Two new polls show ObamaCare as unpopular as ever

posted at 10:01 am on September 16, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

The start date for compliance with the individual mandate in ObamaCare is two weeks from tomorrow, and four in ten uninsured Americans still don’t know that the law requires them to buy a plan.  Even among those in the know — or perhaps especially among the informed — the Affordable Care Act remains unpopular, and opposition is deepening in two new polls released today.  The NBC/WSJ poll puts opposition in the plurality, but the trend lines are not improving for the White House:

A large number of Americans continue to adamantly oppose the nation’s new health-care law and believe it will produce damaging results, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

Forty-four percent of respondents call the health-care law a bad idea, while 31 percent believe it’s a good idea — virtually unchanged from July’s NBC/WSJ survey.

By a 45 percent to 23 percent margin, Americans say it will have a negative impact on the country’s health-care system rather than a positive one.

And that’s the good news today for the Obama administration in ACA polling.  A new poll from USA Today/Pew shows a majority in opposition … a growing majority. Not only do a majority oppose the bill, a narrow plurality now trusts Republicans more than Democrats on health-care policy for the first time in more than 20 years of Pew polling:

Opposition hits new highs: 53% disapprove of the health care law, the highest level since it was signed; 42% approve. By an even wider margin, intensity favors the opposition; 41% of those surveyed strongly disapprove while just 26% strongly approve. Fifty-three percent disapprove of Obama’s handling of health care policy, an historic high. And Democrats have lost their traditional advantage on the issue. For the first time in polling that stretches back more than two decades, Americans narrowly prefer Republicans in dealing with health care policy, 40%-39%.

A boost in approval for the law that followed the Supreme Court decision in July 2012 upholding most of its provisions, to 47% approve-43% disapprove, has disappeared.

Confusion continues: Only one in four say they understand the law’s impact on them and their families well while one-third say they have little or no understanding about how the law will work. Despite increasing education efforts by the administration, advocacy groups and some states, the percentage of Americans who don’t understand the law has declined only modestly, to 34% from 44%, since it was passed.

Expectations are downbeat: Most haven’t seen much impact from the law, but they are inclined to expect bad news down the road. Forty-one percent predict in coming years the effect on themselves and their families will be negative; just 25% think it will be positive. Even more, 47%, say the law will have a negative impact on the country as a whole; 35% expect a positive impact.

Even among those most likely to be boosted by ObamaCare — the uninsured — only a narrow plurality approves, 49/46.  And even among those, they’re slightly more inclined to think the consequences of ObamaCare will be mostly negative (33%) than mostly positive (32%).  Only 26% of the uninsured will seek coverage because of the law, although another 33% were planning on buying a plan anyway.  Nearly a third won’t buy coverage regardless of the law.

McClatchy has more news relating to the intended beneficiaries of ObamaCare, and it’s not good either:

Jennifer Webb works the deli counter at Publix supermarket and has thyroid problems. Her boyfriend, William May, is an artist recovering from colon cancer.

The couple has relied on a county program that provides health coverage to the working poor. But their “security blanket,” as Webb calls the Alachua County CHOICES program, is being taken away at the end of December. As new coverage provisions take effect Jan. 1 under the Affordable Care Act, the new health care law, local programs that offered barebones care to the uninsured are in flux – and with them, the lives of thousands who depend on them.

A few programs, like CHOICES and HealthShare in northern Minnesota, are shutting down. Others, such as the Appalachian Healthcare Project in Boone, N.C., and Vita Health in Palm Beach County, Fla., are scaling back the number of people they cover. Programs in Lansing, Mich., and Houston are continuing at least for now, but their future is uncertain.

As a result, many enrollees are unsure about how – or even if – they will be able to get coverage next year and what it will cost. …

As a result, almost two-thirds of CHOICES’ enrollees will have no coverage because they earn less than the poverty level, but still too much to qualify for Medicaid. The law provides sliding scale subsidies to help people buy private insurance only if they make between 100 percent and 400 percent of the poverty level, or between $11,500 and $46,000 for an individual. Caught in the middle, they have little recourse.

The ACA pushed states to expand Medicaid by agreeing to cover the additional cost for the first few years of the program, but many states balked at the long-term costs of that expansion.  That leaves these families in poverty out in the cold, starting next January.

