“This is not a game”: Kerry rejects Assad’s timeline for WMD compliance at meeting with Russian foreign minister

posted at 5:21 pm on September 12, 2013 by Allahpundit

But … it is a game. That’s the whole point. If the White House takes this disarmament charade seriously at the UN with demands that Assad turn over his arsenal expeditiously and verifiably, it’s going to put Obama right back in the war box the way Ryan Lizza described this morning. Russia’s proposal is attractive to him because it’s a charade, because it can be slow-walked and fudged at the UN while Congress and the American public gradually forget about Syria. To turn this from kabuki into a semi-serious process defeats the purpose.

Granted, Kerry has no choice but to talk tough while people are still paying attention, but it sounds like they mean business on compliance. Which, as I say, means more headaches for O to come, not less.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry is rejecting Syrian President Bashar Assad’s suggestion Thursday that he begin submitting data on his chemical weapons arsenal one month after signing an international chemical weapons ban.

Speaking at a news conference with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, Kerry noted that Assad said a 30-day lead time would be standard.

“There is nothing standard about this process,” Kerry said, because Assad has used his chemical weapons.

“The words of the Syrian regime in our judgment are simply not enough.”

Empty rhetoric? Maybe not:

American officials said they were planning a series of early tests to determine if the Russian government, and, more important, President Bashar al-Assad of Syria, were serious about accepting international control of Syria’s huge chemical arsenal…

One test of Mr. Assad’s sincerity will be the willingness of Russia and Syria to accept “a rapid beginning to international control” that would preclude the Assad government from gaining access to chemical weapons or using them, said a senior State Department official who was traveling on Mr. Kerry’s plane…

“There are some specific things that we can ask for, and see if they get delivered very quickly, that will give us an early sense of whether there is reality here or not,” said the State Department official, speaking on the condition of anonymity under department protocols.

If Assad tells them to get lost, then what? O’s surely not going back to Congress; proof that Syria’s disarmament is a sham might win him some extra votes, but he’s in such a deep hole with both Democrats and Republicans that he might still not get to 218. I think the plan, such as it is, is to bomb Assad straightaway if he doesn’t comply, without congressional approval, on the theory that the public will be a little more tolerant of a new war if it looks like Assad and Putin are jerking the UN around. That would also explain the oddly belligerent tone to Obama’s speech on Tuesday night even though, ostensibly, it was all about how we *shouldn’t* attack right now. Maybe he’s concluded that the only way to get back some credibility is to hit Assad anyway, and the UN stuff is just a prelude designed to build a bit of extra moral authority for doing so. The fact that he tried a last resort to diplomacy and it went nowhere because Assad’s a liar will be presented as a game-changing fact by his spin team which requires an immediate response by the commander-in-chief, without waiting for approval from Congress.

Then again, pay attention to what Kerry says at the very end here about how he thinks there’s a way for Assad to disarm even in the middle of a civil war. Er, no, there isn’t, not without either a ceasefire or lots and lots of boots on the ground, neither of which is happening. Either he has some cockamamie plan for handling WMD to offer Assad which he knows won’t work, which means an attack is coming down the road, or he’s going to pretend that the plan is working and then look the other way when it fails, which would mean O’s still intending to play along with this charade. Can’t wait to find out which it is.

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“This is not a game”: Kerry rejects Assad’s timeline for WMD compliance at meeting with Russian foreign minister

You’re right, Lurch, it isn’t any ‘game’, take your own advice, ijit.

o/t to my friends in Seaside: hang tough, as you have for the last 11 months, friends and community will be there once we’re allowed through; to the first-responders, thank you and God bless your service; to the Guard, who will undoubtedly ‘occupy’ this end of the island once again: have compassion and faith.

May God bless you all, in Jesus name. Amen.

jersey taxpayer on September 12, 2013 at 9:26 PM

The Benny Hill Obama Administration

Good Lt on September 12, 2013 at 9:33 PM

jersey taxpayer on September 12, 2013 at 9:26 PM

Prayers for all fighting this fire. What a shame after just getting that rebuild. And 30 businesses destroyed.

