Starbucks CEO: Leave your guns at home from now on, please

posted at 1:21 pm on September 18, 2013 by Allahpundit

Here’s his letter about it to the company. It’s just a request, not a ban. If he made it a ban, then employees would have to enforce it. And he’s quite candid about his misgivings over putting an unarmed worker in the position of telling someone who’s packing that they’re unwelcome.

Lots of grumbling about this on Twitter this morning, which surprised me. Surely there can’t be that much overlap between fans of open carry and fans of pumpkin spice lattes. Turns out I had missed the news about “Starbucks Appreciation Day” by gun owners last month, though. This isn’t just a change in policy by some random company; this is a company that had been notably respectful of gun rights and commended for it by aficionados deciding that it was all a big mistake. No mystery as to why, either. Sonny Bunch is spot on:

What’s interesting to me is that it’s obvious Schultz has no fear of guns (nor should he; when’s the last time there was a mass-shooting at a Starbucks perpetrated by someone with an open-carry permit?). No. He fears the left. And he doesn’t fear the right.

These are all sensible positions for him to take…

The left … does the politicized life exceptionally well. They mount campaigns to pressure corporations to get what they want. They organize boycotts. They direct their complaints to gatekeepers who share their views and can influence policy. They blacklist artists with whom they disagree and pressure corporations to do the same. They control the levers of the media to add additional pressure from newspapers and television networks.

So there will be a lot of fulmination on social media from those on the right about rights and guns and the Constitution, and then a little less the next day, and a little less the day after that, until finally you forgot why you were mad at Starbucks and you stop tweeting and facebooking and kvetching and start buying pumpkin spice lattes by the bucketful and, in a moment of clarity, you’ll think about how silly it was for you to give up Starbucks in the name of something that literally never impacted you in the first place because you don’t have an open-carry permit.

Exactly. Whatever little extra business Starbucks gets from gun owners on the annual “Appreciation Day” would be washed away by the business lost once the left’s intelligentsia finally decides Something Must Be Done about the company’s tolerance for gun rights. Schultz is getting ahead of a backlash by backing down now so that he doesn’t look even weaker by backing down later after a liberal boycott takes effect. Hopefully this half-assed “request, not a ban” position will mollify them while reassuring gun owners that if they simply can’t bear to be without the pumpkin spice while they have their weapon on them, they’re welcome to come in. Unless your business is designed to be overtly conservative, staying on the left’s good side is usually in your economic interest even if it means alienating righties. Imagine how many wedding-industry professionals have learned a lesson from stories like this one to extend their services to gay couples, whether they have an objection to gay marriage or not.

Exit quotation: “There are times when I feel like America has lost its conscience.”


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It’s impossible for you to have read the comments and not learned why you were wrong for calling the open carriers jerks. It’s obvious that you are now merely trying to save face.

Yeah, you got me, the Appreciate Starbucks thing worked wonderfully, i was completely wrong.

clearbluesky on September 18, 2013 at 5:06 PM

I consider Starbucks the creepiest company on Earth. Every single store is identical. I’ve traveled extensively through Europe and Asia, and each store always has the same “quirky, unique” displays and items, every single one. Even McDonald’s will modify its menu and decor at least somewhat to meet local tastes and standards, but not Starbucks. I’ll never forget going into a Starbucks in Chang Mai, Thailand, that had the same “quirky” hand written chalkboard messages and drawings I’d seen 3 days early in NYC, even though not a single person working at the store spoke a lick of English. It’s like a pod person in corporate form.

JeremiahJohnson on September 18, 2013 at 5:17 PM

I read on Ace’s blog that apparently the “starbucks appreciation day” involved a lot of people bringing rifles into the coffee shop to try to irritate liberals and create a media scene. That’s pretty irresponsible, and a bad way to reward a company that had been generally supportive of the second amendment.

joe_doufu on September 18, 2013 at 5:18 PM

I consider Starbucks the creepiest company on Earth. Every single store is identical. I’ve traveled extensively through Europe and Asia, and each store always has the same “quirky, unique” displays and items, every single one. Even McDonald’s will modify its menu and decor at least somewhat to meet local tastes and standards, but not Starbucks.

