Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on September 10, 2013 by Allahpundit

“Why would you trust Assad,” Mitchell asked Heitkamp. “Assad has, until this initiative, denied there was an attack, denied he was part of it, denied he has chemical weapons. Why on earth would we trust this man to tell us he’s turned them all over to international monitoring and that he is signing a treaty that he’s never redesigned?”

“We’re not trusting Assad,” Heitkamp explained. “We’re trusting the Russians to come to the table…”

“Whoa,” Mitchell interjected. “You’re trusting the Russians?”

“We’re trusting Russia’s intent at this point to actually deliver the right set of circumstances,” Heitkamp clarified.

***

Their tense standoff, in many ways, is the outgrowth of previously undisclosed calculations about the level of U.S. interest in the civil war in Syria. In early 2012, White House and State Department officials asked themselves what the U.S. might be willing to do to wean Russia from its support of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. Curtail missile defenses in Europe? Pare plans to enlarge the North Atlantic Treaty Organization?

Their conclusion: These initiatives weren’t worth sacrificing for a deal on Syria, which was then lower on the foreign-policy priority list, say current and former officials who took part in the brainstorming exercise. Likewise, officials doubted such a gambit would work with a Russian leader whose motivations have confounded the U.S…

The idea of horse-trading with Russia didn’t go anywhere in 2012. Today, the official said, it isn’t an option either. Syria may be the “hot button issue of the day” but the White House still won’t link it to what it sees as more-permanent national-security issues, the senior White House official said.

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“It’s almost a case of whiplash here in Washington,” Baier reported. “Why isn’t this the U.S. proposal to solve the Syria chemical weapons deal? It is the Russian proposal.

“Why didn’t U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, Samantha Power, take to the United Nations Security Council a proposal exactly like this and steer the way?” Baier asked.

“Why didn’t, if the president, as he said to Chris Wallace and five other anchors, talked with Vladimir Putin about this at the G20 conference and that this idea is a continuation of that conversation, why hasn’t that even come up?” he continued.

“Several people I’ve talked to said this was all part of a grand scheme and that rollout was really a way that the administration could orchestrate this, and the Russians could steer the Syrians and all this kind of spin behind the scenes,” Baier revealed. “It’s just tough to stomach all of that watching how it transpired, and how much power Russia is now given on the world stage of steering this diplomatic effort.”

***

At this stage, though, here’s what Putin seems to have accomplished:

a) He has stalled and possibly ended the threat that his client thug, President Bashar al-Assad, will be struck by American missiles for gassing his own people. As long as the international community is debating the endless complications of finding, verifying and locking down Assad’s chemical arsenal, Congress and the allies have ample excuse to do nothing…

c) He has further demoralized the Syrian resistance, and strengthened the jihadi radicals among them, by demonstrating that American red lines mean little.

d) He has recast Russia – whose military helped the Assad dynasty create its chemical weapons program in the first place – as the global peacemaker…

f) While seeming to help President Obama out of a political fix, he has made the American president seem even more the captive of events. A president who once seemed sure-footed, combining prudent diplomacy with the occasional bold stroke (killing Osama bin Laden) now stands accused of being, as his Texan predecessor might have put it, all hat and no cattle. He vowed to bring the Benghazi killers to justice, to stand against the return of military rule in Egypt, to arm the rebels in Syria, to enforce a red line against weapons of mass destruction. So far, he has accomplished none of the above.

***

Oddly enough, Putin’s strategy is both ideological and rooted in self-interest. Essentially, Russia strongly opposes any kind of international intervention in a nation’s internal affairs because Putin fears that, one day, that logic may be applied to Russia and its satellites. Russia and China are great, multi-ethnic empires. Both, unsurprisingly, see the post-Cold War theory of the international community’s “responsibility to protect”—known to diplomats as R2P—as a direct threat to their ability to squash internal uprisings as well as a potential excuse for the West to meddle in their affairs. Think Chechnya or Tibet.