It appears the firefighters have made some progress.

http://news.msn.com/us/effort-to-halt-big-nj-boardwalk-fire-seems-to-be-working?ocid=ansnews11&stay=1

bluefox on September 12, 2013 at 9:44 PM

We better hunker down.

bluefox on September 12, 2013 at 9:22 PM

To be clear, I want it to be wrong. :) I would rather celebrate. Picking one of many, Resist We Much snagged an article, and this is the conclusion:

Kerry begins his negotiations with his Russian counterpart today, and any idea that the US was going to strike has evaporated. Obama is inert, rendering Kerry’s threats empty.

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2013/09/putin-makes-obama-pay-high-price-for.html

That conclusion is difficult to accept for two reasons. It supposes Obama feels constrained to the current, accidental political dialog. He might not feel constrained at all. It also supposes Obama will just try to spin the current narrative in his favor, and in that way attempt to recover from the humiliation of this lowest ebb. To that, I would say attacking Syria is a far better option for the administration. It completely destroys the current media funeral, and it strongly answers the “weakness” and “indecisiveness” accusations. I mean as a matter of perception.

Put shorter, to extricate himself from this debacle, the best thing for Obama to do from Obama’s point of view might be to attack Syria.

– But, be all that as it may, and setting aside Obama trying to politically recover, the thing I don’t understand at all is the problem of Assad. I think I might have boiled it down: The question might be, What is Assad refusing to do that “the rebels” have agreed to do? Or, Exactly what is Assad standing in the way of? It’s all just talking, but I suspect the answer to that question, however expresses, finally pulls the curtain back.

– Or that could be completely wrong.

Axe on September 12, 2013 at 9:46 PM

Benny Hill?

Close:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

wolly4321 on September 12, 2013 at 9:46 PM

*expressed

Axe on September 12, 2013 at 9:49 PM

..joke!

KOOLAID2 on September 12, 2013 at 9:54 PM

No it’s not completely wrong. Assad is in the way of the MB/al qauda.

It’s that simple.

The harder question is what do jackwads like senator senile and longface stand to gain?

What does the hard left gain with a caliphate?

wolly4321 on September 12, 2013 at 10:00 PM

bluefox on September 12, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Thanks, blue, I kinda needed that, right now :) (and yes, it appears that biz north of the fire acted to wet down not only the b/w, but also the facades of nearby buildings–locals taking their own in hand–so much for that “gimmedat” personna

Need to jet. take good care, all

jersey taxpayer on September 12, 2013 at 10:08 PM

Axe on September 12, 2013 at 9:46 PM

I’ll read RWM’s link first, thanks.

bluefox on September 12, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Thanks, blue, I kinda needed that, right now :) (and yes, it appears that biz north of the fire acted to wet down not only the b/w, but also the facades of nearby buildings–locals taking their own in hand–so much for that “gimmedat” personna

Need to jet. take good care, all

jersey taxpayer on September 12, 2013 at 10:08 PM

That’s good to hear that they took action on their own. The winds were pretty strong and just fanned that fire northwood. I hope they are able to get it under control and keep it from spreading any further.

From what I read, there were no injuries currently and hope that continues.

praying for the best,

bf

bluefox on September 12, 2013 at 10:18 PM

EXCLUSIVE: Pentagon may be involved in chemical attack in Syria, US intelligence colonel hacked mail reflect

Meanwhile, the media has spread new proofs of the U.S. intelligence involvement to chemical attack near Damascus. Hacker got access to U.S. intelligence correspondence and published U.S. Army Col. ANTHONY J. MACDONALD’s mail. Macdonald is General Staff Director, Operations and Plans Office of the Deputy Chief of Staff for Intelligence the Army Staff. It’s about chemical attack in Syria.