JeremiahJohnson on September 18, 2013 at 5:17 PM

If you ever visit a country where “squat toilets” are the norm, you’ll appreciate Starbucks for this very reason. McDonalds will conform to the local fashion. If you need a real toilet, Starbucks is your only reliable friend. I never visit Starbucks in the US, because I think their coffee tastes awful and costs three times what it’s worth, but I am a regular customer when I’m abroad.

joe_doufu on September 18, 2013 at 5:22 PM

He may live to regret that. Bad guys don’t really think like this.

Akzed on September 18, 2013 at 1:30 PM
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Starbucks Shooting Gallery Coming Soon!

mankai on September 18, 2013 at 1:36 PM
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And, when there’s a tragedy during a robbery, he’ll say,

“I don’t understand. I told them to keep their guns out of here!”

kingsjester on September 18, 2013 at 1:42 PM
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“Hey, starbucks will be easier to Rob now!”

-Robbers

portlandon on September 18, 2013 at 1:50 PM
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If the CEO of Starbucks wishes his stores to be GUN FREE ZONES, that – as a privately owned (well publicly traded) business – is his right.
But, he should remember what type of individual is attracked to

G U N …. F R E E …. Z O N E S, and it is not your average law-abiding citizen who respects the rights of others.

Another Drew on September 18, 2013 at 1:56 PM

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You are all, of course, exactly right.

Someone needs to throw THIS back at him.

Would someone here tell me that I’m not the only one here who remembers this ‘highly reported’ event ?

listens2glenn on September 18, 2013 at 5:22 PM

Why people continue to overpay for bitter coffee at Starbucks is beyond me.

bw222 on September 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM

I read on Ace’s blog that apparently the “starbucks appreciation day” involved a lot of people bringing rifles into the coffee shop to try to irritate liberals and create a media scene. That’s pretty irresponsible, and a bad way to reward a company that had been generally supportive of the second amendment.

joe_doufu on September 18, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Yup

jawkneemusic on September 18, 2013 at 5:47 PM

It won’t matter to me what Starbucks or any other company says or does. I have the Second Amendment and my permit from the State of Wisconsin to conceal carry. I would NEVER open carry as it invites stupid people to notice and partake with their stupidity. I deep conceal and pray that I never have to pull the gun out of its hiding place. These “Gun Free” zones are nothing more than “Killing Zones” for the mentally ill. Look up Switzerland for the way out of this mess.

psychocyber on September 18, 2013 at 5:47 PM

If in 1960, a southern restaurant openly stated that they would serve blacks, you would call blacks jerks for appreciating/patronizing the restaurant.

blink on September 18, 2013 at 5:13 PM

So would the CEO of Starbucks apparently, we’re horrible people. One last try, you watch baseball i’m sure, when a classy player hits a homerun he puts his head down and runs around the bases at a normal pace. When a jerk player hits a homerun he stares down the pitcher and jogs as slowly as possible around the bases. What gun owners did with Starbucks was the jerk player jog.

clearbluesky on September 18, 2013 at 5:48 PM

blink on September 18, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Allright, whatever you say, have a great day.

clearbluesky on September 18, 2013 at 5:54 PM

“Gun should not be a part of the Starbucks experience.”
Who would disagree with that?
Nuts seeking out and shooting unarmed citizens can only be stopped by good guys with guns … or a very, very lucky bookkeeper with a huge set of brass balls, not to mention an angel on her shoulder.

kregg on September 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Any of you quit smoking before you started to have your coffee related issues? I can’t drink energy drinks, or really strong coffee since I quit smoking a few years ago.

DFCtomm on September 18, 2013 at 3:54 PM

I never smoked either.

Never smoked. Coffee (mainly brewed coffee) just started messing with my digestive system a few years back. But I was drinking a lot of coffee back then – very strong (stand a spoon up in it) kind of military style brewed stuff.

dentarthurdent on September 18, 2013 at 3:59 PM

I started having my coffee-related issues last year, but then again, it’s not only coffee I have digestive problems with — it’s a whole host of other foods that I used to be able to eat and enjoy regularly. It’s to the point where I am considering seeing a gastroenterologist about it, and I’ve been reading up on digestive issues appearing out of nowhere during menopause.

PatriotGal2257 on September 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM

I’ve never ever been able to drink brew coffee….too much acid.

So, I’ve drank Folgers Freeze Dried for years….with milk. :) It tastes the same and I don’t miss the brewed stuff. At least I don’t get sick to my stomach or have jitters after drinking my morning joe.

avagreen on September 18, 2013 at 3:59 PM

I just might try that. I found a sort-of coffee substitute called Pero (similar to Postum, which I don’t think is manufactured any more), which is a roasted chicory and barley instant mix which isn’t bad, either plain or with milk. I’ve gotten used to the taste, and it’s good hot, but it’s not coffee. :) Bought it at Whole Foods, which was the only place in my area who carried it.

