McCain: Maybe Obama should go ahead and bomb Assad without Congress’s approval

posted at 4:01 pm on September 11, 2013 by Allahpundit

A little taste of what might have been during a McCain presidency.

The senior Republican acknowledged the decision would be a difficult one, but he said he did not think members of his own party would try to remove President Obama from office if he acted in the vital national interest.

“They’re not going to impeach the president. They’re not that crazy,” he told reporters after the event…

“I think that, one, that the president of the United States should go back, if this fails, this Russian initiative, and convince the American people again,” McCain said. “Then I think the president has to decide what’s in our vital national interest.”

“If he launched an attack on Syria without the endorsement of Congress, it would be vastly more complicated if Congress had already acted. If he acted without the agreement of Congress, you could make the argument before the resolution was passed … that he is acting as other president have.”

Didn’t McCain himself disingenuously endorse impeachment if Obama decided to put boots on the ground in Syria? If he’s willing to impeach over using ground troops, which might be a logical strategic step if the U.S. launches an attack and then things escalate, why is it crazy to impeach him for defying the will of Congress and the public to launch the war in the first place?

I went to the Journal’s website to look for video of what he said but couldn’t find the bit quoted above. What I did find is Maverick saying that O either should have bombed Assad straightaway or sought approval from Congress without first stating that he’d decided as commander-in-chief that a strike was necessary. He’s quick to note, though, that presidents, among them Ronald Reagan, have been bombing first and seeking approval later for ages with little objection from Republicans. That’s his (obligatory) jab at Rand Paul, of course, which conveniently sidesteps the question of whether there should have been objection in previous cases. Presumably, by McCain’s logic, Republicans are bound to sign off on waterboarding if Obama brings it back because they’ve supported it before, after all. He also notes that the War Powers Act authorizes the president to bomb without permission for a short time before coming to Congress for authorization. That’s true — if there’s “a national emergency created by attack upon the United States.” Otherwise, per the Act, there needs to be a declaration of war or an AUMF. If McCain thinks the Act is unconstitutional because it steps on the president’s Article II prerogatives as commander-in-chief, that’s fine, but then I don’t know why he thinks it was okay for O to come to Congress before an attack. Effectively, he wants the president to decide when the country goes to war. You would think that institutional pride, if nothing else, would push a guy who’s been in the Senate for nearly 30 years to not want the chamber reduced to the level of a rubber stamp whose disapproval can be ignored if need be. But here we are.

Naturally, his sidekick Lindsey Graham is gung ho for this idea too:

LINDSEY GRAHAM: You know, there’s probably a reason 225 times presidents didn’t come to Congress. I don’t know if I’d come to talk with us. Quite frankly. The president has mismanaged this from day one about what we’re trying to do, the goals we’re trying to achieve. I think he made an unbelievably compelling case that we need to act here and compare that to the unbelievably small response we’re going to give.

So at the end of the day, if I were the president I would act after this speech if diplomacy fell apart and I wouldn’t come back to Congress.

JESSICA YELLIN: Do you think he –

GRAHAM: Because if he does his credibility as a world leader is completely shot. You can’t address the world and talk to your enemies and your friends in the tone he did and do nothing.

McCain also revealed that he’s having dinner tonight with Ted Cruz(!). Oh, and he dismissed Russia’s proposal on Syria, which has now been written up and is in U.S. hands, as a stalling tactic. Which, unfortunately, is true.


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There are some days I’m actually glad that McCain didn’t win.

We’d get a lot of the worst of Obama, and the GOP would go right along with it, rather than the timid fighting that they’re doing now.

Chris of Rights on September 11, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Obama never needed approval from Congress to bomb a country.

faraway on September 11, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Can Colorado recall this dummie also?

birdwatcher on September 11, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Glad this guy was not elected president.

jake49 on September 11, 2013 at 4:05 PM

McCain, the American answer to insanity. Why does any one care what this pos has to say. He would stab you in the back for a penny.

jainphx on September 11, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Maybe instead of bombing Syria we should recall McCain and Graham.

