Bill Clinton on the U.S.-Russia plan for Syria: “Who cares” whose idea it was?

posted at 6:01 pm on September 17, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via Politico, between this and Hillary’s infamous line to Congress about Benghazi, they’re developing a nifty theme for the next presidential cycle. “Clinton 2016: What difference, at this point, does it make?”

Not surprisingly, BC’s memory of what John Kerry said is selective. Clinton’s version: “John Kerry got asked, ‘Well, what can we do to stop you from bombing,’ and he said, ‘Make the problem go away.’” Is that right? He said a little more than that:

[QUESTION:] is there anything at this point that [Assad's] government could do or offer that would stop an attack?

SECRETARY KERRY: Sure. He could turn over every single bit of his chemical weapons to the international community in the next week. Turn it over, all of it, without delay, and allow a full and total accounting for that. But he isn’t about to do it, and it can’t be done, obviously.

Obviously. From a logistics standpoint alone, protecting UN weapons inspectors from Syria’s combatants — the Syrian army, Iranian troops, Hezbollah, and a motley crew of rebels, jihadist and otherwise — in the middle of a war would be impossible. Morally, the idea of treating a monster like Assad as an honest broker on disarmament would be ridiculous, not least because Obama’s called repeatedly for him to go. Disarmament means keeping him in place as ruler of Syria to ensure the regime’s cooperation in the process, which could take years. We’d be moving from “regime change” to “regime recognition” overnight, which is the opposite of a “red line.” Assad would have gained, not lost, something by using poison gas. And on top of it all, we’d be elevating Russia, of all countries, to the role of major Middle Eastern player that it used to occupy by trusting them to guarantee Assad’s compliance. Obviously it can’t be done. Obviously. And yet here we are.

Honestly, I’m surprised that Clinton didn’t seize this as an opportunity to gently distance Hillary from the shambles of O’s Syria policy. Maybe he can’t tell whether the political winds are likely to be blowing hawkish or dovish in two years and figures that the safest place for the Clintons right now is hiding behind Obama and Biden and their sham Syria “deal.” If it somehow works out, at least well enough for the White House to claim publicly that Assad has significantly disarmed, then Hillary can say she was for it. If it doesn’t work out, the Clintons will focus on U.S. oversight of the disarmament process and claim that Hillary would have done a better job with it, would have made a more believable show of force against Assad to get him to cooperate, etc. Right now, I think, they’re betting that the left is likely to lurch hard towards the anti-war position in 2016 as a reaction to having looked the other way for eight years at Hopenchange hawkishness. Hillary will stay as dovish as she can for as long as she can so as not to antagonize them before shifting back towards hawkishness to reassure undecideds that, yes, a woman commander-in-chief can be as tough as a man.


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Circus.

CW on September 17, 2013 at 6:05 PM

“What difference does it make?”

Schadenfreude on September 17, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Did anyone ask him how it feels to be responsible for another mass shooting at another military facility?

txhsmom on September 17, 2013 at 6:06 PM

“Who cares” whose idea it was

Barack and Michelle Obama
J.F. Kerry
Axelrod
Biden
MSN, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, etc….

BobMbx on September 17, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Stupidity has engulfed the land.

She is truly NO longer exceptional.

The land has be snatched.

Schadenfreude on September 17, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Billy Bob has VERY selective memory. And he can remember things that never happened!

GarandFan on September 17, 2013 at 6:07 PM

I agree ,it’s an un-workable train wreck of an idea…Who cares who came up with the “plan?”

sandee on September 17, 2013 at 6:07 PM

The land has been snatched.

Schadenfreude on September 17, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Letting Russia and Syria work things out is like sending Bonnie and Clyde to mediation for marital issues.

Paul-Cincy on September 17, 2013 at 6:07 PM

I bet obozo kept his blue dress too.

Flange on September 17, 2013 at 6:08 PM

This says it all.

It now represents the USA.

Schadenfreude on September 17, 2013 at 6:08 PM

And by the way why can’t he fade away into the woodwork like Bush? Enough is enough!

sandee on September 17, 2013 at 6:09 PM

In preparation for complete failure of the plan, the left two steps their way through the blame game. First: “Hooray! Obama managed to remove all chemical weapons from the earth without firing a shot.” Followed by: “No? Still weapons there? Hey, wasn’t our idea.”

BKeyser on September 17, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Hey, Bill – raped anyone lately?

Pork-Chop on September 17, 2013 at 6:09 PM

I care – the oaf in chief is wasting your taxes to support terrorists.

Billie should care too. Hillary has blood all over her big ugly body, just like does obama.

Schadenfreude on September 17, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Yet he gets to keep his bio weapons.

Stupid Power.

Bishop on September 17, 2013 at 6:11 PM

BKeyser on September 17, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Just posted yer photoshop for the ages. It’s superb.

