Cantor’s clean-CR plan apparently not going over too well

posted at 4:01 pm on September 12, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Budget-battle season is back on Capitol Hill, and not without the requisite drama; it sounds like the House leadership was hoping to pass a continuing resolution (which Congress needs to do before October 1st in order to avert a government shutdown) this week, in order to avoid the usual showdown angst and the accompanying poor PR. On Tuesday, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor came up with a plan that would use some Congressional-procedure finagling to send a clean CR over to the Senate, but force the Senate to vote explicitly on ObamaCare’s funding before they could take up the clean CR. The point therein would have been to at least force a few sheepish and/or potentially vulnerable Democrats to take a yes-or-no stand, and leadership had been hoping to vote on the scheme before the week was out.

But that plan working out would have been far too easy, of course. Merely wringing a show vote out of the Senate isn’t quite the bold, hard-line stance that a number of House conservatives had in mind, and leadership decided to push the vote back, presumably to either drum up all the necessary votes or to find some other sort of compromise.

They still haven’t found either, according to Speaker Boehner as of this morning. Via The Hill:

Republican leaders have failed to settle on an alternative plan to keep the government running after Sept. 30, Speaker John Boehner said Thursday, a day after conservative opposition forced him to delay a vote on their original proposal.

“There are a lot of discussions going on about how to deal with the [continuing resolution] and the issue of ObamaCare, so we’re continuing to work with our members,” Boehner (R-Ohio) said at a Capitol press conference. …

“There are a million options that are being discussed by a lot of people,” Boehner said. “When we have something to report, we’ll let you know.”

A number of conservatives are pressing party leaders to require a one-year delay of ObamaCare in exchange for a continuing resolution, but Boehner would not comment directly on the idea. …

“I’m well aware of the deadlines,” Boehner said. “So are my colleagues. And so we’re working with our colleagues to work our way through these issues. I think there’s a way to get there.”

It doesn’t sound like the necessary Republican votes are within reach to save the plan, and leadership is probably detecting some strong resistance to any kind of mitigation on a stronge ObamaCare-defunding move because Cantor is already suggesting that they may cancel the recess currently scheduled for the last week of September to sort this thing out.

The Democrats, of course, are standing at the ready to go to town on this series of developments, as is their wont:

“I sometimes sympathize with Speaker Boehner, but the fact of the matter is, if he wants to lead for the good of this nation he has to step beyond the tea party faction in his caucus,” the Illinois Democrat said. “If he would call our farm bill on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives, it would pass. I believe if he called our immigration bill on the floor of the House of Representatives, it would pass. If he would call on the floor a basic funding level of the Senate budget resolution, it would pass.”

Instead, Durbin said, “He has bowed to this willful minority in his own caucus at the expense of this government and of this nation.”

“Their direction is a direction to shutting down the government,” Reid said of the House Republicans, adding that ”obviously” a majority of that group want to see a government shutdown. ”Those in touch with reality, and most everyone is in touch with reality, should understand that passing a clean CR is the right thing to do,” Reid said.

“If the Republican leaders keep giving in to the tea party and their impossible demands, they must be rooting for a shutdown,” Reid said. “There’s still a common-sense solution.”


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Cantor assumed that you are all stupid.

He is NO different than the leftists, who think that all their constituents are sheepleton.

Schadenfreude on September 12, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Does that meathead still want to bomb Syria?

forest on September 12, 2013 at 4:03 PM

No CR period!!! Pass a damn budget and let the Senate squirm.

meci on September 12, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Fools

txmomof6 on September 12, 2013 at 4:07 PM

I sometimes sympathize with Speaker Boehner, but the fact of the matter is, if he wants to lead for the good of this nation he has to step beyond the tea party faction in his caucus.

Thus says the often-helpful, well-known moderate of his party, Dick Durbin.

I don’t sympathize with Boehner. I want to loan him some testosterone.

beatcanvas on September 12, 2013 at 4:07 PM

I don’t sympathize with Boehner. I want to loan him some testosterone.

beatcanvas on September 12, 2013 at 4:07 PM

He has plenty of testosterone when it comes to fighting conservatives. What you need to lend him are some principles.