Putin is also, for obvious reasons, not a great fan of people-power democracy movements that overthrow corrupt, thieving elites. Thanks to a powerful combination of control of Russia’s vast oil wealth, and a personal ruthlessness honed by years in the KGB, Putin has so far been able to remain in power by imprisoning opponents and flooding his grassroots with State money. More important, he’s built a “power vertical” of loyal governors, police chiefs, and an army of subordinate bureaucrats whom he’s bound to the Kremlin in an unwritten pact: they are allowed to steal with impunity but must remain utterly loyal to Putin, the capo dei tutti capi…

Then there’s the question of respect on the international stage. Putin’s spinmeisters cast him as the man who made Russia a great power again. (He probably believes it himself—despite a slowing growth rate and a price collapse in Russia’s most valuable export, natural gas.) And one of the things the leaders of great powers do is stand up to the United States. For many years Russia opposed US sanctions against Iran (last year’s great threat to global peace)—even though a nuclear-armed Iran is every bit as much of a threat to Russia and its allies in the Caucasus as it is to the US and Israel. The Soviet Union was Washington’s great historic sparring partner; Putin is doing his best to make it so again.

***

This, in other words, is no light at the end of the tunnel. This, to borrow a phrase from a Congressional staffer at his wits’ end, “is an unmitigated clusterfuck.”…

There are two clear winners in this slow-motion train wreck, and they are not Obama or Kerry. They are Assad and Putin. Both wanted, for their own reasons, to avert a military strike, and a military strike was averted. Putin insisted on a diplomatic solution while doing everything to make a diplomatic solution impossible, and now he gets his phony, unenforceable diplomatic solution. Assad wanted to go on killing his opposition, and he will continue to do so.

Obama, on the other hand, found himself constantly check-mated, either by his own hand, or, this time, by Kerry’s. First, he drew a red line on chemical weapons, seemingly by accident. Then, he all but ignored chemical weapons use by Assad until the evidence forced itself on the world. Then he agonized on whether to act, while Dempsey and the Pentagon rolled him, leaking their military plans to anyone who would listen, “probably,” said one insider, “because they didn’t want to act.” Then, he talked about how limited the strikes would be, all while Assad moved his men and his guns into residential areas and the Russians moved their ships in. Then, out of nowhere, he decided to take it to Congress. “The president says that he’s going to launch strikes and then, suddenly, he’s going to Congress. It’s probably one of the more incredible things I’ve ever seen,” McCain told me. “We were all dumbfounded,” said another Senate staffer…

Obama, meanwhile, took off for Sweden, and, as the town halls roiled with anger, put off his address to the country for the following week. While abroad, he managed to further humiliate himself in the eyes of Putin, who already sees him as weak. Obama, having just called off his bilateral summit with Putin because Russia granted asylum to Edward Snowden, went ahead and met with Putin anyway. It was a pointless meeting—”We both stuck to our guns,” Putin said afterwards—but in Russia, the message was unmistakable: Putin is stronger, and Putin won.

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He got himself into it and now Vladimir Putin, who opposes U.S. policy in Syria and repeatedly opposed a strike, is getting him out. This would be coldly satisfying for Putin and no doubt personally galling for Obama—another reason he can’t look as if he’s lunging.

A serious foreign-policy intellectual said recently that Putin’s problem is that he’s a Russian leader in search of a Nixon, a U.S. president he can really negotiate with, a stone player who can talk grand strategy and the needs of his nation, someone with whom he can thrash it through and work it out. Instead he has Obama, a self-besotted charismatic who can’t tell the difference between showbiz and strategy, and who enjoys unburdening himself of moral insights to his peers.

But Putin has no reason to want a Syrian conflagration. He is perhaps amused to have a stray comment by John Kerry be the basis for a resolution of the crisis. The hidden rebuke: It means that when Putin met with Obama at the G-20 last week Obama, due to his lack of competence, got nothing. But a stray comment by the Secretary of State? Sure, why not rub Obama’s face in it.

***

Reset with Russia was originally a strategic priority for the Obama administration because it saw Moscow as the key to getting Iran to come to the negotiating table. Putin, from the White House’s perspective, was destined for the role of junior partner. Now Putin has turned “Reset” upside down. By helping Obama out of a jam with Syria, Putin has made himself the senior partner to whom the White House is now beholden. Accordingly, when Putin proposes the same sort of deal with Iran, with Russia having established its bona fides as an interlocutor for Syria, Obama is almost certain to jump at it…

Who knows what the Russians told Assad? For God’s sake, just say it’s your chemical weapons arsenal you’re turning over for safekeeping. Send them canisters of perfume, or cat urine. The Americans just want a deal, the president thinks he’s saving face. If the Americans are smart, they’ll let the whole thing drop and call it a win, but knowing them they’ll come back later and complain that you’re not keeping your end of the bargain. No problem. We’ll stall them. And then every time Obama whines it will remind your adversaries and U.S. allies around the world that the Americans are empty suits, a bunch of legalistic bureaucrats who are incapable of standing with their friends.

