Issa’s new effort on Benghazi probe: a subpoena for Hillary Clinton?

posted at 10:41 am on September 19, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Politico headlines their piece on Rep. Darrell Issa’s probe into the sacking of the consulate in Benghazi as his “crusade,” a term which Issa might not entirely dislike.  Refusing to take stonewalling as a final answer and armed with more information from key whistleblowers, Issa plans to hold a new round of hearings after four months of lower-key efforts to get answers from the State Department and the CIA about the circumstances that led to the deaths of four Americans:

Darrell Issa will resume hammering the White House on Benghazi on Thursday after four months of relative silence on the subject, as his committee interrogates two of the chief independent investigators of the attacks on the U.S. diplomatic outposts in Libya.

Issa’s House Oversight and Government Reform Committee will basically investigate the independent investigation by the Accountability Review Board. The ARB released a December report detailing the Obama administration’s response to the attacks, calling for tighter security at many embassies but stopping short of laying blame on senior officials in the State Department. …

Republicans have accused Mullen and Pickering of protecting [former Secretary of State Hillary] Clinton in their report by not citing her for any breaches of leadership. By pushing back at their report — both at the methods and the content — Republicans hope to erode one of the biggest defenses of Clinton.

“The takeaway is going to be that diplomatic security continues to be a political and policy decision,” Issa told POLITICO. “The State Department, that not providing sufficient security for the ambassador and the consulate personnel was a policy decision more than a professional security decision.”

Democrats tell Politico that the testimony of Pickering and Mullen will vindicate the ARB, but that seems unlikely.  Pickering himself admitted that he only interviewed lower-level State officials because he had decided beforehand where the blame should be fixed, telling Bob Schieffer in May, “We knew where the responsibility rested.”  The ARB ignored Undersecretary Patrick Kennedy, who made decisions on consulate security, but who also was a key aide to the Clintons during Bill Clinton’s presidency and during all of Hillary Clinton’s tenure at State.

Will Issa get Hillary Clinton back to testify?  The Daily Mail reports that a subpoena might be in the offing:

Republicans are mulling whether to demand former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s return to Capitol Hill to face more tough questions about her agency’s failure to protect diplomats and security staff in Benghazi, Libya a year ago.

An aide to a high-ranking GOP member of the House Oversight and Government Affairs committee told MailOnline that the committee’s chairman, California Rep. Darrell Issa, ‘is dead serious’ about raking the likely 2016 presidential candidate over the coals in the future.

‘Look, it’s not like we’re getting great answers from the deputies and under secretaries,’ the staffer said on Wednesday. ‘So eventually you have to climb the ladder and swear Hillary in again.’

‘I’m not saying “The fish stinks from the head,” or anything like that,’ the aide cautioned. ‘Just that the committee leaders on our side want answers and they’re not going to let up.’

Issa told the Fox News Channel on Wednesday morning that his committee won’t hesitate to bring back any of the senior-level witnesses who have already testified about the September 11, 2012 terror attack on American diplomatic facilities in the eastern Libya port city.

And that includes Hillary Clinton.

‘We can certainly have Mrs. Clinton back,’  Issa told Fox. ‘We want to be respectful of her time, so getting to the facts – including people below her – first is critical.’

Issa sounds less inclined to issue a subpoena than to force Hillary back to the panel on her own volition.  Undermining the ARB report will be a first step, and I’d expect that Issa has confidence in his ability to do that.  Otherwise, he’d skip calling Pickering and Mullen and just focus on the CIA survivors, who will eventually get subpoenaed to testify.  With the previous testimony from State Department whistleblowers in hand, Issa will next aim at Kennedy — and will be bolstered in that effort by an independent review that named Kennedy as a responsible party, unlike the ARB, a discrepancy that Issa will no doubt highlight.

If they build the case all the way to Kennedy, that will put a lot of public pressure on Hillary to make an appearance at the Oversight hearings, which takes the onus off of Republicans to issue a subpoena.  At that point, Issa will issue a public invitation to Hillary to address the issues that have arisen from a multitude of sources about the incompetence and deceit at State during her tenure.  If she refuses to appear, that’s not going to look good, regardless of whether she wants to run for office later or not.  It won’t prevent Oversight from making a damning case about her leadership at State, either.