I used to hate any kind of instant coffee with a passion, but I just might revisit trying it now.

PatriotGal2257 on September 18, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Not dumb enough to pay four bucks for coffee.

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CW on September 18, 2013 at 6:18 PM

What a boring argument blink. Time for a nap.

CW on September 18, 2013 at 6:22 PM

Legal to carry here, I will carry. If he doesn’t like it, close up and go back to Seattle. I don’t care what any nay-sayers have to say.

PJ Emeritus on September 18, 2013 at 6:26 PM

“Guns should not be part of the Starbucks experience.”

But Obamacare should?

rickv404 on September 18, 2013 at 6:32 PM

He fears the left. And he doesn’t fear the right.

This is the problem in a nutshell. Fear the Tea.

faraway on September 18, 2013 at 6:58 PM

Leave your Bibles at home from now on, please

it’s here

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/9/fox-sports-fires-craig-james-homophobic-comments/

faraway on September 18, 2013 at 7:00 PM

Coming up on the nightly news…Starbucks shops and customers victims of a nationwide robbery ring.

JetBoy on September 18, 2013 at 7:16 PM

Does this apply to Policeman as well ??
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Soorry Pinhead CEO- wouldn’t give your FiveBucks stores the time of day anyway.

FlaMurph on September 18, 2013 at 7:23 PM

I quit Starbucks about 6 months ago. I did love their coffee but I got over it. I am sick of businesses that turn political. It’s just like.. I’m here for the coffee or for the cheeseburger or whatever.. I don’t need a lecture on your political views.

And coming into your store doesn’t mean I agree with your political views but if that’s what you want to make it.. I’d rather go elsewhere. And like he said 6 months ago.. he’s ok with that. Well, so am I.

JellyToast on September 18, 2013 at 7:27 PM

Open carry permit, I was unaware of such a thing.

claudius on September 18, 2013 at 7:37 PM

The left … does the politicized life exceptionally well. They mount campaigns to pressure corporations to get what they want. They organize boycotts.

I think it depends on the company. The lefty boycott of Chik-fil-A, was a joke. That boycott attempt generated big profits for the company.

The CEO of Starbucks probably figures most of his customers are left leaning and more likely to be anti-2nd amendment. He isn’t actively pushing a gun ban agenda and if the decision were to have an adverse effect on business, he’d probably reverse the decision. I don’t believe there will be a business price to pay for this move. Most of the customers who are pro 2nd amendment probably aren’t wearing guns in to Starbucks, so they aren’t going to be too concerned about the policy.

It’s no big deal to me since I’m likely to enter a Starubcks only once or twice in a year.

Ibanez Lotus on September 18, 2013 at 7:46 PM

This is why Dunkin Donuts stock is soaring.

No politics, just make the damn coffee.

DarthBrooks on September 18, 2013 at 7:56 PM

I live in an open carry state, and I’ve seen a gun on like one guy once in all these years.

This is an easy solution to a problem that doesn’t really exist.

Allahs vulva on September 18, 2013 at 8:09 PM

I don’t give two sh**s about Starbunks anti-gun stance. I don’t like coffee, so maybe I’ll start a movement to ban coffee. After all, didn’t the hysterics try to tell us once that caffeine kills people?

RebeccaH on September 18, 2013 at 8:10 PM

I know that when I work the counter someplace and I am being held up, the first thing I always tell the perp is that guns are not allowed in this establishment.
For some reason, I’m always getting my ass kicked, not by the robber, but by my co-workers.

dverplank on September 18, 2013 at 8:15 PM

Getting old sucks, doesn’t it?
I used to drink a lot of brewed coffee, military type hardcore stuff, but I really can’t handle it anymore – for just the reasons you guys mention.
I do have a large flavored latte almost every day at work (very good non-chain coffee shop in our building on base) – I know, that’s foo-foo stuff, but the larger amount of milk seems to minimize my intestinal reactions to the coffee.

dentarthurdent on September 18, 2013 at 3:06 PM

Pack of sissies. Throw a couple of shot of rum in it. You’ll be fine.

katy the mean old lady on September 18, 2013 at 8:21 PM

Well, I pay $4 for a large latte with 3 shots of espresso and flavored syrup – mainly because of what I’ve posted earlier about how my body now objects to straight brewed coffee.
I also tip the girls at our in-house coffee shop $1, making it $5 total, because they have to go through all the extreme base security measures the rest of us endure jsut to get to work, and they do it for a much smaller wage.