It’s hard not to be impressed with Putin. A man who up until yesterday seemed merely crass, has revealed himself to be capable of great subtlety. For years his method was so transparent, so obvious, his vulgarities intended to appall and shock the White House. He accused one secretary of state of plotting against him, and another he calls a liar. He gave Edward Snowden refuge. He dispatches his thugs to beat up LGBT teenagers. After a while, the administration learned not to be surprised by anything Putin does. He’s a bully, smitten with his own macho self-image. That’s all true, but now we see that Putin was testing Obama and looking for openings…

The Russian proposal not only saves Obama from having to do something about Syria, it also, and much more important, shows the way forward with Iran. From the White House’s point of view, its credible threat of force made Syria buckle and will similarly bring Iran to the negotiating table. Putin has shown his bona fides as a credible interlocutor with Damascus and will do the same with Iran. Obama can relax now and imagine that he has finally earned his Nobel Peace Prize and that that sound he hears is the tide of war receding.

***

From Russia’s perspective, this outcome also offers other benefits. Securing Syria’s chemical weapons stockpiles, let alone dismantling them, would be a time-consuming and difficult process that would only begin after the sketchy details of the proposal are clarified and approved by all sides. These delays, which could take months, would give Assad more time to crush the rebellion against him, says Konstantin Sivkov, a Russian military analyst who worked between 1995 and 2007 as a strategist for the Russian General Staff. Putin and his top officials have long maintained that a Syria without the Assad regime would be more dangerous than one with it…

Indeed, some Russian officials are enjoying their chance to help Obama find a way out of the Syrian crisis, which has caused the White House plenty of trouble at home and abroad. After the chemical weapons attacks near Damascus on August 21, “I think Obama regrets that he reacted so belligerently,” says a former officer of Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service, who holds the rank of Major General. “He’s losing face. So this is a chance for the Americans to step back from some of their threats,” he says, asking to remain anonymous.

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Via NRO.

***

“That’s where we are. In the United States of America, the most powerful country on earth. The Russians just threw a head fake and we bit.”

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thatsafactjack on September 11, 2013 at 12:56 AM

With the husband. Not to much anymore, all his friends sold their bikes and are getting classic cars. He sold his Road King last week but still has his Dyna.

Cindy Munford on September 11, 2013 at 1:02 AM

steebo77 on September 11, 2013 at 1:00 AM

All of them wearing raincoats.

Cindy Munford on September 11, 2013 at 1:03 AM

VorDaj on September 11, 2013 at 1:01 AM

Astonishing. Thanks.

thatsafactjack on September 11, 2013 at 1:03 AM

It’s heartening to know that in the Big Apple there are at least 31,000 voters who still like Weiner.

TXUS on September 11, 2013 at 12:58 AM

Most of them are probably dudes living in Chelsea or the West Village.

steebo77 on September 11, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Harlem.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 11, 2013 at 1:03 AM

Cindy Munford on September 11, 2013 at 1:02 AM

I’m glad he’s kept that one. :)

thatsafactjack on September 11, 2013 at 1:05 AM

Barky is isomorphic to a wet turd. In fact, there is a classification theorem that proves that all wet turds must be isomorphisms of the Indonesian Dog-Eater.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 11, 2013 at 12:55 AM

Heh. I think Putin making him change his normal dog diet for the turd sandwich.

Fenris on September 11, 2013 at 1:05 AM

Stop – Lonnie Mack

thatsafactjack on September 11, 2013 at 1:06 AM

New York City, you say?

That many.

Hmmm.

thatsafactjack on September 11, 2013 at 1:00 AM

I love it when you say, “Hmmm”. ;-)

TXUS on September 11, 2013 at 1:07 AM

TXUS on September 11, 2013 at 1:07 AM

Good evening, TXUS. :)

thatsafactjack on September 11, 2013 at 1:08 AM

9/11 is maddening, always will be.

Good Night and hate all day, every day for this one.

Schadenfreude on September 11, 2013 at 1:10 AM

Obama thinks his worries are over on this one.