Update: Via Gabriel Malor, make that three:

Most voters still don’t like the national health care law and expect it to increase, not reduce, health care costs.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 43% of Likely U.S. Voters share at least a somewhat favorable opinion of the health care law, but 53% view it unfavorably. As has been the case since the law’s passage by Congress in March 2010,  the passion remains on the side of its opponents: The new findings include 18% with a Very Favorable opinion of the law, but more than twice as many (38%) view it Very Unfavorably. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

While supporters of the law promised that it would help reduce health care costs, 54% of voters think it will make costs go up instead. Just 22% expect the law to reduce costs, while 15% predict that costs will stay about the same.


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Washington doesn’t care how unpopular it is, as long as it doesn’t lead to open revolt.

Aitch748 on September 16, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Doesn’t matter.

Unless the GOP takes the WH, a LOT of seats in the Senate and House, it’s not going anywhere.

Good Lt on September 16, 2013 at 10:05 AM

It’s. The. Law.

So eat your peas, serf.

Bishop on September 16, 2013 at 10:06 AM

Hey,but it’s the law of the land,remember.

docflash on September 16, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Obamacare for thee but not for me
Congress

Epic fail with the lsm head in the sand

cmsinaz on September 16, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Fall. No I don’t mean the season either. ; )

Bmore on September 16, 2013 at 10:09 AM

Thanks again, Roberts. We missed our chance on this one. It’s all posturing at this point.

As Yoda Hillary would say, “No difference will it make.”

happytobehere on September 16, 2013 at 10:11 AM

Yet somehow, Republican attempts to defund this disaster are political suicide. Hmmmm.

Kafir on September 16, 2013 at 10:15 AM

Congressional politicians, usually so poll driven in their “beliefs”, persist in defending (in Washington, inaction amounts to the same thing as an active defense) ObamaCare. Why?

Why do Republicans defend it? No explanation should even be necessary: Congressional GOP’ers should be lining up to defund it without question. This thing hurts America and, by extension, it hurts Republicans who don’t actively work to kill it.

Why do House Democrats? Usually, House members who face re-election every two years would reliably be opposed to a program so manifestly unpopular. And yet, House Democrats still say they would vote again for ObamaCare.

I honestly do not understand why any politician would not be active in dismantling such a disaster.

MTF on September 16, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Obamadoesntcare.

fogw on September 16, 2013 at 10:19 AM

The real problem is that Republicans learn all the wrong lessons.

In 2010 they Promised that they had, “Learned their lesson.”

But what lesson?

The Lesson of 1995!

Unfortunately, the lesson they needed to learn was “Read My Lips.”

jaydee_007 on September 16, 2013 at 10:20 AM

Wife just got the email at work outlining the new/updated procedures for Obamacare.

Apparently they (hospitalists, internal medicine docs) are not to spend more than 15 minutes per patient visit and cannot diagnose/treat any symptoms that were not reported when the appointment was originally made. A new appointment must be setup in order to be treated for that complaint.

This is for a large healthcare system that operates in sunny Florida.

Defenestratus on September 16, 2013 at 10:21 AM

“Now is not the time to fight!” – John Boehner, Eric Cantor, and the rest of the surrender caucus.

I hate the Left because of who they are but at least they fight. I hate the GOP because they refuse to fight.

What’s worse?

Charlemagne on September 16, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Defenestratus on September 16, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Physicians that switch to concierge service will start making a killing. Wonder how the Stasi IRS will shut them down.

Charlemagne on September 16, 2013 at 10:26 AM

Excellent news…

mnjg on September 16, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Dear America: SHUT UP AND EAT YOUR DAMN PEAS!!!

-President Kick-Ass.

BigWyo on September 16, 2013 at 10:27 AM

I have this feeling that Republicans are not doing anything to stop Obozocare for a reason. They want the stuff to go into effect for the 2014 election, hoping they will pick up more seats if they just leave it alone and let it run up the cost of everyone’s health insurance. Just a thought and it’s probably not true, but one can hope.

Johnnyreb on September 16, 2013 at 10:28 AM

The couple has relied on a county program that provides health coverage to the working poor. But their “security blanket,” as Webb calls the Alachua County CHOICES program, is being taken away at the end of December.

So conservatives are supposed to be angry because wasteful government programs are being phased out because individuals now have to buy their own insurance? O.K., got it.

The ACA pushed states to expand Medicaid by agreeing to cover the additional cost for the first few years of the program, but many states balked at the long-term costs of that expansion. That leaves these families in poverty out in the cold, starting next January.

