Oh, boy: White House rejects Labor’s bid for an ObamaCare exemption

posted at 11:31 am on September 14, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

At their convention earlier this week, the AFL-CIO passed a resolution slamming the health-care overhaul for which they once fiercely lobbied as “highly disruptive” to union health-care plans. It was the latest escalation of unions’ rising chorus of complaints about ObamaCare’s negative impact on their way of doing business, and an attempt to push the administration to acquiesce to their request that their multi-employer Taft-Hartley plans be eligible for the same subsidies that will be available to low-income workers without insurance plans via their employers. Otherwise, unions have been fretting, employers might be incentivized to simply move unionized employees onto the exchanges — and seeing as how the ‘great health care’ is pretty much one of the prime attractions of joining a union, you can imagine their disgruntlement.

Their campaign, however, has been in vain — for now at least. Via Politico:

The Obama administration on Friday told labor union leaders that their health plans would not be eligible for tax subsidies under Obamacare next year. …

“It’s black and white,” the official said — there is no way to make the union plans, which are considered workplace benefits and already receive special tax treatment for that status, eligible. …

The Treasury Department spelled out the details of the administration’s decision in a letter Friday to Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) and Rep. Dave Camp (R-Mich.).

“The Treasury Department issued a letter today making clear that it does not see a legal way for individuals in multi-employer group health plans to receive individual market tax credits as well as the favorable tax treatment associated with employer-provided health insurance at the same time,” the White House official said in a statement.

The announcement came after a bunch of Big Labor officials met with Obama, Biden, and Labor Secretary Tom Perez at the White House on Friday afternoon, including:

According to the White House, AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka, UNITE HERE President D. Taylor, Teamsters Secretary Ken Hall, Plumbers and Pipefitters President Bill Hite, Electrical Workers President Ed Hill, UFCW President Joe Hansen and Building and Construction Trades Department Secretary-Treasurer Brent Booker attended the White House meeting Friday.

I’m not quite convinced that the White House won’t find some way to appease Big Labor less blatantly somewhere down the road, or at least throw them some type of bone — because unions are not going to be pleased about this, and they will threaten to throw everything they have at making this law look bad in a very public way — but for now, the answer is no.


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Oh, boy

Erika is racist.

steebo77 on September 14, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Labor just didn’t bring enough to the 2014 table. Yet.

BKeyser on September 14, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Hey Trumka! You wanted that POS legislation. You got that POS legislation. So suck in your fat gut and deal with it!

GarandFan on September 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM

time to eat your peas fellas

ted c on September 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM

“the Treasury Dept does not see a legal way”

Since when does that prevent the Obama Adm. from doing what it wants?

theo22 on September 14, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Gosh, fellas. Y’all done laid down with a dog and now you done got fleas. Sho’ ’nuff hate it for ya.

Elections have consequences.

kingsjester on September 14, 2013 at 11:39 AM

I would laugh in delighted scorn, but I’m sure O has a Plan B for his cronies.

PattyJ on September 14, 2013 at 11:39 AM

It’s the old use and screw. When they’re no longer useful they get screwed. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch.

Fenris on September 14, 2013 at 11:39 AM

“The Treasury Department issued a letter today making clear that it does not see a legal way for ….

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! They said “legal”! That is what Trumka is all upset about – “legal” has never been an obstacle for Obama, why is it a problem for him now?

Harbingeing on September 14, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Putin B*tchslaps Obama…Obama B*tchslaps Trumka

workingclass artist on September 14, 2013 at 11:44 AM

“Access, denied.”
“Your account is frozen.”

I fully expect omockme to figure out a way to appease his union buddies.

VegasRick on September 14, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Sometimes bad things happen to good people.

Bmore on September 14, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Suck it, Trumka.

BallisticBob on September 14, 2013 at 11:46 AM

I don’t believe that for a minute. I’m confident that there was something promised for the future- these are national unions with millions of members, the Democratic party isn’t going to mess with that many votes. Obama probably just figured his crappy healthcare law couldn’t take another massive exemption just now.

BettyRuth on September 14, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Sometimes bad things happen to good people.