Schadenfreude on September 17, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Bishop, go to the bottom of the Scarborough/Mika thread. thelostfulkerland insulted you there.

Schadenfreude on September 17, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Impeached, disbarred, serial rapist, adulterer, liar, perjured, midnight basketball, z-chip, school uniforms, sold missile tech to China for campaign donations.

My favorite Democrat.

Murphy9 on September 17, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Who cares who’s splooge is on the interns dress.

Who cares if the whole world including my wife and daughter know that I shoved cigars into the never-regions of chubby interns and smoked em.

Who cares, Bill?

patman77 on September 17, 2013 at 6:12 PM

I care – the oaf in chief is wasting your taxes to support terrorists.

Billie should care too. Hillary has blood all over her big ugly body, just like does obama.

Schadenfreude on September 17, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Been doing that by way of Libya for awhile now…. See:Benghazi…

sandee on September 17, 2013 at 6:13 PM

I’m sorry, Bill. Since “was” is the past tense of “is” we’ll need you to define it before we can continue.

trubble on September 17, 2013 at 6:13 PM

From the mouth of someone who has never been held accountable for anything.

AmericanUnderground on September 17, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Billie, just for you…your scumhag, yes, that Hillary, and obama…”Assad must go”…just a reminder ‘genius’.

Schadenfreude on September 17, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Obama’s not being criticized over whose idea it was – he is being criticized because its a terrible idea.

Rich H on September 17, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Been doing that by way of Libya for awhile now…. See:Benghazi…

sandee on September 17, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Been telling y’all about Benghazi since the day it happened.

Schadenfreude on September 17, 2013 at 6:14 PM

“Who cares” whose idea it was

sez the guy that takes credit for reforming welfare and balancing the budget after vetoing it twice and having to sign it kicking and screaming

DanMan on September 17, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Si se Putin (h/t TXUS) – Putin has the goods on obama and Hillary, via Snowden.

Schadenfreude on September 17, 2013 at 6:15 PM

My favorite Democrat.

Murphy9 on September 17, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Pardoned Marc Rich.

Schadenfreude on September 17, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Billie, obama’s azz ain’t worth saving. He and Mooch will Never, Never, Never support Hillary. Don’t be fooled, idiot.

Schadenfreude on September 17, 2013 at 6:16 PM

I’ll never understand why this libertine reprobate is lauded so much by the left.

Murphy9 on September 17, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Yes – Hill and Bill, the both of them… worthless pieces of “caring”..

fabrexe on September 17, 2013 at 6:19 PM

This administration, and all it’s “hangers on”, appear to merely be Alfred E. Newman clones.

“What? Me Worry?”

So tell me, is that any way to run a country?

socalcon on September 17, 2013 at 6:20 PM

Schadenfreude on September 17, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Thanks. It got a lot of play yesterday. Twitchy got the ball rolling yesterday morning. The Blaze, here -in The Greenroom, Doug Ross, along with Twitter and Facebook and a host of links in the comment sections of a number of blogs. I was stunned.

And humbled.

BKeyser on September 17, 2013 at 6:22 PM

Ugh! Why can’t this sexual deviant just go away?

OmahaConservative on September 17, 2013 at 6:22 PM

Because one has to wonder why Hillary didn’t have the idea when she was SOS….
oh, yeah, the video….Benghazi…Muslim Brotherhood…Hillary

albill on September 17, 2013 at 6:23 PM

It seems to me Bill Clinton was always worried about who got the credit for balancing the budget.

(Hint: Newt Gingrich & the Republican controlled congress)

portlandon on September 17, 2013 at 6:24 PM

“Clinton 2016: What difference, at this point, does it make?”

excellent bumper sticker Allah

cmsinaz on September 17, 2013 at 6:30 PM

sandee on September 17, 2013 at 6:09 PM

bubba will be out in full force for her campaign…he ain’t done yet

cmsinaz on September 17, 2013 at 6:31 PM

And, Now We Dither…

By DiploMad

In a key scene in “Breaking Bad,” the best TV show ever made, conscience-stricken ex-drug dealer Jesse Pinkman finds himself detained by two DEA agents who try to convince him to turn on his former partner, the infamous meth dealer Heisenberg, aka Walter White. Aware that Heisenberg/White is a ruthless, calculating sort out to win, Pinkman warns the two DEA men that Heisenberg/White is smarter than they: after all, they are just “two guys,” Heisenberg/White “is the devil.” In any plan the two agents make to bring down “the devil,” well, Jesse warns, “The reverse opposite will happen!”