I believe the correct wording is “many Republican states balked at the long term costs of that expansion.” I wonder who else is going to be left out in the cold come 2014?

Only one in four say they understand the law’s impact on them and their families well while one-third say they have little or no understanding about how the law will work.

So an ignorant public opposes a law they don’t understand. Well, once October comes and goes and most of them feel no impact, the polling will change.

Polling for Republicans will change for the worse when voters in Repblican states without functioning exchanges or expanded Medicaid see how well things are working in states that do, and vote accordingly.

Mr. Arkadin on September 16, 2013 at 10:28 AM

Jennifer Webb works the deli counter at Publix supermarket and has thyroid problems. Her boyfriend, William May, is an artist recovering from colon cancer.

The couple has relied on a county program that provides health coverage to the working poor. But their “security blanket,” as Webb calls the Alachua County CHOICES program, is being taken away at the end of December. As new coverage provisions take effect Jan. 1 under the Affordable Care Act, the new health care law, local programs that offered barebones care to the uninsured are in flux – and with them, the lives of thousands who depend on them.

A few programs, like CHOICES and HealthShare in northern Minnesota, are shutting down. Others, such as the Appalachian Healthcare Project in Boone, N.C., and Vita Health in Palm Beach County, Fla., are scaling back the number of people they cover. Programs in Lansing, Mich., and Houston are continuing at least for now, but their future is uncertain.

As a result, many enrollees are unsure about how – or even if – they will be able to get coverage next year and what it will cost. …

As a result, almost two-thirds of CHOICES’ enrollees will have no coverage because they earn less than the poverty level, but still too much to qualify for Medicaid. The law provides sliding scale subsidies to help people buy private insurance only if they make between 100 percent and 400 percent of the poverty level, or between $11,500 and $46,000 for an individual. Caught in the middle, they have little recourse.

But…but…but…YES WE CAN!!! O-BA-MA!!!

GrannyDee on September 16, 2013 at 10:30 AM

Just wait until April 15th, 2014, when those without health care insurance start paying THE FINE. Oooops! I mean TAX.

The first tax ever imposed for NOT buying something.

GarandFan on September 16, 2013 at 10:35 AM

We are eating the cake…

right2bright on September 16, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Republican lawmakers have failed in dozens of attempts to repeal the Affordable Care Act, but a new USA TODAY/Pew Research Center Poll shows just how difficult they have made it for President Obama’s signature legislative achievement to succeed.

The Rs have been unable/unwilling to stop the law, but it’s their fault that Obama’s “achievement” collapsing under its own idiocy? This reads as parody to me. Where do the media go next? Besides working directly for the Obama Campaign, of course.

forest on September 16, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Mr. A – I think not – because once they realize what they do have to do – and they see how much that will cost, even in states that are embracing the law, they will realize they are screwed.

Now I have noticed that just recently HHS has started to actually consider a number of offers they received from a number of states – mostly GOP ones but not exclusively – for some alternatives.

Seems Sebilius has realized she is going to lose the PR war and has become much more reasonable in recent days.

The only things these jack@sses understand is no and a stiff shot to the chin. Thugs.

Zomcon JEM on September 16, 2013 at 10:37 AM

One thought, but it won’t matter…

The Republican’s could win back the WH and Senate if they stood up and said “We can’t do anything about ObamaCare, we are not in control, but we will heavily support the repeal of the law that say’s we are exempt…we will not pass bills that place us above the people, that allows people to suffer and us to be immune from that suffering.”

And jam that down the dems throat, day after day that the dems are excluding them selves and place the burden of health care on the “backs of the people”.

right2bright on September 16, 2013 at 10:39 AM

From National Review, hyper-linked on DRUDGE.
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This is why we’re so (expletive) pissed-OFF, at Boehner and the rest of the turn-coats..

listens2glenn on September 16, 2013 at 10:40 AM

Mr. A – I think not – because once they realize what they do have to do – and they see how much that will cost, even in states that are embracing the law, they will realize they are screwed.

Zomcon JEM on September 16, 2013 at 10:37 AM

I simply do not understand why any State agreed to this. I mean sure in the short term they get to cover more people with Medicare money from the Feds, but that is only going to be there for a few years tops. Who do they expect will be on the hook to pony up all that extra dough when the Fed backs down on the extra money in 2017-18?