Doomberg on September 12, 2013 at 4:09 PM

What the hell is all of this BS worth? Defund OCare or shut the government down, and DON’T BLINK. Let the whole thing come falling down. We should have done this the last two years. The future we have isn’t worth bupkis if our elected “leaders” keep on like this. Bend these people to our will, or get them the hell out.

MikeinPRCA on September 12, 2013 at 4:20 PM

When was the last real Federal Budget passed? Careful that’s a trick question. 1997 was the last time a honest to goodness real Federal Budget was passed. Since then we have had continuing resolutions, omnibus spending measures or bills and continuing resolutions, all of which are not real Federal Budgets. One almost got passed in 2009 with Obama but it morphed into a omnibus spending bill before it left the House in agreement with the Senate.

Many actual Federal Budgets have been proposed, heck Obama even sat down and submitted one that was so ludicrous it did not get a single vote from even his own party, but no Federal Budget has been passed since 1997.

If people saw a real Federal Budget there would be serious problems for Congress and the President. That is why we don’t do them anymore, so all this talk of CR’s and defunding this or that in the budget will go nowhere. It is all BS.

Johnnyreb on September 12, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Cantor is a made man of the elite two party evil money cult in Washington D.C..

It is a “con”.

We are the “marks”.

They discarded the Constitution, and now they are the only ones via their scribes aka Congressional Staff who can read and understand the meaning of all the rules, regulations and laws in the Federal Register.

We are just Tax ID numbers and withholding cash cows they milk.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on September 12, 2013 at 4:22 PM

The Republican majority in the House are either Republicans or they are not. They are not acting like Republicans.

What is so hard about not funding Obama Care? The American people oppose Obama (doesn’t) Care. It is killing jobs. Certainly the Republican base who elected these guys oppose Obama (doesn’t) Care.

The current Republican Leadership:

Will not defund Obama (doesn’t) Care.
Is actively working to destroy any chance of ever obtaining a conservative majority my granting amnesty to illegal aliens.
They refuse to conduct a competent investigation into Benghazi.

I could go on. It makes me wonder which side they are on and I have concluded that they are on the wrong side.

If they continue on their present course they will shatter the party that elected them. The base will have no reason to support them. It is almost like they are asking the question: “Where else will the conservatives go?”

The obvious answer is: “Away”
I vote for “Primarying” all of the RINOs.

The Rock on September 12, 2013 at 4:22 PM

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canopfor on September 12, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Fools

txmomof6 on September 12, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Yep! Hobbits are in revolt…

“The Tea Party has had it with Republican leaders, abandoning the GOP in stunning numbers at a time when mainstream leaders are arguing for immigration reform and support for an attack on Syria.

A new Pew Research Center poll provided to Secrets on Wednesday found that just 27 percent of Republicans who agree with the Tea Party approve of Republican leaders in Congress. A whopping 71 percent disapprove…”

http://washingtonexaminer.com/tea-party-abandoning-gop-just-3-in-10-approve-of-republican-leadership/article/2535596?custom_click=rss

workingclass artist on September 12, 2013 at 4:24 PM

I have an answer – and a remedy – for folks like Durbin.

I’d be banned if I shared it, however.

Midas on September 12, 2013 at 4:27 PM

“If the Republican leaders keep giving in to the tea party and their impossible demands, they must be rooting for a shutdown,” Reid said.

Thanks Harry, I am.

hillsoftx on September 12, 2013 at 4:28 PM

The Republican majority in the House are either Republicans or they are not. They are not acting like Republicans.

What is so hard about not funding Obama Care? The American people oppose Obama (doesn’t) Care. It is killing jobs. Certainly the Republican base who elected these guys oppose Obama (doesn’t) Care.

The current Republican Leadership:

Will not defund Obama (doesn’t) Care.
Is actively working to destroy any chance of ever obtaining a conservative majority my granting amnesty to illegal aliens.
They refuse to conduct a competent investigation into Benghazi.