What we are not admitting here is the pale true fact that in all reallity, coffee taste like crap. If it were not for cream, sugar, maple flavor or what not and most importantly Caffeine, coffee as a drink would about as populor as Non-Alcholic Scotch.

Wallythedog on September 18, 2013 at 8:26 PM

Maybe some people will take some signs from Tarjay and prop them in front of Starbucks stores.

Just a few hints on what it means to be clueless.

ajacksonian on September 18, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Since most mass shootings occur in gun free zones, maybe he thinks a mass shooting at Starbucks would be good advertising.

This is the same guy who does not want your money if you are against gay marriage.

Jasper61 on September 18, 2013 at 8:48 PM

What we are not admitting here is the pale true fact that in all reallity, coffee taste like crap. If it were not for cream, sugar, maple flavor or what not and most importantly Caffeine, coffee as a drink would about as populor as Non-Alcholic Scotch.

Wallythedog on September 18, 2013 at 8:26 PM

Actually, while I was still able to drink it, I learned to like it straight, without any milk or other adulterants. I never imagined I would. :)

PatriotGal2257 on September 18, 2013 at 9:05 PM

What we are not admitting here is the pale true fact that in all reallity, coffee taste like crap. If it were not for cream, sugar, maple flavor or what not and most importantly Caffeine, coffee as a drink would about as populor as Non-Alcholic Scotch.

Wallythedog on September 18, 2013 at 8:26 PM

You can’t be serious. properly brewed, coffee can be many different flavors, as smooth as drinking any tea, be as complex as wine, and thoroughly refreshing.

Quit buying Choc Full ‘o’ Nuts and get an estate varietal.

Murphy9 on September 18, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Maybe some people will take some signs from Tarjay and prop them in front of Starbucks stores.

Just a few hints on what it means to be clueless.

ajacksonian on September 18, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Snort! You just HAD to put that in my head. Didn’t you?

katy the mean old lady on September 18, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Looking forward to see how tis plays out in the Arizona Republic this weekend… they don’t think like us folks here in California or up in Seattle…

Khun Joe on September 18, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Never felt the need to open-carry and scare the Birkenstock set, so … who cares? And anyway, Starbucks espresso blows, but sadly, so does most espresso in the U.S. … And we’re the only people that call it “espresso”.

M240H on September 18, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Hey! Don’t knock Birkenstocks. Those are the most comfortable shoes I have ever owned. We Conservatives can wear them too, you know.

Decoski on September 18, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Ibanez Lotus on September 18, 2013 at 7:46 PM

About boycotts… if the right ever got it’s act together we could bring corporations to their knees with some real boycotts in a very short time. But we’re not unified.

And don’t tell me boycotts don’t work. The government believes in them and they threaten them all the time. And it works. You don’t do what the Feds want then they don’t give you money or cut some program. When Texas threatened to arrest TSA agents for whatever a year ago or so.. Obama threatened a boycott. No planes will land in Texas. That bill never got passed after that.

And to remind some about history… Hollywood was just as slimy in the 30′s as it is today. Nudity, homosexuality and all sorts of garbage in their movies and guess what. the churches across America signed pledges to never go to another movie until they cleaned up their act. And they did. Hollywood bowed and during the 40′s and 50′s most movies were clean. They kept those standards until the 60′s I believe.
The key to that boycott was people signed their names to a pledge. That’s a little more real than just a vague promise to not see a movie.

The person who started the lie that boycotts don’t work was probably a lib who didn’t want to be boycotted. One of those myths that goes around and is meant to keep people sitting on their couches thinking it’s hopeless.

JellyToast on September 18, 2013 at 9:53 PM

So glad he took the time to announce to all criminals that Starbucks is now a safe haven for them to carry out their crime.

jediwebdude on September 18, 2013 at 10:13 PM

There’s a Stsrbucks on the U of A campus. Gun-free zone.

You think I follow either?

wolly4321 on September 18, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Look, yahoos, carry your gun if you must, concealed. Don’t scare the rest of us with your bravado.