Bmore on September 14, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Bmore, did you see the comment exchange where someone had said Putin was going to make Obama twerk in a bear suit? I was asking if that was something you could Photoshop.

smoothsailing on September 14, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Government Seeking Inclusion of ‘Social and Behavioral’ Data in Health Records…

http://freebeacon.com/government-seeking-inclusion-of-social-and-behavioral-in-health-records/

What you drink and eat…Your medications…Who you sleep with…What you smoke…etc.

But wait there’s more…

An employee at MNsure, Minnesota’s new online health insurance exchange, accidentally distributed confidential information about more than 2,400 insurance agents.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/13/worker-for-minnesota-obamacare-exchange-releases-private-info-in-security/#ixzz2esmyru1B

All in a Day’s Work of data gathering for The Federal Fascists.

workingclass artist on September 14, 2013 at 11:50 AM

No Soup For You! Come back ONE YEAR! NEXT!!!

rottenrobbie on September 14, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Now if the administration would deny congressional workers subsidies….

SouthernRoots on September 14, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Ha! This should be very entertaining! Who’s bringing the popcorn?

NavyMustang on September 14, 2013 at 11:53 AM

The law in its impartial majesty can’t be deflected. (Except for very good friends of the right people.)

David Blue on September 14, 2013 at 11:55 AM

RICHARD TRUMKA PRESIDENT
Gross Salary $277,486.00 Benefits/Compensation $24,446.00 Total $301,932.00

The rest of the data is here.

http://www.unionfacts.com/employees/afl-cio

workingclass artist on September 14, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Unions push for American exemptionalism.

Flange on September 14, 2013 at 11:58 AM

smoothsailing on September 14, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Yes, I saw it. Funny! Great visual. Normally I could/would, its the off season for that hobby for me, otherwise I would have. ; )

Bmore on September 14, 2013 at 11:58 AM

I believe we are about to see something like this:

“I’m altering the deal, pray I don’t alter it further.”

Pattosensei on September 14, 2013 at 12:00 PM

smoothsailing on September 14, 2013 at 11:49 AM

If you see BKeyser, see if he has time to do it. He likes to play as well. ; )

Bmore on September 14, 2013 at 12:01 PM

“On Monday the AFL-CIO voted near-unanimously to incorporate nonunion affiliates known as “worker centers” into its ranks. The impetus behind this move is what the federation’s president, Richard Trumka, has called the labor movement’s “crisis”—the percentage of the workforce that is unionized, 11.3%, is at a 97-year low…

Worker centers have been around for decades but more recently coalesced into a widespread movement. They attracted public attention this summer by staging nationwide “strikes” at fast-food restaurants and big-box retailers. While the demonstrations appeared to be standard union campaigns, the groups behind them legally identify themselves as nonprofits, charities, educational outfits and community organizations.

Their legal status is crucial, because it allows these groups to circumvent the National Labor Relations Act in their campaigns to organize the American workplace. In 2006, the National Labor Relations Board decided that worker centers are not subject to the federal regulations that govern unions so long as they limit their activities to making intransigent demands of an employer but demonstrate no intent to engage in back-and-forth negotiations.

Worker centers begin their campaigns by staging periodic protests and prolonged media campaigns alleging widespread mistreatment of employees by targeted employers. Unlike traditional unions, which are restricted to 30-day picketing unless they file a petition for representation, worker centers can engage in indefinite pickets. At no point do they have to petition the NLRB for an election.

This end-run around federal law helps unions in industries that have historically kept organized labor at arm’s length….

The initial goal is to sway public opinion against an employer, which will then incite dissent among an ever-larger pool of employees. The final goal, though, is still unionization.

The most prominent worker centers have been established by major labor unions. For example, the recent spate of fast-food strikes, loosely organized under the banner of “Fight for 15,” is funded by the Service Employees International Union, which has given at least $7.5 million to the organizations behind the strikes.

Similarly, “OUR Walmart” was founded by the United Food and Commercial Workers International Union. And the “Restaurant Opportunities Center” (aka ROC), which targets non-fast-food restaurants in major American cities, is a creature of the Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees International Union and is described by co-founder Saru Jayaraman as a tool for organizing “the 99% of the industry that doesn’t have a union.”