I could go on. It makes me wonder which side they are on and I have concluded that they are on the wrong side.

If they continue on their present course they will shatter the party that elected them. The base will have no reason to support them. It is almost like they are asking the question: “Where else will the conservatives go?”

The obvious answer is: “Away”
I vote for “Primarying” all of the RINOs.

The Rock on September 12, 2013 at 4:22 PM

I like your comment, but from where I sit, the problem is that they *are* acting like Republicans, and… well, that’s a bad thing.

And is why as a conservative I’ll not be voting for them again. I may vote for an individual or two who also happen to have an ‘R’ after their name (though the party is making that even more sketchy lately), but vote for the ‘party’? Never. Not again.

Midas on September 12, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Cantor assumed that you are all stupid.

He is NO different than the leftists, who think that all their constituents are sheepleton.

Schadenfreude on September 12, 2013 at 4:03 PM

they are all leftists in DC leadership. the idea that because Cantor has an R next to his name means he isn’t a leftist is absurd.

unseen on September 12, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Is anyone else tired of the same old story being delivered year after year? This is not a slap at our hosts at HotAir but just the general way these things work. Or don’t work. It is incredibly stupid and I believe qualifies of Einstein’s definition of insanity. Consider how much influence these idiots have over our lives.

Cindy Munford on September 12, 2013 at 4:39 PM

Cantor snuggles up to Tea Party-elected congressmen like Renee Ellmers and poisons their soul into the establishment.

He must go.

Valiant on September 12, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Valiant on September 12, 2013 at 4:40 PM

totally disappointed in Ellmers hope someone primaries her.

unseen on September 12, 2013 at 4:43 PM

No CR period!!! Pass a damn budget and let the Senate squirm.

meci on September 12, 2013 at 4:06 PM

THIS!!! This is the only thing that the House should be concentrating on. No more CRs – Pass a budget as required by the Constitution.

RoadRunner on September 12, 2013 at 4:43 PM

The government will be shut down, Republicans will be blamed by all but 35% of the citizenry, government workers will get paid for days off while the Republicans took a beating in the polls and ended up signing off on a CR but not until millions of dollars lost on nonsense. This is a no win situation.

bopbottle on September 12, 2013 at 4:44 PM

i have a feeling that the RINO part of the R party likes obamacare. I think that they were rather happy they didn’t have to vote on it, given the dirty way in which it was passed.

however, if the Senate had been 52 D and 48 R they would have let it thru…and a few would have joined obama.

This type of pol is happy to Not have to ‘lead’. Let history unfold…and they’ll weigh in to their local TV station…but they don’t want to be out front…too dangerous.

And now that its done, they can get back to important things like money and padding their hometown network so they can get a school named after them…for the sake of their own immortality

this is not new, but they need to be called out…like McCain has been. They should be repudiated by their own local people

r keller on September 12, 2013 at 4:45 PM

adding that ”obviously” a majority of that group want to see a government shutdown

Actually, Dick, we don’t. This is because all that “mandatory” spending in Øbamacare happens during a shutdown. If we defund it, it does not.

Kafir on September 12, 2013 at 4:56 PM

“There are a lot of discussions going on about how to deal with the [continuing resolution] and the issue of ObamaCare, so we’re continuing to work with our members,” Boehner (R-Ohio) said at a Capitol press conference. …

Isn’t it amazing how a continuing resolution is just accepted as the norm these days? How about having some discussions on an honest to goodness, constitutionally required actual budget you morons?

xblade on September 12, 2013 at 5:00 PM

i have a feeling that the RINO part of the R party likes obamacare. I think that they were rather happy they didn’t have to vote on it, given the dirty way in which it was passed.

however, if the Senate had been 52 D and 48 R they would have let it thru…and a few would have joined obama.

This type of pol is happy to Not have to ‘lead’. Let history unfold…and they’ll weigh in to their local TV station…but they don’t want to be out front…too dangerous.

And now that its done, they can get back to important things like money and padding their hometown network so they can get a school named after them…for the sake of their own immortality

this is not new, but they need to be called out…like McCain has been. They should be repudiated by their own local people

r keller on September 12, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Exhibit A – Mitt Romney as the 2012 nominee. Exhibit B – Medicare Part D.