What about the Senate?  Will they conduct their own investigation into Benghazi, where Democrats can control the probe?  Ted Cruz offered an amendment with Pat Toomey yesterday to launch a joint effort with the House, but Barbara Boxer immediately objected (via Twitchy):


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it makes a difference, sister…. and don’t even think that you’ll get off by complain’n about bein’ taaaaaard of hearing about your failure in Benghazi…..

ted c on September 19, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Will they conduct their own investigation into Benghazi, where Democrats can control the probe? Ted Cruz offered an amendment with Pat Toomey yesterday to launch a joint effort with the House, but Barbara Boxer immediately objected

Bitter souless withered partisan whore-politicians have to stick together. The blood wasn’t even dry in the Benghazi courtyard before the mission went from smuggling arms to protecting the thin-skinned rat (who went to bed) and the pig-in-a-pantsuit.

But if it comes to subpoenas, I’m sure Killary will have a relapse which would preclude her appearance.

Happy Nomad on September 19, 2013 at 10:47 AM

He should subpoena Nakoula.

abobo on September 19, 2013 at 10:47 AM

More theater from Issa.

Almost 150 days of nothing on IRS.

Nothing on Benghazi.

I’m sure another letter will get people to stop breaking the law.

tetriskid on September 19, 2013 at 10:49 AM

LIVE NOW:

BENGHAZI:

Video: House committee holds Benghazi hearing
***********************************************

http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 10:46 AM

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 10:51 AM

It’s not about finding the truth about Benghazi to the Democrats, it’s about protecting Obama/Hillary…Murdered Americans be damned…

sandee on September 19, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Barbara Boxer immediately objected

OK, Senator Ma’am!

22044 on September 19, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Darrell Issa ‏@DarrellIssa 1h

#Benghazi hearing starts in 10 minutes. Watch LIVE here: http://1.usa.gov/17vKrnb
=========================

Reviews of the Benghazi Attack and Unanswered Questions

Full Committee
September 19, 2013 | 9:30 a.m. in 2154 Rayburn House Office Building
*********

Witness and Testimony Documents
Ambassador Thomas R. Pickering
Chairman
Benghazi Accountability Review Board
Admiral Michael G. Mullen, USN (Ret.)
Vice-Chairman
Benghazi Accountability Review Board
Mark J. Sullivan
Chairman, Independent Panel on Best Practices
Former Director, United States Secret Service
Todd Keil
Member, Independent Panel on Best Practices
Former Asst. Secretary for Infrastructure Protection, U.S. Department of Homeland Security
Ms. Patricia Smith
Mother of Sean Smith
Mr. Charles Woods
Father of Tyrone Woods
======================

http://oversight.house.gov/hearing/reviews-of-the-benghazi-attacks-and-unanswered-questions/

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 10:54 AM

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/11/Judicial-Watch-Releases-New-Report-on-Benghazi

From the article and it does not state who the DOS person was that hired this security firm.
“DOS hired a British firm, Blue Mountain, to manage its security in Benghazi, and Blue Mountain subcontracted the job to a local jihadist militia called the February 17 Martyrs Brigade who have known Muslim Brotherhood ties.”
The Report adds that [Regional Security Officer in Libya, Eric] “Nordstrom testified at the October 11, 2012 Congressional hearings that ‘in deference to sensitivity to Libyan practice, the guards at Benghazi were unarmed’– an inexplicable practice for a place as dangerous as Benghazi.” Nordstrom also “told Congressional investigators that DOS Deputy Assistant Director for International Programs Charlene] Lamb “wanted to keep the number of U.S. security personnel in Benghazi ‘artificially low.”

fourdeucer on September 19, 2013 at 10:55 AM

That slimy broad need to be accountable for her lies and obfuscation. It was obviously Clinton and oba-mao that called off any response with an “oh well” attitude. When o’ when are we going to call out and expose these blatant liars. When the repubics get balls I guess…… never happen.

ultracon on September 19, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Nordstrom also “told Congressional investigators that DOS Deputy Assistant Director for International Programs Charlene] Lamb “wanted to keep the number of U.S. security personnel in Benghazi ‘artificially low.”

fourdeucer on September 19, 2013 at 10:55 AM

Issa should subpoena lamb and tell her “Well we have 4 less personnel there now so I guess you got your wish”.