However, Vlad is wondering what he’s going to do with all this new power. Or, worse, he’s already decided and is waiting for the right time.

PattyJ on September 11, 2013 at 1:10 AM

Schadenfreude on September 11, 2013 at 1:10 AM

Goodnight, Paladin. Sometimes anger sustains us. Sleep well. :)

thatsafactjack on September 11, 2013 at 1:12 AM

Tough On Me, Tough On You – Lonnie Mack

thatsafactjack on September 11, 2013 at 1:13 AM

Nite Jackie – hate well :)

Schadenfreude on September 11, 2013 at 1:13 AM

PattyJ on September 11, 2013 at 1:10 AM

Yup. Except for the part where you say Obama thinks. Mostly Obama golfs.

Fenris on September 11, 2013 at 1:14 AM

Schadenfreude on September 11, 2013 at 1:13 AM

A fire that burns in my heart forever, Paladin.

thatsafactjack on September 11, 2013 at 1:14 AM

thatsafactjack on September 11, 2013 at 1:08 AM

Good evenin’ to you, Darlin’ Jackie.

Got three of my ranch hands doing D.C. tomorrow on their bikes. Offered to send their horses up there, which could “color” the streets here and there, but my guys said there’d be plenty of color on the streets after they left. Can’t wait for their pics.

TXUS on September 11, 2013 at 1:14 AM

TXUS on September 11, 2013 at 1:14 AM

Excellent! :)

thatsafactjack on September 11, 2013 at 1:15 AM

Beautifully Broken- Govt Mule

thatsafactjack on September 11, 2013 at 1:18 AM

Lol, Obamas second term in 2 minutes.

abobo on September 11, 2013 at 1:22 AM

The song that sums it all up, as to all things Obama:

Blowin’ Smoke – Kacey Musgraves

TXUS on September 11, 2013 at 1:29 AM

Epitaph – King Crimson

I bid you all a fond goodnight. It’s been a pleasure, as always.

Live in the moment.

“Keep yourselves where the light is.”

thatsafactjack on September 11, 2013 at 1:30 AM

Obama thinks his worries are over on this one.

However, Vlad is wondering what he’s going to do with all this new power. Or, worse, he’s already decided and is waiting for the right time.

PattyJ on September 11, 2013 at 1:10 AM

And I bet the Chinese are a bit ticked that they missed out on a BJ from the new b!tch. They’re going to want to have a little fun, too.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 11, 2013 at 1:34 AM

thatsafactjack on September 11, 2013 at 1:30 AM

Goodnight and great rhythms.

TXUS on September 11, 2013 at 1:41 AM

A Democratic strategist who works closely with the White House, and who requested anonymity to avoid political retribution, told me, “This has been one of the most humiliating episodes in presidential history.”

Too cute by half: Obama and his allies are masters of “spin,” packaging partial truths and outright distortions to a malleable public. With Syria, their dark arts are on full display. There is no other way to explain the White House disowning Secretary of State John Kerry’s call for Syria to turn over its stockpiles until the savvy Putin seized on the off-the-cuff remark as a way to protect ally Bashar al-Assad. Suddenly, the White House is touting the Putin plan as their brainchild, an outcome Obama had in mind when he travelled to Russia. Don’t buy it

Big fat lie. If he’d attained this agreement with Putin, in Petersburg, he’d have touted it at the presser, there.

The rest of the article is mostly full of indirect excuses of obama and accusations of the “bad conservatives”, meh.

9/11/2013

1. Benghazi

2. Muslims running around in DC, ‘for freedom’.

3. oaf in the white house

4. ME in shambles

5. The land in shambles

6. The USA diminished, by obama, on purpose

7. The NSA admitted yesterday that they listen in on myriad of phone calls, illegally, with no judges…nothing, no reasons…

8. The IRS

Etc, etc.

Nite, for sure!

Schadenfreude on September 11, 2013 at 1:41 AM

. . . . . . Obama, meanwhile, took off for Sweden, and, as the town halls roiled with anger, put off his address to the country for the following week. While abroad, he managed to further humiliate himself in the eyes of Putin, who already sees him as weak. Obama, having just called off his bilateral summit with Putin because Russia granted asylum to Edward Snowden, went ahead and met with Putin anyway. It was a pointless meeting—”We both stuck to our guns,” Putin said afterwards—but in Russia, the message was unmistakable: Putin is stronger, and Putin won.