They rather like the concept of PlaceboCare – they just don’t like the current execution (except for their illegal subsidy).

Steve Eggleston on September 12, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Cantor should stand back and let the shut down squad fall flat on their faces. They are not serious anyway.

Terrye on September 12, 2013 at 5:10 PM

“I sometimes sympathize with Speaker Boehner, but the fact of the matter is, if he wants to lead for the good of this nation he has to step beyond the tea party faction in his caucus,” the Illinois Democrat said. “If he would call our farm bill on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives, it would pass. I believe if he called our immigration bill on the floor of the House of Representatives, it would pass. If he would call on the floor a basic funding level of the Senate budget resolution, it would pass.”

If the Senate would pass some sort of budget as required by the laws of this nation it and one iteration of the several budgets passed by the House could go to committee and the proper procedures for passing a budget in the Congress could be followed and we’d go on about our business.

But of course that would entail taking the baseline back to before Stimulis-mania, and no one on your side of the aisle wants that.

I’m sorry, did I steal a talking point from the Speaker of the House? That’s okay John, you have my permission to use it.

Tenwheeler on September 12, 2013 at 5:16 PM

We do not need a new CR.

We require a budget.

If government has to shut down in order to finally after six years get a Constitutionally demanded budget, then so be it.

Another CR?

Stupidity on steroids.

And, the House has the power, today, to defund all sorts of government projects, departments and activities.

Instead, all we get is more Kabuki, and pretty substandard Kabuki, at that.

coldwarrior on September 12, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Cantor is a snake and can’t be trusted!!

jeglinas on September 12, 2013 at 5:24 PM

We are not the minority of the party. The sooner Bonehead realizes that and stops listening to the likes of Reid and other Dems the better off we will be. Let the thing shut down. Its a myth that the Repubs paid a price for a government shutdown last time it was done, they actually picked up seats. The Tea Party isn’t the problem here, cowardice of establishment RINOs is. De Fund this monstrosity now and in 2014 the Dems will be in deep kimchee. Cave and watch the Dems take over again like it was the first two years of Obamas term.

neyney on September 12, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Cantor should stand back and let the shut down squad fall flat on their faces. They are not serious anyway.

Terrye on September 12, 2013 at 5:10 PM

The two of you can change your party affiliation to Democrat and that will settle your problem.

RickB on September 12, 2013 at 6:06 PM

SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN!

GarandFan on September 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM

The ENTIRE gop leadership team in both houses should RESIGN IMMEDIATELY because in two words…..they suck!

…..on too many issues they are ineffective, and in fact ENABLING their Progressive kindred spirit Barack Obama.

DEFUND OBAMACARE, and STOP PUSHING AMNESTY you clowns!

http://atomicgator.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/asdfadf.jpg

PappyD61 on September 12, 2013 at 6:16 PM

The ENTIRE gop leadership team in both houses should RESIGN IMMEDIATELY because in two words…..they suck!

PappyD61 on September 12, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Primary and replace. Sadly, there are quite a few squishy voters.

Fallon on September 12, 2013 at 6:20 PM

“Continuing resolutions” are *NOT* in The Constitution…

SouthernGent on September 12, 2013 at 6:55 PM

I sometimes sympathize with Speaker Boehner, but the fact of the matter is, if he wants to lead for the good of this nation he has to step beyond the tea party faction in his caucus

The Tea Party faction of his caucus is the only faction in Washington, D.C. that may care about the good of this nation.

Chris of Rights on September 12, 2013 at 7:12 PM

Shut the fscker down. Who’d notice – sun’s still gonna come up in the east, and the rain’s still gonna fall. The same blowhard politicos will make the same speaches. Over. And. Over.

bofh on September 12, 2013 at 7:49 PM

speeches. Damn. PIMF.

bofh on September 12, 2013 at 7:50 PM

Hot Air seems to want to ignore this issue, by putting few posts up about it just as it is beginning to heat up and Cruz’s grassroots tsunami is building steam, probably because they agree with Boehner and Cantor. For crying out loud the NY Times had a piece today quoting Union leaders as saying if it can’t be fixed then OCare should be repealed. Here is one of the comments posted after the article from a guy in New Jersey,

This is exactly what is happening. I believe it was a factor in my being laid off earlier this year. (I will probably pay the fine, if I have any money left, but chances are I’ll just let them come and throw me in jail. You can’t get blood from a stone.)