In the message August 22 Eugene Furst congratulates Col. on successful operation and refers him to Wasington Post publication about chemical attack in Syria. From the Anthony’s wife dialog with her friend it’s clear the video with the children killed in the chemical attack near Damascus was staged by U.S. Intelligence.

VorDaj on September 12, 2013 at 10:33 PM

The question might be, What is Assad refusing to do that “the rebels” have agreed to do? Or, Exactly what is Assad standing in the way of? It’s all just talking, but I suspect the answer to that question, however expresses, finally pulls the curtain back.

– Or that could be completely wrong.

Axe on September 12, 2013 at 9:46 PM

I read that article RWM posted. I don’t agree with most of it, i.e.: Giving Kerry way too much credit. It sounded like he was President!
Kerry, just like Hillary, carried out Obama’s agenda. Imo, Kerry speaks for Obama. If he didn’t, he would have been muzzled or put on a teleprompter.

The rebels that we are funding with money & weapons are doing their best to remove Assad. Assad is refusing to resign!

This is about Oil & Natural Gas lines. I posted about this on one of the threads last week. Oil & Natural Gas is what is behind the curtain:-)

bluefox on September 12, 2013 at 10:42 PM

VorDaj on September 12, 2013 at 10:33 PM

Oh, Wow! Somebody is serious in exposing this.

This needs to be posted on the QOTD tonight.

bluefox on September 12, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Re: N.J. Boardwalk Fire…

Six hours after it started, crews have the fire under control, but it is still burning as of 9:30 p.m., according to Seaside Heights Police Chief Thomas Boyd.

Christine Hemingway was working inside Kohr Brothers this afternoon and said it appeared as if the smoke was rising from underneath the boardwalk.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/12/20461334-fire-destroys-80-of-boardwalk-in-sandy-ravaged-jersey-shore-town?lite&gt1=43001

bluefox on September 12, 2013 at 11:53 PM

bluefox on September 12, 2013 at 11:53 PM

Whoa–it’s been 12 years and a day since I’ve seen that kind of smoke.

Horrid.

And, even though I know the cause is different, the effect isn’t.

I’m out. G’night all. G’night blue. God bless.

jersey taxpayer on September 13, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Game, GAme,,, GAME, crap that is John F. Kerry up top, talk about a joke, a game player, a pruple heart game’er….

“Those People” is who he thinks we are, all the elites in both parts of the two party evil money cult who have upsurped our Constitution and over thrown the rule of law think of U.S. as those people.

Back in the day, I-Corps, gone West over the fence, tracking, listening, finding targets with Russian advisors walking with them.

Got cut off, ran/walked out for a week, Unit intact, got to FOB outside the wire at Kae Shan base, got a call from a Col. you guys load up on the next doubble wapper and get down to I-Corps Htqts they want to give you guys a unit citation…

We load up just like we were from the boonies, ride down to Da Nang , (sleep on the way) wake up, get the dog bus ride to the I-Corps Gen.’s place on the rive there, they put us in a large room and said wait here, after a bit a starch shirt Major comes in with his little gofers with him, two lt’s ,,, they do not know who are what we are,,,, the Major says in loud voice…

“Who are “these people” and what are they doing in the Gen.’s Hdqts dressed and looking like this……””””

My 02 guys looks at the other unit members and ask them,
“How about we just get back to work and dedimow out of here…”
Everyone agreed, and out the door we go, comming in the door two Congress criters and the Gen. ect. and we say “hi-and bye bye as we pass them.”

The elites are out of control, their vanity and false pride has made them into tools and fools.

Thing is they are dragging U.S. down with them.

Just say no and vote them out.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on September 13, 2013 at 12:30 AM

Said the man with the melting face, melting brain, melting…..

AshleyTKing on September 13, 2013 at 1:11 AM

And, even though I know the cause is different, the effect isn’t.