Julia Ioffe, Newrepublic.com, Sept 10, 2013

.
Vladmir, the opportunity for you to go up against some REAL American leadership will present itself.

The “candy-assed college boy” doesn’t count.

listens2glenn on September 11, 2013 at 1:51 AM

It really is saying something of the collapsing legitimacy of the US presidency when foreign leaders such as Vladimir Putin or even Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad – the latter vilified as a despotic tyrant – project more moral authority and credibility to the American people than their own leaders do.

roflmmfao

donabernathy on September 11, 2013 at 2:01 AM

So you all noticed that Obama was doing a Morgan Freeman imitation, right? Even imitating Freeman’s rather pleasant accent

pat on September 11, 2013 at 2:26 AM

“Several people I’ve talked to said this was all part of a grand scheme and that rollout was really a way that the administration could orchestrate this, and the Russians could steer the Syrians and all this kind of spin behind the scenes,” Baier revealed. “It’s just tough to stomach all of that watching how it transpired, and how much power Russia is now given on the world stage of steering this diplomatic effort.”

Because they are liars.

A whole administration full. Amateur hour, indeed.

98ZJUSMC on September 11, 2013 at 2:31 AM

“We’re not trusting Assad,” Heitkamp explained. “We’re trusting the Russians to come to the table…”

“Whoa,” Mitchell interjected. “You’re trusting the Russians?”

“We’re trusting Russia’s intent at this point to actually deliver the right set of circumstances,” Heitkamp clarified.

I suppose they never got to the part about trusting Obama to actually focus like a laser in following up on anything he promises.

Dusty on September 11, 2013 at 5:11 AM

OT: Is Spitzer losing..?

[d1carter on September 10, 2013 at 10:44 PM]

Thanks for the link and reminder. At this time it is 98% of precincts reporting and Stringer is up 52% to 48% with a vote differential of 24k. If 98% translates into 10k not counted yet, it’s definitely over.

Woot!

Dusty on September 11, 2013 at 5:21 AM

Just a few days ago it was the pressing moral urgency of attacking Syria to go after its chemical weapons so the chillun won’t be killed by them.

Now it is the pressing moral urgency of delay because, you know, forgetting to do something as easy as diplomacy just slipped the President’s mind and it took Putin to point it out to him.

But the prior pressing moral urgency still requires action.

Just not now.

Maybe later.

Because.

What a maroon.

ajacksonian on September 11, 2013 at 5:26 AM

It looks to be a good HA day, today. Day that ends in y Obama clusterf#@k. Spitzer and Weiner. Colorado recalls. 911 Remembrance, 2 million bikers in DC.

No doubt there’s somethings I missed, plus whatever crops up this day. I hope there is nothing nasty.

Dusty on September 11, 2013 at 5:44 AM

12 years ago today. I was just getting up to go for a run.

ted c on September 11, 2013 at 6:13 AM

What exactly did people expect? Last I heard Rand Paul thinks this is a pretty good idea. And a lot of conservatives were more than willing to do nothing at all…so even if this is just a gambit, what is there to lose? It is not as if most conservatives supported doing anything in Syria anyway. In truth they were more closely aligned with MoveOn than they were with Patraeous this time around.

Obama has bungled this no doubt…that is what he does. But I do not see anyone covering themselves with glory here.

Terrye on September 11, 2013 at 6:34 AM

What exactly did people expect? Last I heard Rand Paul thinks this is a pretty good idea.

Terrye on September 11, 2013 at 6:34 AM

I’ve heard Rand Paul on this four times since yesterday afternoon (the last time just this morning on local talk radio). He never said this was a pretty good idea. Why do you lie?

What he said is that he was supportive of a diplomatic solution- if there is some way to verify. But that statement was tempered with a good deal of skepticism.

Happy Nomad on September 11, 2013 at 6:41 AM

It is a day of Prayer and Remembrance, Patriots.

9/11 was a deliberate, carefully planned evil act of the long-waged war on the West by Koran-inspired soldiers of Allah around the world. They hated us before George W. Bush was in office. They hated us before Israel existed. And the avengers of the religion of perpetual outrage will keep hating us.