More and more people are seeing this is a bad law. Although there are so many reasons to hate it, I think the reason at the top of my list is that it puts me, a lifelong liberal Democrat, in the position of rooting for the right-wing Republicans who pledge to keep trying to repeal it.

Boehner and Cantor think the tea party is the problem instead of seeing that the American people want to defund ObamaCare. With the pulse on the opinion of the American that they have (see Syria) I guess I should just put my faith and trust in them….NOT.

txmomof6 on September 12, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Boehner and Cantor should just go ahead with an 18 mo CR to get them into 2015, slap on a massive 3 trillion debt ceiling hike, toss in the senate immigration bill, and pass it with all the Democrats and the handfull of ‘elite’ Republicans!

That’ll teach those Tea Party hobbits to just shut up already!

Freddy on September 12, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Boehner and Cantor think the tea party is the problem instead of seeing that the American people want to defund ObamaCare. With the pulse on the opinion of the American that they have (see Syria) I guess I should just put my faith and trust in them….NOT.

txmomof6 on September 12, 2013 at 8:59 PM

I think there is more to it … the GOP HOR members who are connected to the Healthcare industry lobbyists appear to me to be the ones who are stalling, trying to deceive and arguing against the DEFUND option

Pate Sessions blew his stack (behind closed doors) at Ted Cruz, because Cruz EXPOSED the deceptive tactic he and Cantor were planning

it was more chicanery, where HOR could have voted early for a CR with DEFUND, but then the plan was to have the Senate put the Obamacare funding back in

thus the HOR members would have been in the clear with their employers back home

Cruz exposed this backroom dealing tactic and his fellow Texan exploded, … not holding back his contempt

is there any doubt whatsoever toward whom, Ted Cruz’ FIRST ALLEGIANCE is always given?

WE THE PEOPLE

Be worthy of this man’s leadership Conservative America … work your butts off in this DEFUND fight, just like ‘he’ is doing

exodus2011 on September 12, 2013 at 9:47 PM

go to redstate to get the real ‘inside’ story on this so-called ‘clean’ CR issue

Villains = Pete Sessions, Eric Cantor

Fearless Champion for WE The People = Ted Cruz

exodus2011 on September 12, 2013 at 9:52 PM

I just sent him a note offering to fund whomever primaries him.

rgranger on September 12, 2013 at 11:21 PM

Democrats cry like babies when they have to abide by rules they make.

This is the Hassert Rule. A majority of the majority must be for any bill that passes. Nancy Pelosi never once buckled.

John evidently has far less fortitude than Nancy.

Steveangell on September 12, 2013 at 11:40 PM

We are not the minority of the party. The sooner Bonehead realizes that and stops listening to the likes of Reid and other Dems the better off we will be. Let the thing shut down. Its a myth that the Repubs paid a price for a government shutdown last time it was done, they actually picked up seats. The Tea Party isn’t the problem here, cowardice of establishment RINOs is. De Fund this monstrosity now and in 2014 the Dems will be in deep kimchee. Cave and watch the Dems take over again like it was the first two years of Obamas term.

neyney on September 12, 2013 at 5:31 PM

I AGREE!!!

The choice is NOT between “shutting government down” and funding Obamacare.

The choice is between “shutting Obamacare down” and “shutting the entire country down“!!! This country cannot function if all of the jobs vanish, all of our money is confiscated by the government, all of our privacy is violated, and we are forced to put up with whatever medical treatments some faceless government bureaucrat says we should have!!!

Shutting the government down for awhile in order to save the country is WELL WORTH IT!!!

landlines on September 13, 2013 at 6:24 PM