AshleyTKing on September 18, 2013 at 10:44 PM

I generally preferred open carry to CC carry since with open carry I knew my address could never be published in a newspaper. (everyone remembers that outrage in NY and way back in VA correct)

Since I got used to it I really don’t really see the big deal about either method of carrying now that VA has restricted the CC database from the press.

One thing that has always struck me however was the completely unjustified claim that open carry makes you a target. Even Ed has claimed that on this very site but no one has ever been able to show one incident in where this actually occurred. So I would love to see where open carry is more dangerous then CC.

That being said being able to have the best of both worlds is perfect for me now that I don’t have to worry about the press giving away my address.

Open carry in the summer when it is hot and CC in the winter when it is cold is a win win.

I figured it was a matter of time before Starbucks decided to walk back a bit as well. They as a company are free to set any policy they want yet were continuously being forced to make a stand when either the anti-gun people boycotted them or when they were buycotted in response. When all along their official position was “please leave us alone we want to follow state law”.

It was just a matter of time before this happened.

I don’t drink Starbucks coffee so it does not impact me directly, however I do not think the open carry crowd handled this whole situation as best they could.

F15Mech on September 18, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Look, yahoos, carry your gun if you must, concealed. Don’t scare the rest of us with your bravado.

AshleyTKing on September 18, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Boo!

WhatSlushfund on September 18, 2013 at 10:58 PM

What we are not admitting here is the pale true fact that in all reallity, coffee taste like crap. If it were not for cream, sugar, maple flavor or what not and most importantly Caffeine, coffee as a drink would about as populor as Non-Alcholic Scotch.

Wallythedog on September 18, 2013 at 8:26 PM

Check your palate’s ability to taste. Or your choice of coffee. Either of the two, or a combination, is an issue if you can’t taste vast differences in coffee. I don’t like Starbucks since it is over roasted to death and bitter to that end, but its not as bad as Pete’s, which is the worst, bitter (over roasted) crap only liberals in SF can love.

But buy an Italian made mocha pot and some La LLave ground coffee and let me know if you still think coffee is crap.

riddick on September 18, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Look, yahoos, carry your gun if you must, concealed. Don’t scare the rest of us with your bravado.

AshleyTKing on September 18, 2013 at 10:44 PM

There is a word for that…HOPLOPHOBIA

F15Mech on September 18, 2013 at 11:04 PM

F15Mech on September 18, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Well, maybe Mech. I grew up with an arsenal, unlocked, in the front closet. But let’s be a civil society and let people shop without fear.

AshleyTKing on September 18, 2013 at 11:11 PM

You obviously do not have a Florida CWP. My comment pertains to concealed carry only. In my opinion, open carry poses many problems and is just not worth it. They can post all the signs they want, but the signs carry absolutely zero legal weight as far as concealed carry goes. If they see a weapon, they can ask you to leave, then you do so…but if they see it that’s not concealed carry, is it?

rjh on September 18, 2013 at 2:17 PM

So the Florida CCW permit includes violation of private property? Did the state decide that no matter how many times you may be asked or warned or given notice by signage that no weapons are permitted, you get to carry and say screw you to the wishes of the property owner?

Personally, I couldn’t be for that if that were the case. They don’t want me to carry, I won’t go. But they still get to make the rules for the property they own, as a responsible citizen, one has a duty to respect private property enough to abide. Carrying concealed when it’s clearly posted that they don’t permit firearms is the same sort of disrespect as ignoring a no trespassing sign just because you’re sure you won’t be caught.

PXCharon on September 18, 2013 at 11:17 PM

blink on September 18, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Police have been assigned the task of using force to uphold the law. The citizens have a right to bear arms (take them hunting, protect your self and home). I see no need to rattle people carrying your shotgun to get a cappuccino.

AshleyTKing on September 18, 2013 at 11:31 PM

But let’s be a civil society and let people shop without fear.

AshleyTKing on September 18, 2013 at 11:11 PM

Yep that is exactly what I heard from an old Navy shipyard on Monday at 8am, 3 blocks from where I work.

I had to check on a friend on Monday did you?

Do you evertell me to “shop without fear” again you @#$%%#$T%”

F15Mech on September 18, 2013 at 11:31 PM

BTW, I meant yahoos the guys who went into Starbucks armed to the hilt for war and getting all constitutional with cops when they maybe aught to have read the local code.

Conservatives want a civil and free society. Armed. Not in your face. And not scaring the shoppers.

