White House: Obama will veto any House bill that attempts to defund ObamaCare

posted at 1:21 pm on September 19, 2013 by Allahpundit

Ted Cruz seizes the obvious talking-point opportunity:

All Republicans need to do now is get the “defund” CR through the Senate somehow and onto O’s desk for the veto.

“The Administration strongly opposes House passage of H.J. Res. 59, making continuing appropriations for fiscal year 2014 and for other purposes, because it advances a narrow ideological agenda that threatens our economy and the interests of the middle class,” the Office of Management and Budget said in the statement.

“The Resolution would defund the Affordable Care Act, denying millions of hard-working middle class families the security of affordable health coverage.

“If the President were presented with H.J. Res. 59, he would veto the bill.”

That last sentence was underlined and was the stronger version of a veto threat rather than the typical one that his advisers “would recommend” a veto.

Mike Lee wants conservatives to rally around the idea of forcing Reid to hold an up-or-down vote on the House “defund” bill, which means he thinks he can at least get close to 51 with the help of red-state Democrats. Can he? Pryor and Manchin are conceivably “no” votes on O-Care; Landrieu and Begich would have to think hard too. Even with Obama as weak as he is now, though, I can’t believe Senate Dems wouldn’t hold together to defeat the measure. It’d mean the end of his presidency effectively if they didn’t. Lee’s goal here, I assume, is simply to make this as politically excruciating as he can for the White House in order to repay Boehner and the House GOP for giving the “defund” movement a shot. Won’t matter in the end — Reid won’t hold an up-or-down vote — but it’s good politics.

Here’s Boehner’s office having some fun with President Bumblefark, who reserves his toughest negotiating stance for his real enemy.


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I don’t understand why Obama wants to hold the economy and the middle class hostage to shove an unpopular, economically destructive Obamacare bill down our throats when a majority of the American people don’t want it.

GOP Reps and Senators, repeat this, or something very much like it, at every press conference and every interview. Use the Allinsky playbook against them. Obama and the Dems will cave if you are relentless and consistent.

DRayRaven on September 19, 2013 at 2:23 PM

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 2:10 PM

So global warming is more important to the lazy stupid bastard than Americans suffering from massive flooding? GWB took heat for not manning sand bags on the breeched levees of New Orleans after Katrina. And, yet, here we have a President more interested in his agenda than slain civil servants four miles from his office or thousands of suffering Coloradans.

The hypocrisy continues.

Happy Nomad on September 19, 2013 at 2:24 PM

Dear Commie Bull Crap B. Obama part time President of the U.S.A.,

On Vetos:

We The People are going to VETO your ass, hide and watch.

Yours much pissed off,

Americans

APACHEWHOKNOWS on September 19, 2013 at 2:24 PM

How dare the conservatives try to defund a law that Obama is unlawfully and capriciously and corruptly implementing!

gwelf on September 19, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Organizing for Action, the non-profit group that branched off the Obama campaign, used this week’s Navy Yard shooting to ask supporters for donations in an e-mail. The e-mail asks supporters to “chip in today” after supporters​ sign an online petition to push for more gun-control measures.

“If you’re like me, you heard the news about the 12 Americans who died in D.C.’s Navy Yard shooting — and you had those familiar feelings of grief and frustration,” OFA executive director Jon Carson begins. “As President Obama said, these events are too common. We all stand numb, trying to wrap our minds around another tragedy that breaks our hearts.”

Typical democrats standing on piles of warm bodies with their grubby greedy hands out asking for money.

Murphy9 on September 19, 2013 at 2:27 PM

jerryofva on September 19, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Go cry somewhere else, douchebag.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 19, 2013 at 2:28 PM

The Rodeo Clown is hell bent on destroying the country.

Make the POS veto it.

justltl on September 19, 2013 at 2:29 PM

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 2:04 PM

God Bless Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Rand Paul and others that are doing whatever they can to save our Country from being destroyed by this evil Obamacare disaster.

Thanks canopfor!

bluefox on September 19, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Then go for it. If Obama is going shut down the govt then let him, and make sure Obama and the complicit Dems are held accountable in 2014.