Rip Ford on September 11, 2013 at 4:06 PM

This guy is a nutcase.

JellyToast on September 11, 2013 at 4:06 PM

The GOP would be better off asking Obama why he has abandoned the children that were gassed.

faraway on September 11, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Do you duty AZ.

Boot this fool out of Office.

CO did it, so can you.

TX-96 on September 11, 2013 at 4:07 PM

McCain is certifiable.

workingclass artist on September 11, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Somebody somewhere posted a map of all the countries he has said we needed to bomb. It was like half the world.

Oh.. here it is..

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/09/john-mccain-world-attack-map-syria

JellyToast on September 11, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Okay…..

where’s a Joe Biden gaffe when you need one…?

ted c on September 11, 2013 at 4:09 PM

The prominence of McCain and Ms. Graham is the result of a power vacuum in the Republican party. I’m glad that Senators like Cruz and Paul are trying to correct this problem, but it might take time.

joejm65 on September 11, 2013 at 4:10 PM

So the Russian plan is just a stalling tactic.

Now watcha gonna do, Dog Eater, warm up the Spirits or give Asswad more time while you play host to Beyonce and Jayz?

Bishop on September 11, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Speaking of Dummies, from my State of New Hampshire, which elected O’bama twice…

Man wearing Obama mask robs bank

MERRIMACK, N.H. —A Newport man wearing a President Barack Obama mask robbed a bank in Merrimack on Wednesday, police said.

Merrimack police said a man walked into the Bank of America at 356 Daniel Webster Highway dressed in an Obama mask, suit jacket tie and jeans, and demanded money from a teller.

The teller complied, and the robber left the bank on foot with an undetermined amount of money.

Police said they were able to determine what direction the robber left, and an officer spotted a man matching the robber’s physical description coming from behind a business in the Columbia Circle area.

Typical Low-IQ Democrat Voter…

Del Dolemonte on September 11, 2013 at 4:11 PM

McCain also revealed that he’s having dinner tonight with Ted Cruz(!).

Ted…You’ve got to stop sounding like a commie whackadoodling hobbit Teapartier from Texas…We Have To Bomb Syria so We can Bomb Iran – John McCain

Check Please…You’re really certifiable John. – Ted Cruz

workingclass artist on September 11, 2013 at 4:11 PM

WEll OK then.
Obama asks Congress to delay on voting so he can take action BEFORE they vote.

And McCain says this is OK ?

WOW ! Just plain WOW !

Jabberwock on September 11, 2013 at 4:11 PM

Alternate headline:

“McCain embraces 2008 Atlantic warmonger cover”

JB-STLMO on September 11, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Assad.

The genius of AP – always appreciated!

22044 on September 11, 2013 at 4:12 PM

This guy is insane.

Tasha on September 11, 2013 at 4:13 PM

AllahP

I found audio, sorry its from Huffpo.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/06/john-mccain-obama-impeach_n_3880997.html

MontanaMmmm on September 11, 2013 at 4:13 PM

If Obama had a white father, he’d look like John McCain.

22044 on September 11, 2013 at 4:14 PM

McCain has never seen a country he doesn’t want to bomb. Heck, he’d probably be up for bombing Arizona too if he thought it would make the media love him.

SteveThomas on September 11, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Hmmm…

Elizabeth O’Bagy, the woman quoted by Kerry and McCain for attacking Syria, is fired for lying

http://youngcons.com/elizabeth-obagy-the-woman-quoted-by-kerry-and-mccain-for-attacking-syria-is-fired-for-lying/

Fallon on September 11, 2013 at 4:14 PM

McCain also revealed that he’s having dinner tonight with Ted Cruz

Correction, McCain wants to bomb Ted Cruz tonight at dinner time.

faraway on September 11, 2013 at 4:15 PM

Wackobird…

PatriotRider on September 11, 2013 at 4:16 PM

McCain brings up Grenada. Grenada was not the same at all. There’s no way it would turn into a quagmire. Having a Soviet presence in the Carribean actually does threaten the US. Additionally Reagan had the excuse he was protecting American students …ya, a little flimsy, they chose to go there, but they were there.