AshleyTKing on September 18, 2013 at 11:35 PM

Yep that is exactly what I heard from an old Navy shipyard on Monday at 8am, 3 blocks from where I work.

F15Mech on September 18, 2013 at 11:31 PM

Clinton has blood on his hands now from Ft. Hood and now this. A decent president would reverse the ban. Unarmed servicemen is insanity.

AshleyTKing on September 18, 2013 at 11:54 PM

How about “$#@! you.”?

Dunedainn on September 19, 2013 at 12:16 AM

I just might try that. I found a sort-of coffee substitute called Pero (similar to Postum, which I don’t think is manufactured any more), which is a roasted chicory and barley instant mix which isn’t bad, either plain or with milk. I’ve gotten used to the taste, and it’s good hot, but it’s not coffee. :)

- snip -

PatriotGal2257 on September 18, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Postum is back. Look at Postum (dot) com to see if there is a store local to you. If not, they sell online. (I have no idea of the prices, so far I have been able to remain true to coffee.)

Kevin K. on September 19, 2013 at 12:17 AM

Look, yahoos, carry your gun if you must, concealed. Don’t scare the rest of us with your bravado.

AshleyTKing on September 18, 2013 at 10:44 PM

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But let’s be a civil society and let people shop without fear.

AshleyTKing on September 18, 2013 at 11:11 PM

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Yep that is exactly what I heard from an old Navy shipyard on Monday at 8am, 3 blocks from where I work.

I had to check on a friend on Monday did you?

Don’t you ever tell me to “shop without fear” again you @#$%%#$T%”

F15Mech on September 18, 2013 at 11:31 PM

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Clinton has blood on his hands now from Ft. Hood and now this. A decent president would reverse the ban. Unarmed servicemen is insanity.

AshleyTKing on September 18, 2013 at 11:54 PM

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( taking a deeeeep, cleansing breathe ….. counting to a pretty large number . . . . . . . . )
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Americans who are phobic at the sight of a sidearm being worn and carried by “someone-other-than-a-law-enforcement-professional” deserve to live in FEAR. If it’s impossible for you to recover from this psycho-emotional condition, then you’re in the wrong country.

F15Mech, I took the liberty of re-editing your last line to how I believe you meant it. If I did this in error, then please correct me.

listens2glenn on September 19, 2013 at 12:18 AM

I see no need to rattle people carrying your shotgun to get a cappuccino.

AshleyTKing on September 18, 2013 at 11:31 PM

The need certainly exists, I’m not sure why you can’t see it.

blink on September 19, 2013 at 12:08 AM

I can see the need to carry a shotgun in. Mostly during hunting season or other times when there is no good way to lock the shotgun away from thieves or others who might steal and mis-use said shotgun.

Kevin K. on September 19, 2013 at 12:19 AM

Actually, if enough businesses told the left to “get lost” they wouldn’t have to try fence sitting (and if this is done too often, well, they may get splinters!). Anyway, had the banks told the O administration to “go pound sand” when they were hauled into the WH, maybe we wouldn’t have the mess we have today.

To Mr. Schultz: I do not appreciate your caving to the left. I am a gold card holder of Starbucks (you know what that means). I also have a cc license. While I’ve not carried inside Starbucks, I am seriously considering no longer fraternizing your establishment. I’m one of those customers that the regular baristas know by name and by the drinks I order. If/when I decide to take my business elsewhere, I will send you my gold card, in pieces, registered mail.

For the sake of this nation, entrepreneurs like yourself, astute businessmen, small business owners – will you PLEASE WAKE UP and quit caving to the left. They will only attack you until they no longer need you – then they will destroy you. Get your cronies together and take a stand. Won’t take long before the leftist Dems will cave. They have no spine.

MN J on September 19, 2013 at 12:20 AM

Police have been assigned the task of using force to uphold the law.

AshleyTKing on September 18, 2013 at 11:31 PM

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( E X P L E T I V E ) . . . . . . . every able-bodied adult citizen has the duty … not just a “right” … to use physical force to uphold the law.

Police are never anyone’s “first-line-of-defense”, except their own.

listens2glenn on September 19, 2013 at 12:33 AM

Get used to it. You should have already seen signs at certain businesses that say no guns allowed. I have.

That’s their right, and your right to take your business elsewhere. Enough people take their business elsewhere and you will see those signs taken down.