VegasRick on September 19, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Now that she’s had time to recuperate from falling down drunk and knocking herself cross-eyed, maybe we will get better answers?

slickwillie2001 on September 19, 2013 at 11:00 AM

“We knew where the responsibility rested.”

Nothing like having a conclusion BEFORE you begin your investigation. But then, I suppose you save a lot of time that way.

GarandFan on September 19, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Face it, we already know what the pig-in-a-pantsuit would do if given a subpoena. We saw it when Congress called her to testify how she managed to make hundreds of thousands of dollars on future commodities without any knowledge of the market……

I don’t recall.

I don’t remember.

I don’t know.

Etc.

Happy Nomad on September 19, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Darrell Issa ‏@DarrellIssa 13m

MICA on @StateDept #Benghazi review: The American people feel like the gov’t let them down; no one held accountable.
=================================================

https://twitter.com/DarrellIssa

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Ding ding ding sandee

cmsinaz on September 19, 2013 at 11:12 AM

More theater from Issa.

Almost 150 days of nothing on IRS.

Nothing on Benghazi.

I’m sure another letter will get people to stop breaking the law.

tetriskid on September 19, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Overpromise, underdeliver.

loveofcountry on September 19, 2013 at 11:13 AM

Dang you tube video
/

cmsinaz on September 19, 2013 at 11:13 AM

MeanWhile, Pelosium weighs in,on the Navy Yard Ordeal:

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif, on shooting at Washington Navy Yard: US deserves ‘more than a moment of silence’ – @LukeRussert

1 min ago from twitter.com/LukeRussert by editor
====================================================

http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 11:14 AM

So Boxer is now against transparency and draining the swamp which means she hates women and blacks.

Bishop on September 19, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Is Issa the problem nothing happens on these investigations? Or is he trying to drag them out until the 2014 elections?

albill on September 19, 2013 at 11:15 AM

I’ll believe it when I see it.

Philly on September 19, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Dang you tube video
/

cmsinaz on September 19, 2013 at 11:13 AM

cmsinaz:Here ye go:—————————–:0
====================================================

Darrell Issa ‏@DarrellIssa 1h

#Benghazi hearing starts in 10 minutes. Watch LIVE here: http://1.usa.gov/17vKrnb

http://oversight.house.gov/hearing/reviews-of-the-benghazi-attacks-and-unanswered-questions/

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 11:16 AM

So Boxer is now against transparency and draining the swamp which means she hates women and blacks.

Bishop on September 19, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Well, being neither, Boxer is out of touch with their needs. /

Happy Nomad on September 19, 2013 at 11:17 AM

So Boxer is now against transparency and draining the swamp which means she hates women and blacks.

Bishop on September 19, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Bishop:

The swamp eh,I guess she gots it in, for the LizardVoters too!:)
(sarc)

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 11:18 AM

Darrell Issa is the Dan Burton of our times.
He’ll be shooting a watermelon soon.

verbaluce on September 19, 2013 at 11:19 AM

OT- Texas appeals court overturns 2010 money laundering conviction of ex-US House leader Tom DeLay.

The partisan Democrat witch hunt comes to an end.

Happy Nomad on September 19, 2013 at 11:20 AM

CSPAN
*****

House Oversight (@GOPOversight @OversightDems) hearing on #Benghazi Attack – LIVE on C-SPAN3 http://t.co/YZcwcM5vg1
=========================================================

House Oversight Cmte. Questions Report on Benghazi Attack
**********************************************************

Washington, DC
Thursday, September 19, 2013
*****************************

The House Oversight Committee holds a hearing as part of its ongoing investigation into the Benghazi attack. Accountability Review Board (ARB) Chairmen testify about their group’s report on the Sept. 11, 2012 assault.