Plus it wasn’t stupid.

Fenris on September 11, 2013 at 4:16 PM

McInsane as president.

NotCoach on September 11, 2013 at 4:17 PM

McCain has never seen a country he doesn’t want to bomb. Heck, he’d probably be up for bombing Arizona too if he thought it would make the media love him.

SteveThomas on September 11, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Or if he thought he might lose an election.

Fenris on September 11, 2013 at 4:17 PM

McCain voters in Arizona should be ashamed of themselves! He is a despicable Al Qaeda/Muslim Brotherhood supporting traitor!

FloatingRock on September 11, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Elizabeth O’Bagy, the woman quoted by Kerry and McCain for attacking Syria, is fired for lying

Fallon on September 11, 2013 at 4:14 PM

She is being discredited so Kerry/Obama can say they were lied to.

faraway on September 11, 2013 at 4:17 PM

McCain is the only reason I didn’t vote for Palin in ’08.

FloatingRock on September 11, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Sure John bomb Assad for your Islamist rebel friends across the aisle….

Don L on September 11, 2013 at 4:18 PM

There are idiots and just below that is McCain!

Pardonme on September 11, 2013 at 4:19 PM

I’m torn. I’ve very happy McCain never became president. I’m very unhappy that Tweedledum did. At least Tweedledum might wake the country up to the dangers of “progressivism”.

SteveThomas on September 11, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Just shut up already McClown!

jeglinas on September 11, 2013 at 4:22 PM

McCain & Graham need to resign.

rbj on September 11, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Go back to playing your on-line poker you old fool…

PatriotRider on September 11, 2013 at 4:23 PM

I wish people would stop calling McCain a maverick and call him what he really is, namely a RINO!!!!
Him and Lindsay Graham both are one step away from pulling an Arlen Specter and switch parties!
And this is why I don’t trust either of them!

pilamaye on September 11, 2013 at 4:24 PM

McCain got duped a second time recently, by al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood…with the help of a 26 year old woman with the last name of – O’Bagy. Another lying liberal – like Joseph C. Wilson IV and Dan Rather – who gets away with helping America’s enemies when it suits the Democratic party and liberal agendas.

Karmi on September 11, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Thankful every day that McCain is not the president. And I voted for him.

myrenovations on September 11, 2013 at 4:26 PM

If it were Obama v. McCain tomorrow, I think I’d write in the name of my parakeet.

EddieC on September 11, 2013 at 4:26 PM

There comes a point when people, all people, should retire. In the case of John McCain that time is overdue.

His judgement isn’t what it once was and he’s trying to direct the course of the nation from the position of senator, an office he’s held far too long, assuming the role of Secretary of Defense and Secretary of State, usurping the position of president.

Retire McCain. The nation would be grateful.

thatsafactjack on September 11, 2013 at 4:28 PM

Great speech on Foreign Policy by Ted Cruz:

Live: http://therightscoop.com/watch-live-4pm-et-sen-ted-cruz-gives-major-foreign-policy-speech/

bluefox on September 11, 2013 at 4:28 PM

You don’t threaten to bomb someone, then go to Congress and then say it isn’t a National Emergency… and then go and bomb them anyways.

That makes no sense at all.

Of course that is John McCain’s logic and he is making no sense at all.

ajacksonian on September 11, 2013 at 4:28 PM

A little water on the face of Terrorists, scaring them is horrible illegal torture, but McCain is jumping at the chance to kill and/or permanently main hundreds or thousands?

John, go back to one of your homes, have a cool drink and chill out.

RJL on September 11, 2013 at 4:29 PM

Between John and Meghan it’s obvious that Cindy is the brains in that family.

myiq2xu on September 11, 2013 at 4:29 PM

There is something wrong with McCain. I can’t believe I voted for him. I should have known when he issued himself a “stand down” order and started to talk up Obama. Palin was enough to go ahead and push the button for him.