- Michelle Malkin
My Take: “9/11/13: 12 Years After…Haunting Memories…and an Empty Suit”

kingsjester on September 11, 2013 at 6:43 AM

OT- Weiner the class act as always:

And leaving his concession speech, Weiner was caught on video flipping the bird to a New York reporter as he drove away from his flaccid election night performance

But good news that even New Yorkers have standards as disgustingly low as they are (see Bloomberg, Michael). Which leads to the other good news story. Those gun-grabbing Dems facing recall in Colorado went down too.

There may be hope for this nation yet.

Happy Nomad on September 11, 2013 at 6:51 AM

Good morning, kids!

Prayers, and many of them, as we mark another September 11th on our calendars today. I simply can’t write 9/11, I think it diminishes the day, and the victims deserve more, way more, than an abbreviation, because the media decided long ago to be too lazy to say the full date.

KJ, another outstanding article. I also read a few of the others and LOVE the drawing of the Empty Suit being measured.

herm2416 on September 11, 2013 at 7:14 AM

Whoa, check out the headline at Drudge…then check out the cartoon at KJ’s….apropos.

herm2416 on September 11, 2013 at 7:15 AM

herm2416 on September 11, 2013 at 7:14 AM

Thank you!

kingsjester on September 11, 2013 at 7:16 AM

Prayers, and many of them, as we mark another September 11th on our calendars today. I simply can’t write 9/11, I think it diminishes the day, and the victims deserve more, way more, than an abbreviation, because the media decided long ago to be too lazy to say the full date.

herm2416 on September 11, 2013 at 7:14 AM

I don’t have a problem with 9/11 but let’s remember that since last year there really are two sets of victims on the September 11th calendar. Both suffered at the hand of Islam. Certainly last year’s atrocity was not of the magnitude or subject to the kind of national soul searching that 9/11/01 evoked.

Nevertheless, we must not forget the victims of Benghazi because they have been abandoned by this government in an cover-up effort to provide political cover to those as responsible for their deaths as Muslims.

Happy Nomad on September 11, 2013 at 7:23 AM

My Take: “9/11/13: 12 Years After…Haunting Memories…and an Empty Suit”

kingsjester on September 11, 2013 at 6:43 AM

….never forget!

KOOLAID2 on September 11, 2013 at 7:24 AM

Trust Russia

Shy Guy on September 11, 2013 at 7:39 AM

Happy Nomad on September 11, 2013 at 7:23 AM

Yes, I was thinking of both days, I just didn’t think to separate the two. Thank you for putting a clarifying point to it!

herm2416 on September 11, 2013 at 7:42 AM

What exactly did people expect? Last I heard Rand Paul thinks this is a pretty good idea. And a lot of conservatives were more than willing to do nothing at all…so even if this is just a gambit, what is there to lose? It is not as if most conservatives supported doing anything in Syria anyway. In truth they were more closely aligned with MoveOn than they were with Patraeous this time around.
Obama has bungled this no doubt…that is what he does. But I do not see anyone covering themselves with glory here.
Terrye on September 11, 2013 at 6:34 AM

Have you even been following what’s going on in Syria the last few years? How can you even say that conservatives have wanted to do nothing? Are you aware of the change in the makeup of the rebel forces over the last six months? What do you think about the Al Qaeda infiltration? Do you believe that military action is the only way to “do something” at this point? How flippant and clueless you are when you carelessly say that we ought to bomb another country in order to “do something.”

You are parroting Democrat talking points on this issue, just as you do when you promote illegal alien amnesty on this site. You seem to like to play the contrarian around conservatives. You should try to learn more about the issues rather than just watching a few shows on MSNBC and calling it a day.

bluegill on September 11, 2013 at 7:49 AM

12 years ago today. I was just getting up to go for a run.

ted c on September 11, 2013 at 6:13 AM

12 years ago today I was preparing to deliver some cabinets into New York City.

Cleombrotus on September 11, 2013 at 8:04 AM

I was actually sleeping at the time. Didn’t see anything live on tv. But I remember watching all the coverage.

bluegill on September 11, 2013 at 8:08 AM

In Russia live Russians. Any minority, from anywhere, if it wants to live in Russia, to work and eat in Russia, should speak Russian, and should respect the Russian laws. If they prefer Sharia Law, then we advise them to go to those places where that’s the state law. Russia does not need minorities. Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell ‘discrimination’. We better learn from the suicides of America, England, Holland and France, if we are to survive as a nation. The Russian customs and traditions are not compatible with the lack of culture or the primitive ways of most minorities. When this honorable legislative body thinks of creating new laws, it should have in mind the national interest first, observing that the minorities are not Russians.
- Vladimir Putin

VorDaj on September 11, 2013 at 1:01 AM

Hmmm. I suppose one could live quite nicely on
Social Security in Russia these days, no?