Johnnyreb on September 16, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Voting these people out of office is too good for them.

PackerBronco on September 16, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Doesn’t matter.

Unless the GOP takes the WH, a LOT of seats in the Senate and House, it’s not going anywhere.

Good Lt on September 16, 2013 at 10:05 AM

This. We won’t peel off enough Democrats to really dislodge this thing until enough of them are scared of losing their next election over it. If they were brazen enough to attempt gun control (guns being one of their more minor pet peeves), they are not going to repudiate their core belief of national healthcare until voters make them pay.

crrr6 on September 16, 2013 at 10:47 AM

Voting these people out of office is too good for them.

PackerBronco on September 16, 2013 at 10:41 AM

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Yeah. Too many (but not all) of them are gaining ‘Mary Antoinette’ stigma, real fast.

listens2glenn on September 16, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Doesn’t matter.

Unless the GOP takes the WH, a LOT of seats in the Senate and House, it’s not going anywhere.

Good Lt on September 16, 2013 at 10:05 AM

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Why don’t you have any faith in DEFUNDING it, right NOW?

listens2glenn on September 16, 2013 at 10:55 AM

listens2glenn on September 16, 2013 at 10:40 AM

Exactly, as my above post states, if the Republican’s were smart, they would take the side of the people…

right2bright on September 16, 2013 at 10:58 AM

We are eating the cake…

right2bright on September 16, 2013 at 10:35 AM

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Not yet, we’re not.

How much “cake” was force fed to the populace, before Antoinette lost her head?

listens2glenn on September 16, 2013 at 11:00 AM

obama’s America


OBAMACARE WILL QUESTION YOUR SEX LIFE

Congress gets sneaky exemption from law

… Punishes senator who tries to stop it

‘There are death panels in there’…

POLL: Confusion reigns… More Americans identify as ‘lower class’…

Employment gap between rich, poor widest on record…

OBAMA: Republicans ‘actually wanna’ accelerate these trends’…

World’s Wealthy Hit Highest Value Ever… Congress: Hillary’s Benghazi Investigation Let Top Officials Escape Blame…

– Drudge on September 16, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Schadenfreude on September 16, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Dear America: SHUT UP AND EAT YOUR DAMN PEAS!!!

-President Kick-Ass.

BigWyo on September 16, 2013 at 10:27 AM

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. . . . . AND Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and … (so far) … John Boehner.

listens2glenn on September 16, 2013 at 11:08 AM

… 43% of Likely U.S. Voters share at least a somewhat favorable opinion of the health care law …

That number is about equivalent to Obama’s favorability rating at any given time. As we all know, it does not mean less than 50% would vote for change.

Just look at how the LGBT community controls the conversation with less than 10% of the population participating.

Now that it is law, 43% is more than enough to forestall change.

Carnac on September 16, 2013 at 11:10 AM

Just wait until April 15th, 2014, when those without health care insurance start paying THE FINE. Oooops! I mean TAX.

The first tax ever imposed for NOT buying something.

GarandFan on September 16, 2013 at 10:35 AM

I believe the correct date is 4-15-2015. Long after the next relevant election.

Carnac on September 16, 2013 at 11:12 AM

Time for more browbeating by Sebelius & a major, prime-time speech by Obummer! That’ll fix it!!

KS Rex on September 16, 2013 at 11:18 AM

obama’s America

OBAMACARE WILL QUESTION YOUR SEX LIFE…

Congress gets sneaky exemption from law…

… Punishes senator who tries to stop it

‘There are death panels in there’…

POLL: Confusion reigns… More Americans identify as ‘lower class’…

Employment gap between rich, poor widest on record…

OBAMA: Republicans ‘actually wanna’ accelerate these trends’…

World’s Wealthy Hit Highest Value Ever… Congress: Hillary’s Benghazi Investigation Let Top Officials Escape Blame…

– Drudge on September 16, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Schadenfreude on September 16, 2013 at 11:01 AM

This is beyond the pale! WTH does my sex life have to do with whether or not I’m being treated for, say, my seasonal allergies?

My answer will be, “Sex life? What sex life?”

GrannyDee on September 16, 2013 at 11:19 AM

You don’t see too many unshaven, unkempt doctors with long pony tails…

Pest on September 16, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Not yet, we’re not.