I’m out. G’night all. G’night blue. God bless.

jersey taxpayer on September 13, 2013 at 12:12 AM

That was a lot of smoke. Can’t imagine what caused the fire in the first place. Electrical Cables under the boardwalk? We don’t have boardwalks when I live, so I’m just trying to figure that out:-)

It’s way past my bedtime, so am signing off. Have a good night JT & God Bless you too. And all the ones suffering this loss and especially the crew battling the fires. I heard they were very tired and exhausted.

bluefox on September 13, 2013 at 1:48 AM

Why is Kerry still allowed out unsupervised?

If he’s not careful … he could stop a war.

virgo on September 13, 2013 at 2:59 AM

It’s a game, it’s solitaire, and you’re playing with yourself, John. Be ashamed.

Ronnie on September 13, 2013 at 3:06 AM

http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/analytic-guidance-syria-crisis

Remember that all public statements now are meant to obscure real plans and intentions. They are intended to shape the environment. Read them, but do not look at them as anything more than tactics.

Kenosha Kid on September 13, 2013 at 3:57 AM

“It has to be” nothing and Kerry and Oblama will take it and like it.

They and we got no creds anymo’.

Idiots.

Sherman1864 on September 13, 2013 at 4:03 AM

“This is not a game”

Gee, Mr. Kerry, you sure could have fooled me with your recent antics in regards to Syria. Idiot.

zoyclem on September 13, 2013 at 7:24 AM

“This is not a game”: Kerry

Said with all the credibility of an angry father yelling to the backseat of a sedan, ‘if you kids don’t knock it off, I’m turning this car around and going back home!’

socalcon on September 13, 2013 at 7:27 AM

It is a game and a very entertaining one. The funniest part is that the entire Syria debate revolves around which Islamists that hate us should we assist?? Which Islamist group that hates us and wants us to all die or convert needs our help the most?

The second funniest part is that we are governed largely by individuals who should be in a nursing home. Go talk to a 77 year old and try to convince yourself “yeah this person has the mental capacity and physical endurance to decide military and foreign policy” LOL most can’t remember where they put their keys. God help us!

jephthah on September 13, 2013 at 7:40 AM

Where are all the liberal commenters who told us how brilliant Obama was and how Assad was going to just give up his chemical weapons because of Obama’s threat to send in a couple of missiles after telling Assad he was going to send in just a couple of missiles and then deciding not to send in the missiles because the polls did not support sending in the missiles?

I thought they told us this was brilliant chess moves by a master foreign policy guru?

Monkeytoe on September 13, 2013 at 7:48 AM

EXCLUSIVE: Pentagon may be involved in chemical attack in Syria, US intelligence colonel hacked mail reflect

Meanwhile, the media has spread new proofs of the U.S. intelligence involvement to chemical attack near Damascus. Hacker got access to U.S. intelligence correspondence and published U.S. Army Col. ANTHONY J. MACDONALD’s mail. Macdonald is General Staff Director, Operations and Plans Office of the Deputy Chief of Staff for Intelligence the Army Staff. It’s about chemical attack in Syria.

In the message August 22 Eugene Furst congratulates Col. on successful operation and refers him to Wasington Post publication about chemical attack in Syria. From the Anthony’s wife dialog with her friend it’s clear the video with the children killed in the chemical attack near Damascus was staged by U.S. Intelligence.

VorDaj on September 12, 2013 at 10:33 PM

WTF? If true – we better get ready to move on this bunch of d-bags.