The ABR Benghazi report noted that “systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies at senior levels within two bureaus of the State Department resulted in a Special Mission security posture that was inadequate for Benghazi and grossly inadequate to deal with the attack that took place.”

Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) released his own report Monday about the Benghazi attack. The report criticizes the ABR and called it a flawed investigation.

ARB Chairman Ambassador Thomas Pickering and Vice Chairman Admiral Michael Mullen testify about their groups’ findings on the attack.

On Wednesday, the House Foreign Affairs Committee called State Department Under Secretary Patrick Kennedy to testify about his agency’s handling of the terrorist attack.

Updated: 1 hr., 1 min. ago
===========================

http://www.c-span.org/Events/House-Oversight-Cmte-Questions-Report-on-Benghazi-Attack/10737441538-1/

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 11:22 AM

More theater from Issa.

Almost 150 days of nothing on IRS.

Nothing on Benghazi.

I’m sure another letter will get people to stop breaking the law.

tetriskid on September 19, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Overpromise, underdeliver.

loveofcountry on September 19, 2013 at 11:13 AM</blockquote

Well what do ya know…..

you just described every Democrat you support..

…so you should be solidly behind what Issa is doing…

ToddPA on September 19, 2013 at 11:22 AM

OT- Texas appeals court overturns 2010 money laundering conviction of ex-US House leader Tom DeLay.

The partisan Democrat witch hunt comes to an end.

Happy Nomad on September 19, 2013 at 11:20 AM

Happy Nomad:Excellent:)

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 11:23 AM

US consulate attacked in Libya

House Democrats’ report concludes US military wasn’t ordered to ‘stand down’ during 2012 Benghazi attack – @AP

5 mins ago from bigstory.ap.org by editor
=============================================

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/house-dems-no-stand-down-order-during-benghazi

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 11:24 AM

Issa will only subpoena her IF it’s okay for her to tell the truth. And the truth starts with one question: Did you have authority over the Benghazi mission/presence? If not, who did?

platypus on September 19, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Thanks Canopfor!

Just read about delay conviction overturned. HN

cmsinaz on September 19, 2013 at 11:26 AM

US consulate attacked in Libya

Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., at Benghazi hearing: ‘I am in the process of issuing subpoenas because the State Department has not made those people available’ – @politico

4 mins ago from http://www.politico.com by editor
==============================================

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/democrats-push-back-on-benghazi-97036.html?hp=l1

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Thanks Canopfor!

Just read about delay conviction overturned. HN

cmsinaz on September 19, 2013 at 11:26 AM

cmsinaz:No problem,Happy Nomad,scored the fraud,overturning,thingy:)

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Can someone please explain to me why Republicans would be hesitant to subpoena Hillary? We don’t owe her anything- just as many Americans dislike as like her. It’s not like this would be the first time she’s been busted blatently lying!

BettyRuth on September 19, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Talk about UnMittigated Gall thingy:

US sequester, budget resolution 2013

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif, on debt limit: ‘Our country cannot afford another manufactured Republican crisis’ – @cspan live video

20 mins ago from http://www.c-span.org by editor

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 11:34 AM

I knew,Air-Assets were AVAILABLE,what a BOINKING CROCK!!!

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Chaffetz vs. Mullen –

Chaffetz coming off like a complete d*ck.
Sneeringly asks leading questions that he doesn’t allow Mullen to answer.
Mullen comes off as the dignified professional he is.
When he is allowed to get any words out, he obliterates the fiction Chaffetz is trying to spin.
That little exchange I just watched sums up the truth of this ‘investigation’ quite clearly.

verbaluce on September 19, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Whatever. I’m growing weary of Issa’s kabuki yield-nothing efforts.

Not that the goal isn’t worthy, but – GET SOMETHING ACCOMPLISHED FOR F*CKS SAKE.

I get an ever-growing sense that it is nothing but a dance designed to make us think they’re doing something, not really intending to accomplish anything or hold anyone accountable, but to keep us from overrunning that place the way our founders would’ve already done.