How much “cake” was force fed to the populace, before Antoinette lost her head?

listens2glenn on September 16, 2013 at 11:00 AM

It was a metaphor to how congress feels about us…both sides.

right2bright on September 16, 2013 at 11:47 AM

This is a great way to fight back !
http://action.americancommitment.org/11464/no-washington-exemption-from-obamacare/?src=widget

Those RINO pigs are really beyond belief ! Please sign petitions and letters .

Lucano on September 16, 2013 at 12:08 PM

I am watching for the 11th Hour decision by the Obama Administration to suddenly announce that, golly gee, they just found out they are just not ready to implement the darn thing, so they’re just going to hold until after November of 2014 to start the program!

pilamaye on September 16, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Just wait until April 15th, 2014, when those without health care insurance start paying THE FINE. Oooops! I mean TAX.

The first tax ever imposed for NOT buying something.

GarandFan on September 16, 2013 at 10:35 AM

What will they call this tax? The non-sales tax, the failure to purchase tax, I wonder of those fees on my cable bill are really taxes too.

Dasher on September 16, 2013 at 12:17 PM

And yet the RINOs are still going to fund this trainwreck and damage the country permanently

neyney on September 16, 2013 at 12:21 PM

This is beyond the pale! WTH does my sex life have to do with whether or not I’m being treated for, say, my seasonal allergies?

My answer will be, “Sex life? What sex life?”

GrannyDee on September 16, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Come on now, how is the REB’s administration going to use this database for political blackmail if they don’t ask invasive questions?

Get with the program.

slickwillie2001 on September 16, 2013 at 12:30 PM

I love that photo of Doctor Bigtooth Ponytail putten’ ‘em together for the Preezy of the United Steezy. It never gets old…

bofh on September 16, 2013 at 12:36 PM

I have this feeling that Republicans are not doing anything to stop Obozocare for a reason. They want the stuff to go into effect for the 2014 election, hoping they will pick up more seats if they just leave it alone and let it run up the cost of everyone’s health insurance. Just a thought and it’s probably not true, but one can hope.

Johnnyreb on September 16, 2013 at 10:28 AM

Yeah, I held out that same (slight)hope that “maybe” Roberts did what he did so that everyone would vote Barky out of office in 2012, when in my head I thought “I wish he would have just judged Obamacare unconstitutional and end it now and get it out of here.” My head was right.
And if the Republicans ARE risking our freedoms by doing what you suggested, then they should have their heads examined.

Sterling Holobyte on September 16, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Here’s an interesting read. Read some of the clear-headed, rational opinions of those opposing Obamacare, and then read some of the incoherent ramblings of the ignorant other side.

Some highlights:

I could go on and on about this. I know too many people who have lost their homes because of being denied health care with preexisting conditions, and I can’t keep going on about this. The more I talk about this, the more it makes me mad. I’m finished with this. I’m going to have to let you go.” – Oregon female (leans Democrat)

Because we have many people without insurance. I don’t know. That is it. I don’t think it will help me but I think it will help other people.” – Georgia female (no party ID)

She’s right there, it probably won’t help her, if she works and is here legally. If fact, for her it will hurt.

I think everybody should be insured. I think that the more people that are insured, the less expensive it will be for everyone. I just feel very strongly that everyone should have access to health care. I think that’s about it.” – New York female (strong Democrat)

She apparently hasn’t heard about how high premiums will go.

“Because health care is a right. That is it. It is a social necessity and it will be healthy for businesses. I just think it is one of the human rights, like education. It will level the playing field in some ways, everyone will be covered and that is it. And it makes economic sense for all employees to have health care. I would like to see a single payer healthcare system. That is it mostly. Nothing.” – New Jersey female (strong Democrat)

Strong Democrat. No kidding. “Single payer”? Is Nancy Pelosi from New Jersey?!

Sterling Holobyte on September 16, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Washington doesn’t care how unpopular it is, as long as it doesn’t lead to open revolt.

Aitch748 on September 16, 2013 at 10:04 AM

yes

and they are somewhat worried about that since 9/11/13, when, with a mere few weeks notice, more than a million Bikers organized, and invaded DC … peacefully, forcefully ..LOUDLY, and unapologetically

how do I know they are concerned?

because the DC Traffic cams were looping old footage all day (some with snow on the ground!) …. there was NOT ONE BIKE to be seen

for some reason they didn’t want this episode widely known … and of course the Old Media dutifully played down this HUGE story

exodus2011 on September 16, 2013 at 7:15 PM