Worker centers have no standard membership model. Some of them, like ROC, have dues-paying members who are either restaurant employees or simply members of the community. Others, like OUR Walmart and Fast Food Forward, are largely made up of former union officials and organizers as well as a few employees who claim to represent similar-minded employees who just haven’t yet joined.

Because of their legal status, worker centers also dodge the standard union financial transparency and governance regulations under the Labor-Management Reporting and Disclosure Act….”

http://laborpains.org/2013/09/13/the-wall-street-journal-publishes-cuf-op-ed-on-worker-centers/

workingclass artist on September 14, 2013 at 12:02 PM

something is fishy.

ctmom on September 14, 2013 at 12:09 PM

So the Union,has to bend over and assume the position!

Ha Ha!!
(sarc)

canopfor on September 14, 2013 at 12:09 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/13/Union-Boss-We-ll-Be-Damned-If-We-re-Going-To-Lose-Our-Health-Insurance

Stupid sometimes goes all the way to the bone.

FTA:

Laborers’ International Union of North America (LIUNA) President Terry O’Sullivan said, “if the Affordable Care Act is not fixed, and it destroys the health and welfare funds that we have all fought for and stand for, then I believe it needs to be repealed. We don’t want it repealed. We want it fixed, fixed, fixed.”

dogsoldier on September 14, 2013 at 12:09 PM

something is fishy.

ctmom on September 14, 2013 at 12:09 PM

ctmom:Yup,sumpin reeks in Syria,er ahem,Denmark!:)

(snark)

canopfor on September 14, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Why does Barry need unions when Putin is his pal now? Sorry, leeches. You’ve got a frenemy in chief.

Philly on September 14, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Erika is racist.

steebo77 on September 14, 2013 at 11:32 AM

The way that term has been abused lately, not being a racist would make her a minority.

teejk on September 14, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Hillary to the rescue…

Philly on September 14, 2013 at 12:15 PM

You already bit the apple -but nothing original.

CW on September 14, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Thank you, “Erica the racist.” Until the last two minutes I have been having a bad day with a good crack on the head and a possible concussion.

burt on September 14, 2013 at 12:18 PM

I sees me some heavy schadenfreude goin’ on here

LeftCoastRight on September 14, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Morons.

John the Libertarian on September 14, 2013 at 12:23 PM

I am sure that labor will get subsidies, they’ll just be behind our backs, in the way of payoffs for all the donations.

Do not forget, unions are legalized money-laundering schemes for the democrat party.

rightside on September 14, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Morning….no way do I believe O is not going to “take care” of his buddies. Only a matter of time here.

lol canopfor!

CoffeeLover on September 14, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Does anybody here think Oslima is going to slam the unions,especially with the 2014 elections coming up? Don’t worry he is going to throw them a bone the size of Manhattan it is going to be hush hush, under the table type of thing.Ain’t no way he is going to diss these people.

jeffinsjvca on September 14, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Trumka starts to feel like a condom.

Nothing action without one, and it gets tossed in the trash.

BobMbx on September 14, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Nothing action without one, and it gets tossed in the trash.

BobMbx on September 14, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Good lord. Not sure I could’ve messed that up any more than I did. So, let me reset:

No action without one, then it gets tossed into the trash.

BobMbx on September 14, 2013 at 12:41 PM

“No Union thuggin at the voter polls next year…” – Trumka

“I Won!….Drink More Water” – Obama

workingclass artist on September 14, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Morning….no way do I believe O is not going to “take care” of his buddies. Only a matter of time here.

lol canopfor!

CoffeeLover on September 14, 2013 at 12:25 PM

CoofeeLover:

Good Morning,this HopeyCare Soap UnionOpera is a hoot:)

canopfor on September 14, 2013 at 12:47 PM

The fat little pig Trumpka can threaten to not vote for Obama again…

Why’s that big bus over there revving its engines?

slickwillie2001 on September 14, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Don’t miss this.