I was just reading something in the paper: “People who make less than $92,000 — will be eligible for help (subsidies).” $92,000??? We are subsidizing those that make 92k??? Aren’t these people close to being in “the 1%?” Unadulterated insanity.

Take a stand against this monstrosity.

anotherJoe on September 19, 2013 at 2:38 PM

I don’t understand why Obama wants to hold the economy and the middle class hostage to shove an unpopular, economically destructive Obamacare bill down our throats when a majority of the American people don’t want it.

It’s very simple – Obama’s progressive / jacobin agenda is based on ‘fundamental change’ of the US in order to ‘fix’ what he, and his supporters, see is an unjust and unfair system in an unjust and unfair country.

They believe in equality of results as opposed to equality of opportunity – and need to invoke Cloward & Piven in order to achieve their ‘utopia’ where the federal government makes all of the needed decisions, enforcing via its decrees social justice and fairness (ie wealth redistribution and the reality of Orwell’s 1984 fascism).

Obamacare takes 1/6th of the total national economy and places it under federal government management and control. It’s not designed to fix anything – just be a bridge between what exists today and single payor – a US version of Britain’s NHS without the option for private insurance.

To the elitists of the progressive jacobin party, they don’t care that the plebes don’t like Obamacare. The plebes don’t know what is good for them which is why people like Obama are supposed to make the decisions.

Athos on September 19, 2013 at 2:42 PM

Wow, that trackback is impressive.

Chris of Rights on September 19, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Athos on September 19, 2013 at 2:42 PM

That’s about it, nicely laid out.

bluefox on September 19, 2013 at 2:47 PM

The issue for the House GOP isn’t as drastic or fraught with peril as the lamestream media or the progressive jacobins are trying to make out.

Pass a CR that completely defunds Obamacare. It goes to the Senate where Reid will either a) bring it up for a vote, knowing that he has the votes to defeat it, b) if he doesn’t have a vote, let the bill languish and embark on a press war trying to blame the resulting shutdown on the House (which will work with low information voters), or c) strip the language from another House bill, pass a CR that funds Obamacare, and sends that to the House to let them vote it up or down. If down, then try to make the GOP ‘own’ the shutdown.

If the House CR dies in the Senate or is bounced back with Obamacare funding, then the House GOP passes a CR that includes some / most of the funding for Obamacare – but delays the employee and individual mandates one year / grants everyone a 1 year waiver on Obamacare – and sends that back to the Senate.

The monkey is back on Reid’s back – but the Dems are now stuck in a tough place. They also know what an “EpicClusterFarkNado” that this is – and the damage that it’s doing to the national economy. Getting a 1 year reprieve on it might be enough for some at risk Dems to support it and the new CR. Then the focus moves to – how to fix this “EpicClusterFarkNado” given what’s been happening over the last 3 years.

Or Reid and Obama can force a stand down / shutdown – at which point no matter if the GOP caves and funds it unchanged – it and all of it’s effects are owned by Obama & Congressional Dems going into the 2014 midterms. Even with the bias and lies of the lamestream media – it’s a millstone that they regret wearing.

Athos on September 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Best suggestion I’ve read here yet:

House simply begins passing a series of CRs funding the most vital and constitutionally-mandated functions of government: defense, postal service, etc. Everything except anything related to Obamacare. A series of separate bills, sum total not to exceed current debt-ceiling.

de rigueur on September 19, 2013 at 2:20 PM

No, not CRs. Send actual appropriation bills. Easiest way to write them is to just take last year’s spending, add 0% to it, and pass it.

Note, that I don’t normally suggest using last year’s spending as a guide. That’s a big part of how we got into this mess. But this method really puts pressure on the Senate, and Reid in particular.

Ram them down his throat. Force Reid to be the bad guy.

Chris of Rights on September 19, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Here’s Boehner’s office having some fun with President Bumblefark, who reserves his toughest negotiating stance for his real enemy.

Ladies and Gentlemen, further proof that our very own AP is the Undisputed Heavyweight Snark Champion!