Midas on September 19, 2013 at 11:46 AM

verbaluce on September 19, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Who gave the stand down order and why?

Remember the good old days when questioning the administration and looking for answers was considered cool, back in the Dubya era, I mean? Good times, man, good good times.

Bishop on September 19, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Who gave the stand down order and why?

Bishop on September 19, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Watch the hearing for the answer to that question.

verbaluce on September 19, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Thanks Canopfor!

Just read about delay conviction overturned. HN

cmsinaz on September 19, 2013 at 11:26 AM

cmsinaz:No problem,Happy Nomad,scored the fraud,overturning,thingy:)

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Reminds me of the most handsome mugshot in history.

slickwillie2001 on September 19, 2013 at 11:54 AM

Watch the hearing for the answer to that question.

verbaluce on September 19, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Didn’t someone already tell us? We have to wait for a hearing how long after the attack to find out? Who gave the order and why?

Bishop on September 19, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Otherwise, he’d skip calling Pickering and Mullen and just focus on the CIA survivors,

There are also State Department survivors. There is the DS agent that was on the roof with Woods and Doherty who was wounded and is being treated at Walter Reed I believe. And there is also another State employee that was there that was told to keep their mouth shut about what happened. That SD person is dating someone that works with me. The person is afraid to lose their job. I said that she should contact Issa or any other congressman who is taking this fight on. I will have to press them to come forward.

Patriot Vet on September 19, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Meh.

Shrillary will dodge it with another faux migraine.

socalcon on September 19, 2013 at 12:03 PM

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Reminds me of the most handsome mugshot in history.

slickwillie2001 on September 19, 2013 at 11:54 AM

slickwillie2001:Tru Dat:)

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Didn’t someone already tell us? We have to wait for a hearing how long after the attack to find out? Who gave the order and why?

Bishop on September 19, 2013 at 11:59 AM

As testimony just showed, there was no order to ‘stand down’.
But of course that won’t stop that question ‘who gave the order to stand down?’ from being asked. Might even show up on some t-shirts and coffee mugs.

verbaluce on September 19, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Subpoena Dog Eater, ask him why he flew to Vegas the day after our embassy was sacked and 4 Americans tortured and murdered.

Bishop on September 19, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Lankford of Oklahoma and Mullen having a worthwhile back&forth.
Some actual oversight on display there for a brief moment.
Nice to know some Rs are capable of such…not to mention being respectful and allowing witnesses to answer questions.

verbaluce on September 19, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Who gave the stand down order and why?

Bishop on September 19, 2013 at 11:50 AM

It came from AFRICOM. Since Gen. Ham was in Washington at the time meeting with the President, the acting commander gave the order. There was also a Marine FAST platoon out of EUCOM that was loading a bird ready to go out of either Germany or Italy I believe, and they were told to stand-down, too. The Marine stand-down came from EUCOM. Not sure who, though. I know this because a retired CDR guy I work with sees a JAG officer who told him about it.

AS to why, they say it was because they needed the WHOLE platoon there to assist with the wounded when they landed. They could have just left their medic, with the rest of the team flying with the CIA contingent. It is total BS that they had to stay. I would have just got on the plane and left. If they wanted to Court Martial me, so be it.

Patriot Vet on September 19, 2013 at 12:10 PM

As testimony just showed, there was no order to ‘stand down’.
But of course that won’t stop that question ‘who gave the order to stand down?’ from being asked. Might even show up on some t-shirts and coffee mugs.

verbaluce on September 19, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Semantics. Who decided to not try and rescue our people, including telling the CIA team who had gone as far as chartering a private plane to cease and desist from even making the attempt.

Face it, the Nobel Peace Prize Dude and his slick sidekick abandoned 4 Americans to die, leaving behind their bloody handprints as mute testimony to their awful fates.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3CjhvqX21Gg/UHbfkQdKIrI/AAAAAAAAH2s/pITAjOazeTY/s1600/benghazibloodyhandprints.png

Bishop on September 19, 2013 at 12:13 PM

US consulate attacked in Libya

Rep. Mark Pocan, D-Wis., at Benghazi hearing: There are specific things Congress should be doing to protect embassies – live video

1 min ago by editor

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Patriot Vet on September 19, 2013 at 12:10 PM

It went to the top, those generals didn’t make the decision without consulting the Man, not on something this momentous.