Mimzey on September 11, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Take away his meds, he’s round the bend!

tomshup on September 11, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Now watcha gonna do, Dog Eater…

Bishop on September 11, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Giving the senescent senator a pass, then?

wolfsDad on September 11, 2013 at 4:31 PM

To be honest I was against any intervention before the “Russian Rescue” and now I am coming around. It took 7-8 years to account for all of Libya’s WMDs and there was no civil war going on, so I find it pretty insulting that Obama is allowing Putin to accept an accidental offer/blunder (one week) that cannot possibly be carried out. A limited strike now (like, tonight) would set us on equal footing at the bargaining table. “We will talk, but you have to pay for the privilege” should be Obama’s mindset, but it’s not because he is a naked fawn in a big, scary forest. I’m starting to come around to the notion that one man really can ruin the credibility of every American and that something, no matter how “unbelievably small” it is, must be done. I made a joke on another blog last night that any nuclear engineers should try Tehran, and low and behold today it’s announced that Russia will build them another nuclear plant in addition to supplying more conventional missiles. Assad and Putin are having their cake, eating it, and having a hearty laugh at our embarrassing excuse for a president.

stout77 on September 11, 2013 at 4:32 PM

I can’t say it enough…

War Powers Resolution Act

50 U.S.C. § 1541 – Purpose and policy

(a) Congressional declaration

It is the purpose of this chapter to fulfill the intent of the framers of the Constitution of the United States and insure that the collective judgment of both the Congress and the President will apply to the introduction of United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, and to the continued use of such forces in hostilities or in such situations.

(b) Congressional legislative power under necessary and proper clause

Under article I, section 8, of the Constitution, it is specifically provided that the Congress shall have the power to make all laws necessary and proper for carrying into execution, not only its own powers but also all other powers vested by the Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any department or officer hereof.

(c) Presidential executive power as Commander-in-Chief; limitation

The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to:

(1) a declaration of war,

(2) specific statutory authorization, or

(3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.

Has Syria declared war on the United States?

No, but AQ has and it is part of the ‘rebels’ of whom we are asked to arm and assist.

Is there yet any specific statutory authorisation for airstrikes on Syria?

No.

Has a national emergency been created by an attack from Syria upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces?

Nope.

So, f*ck off, Senator Insane McVain!

Resist We Much on September 11, 2013 at 4:37 PM

“I think that, one, that the president of the United States should go back, if this fails, this Russian initiative, and convince the American people again,” McCain said.

“again”? LOL.

McShame lives in his own personal hellhole – where he belongs. He’s a turd. A treasonous turd. A treasonous lunatic of a turd … or the turd of a treasonous lunatic …

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 11, 2013 at 4:37 PM

‘I feel very badly for my friends in the Free Syrian Army today.’

- Senator Insane McVain

His friends?

These guys?

Senator Insane McVain: Proving That You Can Turn ‘New Hotness’ Into ‘Old & Busted’ In The Space Of Two Hours

Resist We Much on September 11, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Just like predicted the leftist fools now claim that “obama is just like Kennedy”.

Idiots, those were real bombs, and the Russians really retreated…plus, Putin is a cunning thug. Wake up, idiots and liars.

———–
Sophie, this is for you.

Schadenfreude on September 11, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Pentagon officials estimate that extreme Islamist groups now constitute ‘MORE THAN 50 PERCENT’ of the rebel force, ‘AND IT’S GROWING BY THE DAY.’

Why We Should Be Skeptical About The Claims From Kerry And McCain That The ‘Moderate’ Syrian Rebels Are Ascendant

‘Cuz, like, um, ya know, this sounds so ‘moderate’ or something…

Syrian Rebels: BIBLES are “More Dangerous Than Chemical Weapons”…

Since when did McVain become ANTI-Israel?

‘Israel is an enemy country. I say this loud and clear. It occupies Syrian lands. The FSA will not change its position regarding that country before it withdraws from the Syrian lands, and recognises the legitimate rights of the Arab Palestinian people.’