Moesart on September 19, 2013 at 12:49 AM

He can take his coffee drinks and shove it!
I drink my coffee black and Starbucks doesn’t do coffee they sell coffee like sweet drinks that happen to be hot.
I would not purchase anything in his stores.
There previous statements against our military (they took back under pressure) kept me from ever going there.
Get your coffee a Dunkin Donuts and be happy!!!

Delsa on September 19, 2013 at 1:05 AM

This is really not something to be upset about. It really isn’t.

pat on September 19, 2013 at 1:19 AM

It’s a good thing that he doesn’t support a ban because, gun rights aside, it’s actually unsafe for businesses to do so. Whether or not a business bans weapons will not impact the decision of people to carry, instead, people will simply lock their guns in their cars while they patronize the business. But a car is not a safe place to store a gun – unlike keeping the gun on your person (ever try to steal a gun from a police officer? lol) or in a gun cabinet or safe at home (with stronger locks and glass), car windows can be broken easily (by design, to help try to rescue people in accidents) which also makes it easy to open the trunk and steal a gun.

solatic on September 19, 2013 at 1:26 AM

I started having my coffee-related issues last year, but then again, it’s not only coffee I have digestive problems with — it’s a whole host of other foods that I used to be able to eat and enjoy regularly. It’s to the point where I am considering seeing a gastroenterologist about it, and I’ve been reading up on digestive issues appearing out of nowhere during menopause.

PatriotGal2257 on September 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM

I don’t know you or your diet, and I’m not pretending to be a doctor, but the most common factor in age-related or menopausal onset of digestive issues is too much fried foods and too much salt. I drink easily a full pot of coffee per day (often the last cup well after 10PM), and have no problems. We eat a fair amount of spicy foods (kung pao, thai, fajitas, etc.), but anything fried is in EVOO, as little of it as possible. Fish (usually salmon or cod) at least once a week, minimal dairy and sugar.

Freelancer on September 19, 2013 at 1:35 AM

Dunkin Donuts and Tim Horton’s for me.
I’ve carried handguns, shotguns and rifles there without any problem.
Granted, I use the drive thru and keep the guns in the trunk, but still.
In fact, I’ll be going through one of them on the way to the range with my daughter today.
Today is S&W 686 P/Ruger Mark III day.

justltl on September 19, 2013 at 2:01 AM

Dunkin Donuts and Tim Horton’s for me.
I’ve carried handguns, shotguns and rifles there without any problem.
Granted, I use the drive thru and keep the guns in the trunk, but still.
In fact, I’ll be going through one of them on the way to the range with my daughter today.
Today is S&W 686 P/Ruger Mark III day.

justltl on September 19, 2013 at 2:01 AM

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Okay, but I heard tell from a ‘good authority’ further back up the thread, that you probably FRIGHTENED and SCARED several other customers.
Don’t you feel any shame, guilt, and condemnation for this?

Yeah, me neither … : )

listens2glenn on September 19, 2013 at 2:17 AM

So… Robbing a starbucks is apparently getting safer.

Is that part of the starbucks experience?

Karmashock on September 19, 2013 at 4:09 AM

Pack of sissies. …
katy the mean old lady on September 18, 2013 at 8:21 PM

This thread has devolved into how real coffee gives old folks the squirts…

Who knew Starbucks candy lattes helped them cork it off..?? !

Lots of free medical advice here though.. lol

BigSven on September 19, 2013 at 4:54 AM

Leaving aside that open carry is tactically foolish, this article is dead on. http://practicaltacticalpodcast.com/starbucks/

FiveG on September 19, 2013 at 6:55 AM

Starbucks CEO: Leave your guns at home from now on, please

Stop producing bad coffee, please.

TerryW on September 19, 2013 at 8:08 AM

This idiot wants you to spend money in his stores AND tell you what is acceptable under HIS terms. Show this idiot that the 2nd Amendment has priority over his liberal viewpoint. Give up Starbucks coffee. Its too overpriced anyway!!

karlinsync on September 19, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Here gun owners had a company that respected their rights and instead of just thanking them they decided to flaunt it and really act like jerks about it, they have no one to blame but themselves.

clearbluesky on September 18, 2013 at 1:39 PM

How did they act like jerks about it? How is it jerky to express appreciation publicly?

blink on September 18, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should. Femme progs can dress up in vajayjay outfits and screech. Does this behavior endear people to their cause or turn people away? It’s just not appropriate behavior – wrong time, wrong place.