So of course verba is wrong but she also has zero interest in knowing the fine details, can’t have the Dog Eating Messiah being questioned.

Bishop on September 19, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Subpoena Valerie Jarrett. Then, you’ll find out who gave the Stand Down Order.

kingsjester on September 19, 2013 at 12:21 PM

As testimony just showed, there was no order to ‘stand down’.
But of course that won’t stop that question ‘who gave the order to stand down?’ from being asked. Might even show up on some t-shirts and coffee mugs.

verbaluce on September 19, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Interestingly, there’s already been testimony that there *was* a stand-down order given. I wonder who is lying.

Midas on September 19, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Interestingly, there’s already been testimony that there *was* a stand-down order given. I wonder who is lying.

Midas on September 19, 2013 at 12:24 PM

I don’t.
Though I’d say ‘twisting the narrative to fit a rank partisan agenda’ instead of ‘lying’.

verbaluce on September 19, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Patriot Vet on September 19, 2013 at 12:10 PM

It went to the top, those generals didn’t make the decision without consulting the Man, not on something this momentous.

So of course verba is wrong but she also has zero interest in knowing the fine details, can’t have the Dog Eating Messiah being questioned.

Bishop on September 19, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Bishop, just to be clear –
it is your contention that President Barack Obama gave an order to ‘stand down’?

verbaluce on September 19, 2013 at 12:30 PM

Yup,merry-go-round!!!

canopfor on September 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM

This morning, in Issa’s mteenth Benghazi hearing, for the first time a letter from the parents of Amb. Stevens was read, along with letters from the other dead people’s loved ones.

I wonder if the parents of Stevens have had enough of oaf too? If they’d have come forward sooner the case w/b way further along. They used to be bleeding leftists from the Bay area, just like their Libya loving son.

I wonder if they are now fed up too with oaf in chief and Killary….

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 12:38 PM

it is your contention that President Barack Obama gave an order to ‘stand down’?

verbaluce on September 19, 2013 at 12:30 PM

This is a fact. obama had the goods on Petraeus. The traitor, instead of exposing obama anyway, follow his oath, he went into hiding. obama went to…well…then to sleep, then to Vegas.

Only you’re in the dark on how the military and CYA command works.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 12:40 PM

obama/Hillary have lots of blood on their hands and bodies, not only in Benghazi.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 12:41 PM

The democrats don’t want to let a little thing like 4 dead Americans get in the way of the coronation of their Queen Hillary. They know she was a completely incompetent SOS, they also know she’s got a history of lying and so what good will it do do to make her come forward again? She won’t tell the truth, it’s not her nature to do so. As we all know, the whole administration started putting together a pack of lies from the very beginning, while the attack was still happening. Bring her forward, watch her lie again. Maybe Issa will catch her in more lies the democrats won’t care about.

scalleywag on September 19, 2013 at 12:46 PM

it is your contention that President Barack Obama gave an order to ‘stand down’?

verbaluce on September 19, 2013 at 12:30 PM

This is a fact. obama had the goods on Petraeus. The traitor, instead of exposing obama anyway, follow his oath, he went into hiding. obama went to…well…then to sleep, then to Vegas.

Only you’re in the dark on how the military and CYA command works.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 12:40 PM

What?
You have a vivid one, Schad.

verbaluce on September 19, 2013 at 12:49 PM

I don’t.
Though I’d say ‘twisting the narrative to fit a rank partisan agenda’ instead of ‘lying’.

verbaluce on September 19, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Question for you:

Quite a few Americans would like to find out what “Actually”
happened at Benghazi.

There is conflicting testimony, statements, etc. spread over
half the globe at this point. You have families of those who
lost their lives that day wanting answers, but are given
nothing but a run around….