Shove it down their throats until it burns, then keep shoving and do it on television. Call a major press conference first and make the media do their Constitutional Duty as the fourth estate, don’t let the Dem’s and their media lackeys sell it for their own benefit. Go Sen.’s Cruz, Lee & Paul. Someone(s) in the damn House needs to step up and lead on this issue as well, stop the infighting and lead the fight, that is what barky fears the most – leadership! Remember that the overwhelming majority of the country hates this law and wants it repealed.

D-fusit on September 19, 2013 at 2:53 PM

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Outstanding.

I’m telling you people, the only way to deal with a mouth is to call it’s bluff. Zero and Reid are all mouth. Senator Cruz, PLEASE get the GOP to stand and be true.

FIGHT THIS.

Obama will back off this red line just as he did in Syria. We just need to drive home just how unpopular ZeroCare ™ is.

It’s a ClusterFarkNado ™

dogsoldier on September 19, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Athos on September 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM

I agree with this, although I like the idea of dropping a dozen actual appropriation bills (sans Obamacare funding) on Reid’s desk better.

However, there’s no reason Boehner et al can’t do both.

Chris of Rights on September 19, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Actually that’s EpicClusterFarkNado ™

dogsoldier on September 19, 2013 at 2:54 PM

justltl on September 19, 2013 at 2:29 PM

He won’t, that’s just it. He will cave. When he is forced to face the fact that the American people HATE ZeroCare, he will fold.

dogsoldier on September 19, 2013 at 2:56 PM

White House: Obama will veto any House bill that attempts to defund ObamaCare

So?

As Sen. Cruz notes, why is Obysmal threatening to shut down the government? Why does the preezy want to go to such extreme extremes? (Throw that term back against the Dems.)

Obysmalcare is damaging to the middle class.

onlineanalyst on September 19, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Rand Paul this morning on Fox (Video)

http://video.foxnews.com/v/2681328499001/sen-paul-addresses-criticism-from-house-gop-on-obamacare/

bluefox on September 19, 2013 at 3:27 PM

I’m surprised he gave them any disaster aid, really. I would have expected him to withhold it to punish Colorado.

Doomberg on September 19, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Hussein doesn’tneed CO anymore, heck he doesn’t even need America anymore.
But Killery does, and that is exactly what Hussein will be doing from now on. Killery 2016.

burrata on September 19, 2013 at 3:34 PM

MAYBE THE GOP IS PLAYING INTO OBAMA’S HANDS BY STOPPING THIS TRAINWRECK.

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/176222/

Go there and read it. It is like Obama and the dems planned for this to be a train wreck to
put America in chaos…….

I have been on the gov site. It is a disaster. My doctors are frantic because they
will be losing most of their income when the insurance gravy train derails.

I am frantic because I will lose my insurance and meds. I cannot afford $2500 a month
to continue my meds. It’s like every man for himself. I feel a disturbance in the force.

redguy on September 19, 2013 at 3:53 PM

White House: Obama will veto any House bill that attempts to defund ObamaCare -thereby owning the shutdown.

socalcon on September 19, 2013 at 3:56 PM

redguy on September 19, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Wow, I just read that email. Disaster is not the word for it. I haven’t read the comments yet.

Ted Cruz & Mike Lee need this info. I’ve never had any success in using the HA tip line, but this would be a good topic for a thread.

$2500 a month? Good grief, I don’t know how anyone could afford that.

I posted this yesterday on another HA thread:

OBAMACARE COMPANIES PULLING OUT OF EXCHANGES:

Aetna Inc., has announced it will not sell insurance on New York’s Obamacare health insurance exchange

The other states Aetna has opted out of for Obamacare insurance exchange participation are Maryland, Ohio, Georgia, and Connecticut.

Aetna never intended to participate in California, and Anthem Blue Cross and United Health Group made a similar decision to steer clear of California’s Obamacare exchanges as well.

