B) Just how serious is Joe Biden about running for POTUS, and;

C) How many friends in the US Senate does Joe Biden have?

JohnGalt23 on September 19, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Very nice.

I think the prospects for a defund bill are not quite as gloomy as the defund opponents on this board think they are. There may be some Democrats who decide to support defund with an eye towards 2016 or their own Senatorial careers. It would be nice for Biden (or maybe even Hillary) if the Obamacare albatross wasn’t hanging around his neck. After Syria, the White House is looking very weak right now. Would a weak coward like Obama have the guts to veto a defund bill if it actually hit his desk? Let’s see if we can’t find out.

I’m not saying defund is some guaranteed success, but there may be more hope than people think there is. This presupposed a untied Republican Party, of course, which is unlikely to happen since I think a lot of them like and support Obamacare (and definitely don’t like Cruz).

Doomberg on September 19, 2013 at 2:07 PM

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 1:29 PM

So then UNLESS the House funds OwebamaCare, Reid is going to shut down the government. Bottom line, Reid and ObaMao are the ones guilty of extortion.

How is that not an impeachable offense?

Meople on September 19, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Meople:OOh dingy-dingy,and,not sure on ImPeachy!:)

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 2:07 PM

The thing about Obama, it’s got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll’s eyes. When it comes at you it doesn’t seem to be livin’… until he bites you, and those black eyes roll over white.

slickwillie2001 on September 19, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Lookie here, fools for obama’care’.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 1:44 PM

The Cleveland Clinic in Ohio employes 42,000 people. They are cutting their budget by 330,000,000 dollars. Possible lay off of
up to 3,000 people. Due to Obamacare.

bluefox on September 19, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Mike Lee wants conservatives to rally around the idea of forcing Reid to hold an up-or-down vote on the House “defund” bill, which means he thinks he can at least get close to 51 with the help of red-state Democrats. Can he? Pryor and Manchin are conceivably “no” votes on O-Care; Landrieu and Begich would have to think hard too. Even with Obama as weak as he is now, though, I can’t believe Senate Dems wouldn’t hold together to defeat the measure. It’d mean the end of his presidency effectively if they didn’t. Lee’s goal here, I assume, is simply to make this as politically excruciating as he can for the White House in order to repay Boehner and the House GOP for giving the “defund” movement a shot. Won’t matter in the end — Reid won’t hold an up-or-down vote — but it’s good politics.

They won’t even get to 25.

Steve Eggleston on September 19, 2013 at 2:08 PM

OT-

Just heard that Biden is going to Colorado to view the flood damage. Has Obama become so lazy that he can’t even be bothered in doing his job anymore?

Happy Nomad on September 19, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Happy Nomad:Correct,and Hopey:)
================================

President Obama will attend Clinton Global Initiative in New York Tuesday, will discuss healthcare with former President Clinton – @NBCNews live video

36 mins ago from http://www.nbcnews.com by editor
==============================================

Northern Colorado flooding, September 2013

On Sept. 23, Vice President Joe Biden, wife will travel to Colorado to view flood damage and survey recovery efforts – @NBCNews live video

38 mins ago from http://www.nbcnews.com by editor

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Do the Dems really want to go to the mattresses defending Obamacare in its current form?

Happy Nomad on September 19, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Considering El PRL wants the subsidies and their own carveouts, yes they do, will, and succeed completely in doing so.

Steve Eggleston on September 19, 2013 at 2:10 PM

DO it.

Make Obama own his words/action. For the first time in his entire life.

Sir Napsalot on September 19, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Like the sequester, what if nobody notices a government shutdown?

That would be like really bad for big government.

jukin3 on September 19, 2013 at 2:11 PM

Meiople:

I am tired of this childish behavior. Yeah the Democrats will turn it to their advantage just like they did in ’98. The public is less informed today than they were in 1998. They get news from Comedy Central in addition to the MSM. Failed impeachment is a bigger winner for the Democrats than in was 15 years ago. Hotair commentators sound more and more like the DU and Daily Kos everyday.

jerryofva on September 19, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Thats why delaying it would have better than defunding it. You vote to defund it, then its how the GOP doesn’t care about poor and sick people. You vote to delay it, and there it no coherent argument against delay as the employee mandate had been delayed.

Zaggs on September 19, 2013 at 2:12 PM

I sure am glad I read this. I had no idea what Obama would do.

The Rogue Tomato on September 19, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Reid is Obama’s cover man. It doesn’t matter how many votes there are in the Senate for this bill, it will never see Obama’s desk. If he has to, he’ll just ignore it.

BTW, this is WHY the GOP needs a Senate majority. Without Reid running cover for Obama 24/7, he will have to be the bad guy. His whole mystique is built upon never being the bad guy.

Chris of Rights on September 19, 2013 at 2:13 PM

“Any bill that defunds ObamaCare is dead, dead. It’s a waste of time, as I’ve said before,” Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid said.

Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said: “We’re sending the strong message to the House, we will not blink. Don’t get it into your heads that we will. We won’t. Don’t make it part of your strategy that eventually we’ll cave, we won’t. We’re unified, we’re together. You’re not.”

Sure looks like the Democrats are going to shut down the government. Not Republicans.

WisRich on September 19, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Why is everything in DC handled in the last moments?

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Makes for good TV.

BobMbx on September 19, 2013 at 1:40 PM

And for bloated pieces of “sausage” (only the butcher “forgets” to empty the all-natural casing).

Enjoy your lunch :-P

Steve Eggleston on September 19, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Has Obama become so lazy that he can’t even be bothered in doing his job anymore?

Happy Nomad on September 19, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Why would Hussein grace Colorado with his divine presence when they just recalled his 2 wingnuts ?

burrata on September 19, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Who complains anout government shutdowns besides bureaucrats, welfare queens and a bunch of others who only vote straight d anyway. Where’s the risk?

Lost in Jersey on September 19, 2013 at 2:18 PM

Why would Hussein grace Colorado with his divine presence when they just recalled his 2 wingnuts ?

burrata on September 19, 2013 at 2:17 PM

I’m surprised he gave them any disaster aid, really. I would have expected him to withhold it to punish Colorado.

Doomberg on September 19, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Best suggestion I’ve read here yet:

House simply begins passing a series of CRs funding the most vital and constitutionally-mandated functions of government: defense, postal service, etc. Everything except anything related to Obamacare. A series of separate bills, sum total not to exceed current debt-ceiling.

Then see which ones Reid takes up and the Senate passes and the President signs. Or see if Reid refuses to take up anything except a blanket CR covering everything. Or if the President refuses to sign anything less than a single CR covering everything.

With the House passage of each bill, Republicans announce that that are funding this, they are funding that– they ARE funding the government. It is Reid and/or the President who are shutting down the government by not passing or signing these bills.

I mean, what exactly is a dead-on-arrival, nonstarter bill that funds the military?

de rigueur on September 19, 2013 at 2:20 PM

jerryofva on September 19, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Ah, so you’re OK with Obama breaking the law and running guns to Al Qaeda in Syria? I’m glad that we all now know that you think standing up and holding him accountable for that is “childish”.

Meople on September 19, 2013 at 2:22 PM

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