We had a “Special Procecutor” hired to spend 22 months
investigating whether a man “uttered” a woman’s name
who worked at the CIA when a Republican was in the WH.

You confront and question ANYONE here who makes a Contention.
I.E, who gave the Stand Down Order (if there was one given).

If you have no interest is ascertaining the Truth in this matter,
why do you comment on any thread dealing with Benghazi??

What exactly

ToddPA on September 19, 2013 at 12:51 PM

verbaluce on September 19, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Keep up. The rest of us are informed, awake and aware.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 12:51 PM

verbie, Amb. Stevens’ parents finally woke up. They supported your oaf in chief, in all the cover up, kept quiet for the re-elect.

This morning they had a letter read by Issa about their son. If they’d have spoken up sooner, the stupid video and other cover-up crap would not have lingered this long.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 12:53 PM

What exactly

ToddPA on September 19, 2013 at 12:51 PM

verbie likes daily punishment.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 12:54 PM

I’m not saying “The fish stinks from the head,” or anything like that,’ the aide cautioned.

Oh yes it does, and you can say it.

ToddPA on September 19, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Issa will only subpoena her IF it’s okay for her to tell the truth. And the truth starts with one question: Did you have authority over the Benghazi mission/presence? If not, who did? with her.

platypus on September 19, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Fixed it for you.

noeastern on September 19, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Hillary was the Secretary of State, whose duties included ensuring the safety of US Embassies abroad and the people who worked/lved within those Embassies/Compounds. Despite having Intel regarding potential attacks on U.S. Embassies throughout the Middle East on the anniversary of 9/11/01, 20 U.S. Embassies in the Middle East were attacked, 12 overrun. WHY were these Embassies so ill prepared?

Hillary, as Congressman Issa suggested, wants to be remembered as a highly successful and extremely competent Secretary of State, one worthy of being considered for President of the United States, and therefore she seeks to take credit for every success under her Dept. of State leadership while simultaneously attempting to separate herself from all of the failures. It is ridiculous that Hillary has not been thoroughly questioned regarding the events of 9/11/12.

For instance:

o Hillary already stated before Congress that President Obama’s foreign Policy after Kaddafi was overthrown was called ‘Low Profile’ in which the U.S. kept a very low profile, thus the name.
– Was the reason Obama wanted the U.S. to keep a low profile in Benghazi because he knew of the danger Al Qaeda posed there or was it to keep the (illegal) CIA-to-Syrian-Terrorist-Backed-Rebel Gun-Running Operation Secret?
– WHY did the State Department hire an Al Qaeda-associated militia to protect Ambassador Stevens and the Americans in Benghazi rather than provide a U.S. security detail?
– After 2 previous terrorist attacks on the Benghazi Compound why didn’t her State Dept. provide additional security?
– After the Al Qaeda-associated militia quit their job of providing protection 1 month earlier (about the same time Intel regarding possible Middle East-wide attacks on US Embassies began to surface, why didn’t her State Department either provide additional security or order Americans out of Benghazi? How much did the CIA gun-running operation influence your decision on not doing so?
– After Stevens’ many warnings and pleas for additional security why wasn’t that security given?
– Where were you throughout the nearly 10 hour Benghazi attack?
– Where was Obama throughout the entire 10 hour Benghazi attack?
– We know the WH & State Department re-wrote the CIA’s initial report 12 times….and such an action would not have been undertaken without your and Obama’s personal knowledge &/Or participation – When, where, who, and how much participation…
– You KNEW within hours that this attack was a terrorist attack, but you participated in the cover-up by also insisting initially this was over a video. WHOSE idea/plan/story was this video story, when did you 1st hear it, who convinced you to go along with it, WHY did you go along with it, especially when you knew (SHOULD have known) 19 other embassies were being / had been attacked that day?
– Who ordered the 2 ‘Stand Down’ orders to military response teams?
– Who ordered the Marines guarding the US Embassy in Cairo, 2 days prior, NOT to carry live ammo on 9/11/12 and WHY?
– WHY did the predator that responded and provide live video footage of the Benghazi attack NOT carry a missile when it was daily SOP for them to do so? Who gave the order for it NOT to carry one that day?
– Why were 20 US Embassies throughout the Middle East NOT on alert and prepared for potential attacks on the anniversary of 9/11/01?
– Did you know, as Secretary of State, that there was a huge CIA gun-running Op in Benghazi? Did that secret Op in any way impact the decision at any point to provide additional security for Ambassador Stevens OR to send or not response teams during the attack?
– Was Ambassador Stevens aware of the Op, did he have any part in over-seeing, participating in,or otherwise in this secret Op?