Cleombrotus on September 11, 2013 at 8:18 AM

12 years ago today, we had just moved to Dallas. My son yelled down the stairs, “A plane hit the World Trade Center.” I yelled back, “Stupid sightseeing pilot. Get in the car it’s time to go.”

Listening to the news on the radio after dropping the kids off I had tears flowing down my face. I got home, turned on the TV and saw the first tower fall. I was paralyzed with disbelief. A sweet elderly neighbor from South Africa came over. He said, “I know you just moved here. No one should be alone right now.”

Then, I dug through the boxes and found my flag. I couldn’t find the brackets, so I took a staple gun and stapled it up across the front porch. That’s all I could think of to do. Later in the day, I saw that many, many of my neighbors had done the same thing. There were American flags everywhere. It felt defiant. I have always loved the flag, but that day, I understood better the words “for which it stands.”

Fallon on September 11, 2013 at 8:21 AM

Ah, Hollywood,

Alexei Kolchin: In Union of Soviet, when I am only young boy, many are saying, Americanski are bad people, they will attack Russia. So all mistrust American. But I think that I do not mistrust American… not really sinceriously. I wish not to hate… anybody!

[He throws a stone into the sea]

Alexei Kolchin: This make good reason to you, Alison Palmer?

Alison Palmer: Well, of course it does. It doesn’t make sense to hate people. It’s such a waste of time.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060921/?ref_=ttqt_qt_tt

Fallon on September 11, 2013 at 8:31 AM

Notice the lack of mentioning terrorists as a factor in Syria?

It was a 9/10 speech that believes that Nation States are the only threat to civilization.

It was given by a 9/10 mentality President.

On 9/10.

How appropriate.

ajacksonian on September 11, 2013 at 8:39 AM

As many of you know, I homeschool our children. Written in stone…I will not answer the phone during school hours. People know not to call unless it is an emergency. My neighbor called, she had a new baby at the time, so I answered. I couldn’t hear her words through the tears, I was ready to dash over when she said to turn on the TV.

We cancelled school and just sat in utter shock the rest of the day. It still brings me to instant tears, that day.

herm2416 on September 11, 2013 at 9:03 AM

Fallon on September 11, 2013 at 8:31 AM

Well, Alyson Palmer was a cute little button…and Kolchin looked sincere…

So many great lines from that wonderful film…

“Egermansy, egermansy, everybody to get from street.”

Or the local militia “leader”, “OK, I say we vote. It’s the democratic way.” Plaintive singular voice, “What about the Republican way??”

So many great lines from that movie. One of my all time favorite films.

In that film, Alan Arkin’s Russian, by the way, was impeccable.

Now what were we talking about?

coldwarrior on September 11, 2013 at 9:16 AM

So, does this great diplomatic breakthrough brought to us by the miracle maker mean we’re going to stop funding to the rebels? Oh, hell no. The funds will still flow until the spigot runs dry.

Kissmygrits on September 11, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Obama has bungled this no doubt…that is what he does. But I do not see anyone covering themselves with glory here.

Terrye on September 11, 2013 at 6:34 AM

The ‘glory’ is all yours. May you go to the highest layer in Heaven.

Schadenfreude on September 11, 2013 at 12:17 PM

You are parroting Democrat talking points on this issue, just as you do when you promote illegal alien amnesty on this site. You seem to like to play the contrarian around conservatives. You should try to learn more about the issues rather than just watching a few shows on MSNBC and calling it a day.

bluegill on September 11, 2013 at 7:49 AM

Good job, bluegill.

Just one thing you need to internalize – Terrye is the perfect RINO.

Schadenfreude on September 11, 2013 at 12:19 PM

You are parroting Democrat talking points on this issue, just as you do when you promote illegal alien amnesty on this site. You seem to like to play the contrarian around conservatives. You should try to learn more about the issues rather than just watching a few shows on MSNBC and calling it a day.

bluegill on September 11, 2013 at 7:49 AM

That is rich coming from a democrat stooge like you.

Murphy9 on September 11, 2013 at 1:57 PM

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