That wonderful scene came to mind on hearing that John “Botox” Kerry had flown to Geneva to meet Putin’s Foreign Minister, Sergei “No Laugh” Lavrov. I know Lavrov–one day I will write how, it’s funny–and Kerry is no match for him. Kerry, a supercilious dope, who wanted the SecState job as confirmation of his status as a celebrity deep thinker, will find Lavrov a humorless, extremely intelligent, worldly, intensely patriotic Russian nationalist with a deep envy of and resentment for the United States and the West. He holds the classic Russian view that the world, lead by the insufferably arrogant Americans, conspires against Russia to deny it the respect and status it deserves.

Lavrov, a professional who speaks several languages, and works non-stop, sees his life’s mission as restoring Russia’s rightful place in the upper echelons of the world’s hierarchy.

And Kerry? As a callow youth he engaged in treason against the United States. Over time, he became a classic airhead liberal blow-hard, who used his “charms” to marry into money.

He found in the Democratic party and Massachusetts an electorate that votes for rich airheads, and doesn’t care if they have a treasonous past.

Kerry has no discernible view on the world, and certainly has none of the drive to see his country come out ahead that we see in Lavrov.

Foreign Minister Lavrov has laser-like concentration, does not speak carelessly–measuring his statements very carefully–and, therefore, is the “reverse opposite” of the goofy, gaffe-prone, lazy, unfocused, and shallow Kerry.

To confirm that things must not be going well for John “Xmas in Cambodia” Kerry, we see a press account which reports that Kerry has had to emphasize that the negotiations over Syria are “no game.” It is, indeed, a sad day when the US Secretary of State has to plead to be taken seriously. But, my friends, what else could this disaster of a SecState expect?

What about the Obama/Clinton/Kerry “policy” re Syria should be taken seriously? Not much–except that Obama and his two hapless Secretaries of States haven’t a clue about how the world works, how to project American power and defend American interests. Putin certainly has realized that.

All this negotiation, and back-and-forth should have happened months ago, maybe two years ago when the Syrian crisis was beginning to boil and the consequences of Obama’s “Arab Spring” were becoming painfully obvious. Instead, of course, the “reverse opposite” has happened.

Obama, after months of dithering, presents his muddled end game, a plan for an “unbelievably” small military action of limited scope and duration that has no intention of hurting seriously the Assad regime, a regime Obama labeled as posing a threat to core American interests. Makes no sense. None of it.

So now we have Obama and Kerry chasing after the Russians, who are masters at playing games, to help Obama and Kerry get out of the box they have built. Make no doubt, Lavrov will seek to humble Kerry in ways big and small, much as his boss is humbling Obama in ways big and small. We have, for example, Putin “writing”(I bet Lavrov is the author) an op-ed in the New York Times lecturing the United States on the need to show humility and to stop being so warlike.

It appears that Vladimir Putin, as I stated in a Tweet earlier in the day, seeks to take the position once held by Walter Duranty at the NYT : that special slot reserved for overt members of the NKVD/KGB.

We dither as Russia, a country several orders of magnitude weaker than the United States, reestablishes its influence in the region; boldly announces it is helping Iran re-arm and strengthen its nuclear program; and kicks sand in the face of 98-pound weakling Obama on the Snowden affair.

Obama, meanwhile, gives vacuous speeches and seeks desperately to have the Syria disaster go away. He doesn’t even want Congress to vote on giving him the power to strike militarily–a power which he previously claimed he had by right of being President.

The CIA, meanwhile, arms the “moderates” (oh, please) in the Syrian resistance in another half-baked program which gets us the opprobrium for intervening in somebody else’s civil war, without any benefits for America, or even an end-plan.
Obama built it. We all are paying for it–and the final bill has not yet arrived.

Continue reading: Now, We Dither…

Resist We Much on September 17, 2013 at 6:31 PM

Do the Clintons actually care about anything?

redware on September 17, 2013 at 6:32 PM

Did anyone ask him how it feels to be responsible for another mass shooting at another military facility?

txhsmom on September 17, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Indeed! We need a discussion of the body count that has resulted from his grand ‘gun free zone’ policy.

jffree1 on September 17, 2013 at 6:33 PM

It would be funny if it weren’t so dangerous that these are the miscreants tasked with defending the nation. As if Syria is going to give up the weapon Russia have to them in the first place.

jawkneemusic on September 17, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Do the Clintons actually care about anything?

redware on September 17, 2013 at 6:32 PM

Themselves.

Murphy9 on September 17, 2013 at 6:36 PM

Bishop, go to the bottom of the Scarborough/Mika thread. thelostfulkerland insulted you there.

Schadenfreude on September 17, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Thanks, though honestly the attempt was sub-par on her part, I think a 5 year old could do better.

Bishop on September 17, 2013 at 6:36 PM

Idiot. He’s just the other half of the “what difference does it make/who cares” twins. Damn liberal fools.

rplat on September 17, 2013 at 6:36 PM

I’ll never understand why this libertine reprobate is lauded so much by the left.