Schadenfreude on September 14, 2013 at 12:55 PM

I agree with the decision.

There s/b NO exemptions, none. The entire package s/b sent to Hades.

obama’care’, along with amnesty, will totally destroy the land.

Work harder.

Schadenfreude on September 14, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Secret deal in the works.

But… we know from history that unions will eventually need to be emasculated by the state once their usefulness is exhausted.

mankai on September 14, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Plus, this article does not even include the gun questions, to which you should always answer no, even if you own any. Saying ‘I will not answer”, or “that has nothing to do with health care” will mark you just as much as an owner.

Pay cash or don’t go to doctors in the system alas.

Schadenfreude on September 14, 2013 at 1:08 PM

The way that term has been abused lately, not being a racist would make her a minority.

teejk on September 14, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Not strong enough. Have you noticed that many of the people who use that term are the racists?

burt on September 14, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Plus, this article does not even include the gun questions, to which you should always answer no, even if you own any. Saying ‘I will not answer”, or “that has nothing to do with health care” will mark you just as much as an owner.

Pay cash or don’t go to doctors in the system alas.

Schadenfreude on September 14, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Ditto census questions except all but the most basic as prescribed in the Constitution.

If everyone in the country claims to be ‘mixed’ race, we can shut down the racial grievance industry.

slickwillie2001 on September 14, 2013 at 1:16 PM

And now that the ‘official’ answer is given and attention will be diverted elsewhere, something will happen below the radar to ‘fix’ this for the unions.

Bank on it.

Midas on September 14, 2013 at 1:19 PM

“I Won!….Drink More Water coolade” – Obama

burt on September 14, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Implement it good and hard. No fixes. Let the unions choke on it.

That is the path to repeal.

Revenant on September 14, 2013 at 2:02 PM

US, Russia reach deal on Syria’s chemical weapons

Sen. Shaheen, D-N.H., on Syria deal: ‘The fact is that it was the credible threat of force that helped push Russia to the negotiating table to strike this deal’ – @NBCNews

58 mins ago by editor

canopfor on September 14, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Ooops!

Le Wrong thread:

canopfor on September 14, 2013 at 2:12 PM

canopfor on September 14, 2013 at 2:15 PM

this was just the first negotiating session. Always go in with big demands, then later get what you really want

r keller on September 14, 2013 at 2:25 PM

I don’t believe that for a minute. I’m confident that there was something promised for the future- these are national unions with millions of members, the Democratic party isn’t going to mess with that many votes. Obama probably just figured his crappy healthcare law couldn’t take another massive exemption just now.

BettyRuth on September 14, 2013 at 11:48 AM

and

I am sure that labor will get subsidies, they’ll just be behind our backs, in the way of payoffs for all the donations.

Do not forget, unions are legalized money-laundering schemes for the democrat party.

rightside on September 14, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Granting that both these things are true. Keep in mind though that Obama and the Democrats have a documented history of “under-bussing” anyone they feel that they don’t need anymore. What if the regime [which is trying to restrict the First Amendment to government-licensed "journolists" http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/358448/there-ought-be-no-law-michael-walsh, is at war on the Second, has destroyed the 4th and routinely uses government agencies against political enemies, has co-opted the Republican party completely, and is well on the way to creating the internal "civilian" military force stronger than the military] feels that they no longer need to worry about elections ever again?

We have seen the law and the Constitution trashed as a matter of course. Once you start on that path, hesitation means you risk retaliation. The only alternative is to push on that path to the end. Looking at what has happened for the last 5 years, looking at Obama’s blatant claims that he alone can take the US into a war, and any consultation with Congress is a courtesy he does not have to do; what argument can you make that they would risk losing power peacefully in a semi-honest election when election fraud is their normal modus operandi?

Subotai Bahadur

Subotai Bahadur on September 14, 2013 at 2:34 PM

And on a related note…….

From Drudge:
REPORT: White House Full of Vermin…

No S#!t.

Tenwheeler on September 14, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Kicked to the curb. He doesn’t need you anymore. Barry only cares about himself. It’s a shame you didn’t realize that.