My question was so now what? What Insurance companies ARE even going to be in the Exchanges?

bluefox on September 19, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Chris of Rights on September 19, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Yes, completely agree. The reiterative effect is what makes this approach particularly compelling from both a practical a pr/polictical standpoint:

“Here’s another one! And another one! See? Bill after bill, we just keep them coming. We’re just funding away here in the House, and the Senate is ignoring our military, our national parks, Social Security, Homeland Security, clean air and water, the children, and on and on, in favor of one single trainwreck program that everybody wants out of!”

de rigueur on September 19, 2013 at 4:37 PM

‘Obama will veto any House bill that attempts to defund ObamaCare’

Golly. Nobody ever saw that one coming…

locomotivebreath1901 on September 19, 2013 at 5:07 PM

In the end a cabal of Republicrats, led by a crying Boehner, will trot over to a summit with Obama (overt or covert) and come back “caved as usual” saying they “did the best we could.”

It’s all a giant game (maybe except for Cruz–which explains why the GOP hates him and tried to stop him in the first place.)

Don L on September 19, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Maybe for a big fee, we can get Putin to do our battles on Obamacare. Offer his something like a new hunting rifle or a bow.

Don L on September 19, 2013 at 5:45 PM

To all of these Establishment Republicans who are so eager to cave on Obamacare because they think shutting down the government will cost them the House:

Wake up. People who support Obamacare will never vote for you anyway, so all you are doing is pissing off the people who put you in office. Good luck keeping the House when almost everyone hates you.

DRayRaven on September 19, 2013 at 6:30 PM

In a radio interview with Andrea Tantaros earlier today, for example, Cruz aimed most of his barbs at the GOP, despite House Republicans’ decision only hours earlier to embrace his plan on the CR.
“Right now, I can tell you, the people who are fighting the hardest against our efforts to defund Obamacare are not Democrats, it’s Republicans. It’s Republicans who have been leading the onslaught, trying to stop this. Because they’re afraid of the political risk. They’re afraid of being blamed politically,” he said.

Jonathan Strong, nationalreview.com, Sept 18, 2013, 6:36 PM

.
Damn “the political risk”, FULL SPEED AHEAD !

Defund Obamacare NOW.

listens2glenn on September 19, 2013 at 6:32 PM

Maybe for a big fee, we can get Putin to do our battles on Obamacare. Offer his something like a new hunting rifle or a bow.

Don L on September 19, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Or a bigger horse since he has a rider:-)

bluefox on September 19, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Conservatives are evil for wanting to defund a law Obama refuses to fully implement and has unlawfully exempted federal bureaucrats and other well connected groups from?

gwelf on September 19, 2013 at 8:22 PM

“the 1%?” Unadulterated insanity.

Take a stand against this monstrosity.

anotherJoe on September 19, 2013 at 2:38 PM

It’s the one percent of the one percent running the show. They will squeeze all they can out of us middle class folk to be sure, but the real money’s up on the higher rungs of the ladder below the top.

Trillionaires like the Rothschild Family and multi-billionaires looking to rape the millionaires.

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 19, 2013 at 8:24 PM

Obama can’t “veto” the taxation process.

Obamacare has already been deemed a tax by the SC. Otherwise, under any other definition, it’s not Constitutional.

The House of Representatives is the only ‘power’ of government that can tax (create it, authorize it, manage it, etc.).

Obama as President can disagree with how that tax called Obamacare is affected by the House but he can’t do a darn thing about it.

Lourdes on September 19, 2013 at 8:31 PM

And Obama still says Obamacare “is not a tax.”

Even the SC says it is such.

Obama’s not in touch with reality, about this or just about anything else, apparently.

Lourdes on September 19, 2013 at 8:33 PM

Let him shut it down. Republicans are willing to fund the entire government except for Obamacare!
No such thing as “shutting down”!
The government will be funded but Obamacare isn’t in it!
Let Obama veto and the House will NOT FUND!
The President can’t print money! Or at least he doesn’t know he can’t?
He is a prickincheif if he will veto a bill that funds the entire government and leaves out one thing!
Screw him and the crowd he rode into town on!