Murphy9 on September 17, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Because he got away with being a stone-cold criminal douchebag, it gives the left hope that they can someday take it far further.

Bishop on September 17, 2013 at 6:38 PM

SECRETARY KERRY: Sure. He could turn over every single bit of his chemical weapons to the international community in the next week. Turn it over, all of it, without delay, and allow a full and total accounting for that. But he isn’t about to do it, and it can’t be done, obviously.

If it can’t be done … “obviously”, then why even bother proposing it? This is what passes for a diplomat, these days. Kerry should have just stuck with the Overcharged button.

Peregruzka!!

I’m going to press this … and you all know what happened in those commercials we ripped this off of … well, since this Overcharged button is real, it’s going to be even more dramatic, though we all know that this is impossible, obviously … but I’m goping to hit it, anyway. Stand back, peons!!” — SecState Incitatus

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 17, 2013 at 6:43 PM

…they don’t call him B J…for nothing!

KOOLAID2 on September 17, 2013 at 6:46 PM

“Clinton 2016: What difference, at this point, does it make?”

Every Dem hopeful is going to run on this theme. Because not one of these criminally corrupt bastards can run on the record of the lazy stupid Obama. Killary is going to have to come up with a good excuse for her failures as SecState and Biden is going have to convince the public he was in a complete “walking coma” for eight years (might explain some of the gaffes).

But seriously, what Demonrat is going to run on the idea we need to do more of the same.

Happy Nomad on September 17, 2013 at 6:47 PM

We need to defund The Office of the First Lady. Just sayin’…

Fallon on September 17, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Bill Clinton on the U.S.-Russia plan for Syria: “Who cares” whose idea it was?

Bill doesn’t care unless he or Hillary can claim credit, only then will it matter.

RJL on September 17, 2013 at 6:56 PM

I’ve got your who cares, Billy, who cares what you have to say about anything? What would it take for us to have our own little regime change right here in the US? NO MORE CLINTONS! For the love of God, make them go away! They’re the last thing this country will ever need.

scalleywag on September 17, 2013 at 7:17 PM

Putin has the goods on obama and Hillary, via Snowden.

Schadenfreude on September 17, 2013 at 6:15 PM

And a whole boat load of other people, and I’m sure many on our side as well. Yep, Si se Putin!!!

TXUS on September 17, 2013 at 7:22 PM

I’ve got your who cares, Billy, who cares what you have to say about anything? What would it take for us to have our own little regime change right here in the US? NO MORE CLINTONS! For the love of God, make them go away! They’re the last thing this country will ever need.

scalleywag on September 17, 2013 at 7:17 PM

Don’t want to ruin your evening, but if you think the Clintons are bad post-presidency, wait until you see the next act. We’ll be dealing with Putin’s b!tch and the Mooch for the rest of our earthly lives.

TXUS on September 17, 2013 at 7:30 PM

TXUS on September 17, 2013 at 7:30 PM

There ought to be a law to protect the citizens from too many years of rule from one monarch, whether it be the wife or the husband. Haven’t we been subjects of one Clinton or another long enough? The trouble is, the left can’t get enough of those two losers, despite their lies and corruption and incompetence. And when they’re finally gone they’ll want to coronate Chelsea!

scalleywag on September 17, 2013 at 7:36 PM

Pathetic. Go back to your extracurricular activities (hint, hint), Mr. President.

Richard Romano on September 17, 2013 at 7:39 PM

So, the Clinton Doctrine boils down to, “at this point, what possible difference does it make?”, or some derivative thereof?

Midas on September 17, 2013 at 7:53 PM

Don’t want to ruin your evening, but if you think the Clintons are bad post-presidency, wait until you see the next act. We’ll be dealing with Putin’s b!tch and the Mooch for the rest of our earthly lives.

TXUS on September 17, 2013 at 7:30 PM

He wants to be the Caliph of the 57-state muzlim federation.

slickwillie2001 on September 17, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Henry Kissinger looks better than Billy Jeff.

Qzsusy on September 17, 2013 at 9:21 PM

It looks like the Clinton mantra is “What difference does it make” and “Who cares”. Smartest people in the world huh? Sounds like two old burned out pols who hate everybody and don’t give a flying f**k about anything.

inspectorudy on September 18, 2013 at 12:53 AM

“What difference at this point does it make?”

That albatross looks lovely on you, Mrs. Clinton.

TimBuk3 on September 18, 2013 at 9:32 AM

Clinton sent missle tech to the Red Chinese. The Red Chinese forwarded it to the North Koreans. The nuclear armed North Koreans are using it to build missles to hit the US while forwarding it to Iran. Iran is building missles to hit Israel.

With ALL of the axis of evil arming up with nuclear missles, what difference, at this point, does it make if Assad has a little gas?

Freddy on September 18, 2013 at 3:19 PM