Buy Danish on September 19, 2013 at 10:13 AM

I am a coffee drinker. I drink coffee every day, several cups. I have restaurants I prefer over others specifically because of their coffee. Due to that, and because Starbucks coffee shops are under every rock, I have given it the old college try to find some style of coffee there that doesn’t taste like burnt motor oil. No luck. To me, someone actually claiming to like Starbucks coffee is akin to someone claiming to like a skunky, over-hopped beer or wine that tastes like it is half-and-half with Angostura bitters – just an affectation. Do yourself a favor, if you just have to look all yuppie walking around, save a Starbucks cup and fill it with gas-station coffee that is made in a well-maintained Bunn machine. That will be plenty good enough, cost a 10th of a Starbucks, and, now, stick it to these progs on their bottom-line.

Knott Buyinit on September 19, 2013 at 10:38 AM

I do not think SB is a gun free zone, is it? I can walk in with my conceal carry ,,,,they just do not want open carry if if it is legal in the state. I prefer conceal carry,,the bad guy has no idea who or where the gun is as opposed to open carry,,,you may be the first target of a crazy.

retiredeagle on September 19, 2013 at 11:19 AM

I always thought SB tasted like battery acid anyway[and no, I never drank battery acid but I do have a pretty good idea of what it might taste like,,,great imagination].

retiredeagle on September 19, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Wonder what the bottom-line on Starbucks’ quarterly earnings will soon be showing …

stukinIL4now on September 19, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Dunkin Donuts for me and the Boston Red Sox

retiredeagle on September 19, 2013 at 11:49 AM

I always thought SB tasted like battery acid anyway[and no, I never drank battery acid but I do have a pretty good idea of what it might taste like,,,great imagination].

retiredeagle on September 19, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Took my Dad to a local SB-like shop years ago. He was used to Dunkin Donuts type coffee – so he ordered a cup of whatever was closest to a regular DD type coffee. When he got it he filled it with cream and sugar and on the way out the door he took a taste – and promptly dropped the whole thing in the trash barrel, saying “that crap tastes like burnt tree bark”.

dentarthurdent on September 19, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Dunkin Donuts for me and the Boston Red Sox

retiredeagle on September 19, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Yup – see my post above.
My Dad lived, and died, drinking New England DD and McDonalds coffee.

dentarthurdent on September 19, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Starbucks CEO: Leave your guns at home from now on, please

Ok, but when I do, my wallet and behind will be at home too.

rukiddingme on September 19, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Starbucks has peaked. Their coffee is revolting, as is their food.

Considering this, the CEO’s views on gun-control are not important.

virgo on September 20, 2013 at 3:24 AM

Gun rights are civil rights.

Leave your black friends outside, please.

Same difference.

rasqual on September 20, 2013 at 3:30 AM

As a 5 day a week Starbucks coffee drinker…
-Starbucks as a private business has the right to ask this of their customers.
-Just like I have the right to go to any other coffee shop.

When my Starbucks card bottoms out, I’ll happily throw it away.

$5 x 5days x 52 weeks= $1300 for the year.

Imagine if 5 Million gun owners joined me…
Starbucks would lose $6.5 Billion. That’s 1/2 of their total gross sales.

How many you want to join me in teaching strabucks a lesson against punishing law abiding citizens?

SFTech on September 20, 2013 at 6:31 AM

I will assiduously keep my firearms and money away from your stores no matter how much I want over-roasted, over-priced coffee.

Akzed on September 20, 2013 at 9:39 AM

Expect the next mass shooting to be in a “gun-free” Starbucks.

RebeccaH on September 20, 2013 at 1:00 PM

I am thinking that StarBucks should not be a part of your or my experience. It never was mine excet once in n airport an I felt I had been robbed and at that time I realized the what * BUCKS meant. Big BUCKS for them and ust some strong coffe for me. If you have not learned that you do not have to go to StarBucks to get a good cup of coffee, then maybe you deserve a doubleshot.

j bo on September 20, 2013 at 2:23 PM

What other of your constitutional rights do they decide they do not welcome. What if they decide to say people of color are not welcome or people of a certain nationality are not welcome or wht if they monitor your conversation and restrict what you can or cannot say?

j bo on September 20, 2013 at 2:25 PM

They allow you free wifi to go there and spend all day on your laptop watching porn, but you cannot carry heat, except the heat you might be in while viewing porn.

j bo on September 20, 2013 at 2:27 PM

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