Brigadier General Salim Idris, Chief of Staff of the US-backed Supreme Military Council of the Free Syrian Army

Since when did people, who do thinks like this, become ‘moderates’?

* Abu Osama al Tunisi, the Commander of the Syrian Free Army, pledged allegiance to and said that SFA members were joining al Qaeda; and,

* Colonel Abdul Jabbar al-Okaidi, the head of the United States-backed opposition’s Syrian Free Army, appeared in a video alongside Abu Jandal, a leader of the Al-Qaeda-affiliated Islamic State in Iraq and Syria; and,

* 4 out of 5 Syrian Free Army commanders have demanded that they be able to work with al Qaeda; and,

* Syrian rebels have admitted (and the UN has agreed) that they have used chemical weapons; and,

* The rebels are into cannibalism and beheadings; and,

* The ‘moderate’ rebels have attacked the predominantly Christian village of Ma’aloula, which is home to some of the most ancient Orthodox Christian relics, a major pilgrimage destination, and is on the UNESCO list of tentative world heritage sites – all of which has caused the community of Trappistine nuns to condemn Obama for his silence on the atrocities being committed upon Christians ‘despite all justice, all common sense, all mercy, all humility, all wisdom;’ and,

* They have been committing documented atrocities all over Syria.

Those would be the same ‘moderate’ Syrian rebels that you want to aid, assist, and arm.

So, tell us, Senator Insane McVain, why should we believe that they are ‘moderate’ when they are quite obviously not?

BTW, how’s your friend, Mohammed Morsi, doing?

Resist We Much on September 11, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Naturally, his sidekick Lindsey Graham is gung ho for this idea too:

Ms. Lindsey is under 50% already. May this really dig her in.

Schadenfreude on September 11, 2013 at 4:44 PM

“They’re not going to impeach the president. They’re not that crazy,” he told reporters after the event…

One reason Republican leadership isn’t taken seriously is because they gravel to this nutter while he continues to jab at them.

aryeung on September 11, 2013 at 4:45 PM

There comes a point when people, all people, should retire. In the case of John McCain that time is overdue.

Absolutely. Long overdue – he needed to retire in 2008. But instead we get him, the whackadoodle Meghan, and Lindsey far too often across the airwaves reminding everyone that they are part of the problem, not part of the solutions.

They’re nearly as narcissistic as Obama.

Athos on September 11, 2013 at 4:49 PM

She is being discredited so Kerry/Obama can say they were lied to.

faraway on September 11, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Or, because she was exposed last week. (Not in the Weiner way, but it was revealed that she was the Mata Hari behind the, laughable to everyone but McCain, “Syrian rebels are moderates” push.)

Fallon on September 11, 2013 at 4:55 PM

John McCain – he speaks for the interests of all those in Arizona. So Arizona wants to go to war? Is this the will of the Arizona State Legislature? Oh wait, the 17th Amendment changed that so now he represents the central party in DC.

batterup on September 11, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Give McCain and Graham the Packwood treatment.

meci on September 11, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Senility is a horrible thing.

kingsjester on September 11, 2013 at 5:02 PM

McCain could fly planes decades ago. He wasn’t so hot at it as he crashed about 4 of them, but they say you never forget so maybe he could check one out and fly for al Qaeda as he wants so much to help them.

VorDaj on September 11, 2013 at 5:07 PM

McCain also revealed that he’s having dinner tonight with Ted Cruz

Dining with the enemy. Watch out Ted!

txhsmom on September 11, 2013 at 5:08 PM

If Obama had a white father, he’d look like John McCain.

22044 on September 11, 2013 at 4:14 PM

And Miss Lindsey would look like his sister.

VorDaj on September 11, 2013 at 5:10 PM

And Miss Lindsey would look like his sister.

VorDaj on September 11, 2013 at 5:10 PM

The Bobbsey Twins!

ajacksonian on September 11, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Recall this guy!

GardenGnome on September 11, 2013 at 5:13 PM

“Then I think the president has to decide what’s in our vital national interest.”