Hillary attempted to make the case when she debated Obama that she alone was equipped to answer that proverbial 3am phone call. She FAILED MISERABLY. On her watch the 1st US Ambassador in 30 years to be murdered in over 30 years happened, 2 other Americans were betrayed and abandoned, and 20 Embassies were attacked – 12 overrun…all on the anniversary of 9/11/01. She has questions to answer. What does it matter? Her failures cost lives and answers are needed to ensure those responsible are held accountable as well as to ensyre this never happens again.

easyt65 on September 19, 2013 at 1:57 PM

The rest of us are informed, awake and aware.

Schadenfreude on September 19, 2013 at 12:51 PM

If only.
Instead you think Obama gave an order to ‘stand down’ and this order has been kept secret since he ‘had the goods’ on Petreaus.
(Even though those ‘goods’ are now quite public.)

If you have no interest is ascertaining the Truth in this matter..

ToddPA on September 19, 2013 at 12:51 PM

No. I 100% want the truth. And I want actual lessons learned from this tragedy where good men died.
But they didn’t die to serve some partisan agenda…and that what their deaths have been exploited fot.

You and many are full of words of praise for Stevens and concern for his grieving family. I welcome that.
But here’s a sad fact – if Stevens had survived, odds are he’d be at these hearings being sneered at by Chaffetz, Godwy, etc.

verbaluce on September 19, 2013 at 3:40 PM

No. I 100% want the truth. And I want actual lessons learned from this tragedy where good men died.
But they didn’t die to serve some partisan agenda…and that what their deaths have been exploited fot.

You and many are full of words of praise for Stevens and concern for his grieving family. I welcome that.
But here’s a sad fact – if Stevens had survived, odds are he’d be at these hearings being sneered at by Chaffetz, Godwy, etc.

verbaluce on September 19, 2013 at 3:40 PM

I’ll grant you one thing.

IF Stevens had lived, and he were called to testify before Congress, and he LIED,you are right, they would be sneering
at him….so would I. Maybe, just MAYBE, these people in
Congress are getting pretty damn tired of being LIED to.

ToddPA on September 19, 2013 at 4:21 PM

They will NEVER get Hillary Clinton to admit the truth about anything. She is a corruptocrat to the core, and telling the truth would set her tongue on fire.

RebeccaH on September 20, 2013 at 11:21 AM

Muslim Brotherhood Spox For Morsi & Clinton Foundation Arrested. Wait, There’s A Whole Lot More!!!

Resist We Much on September 19, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Great collection of information.
Thought this was worth pulling out for a look:

Brotherhood agents posing as “moderate” Muslim leaders — such as now-jailed al-Qaida fundraiser Abdurahman Alamoudi — have successfully infiltrated previous administrations. But law enforcement officials say Brotherhood infiltration is more extensive and alarming under Obama.

The level of penetration in the last three administrations is deep,” former FBI special agent John Guandolo said. “For this president, it even goes back to his campaign with Muslim Brotherhood folks working with him then.’

Equally alarming, he says, the group also has placed several operatives and sympathizers within the U.S. military, further threatening national security. Guandolo says the government has ID’d hundreds of Brotherhood and Hamas fronts inside the U.S. but has shut down only a few due to political pressures.

“The Muslim Brotherhood controls about 500 organizations that are overt NGOs,” he said. “That means they’re running thousands of covert organizations we don’t know about and nobody’s monitoring.”

Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, has called for an investigation of the network and its influence on the federal government, particularly related to its support for the new Cairo regime.

AesopFan on September 20, 2013 at 1:33 PM