HomeoftheBrave on September 13, 2013 at 7:51 AM

Monkeytoe on September 13, 2013 at 7:48 AM

The lightbringer was playing checkers at the time…

HomeoftheBrave on September 13, 2013 at 7:52 AM

The SAD thing is both Obama and Kerry are being ‘played’ / got ‘played’ on both ends:

Kerry’s/Obama’s primary advisor on Syria, Ms. Elizabeth O’Bagy – a ‘prominent pro-Syrian intervention expert’, cited by both Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) and Sec. of State John Kerry – lied about her academic credentials and failed to disclose HER TIES TO REBEL GROUPS in the embattled republic. She HELPED convince Obama and Kerry that Assad was behind the chemical weapons attacks on his own people. Putin, however, presented a 100-page report providing ‘evidence’ to support his claim that it was the Al Qaeda / Jihadist-backed rebels who conducted the chemical attack, in hopes that some hot-headed, gullible ‘Nobel Peace Prize-winning’ world leader would rush off and attack Assad thereby weakening him / his regime so they (rebels) could take over. Obama and Kerry were so convinced that they were willing to take the nation to war alone, despite no other nation in the world being convinced and being willing to join us in a military strike.

On the ‘other end’, after Putin stepped in / ‘came to the rescue’ by negotiating a PEACEFUL end to the situation, Obama and Kerry are forced to accept the Russian-made deal or else risk looking like war-mongers determined to undermine the peacefully negotiated deal. Assad is now ‘playing’ Obama and Kerry on that very angle – Assad 1st demanded that they would only agree to the deal if Obama / Kerry / the US ‘takes the threat of military strikes off the table’. Pressured to support the deal, Obama / Kerry were forced to agree to the demand….Score 1 for Assad forcing the United States, forcing our President, to bow to his demands. Yesterday morning it was reported that Obama, however, was still shipping weapons to the rebels through the CIA. (It seems this administration can’t keep their own mouths shut / can’t keep a secret.) By yesterday afternoon Assad, being in the proverbial ‘driver’s seat’, made ANOTHER demand: “I will not agree to Putin’s plan unless the United States stops sending weapons / support to ‘my’ enemies – the Al Qaeda / Jihadist-backed rebels!” Assad went further by declaring that Obama / the United States are the true supporters of terrorism, as seen by arming Al Qaeda & Jihadists in Syria. BAM, ‘played again’! Once again, Obama must stop sending weapons to the rebels or be seen as trying to undermine the ‘peacefully negotiated’ deal.

Manipulated to go alone & press for war on one end by Al Qaeda / Jihadists & their ‘mouth-piece’ – Mrs. O’Bagy, exposed as a failed leader capable of negotiating peacefully to end a ‘crisis’, ‘blackmailed’ into promising NOT to take military action, and ‘shamed’ into ceasing the arming of TERRORISTS, Obama and Kerry walked right into the trap set by the rebels, Assad, and Putin.

easyt65 on September 13, 2013 at 8:25 AM

“This is not a game” –> Stop toying with me. Stop d!cking me around.

petefrt on September 13, 2013 at 9:02 AM

WTF? If true – we better get ready to move on this bunch of d-bags.

HomeoftheBrave on September 13, 2013 at 7:51 AM

That came out a few days ago. Military has denied it, of course, and called the supposed emails fake. That still doesn’t explain a lot since the hacker claimed he gained access to these emails via McDonald’s LinkedIn account (I guess military guys don’t know what a strong password means). Emails seem pretty real content wise, but who knows at this point. Not that I would believe any “denials” from feds after Benghazi.

riddick on September 13, 2013 at 10:08 AM

Kerry rejects Assad’s timeline for WMD compliance at meeting with Russian foreign minister

HEY JOHN: You’re the Bozo who turned control of Syria and the middle east over to Putin!!!

So if you don’t like what is going on, ask (or beg) Putin to fix it!

/do I really need a SARC tag?>

landlines on September 13, 2013 at 3:40 PM

What a joke. Go back to Rhode Island. Avoid Mass taxes and shut up.

steveracer on September 14, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Did he use the word ‘miniscule’

RdLake on September 15, 2013 at 7:15 PM

For the first time in Americas short history, we have genuinely imbecilic people at the head of every department. Obamas preacher of twenty hears had it right apparently.

Murphy9 on September 16, 2013 at 7:46 AM

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