Has anyone convincingly explained how bombing Syria serves our vital national interest?

onlineanalyst on September 11, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Enough McCain . . .you appear to be lost in a thick fog without a compass or a map. We’re broke, tired and unwilling to endure anymore of your political wars.

rplat on September 11, 2013 at 5:19 PM

The official Syrian rebel position supported by Muslim clergy is that it is their right to rape all non-Sunni women in their path. Do Obama and McCain really want to support rape?

talkingpoints on September 11, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Hey Arizona! gramps fell out of bed again!

DanMan on September 11, 2013 at 5:23 PM

McVain is an idiot, isn’t he? He simply doesn’t realize that Obama no longer has the power to do much of anything. Putin knows more about Obama than McVain, and Putin will decide when,or if, anyone starts bombing Syria. At this stage I’m just hoping we can get Putin involved in the effort to defund Obamacare.

MTF on September 11, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Has anyone convincingly explained how bombing Syria serves our vital national interest?

I can confirm the guy that is in charge and gets to make the decision didn’t come close to making his case last night. As a matter of fact he explicitly stated he wanted to wait and let diplomacy work.

DanMan on September 11, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Has anyone convincingly explained how bombing Syria serves our vital national interest?

onlineanalyst on September 11, 2013 at 5:18 PM

In Order to secure the region from Iran…We must ally with Al Qaeda to bomb Syria so that Iran will be so scared they will stop getting their nuclear bombs & hope Assad’s and Iran’s allies, Russia and China won’t get too upset by that cause Y’know…The Saudis will pay for it and this does nothing to diminish our integrity as a nation…and will somebody shut that Pope guy up cause he’s burning up twitter with his prayers and vigil nonsense…Look….I got this whole thing down and it will be over super fast. – President Obama

workingclass artist on September 11, 2013 at 5:32 PM

The official Syrian rebel position supported by Muslim clergy is that it is their right to rape all non-Sunni women in their path. Do Obama and McCain really want to support rape?

talkingpoints on September 11, 2013 at 5:23 PM

That would likely depend on if Whoopie decides it’s Rape Rape.

workingclass artist on September 11, 2013 at 5:34 PM

We were shipping arms from Libya though Turkey to Syria. Assad buys attack helicopters from Russia and uses them with a vengeance against his enemies. The “stolen” SAM-7 missiles were sent to level the playing field on Assad.

Who’s interest is being served by this Russian gambit?

Putin smoked Obama in this proxy war he was playing. That and the deaths of our fellow citizens working there are the fall out from Obama’s Benghazi charade. This is what happens when community organizers get the keys to the fortress.

DanMan on September 11, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Funny. I’m sure every one of you voted for him in 2008.

lostmotherland on September 11, 2013 at 5:42 PM

McCain is the only reason I didn’t vote for Palin in ’08.

FloatingRock on September 11, 2013 at 4:18 PM

she’s to blame for her being in office. she endorsed and even went and campaigned for him.

chasdal on September 11, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Laugh, laugh, laugh

Schadenfreude on September 11, 2013 at 5:50 PM

OK, John…you do that…be a forward observer out in Damascus, call in the shots.

WHY is he still in the Senate?????

His legacy of being that brave young man in Hanoi is fading fast.

Save what little is left of your dignity, John.

Go home.

coldwarrior on September 11, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Dang, I guess if you say it with high frequency, people start to believe it. Happened with obummercare why not this fiasco too?

LaughterJones on September 11, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Sophie, scroll down and capture the double-mouthed picture.

Schadenfreude on September 11, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Assad.

They should play some Vince Vance and the Valiants while doing so…

golfer1 on September 11, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Is there any doubt at this point that McCain is insane? HE should be recalled/impeached/institutionalized.

Midas on September 11, 2013 at 5:54 PM

OK, John…you do that…be a forward observer out in Damascus, call in the shots.

WHY is he still in the Senate?????

His legacy of being that brave young man in Hanoi is fading fast.

Save what little is left of your dignity, John.