Delsa on September 19, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Question- If majority of Americans want Obamacare repealed or defunded, why didn’t they vote for a President Romney or a Republican Senate? It seems like that would have been a perfect way to achieve that goal. Or maybe a majority are truly happy with Obamacare.

loveofcountry on September 19, 2013 at 9:45 PM

loveofcountry on September 19, 2013 at 9:45 PM

That is a good question..Since that was the last realistic chance to do it..Very good question..:)

Dire Straits on September 19, 2013 at 9:49 PM

Let him shut it down. Republicans are willing to fund the entire government except for Obamacare!
No such thing as “shutting down”!
The government will be funded but Obamacare isn’t in it!
Let Obama veto and the House will NOT FUND!
The President can’t print money! Or at least he doesn’t know he can’t?
He is a prickincheif if he will veto a bill that funds the entire government and leaves out one thing!
Screw him and the crowd he rode into town on!

Delsa on September 19, 2013 at 9:08 PM

It would be nice if it actually worked that way but Lee,Cruz and maybe Marco will all have to filibuster the bill that Dingy Harry won’t bring up for a vote.In the end there will be nothing for the Senate to vote on and it will then be spun by the DBM that we are shutting down the govt. and we will lose big time as we always do.
Meanwhile, the stakes are Benghazi, irs,nsa debacles,a dozen other scandals,the 2014 elections,all so our guys can filibuster a bill that will never be brought up before the Senate.
Hope it’s worth it.

rodguy911 on September 19, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Meanwhile, the stakes are Benghazi, irs,nsa debacles,a dozen other scandals,the 2014 elections,all so our guys can filibuster a bill that will never be brought up before the Senate.
Hope it’s worth it.

rodguy911 on September 19, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Agreed!..:)

Dire Straits on September 19, 2013 at 10:52 PM

White House: Obama will veto any House bill that attempts to defund ObamaCare

Well then, every House bill should attempt to defund ObamaCare.

rukiddingme on September 19, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Go for it, dude!

wdkeller on September 20, 2013 at 12:05 AM

Liberals think that it is immoral to make a profit while providing health care to “the people.”
The libs want ALL health-care providers on the government payroll and, even better, members of a government-employee union.
The libs want ALL private corporations run out of the health-care business. PERIOD!

Obamacare was step one in that goal and they are willing to die on that hill.
I say we help them up that hill.

shorebird on September 20, 2013 at 1:38 AM

Do it.

Shut the government down.

This is a big f-in deal after all.

I refuse to subject myself to this government any longer.

Skywise on September 20, 2013 at 8:14 AM

[To Obama]

Do it….DO IT, you POS!

You LIED to the American people when you PROMISED:
1) It will not cost a dime…
2) It will pay for itself…
3) It will reduce the deficit…
4) It will LOWER the cost of health insurance…
5) If ‘you’ like the Insurance you have you can keep it…
6) It will NOT cause people to LOSE their insurance
7) It will NOT cause people to lose their jobs…
8) EVERY health care meeting will be shown on TV
9) People will have at least 48 hours to read any bill before it is signed

- Only 1 – the 1st – meeting was shown on TV, before the Democrats drug discussions back down into the dark behind closed doors where they could starting throwing out bribes like the ‘Cornhusker Kickback’ to get Democrats to go along with it…

- NO Politician read the bill before it was passed, and WORSE YET your elitist, tyranical fellow Democrats declared to the American people that we had NO RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT WAS IN THE BILL – a bill that would affect our lives so completely – UNTIL IT WAS PASSED…

- You & your fellow Liberals rammed the bill into law in the wee hours of the morning against the will of the MAJORITY of Americans’ will…

- Obamacare is Un-Constitutional in that it contains a mandate that violates religious freedom in this country….

- Chief Justice violated the Constitution by Re-Writing your law TWICE from the bench in order to save it….

- YOU CONTINUALLY VIOLATE the Constitution by continuing to MODIFY THE LAW, which only Congress can do to a law once it is passed…

- Your Un-Constitutional modifications are a feeble attempt to plug the wholes this Law has and prevent / postpone some of the damage this law does to the middle class, small business, and large business….and even THEN you hand out waivers for only LARGE businesses, providing UN-Equal treatment for small businesses and the American people who are being hurt by this bill…

- This bill was SO BAD that before the ink from your signature signing it into law was even dry you were already signing waivers to companies who were going to have to FIRE workers because of your mandates…