Tough luck to the Dems up for re-election in the midterm. Duh Won is not concerned. Let Hillary take care of it.

Philly on September 14, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Used unions just like…Hitler.
Allied with Moslems worldwide just like…Hitler.

Murphy9 on September 14, 2013 at 3:22 PM

It’s the old use and screw. When they’re no longer useful they get screwed. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch.

Fenris on September 14, 2013 at 11:39 AM

The village idiot could see this coming. I don’t think it will be fixed and if it is it will be short lived. The object was to take control of you health care and make you call your elected official for health care assistance. No way they will back off, they want single payer.

CW20 on September 14, 2013 at 3:23 PM

It doesn’t matter. The union thugs will still vote for the (D). Every. Time.

Decoski on September 14, 2013 at 3:31 PM

And thus Team SCOAMT proves to be no different than any other Communist regime. Either you work for the government or you don’t count.

Steve Eggleston on September 14, 2013 at 3:50 PM

When you drink with the devil, you get a comfortable chair in hell.

Until the devil tires of you…

Those people in the unions better figure it out.

Kevin R on September 14, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Vote for Mitt Romney Hillary Clinton, I will repeal Obamacare. You watch, this beast might come full circle.

hillsoftx on September 14, 2013 at 3:51 PM

I’m not quite convinced that the White House won’t find some way to appease Big Labor less blatantly somewhere down the road, or at least throw them some type of bone — because unions are not going to be pleased about this, and they will threaten to throw everything they have at making this law look bad in a very public way — but for now, the answer is no.

How can they not make the law look bad? The law is bad. Reality makes it look bad. Every interaction (or non-interaction) with it makes it look bad. The tons of unintended (and many intended) consequences of the law make it look bad.

Theophile on September 14, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Well, see? Even Obama can learn something from Scott Walker about standing up to unions. ;)

Walker for President!

Sterling Holobyte on September 14, 2013 at 5:04 PM

I am a republican committeeman for a county in Illinois. Every year, we solicit for like minded organizations to fund our annual Barbeque fundraiser. This year, we were contacted by the International Laborers Union who requested they be a sponsor. Their request came with a check for $200 and a letter that read in part “good luck with your political endeavors.”

When I received that letter, I knew it could only be out of fear of Obama Care. I can’t imagine any other reason.

Edith Stifle on September 14, 2013 at 5:15 PM

According to the White House, AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka, UNITE HERE President D. Taylor, Teamsters Secretary Ken Hall, Plumbers and Pipefitters President Bill Hite, Electrical Workers President Ed Hill, UFCW President Joe Hansen and Building and Construction Trades Department Secretary-Treasurer Brent Booker attended the White House meeting Friday.

This is a DNC meeting … isn’t that illegal in the White House?

Jaibones on September 14, 2013 at 5:55 PM

*Sigh* Somebody pass me the popcorn. This might get messy.

sage0925 on September 14, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Time for the unions to get together with the insurance companies and reflect on their stupidity in supporting the legislation that turns out to damage them both.

It was in the bill. It was predictable.

virgo on September 14, 2013 at 11:52 PM

Used like a whore at a bachelor party.
You have been paid now git!!!!

Bubba Redneck on September 14, 2013 at 11:57 PM

I wouldn’t say this is grounds for divorce but someone was told “not tonight darling” and will be sleeping on the couch for a few weeks. But I know they will kiss and makeup soon enough

jaywemm on September 15, 2013 at 12:28 AM

I don’t believe that for a minute. I’m confident that there was something promised for the future- these are national unions with millions of members, the Democratic party isn’t going to mess with that many votes. Obama probably just figured his crappy healthcare law couldn’t take another massive exemption just now.

BettyRuth on September 14, 2013 at 11:48 AM

The Progressive Left sees this as endgame time. Once they get their single payer system in, they feel that they will have won, so they are willing to expend as much capital as necessary to gain their goal.

They will have won, as once that is in place, there will be no peaceful way to eliminate it, ever. So their behavior makes perfect sense.

Nathan_OH on September 15, 2013 at 9:50 AM