Go home.

coldwarrior on September 11, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Incorrect – his legacy is *gone*.

His dignity is *gone*.

That bastard spent whatever honor he earned as a vet/POW long ago – long ago. All that remains is a shill for the left, a political Benedict Arnold to his constituents and his party, and a addle-brained idiot who does *NOT* have the best interests of his country in mind any longer. And has been that way for a long f*cking time.

Midas on September 11, 2013 at 5:57 PM

i always have the feeling McPain is punishing us because he lost.

or he’s just gone bat crap insane.

maybe both.

mittens on September 11, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Can the people of Arizona PLEASE get rid of John McCain?!

ooonaughtykitty on September 11, 2013 at 6:00 PM

wow this guy could have been president?? scary. (though obama as president is scary too)

Sachiko on September 11, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Can Colorado recall this dummie also?

birdwatcher on September 11, 2013 at 4:04 PM

See, now there is our thread winner. As lawless as our country is, at least from its poisonous little serpent head (PBUH), these are questions that deserve a double take – and second thoughts.

RushBaby on September 11, 2013 at 6:31 PM

McLame is showing early signs of Alzheimers

redguy on September 11, 2013 at 6:34 PM

lostmotherland on September 11, 2013 at 5:42 PM

hey lady, who did you vote for?

DanMan on September 11, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Obama never needed approval from Congress to bomb a country.

faraway on September 11, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Yes, in fact he did and does, and I will keep posting this as long as necessary.

50 U.S.C. § 1541 – Purpose and policy

Current through Pub. L. 113-31. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)
(a) Congressional declaration

It is the purpose of this chapter to fulfill the intent of the framers of the Constitution of the United States and insure that the collective judgment of both the Congress and the President will apply to the introduction of United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, and to the continued use of such forces in hostilities or in such situations.
(b) Congressional legislative power under necessary and proper clause

Under article I, section 8, of the Constitution, it is specifically provided that the Congress shall have the power to make all laws necessary and proper for carrying into execution, not only its own powers but also all other powers vested by the Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any department or officer hereof.

(c) Presidential executive power as Commander-in-Chief; limitation
The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to

(1) a declaration of war,

(2) specific statutory authorization, or

(3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.

Does he have any one of items 1 through 3?

No, he does not. Further there is nothing in Syria Vital to teh interests of the United States, regardless of Obama’s and this crazy old coo saying it.

Saying it don’t make it so.

dogsoldier on September 11, 2013 at 6:49 PM

Can Colorado recall this dummie also?

birdwatcher on September 11, 2013 at 4:04 PM

WE can’t, and to be honest we are a little tired and will probably take a couple of days off to celebrate. And watch to see if the Democrats pull some Scheiss to overturn the election.

It is up to Arizona, and they have the tools. It is built into the Arizona state constitution; and I believe that as a condition of appearing on the ballot in the first place, any candidate has to sign an agreement to abide by a recall.

http://www.azsos.gov/election/IRR/Initiative_Referendum_and_Recall.pdf

“Every public officer holding an elective office by election or appointment is subject to recall.” from page one of the above.

I believe that Arizona has a TEA Party ……

Subotai Bahadur on September 11, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Sometimes I think that silence would be the better part of discretion.

The President has always had the capability of ordering the military to do something with Congressional authorization or not. He is the Commander in Chief. The only real response that Congress can take, given a sufficiently aggregious situation, is to impeach and if it was even a real possibility it would be excruciatingly obvious. They could also cut off funding, but then have to possibly override a veto — if they could do that with any assurance then impeachment would be possible.

Extremely doubtful that any conventional response would engender, even if only remotely, such a significant Congressional response.

Russ808 on September 11, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Saving your face is not a just cause nor is aiding Islamists nor is intervening in a bloody civil war with an ‘incredibly small’ effort nor is claiming that we are for intervening everywhere, especially where there is no national security interest.

Just read it all:-) A pleasure as always! The 2 lips, LOL

bluefox on September 11, 2013 at 7:54 PM

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