- This bill is a business and job-destroying nightmare. Many small businesses have closed because of it; businesses have had to FIRE workers because of the mandates; the unions who initially supported it now call for its repeal because it is so damaging to workers – they have CORRECTLY declared that Obamacare is destroying the 40-hour work week – the backbone of the American work system as businesses have cut back work hours due to the destructive mandates…

- When the opposition to Obamacare began to grow within Congress, to even include Democrats who have declared this bill to be a ‘train wreck’, You stepped in to Un-Constitutionally modify the law again by OFFERING CONGRESS A BRIBE, mandating the American people they all $CREWED by passing this law would pay up to 70% of their and their staff’s Obamacare premiums …if they did not attempt to defund / repeal Obamacare…

So when – God-willing – the GOP is smart enough to pass a Continuing Resolution that funds EVERYTHING in the government EXCEPT Obamacare and sends it up to the Senate, I want to see Harry Reid and the Democrats up for re-election in 2014 vote it down and tell the American people why THEY are willing to SHUTDOWN THE GOVERNMENT over THIS Anti-American, business/job-destroying bill!

So when – God-willing – the GOP is smart enough to pass a Continuing Resolution that funds EVERYTHING in the government EXCEPT Obamacare and it makes all the way to YOUR DESK for YOUR Signature, I want to see YOU veto it and tell the American people why YOU are willing to SHUTDOWN THE GOVERNMENT over THIS Anti-American, business/job-destroying bill!

easyt65 on September 20, 2013 at 8:15 AM

Dire Straits on September 19, 2013 at 9:49 PM

I have been wrestling with this also. My best guess is I think after the 2010 election, the GOP took for granted what they were given and blew it. By nominating a terrible candidate and not holding Obama accountable caused people to stay home in 2012. I fault both the GOP for their terrible record and voters who stayed home. It only made any opposition to Obama weaker until now but I am still skeptical of the First Weeper’s sincerity to really defund Obamacare.

gatorfanatic on September 20, 2013 at 10:14 AM

SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT ALL DOWN!

Hammie on September 20, 2013 at 11:25 AM

easyt65 on September 20, 2013 at 8:15 AM

Thank you easyt65 for taking the time to post all of that info.
Some of it, I had forgotten. Good to refresh the memory from time to time. It’s a keeper.

Oh, God is willing and now we must make sure Reid & the Senate are willing.

bluefox on September 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM

This this guy is heartless. He doesn’t care how many jobs are lost if he shuts down the coal mines, offshore drilling, Keystone pipeline.
He’s shown no concern that Obamacare has created loss of jobs or converted full-time jobs to part time.
He prefers to make the people ward of the state by easing food stamps, and welfare eligibility.

RdLake on September 20, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Obama Priorities:

1) Aiding Mexico’s government/Law enforcement get back those thousands of guns he gave the Mexican drug cartels which have resulted in over 300 deaths?
…NOPE.

2) Protecting our American Ambassador & other Americans; sending help when needed?
…NOPE.

3) Getting to the bottom of the targeting of & finally ending the on-going targeting of the IRS’ targeting of Americans?
…NOPE.

4) Ending the Un-Constitutional & admittedly highly illegal NSA spying of on the American people?
…NOPE.

5) Getting a budget, which is required by law annually, passed, the 1st one in 5 years/since the Democrats took over the House and Senate?
…NOPE.

6) Passing a balanced budget amendment to prevent more accumulated debt, reducing the amount of deficit-spending, and reducing the amount of debt that is threatening to destroy our economy and destroy our nation?
…NOPE.

7) Saving his POS ‘Legacy’ Health Care/Economy/Businesss/Job-destroying Obamacare legislation, a law built on lies and designed – as Harry Reid admitted – to destroy the US health care system to help usher in ‘single payer’ AND raising the debt ceiling so he can CONTINUE to add to his record-setting deficit spending / debt adding razing of the United States?
….BINGO!

Obama could care less how much more of our children’s debt is motgaged to pay for his record-setting deficit spending and un-Constitutional laws/actions!

Wake up America – our President is the biggest threat to the nation that we face right now!

easyt65 on September 23, 2013 at 8:35 AM

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