Open thread: Desperate man tries to convince world he has faintest idea of what he’s doing

posted at 8:41 pm on September 10, 2013 by Allahpundit

9 p.m. ET all across the dial on cable news. Peggy Noonan calls it, correctly, “a White House address in which a president argues for an endeavor he is abandoning. It will be a president appealing for public support for an action he intends not to take.” Safe bets:

He will claim the moral high ground. He will temporarily reserve the use of force and welcome recent diplomatic efforts. He will suggest it was his threat of force that forced a possible diplomatic solution. His people will be all over the airwaves saying it was his deft leadership and steely-eyed threat to use force that allowed for a diplomatic break.

The real purpose of the speech will be to lay the predicate for a retrospective judgment of journalists and, later, historians. He was the president who warned the world and almost went—but didn’t go—to war to make a point that needed making.

Politico, while being careful to damn American institutions generally for the fiasco of the past two weeks, has an apt verdict on The One himself: “Barack Obama’s unsteady handling of the Syria crisis has been an avert-your-gaze moment in the history of the modern presidency — highlighting his unsettled views and unattractive options in a way that has caused his enemies to cackle and supporters to cringe.” Nonetheless, Noonan’s right. Expect the talking point for the rest of the week to be that this was Obama’s Cuban Missile Crisis, that he prevailed by coolly staring down the Russian bear and … letting himself be dragged to safety by Vladimir Putin at the last moment. One obvious difference between this and the Missile Crisis is that the missiles really were withdrawn from Cuba. The great American hope of disarming Assad at the UN won’t go nearly as well, per Yochi Dreazen:

Finding and securing all of Assad’s sites would be the first major challenge of implementing the Russian plan, but it would be far from the only one. The U.S. and allied personnel would then have to separate the chemical substances themselves from the warheads of his rockets, artillery shells or missiles that had been designed to carry them to their targets. The work itself would be carried out by either robots or specially-trained troops, but it would still be time-consuming and dangerous.

The next step would be to build new a new facility at each chemical weapons site to destroy all of the toxic substances. There are two basic ways to dispose of chemical weapons. One option involves spraying the chemicals themselves into specialized furnaces and then burning them at around 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit for one or two seconds. Nerve agents like sarin can also be rendered largely harmless by the addition of liquid sodium hydroxide, while mustard gas can be made safe with alkaline water. Kuhlman and other experts say that either type of destruction would have to be done at individual Syrian weapons facilities because it wouldn’t be safe to move the munitions to a centralized collection point or to a country like Russia while the fighting was raging.

“Do you really want to have truckloads of chemical weapons driving around Syria during the current situation?” he asked.

It’ll cost billions and might take more than a decade to complete, all the while knowing that Assad’s allies could re-arm him with WMD virtually overnight if they needed to. But then, the point here isn’t to disarm Assad, it’s to win the test of credibility with him by getting him to admit that chemical weapons are bad, bad, bad and the he should be disarmed. Mission accomplished. Now America collectively can get back to football and whatever Miley Cyrus is up to.

Rand Paul’s promising a rebuttal speech at 10 p.m. but it’s unclear whether the cable nets will pick it up live or whether we’ll have to watch online tomorrow. Regardless, now that O’s embracing Russia’s disarmament charade, some of the contrast has been lost. Expect Paul to focus on the president’s power, or lack thereof, to wage war without congressional authorization instead of the nuts and bolts of the Syria standoff. And if you’re bored with Syria by now, good news: The Colorado recall elections and the New York City mayoral primary are both happening tonight too. It’s Anthony Weiner’s last hurrah. Here’s your thread to grieve as a community.

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USA among them, I expect..?

affenhauer on September 10, 2013 at 9:41 PM

Unfortunately, yes. So many it would take up my entire 1/2 acre front yard.

txhsmom on September 10, 2013 at 9:47 PM

So according to Obama’s own mind-bending logic, 9/11 wasn’t an act of war.

mythicknight on September 10, 2013 at 9:48 PM

Remember: chillun dying overseas is something we have to do something about.

I propose sending Planned Parenthood, instead.

ajacksonian on September 10, 2013 at 9:48 PM

Obama killed those children when he failed to work on Syria last year. He ignored chemical weapons for months.

Those kids foaming at the mouth are Obama’s doing. He is so inept. He gets people killed.

Actually the people who voted for Obama twice should answer to God for the dead in Syria. They knew who he was and they still voted for him.

petunia on September 10, 2013 at 9:49 PM

“Assad is a thug.”

Democratic Congressman Engel praising the SCOAMF’s speech.


OK …
fire a few cruise missiles at the City Hall and the Democratic Headquarters in Chicago.

If Daley and the others surrender power and provide written confessions of THEIR crimes …

… THEN I’ll buy into attacking Syria.

PolAgnostic on September 10, 2013 at 9:49 PM

******************** TRANSCRIPTY *********************!!

Obama asks Congress to postpone Syria vote
Syrian civil war

Transcript of President Obama’s national address on Syria – @washingtonpost

27 secs ago from http://www.washingtonpost.com by editor
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FULL TRANSCRIPT: President Obama’s Sept. 10 speech on Syria

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y Washington Post Staff, Updated: Tuesday, September 10, 9:28 PM

President Obama delivered the following remarks making the case for a military strike against the Syrian government on Sept. 10, 2013, at the White House.
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PRESIDENT OBAMA: My fellow Americans, tonight I want to talk to you about Syria, why it matters and where we go from here.

Over the past two years, what began as a series of peaceful protests against the oppressive regime of Bashar al-Assad has turned into a brutal civil war. Over 100,000 people have been killed. Millions have fled the country. In that time, America’s worked with allies to provide humanitarian support, to help the moderate opposition, and to shape a political settlement, but I have resisted calls for military action because we cannot resolve someone else’s civil war through force, particularly after a decade of war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The situation profoundly changed, though, on August 21st, when Assad’s government gassed to death over 1,000 people, including hundreds of children. The images from this massacre are sickening: men, women, children lying in rows, killed by poison gas, others foaming at the mouth, gasping for breath, a father clutching his dead children, imploring them to get up and walk.

On that terrible night, the world saw in gruesome detail the terrible nature of chemical weapons and why the overwhelming majority of humanity has declared them off-limits, a crime against humanity and a violation of the laws of war.

This was not always the case. In World War I, American G.I.s were among the many thousands killed by deadly gas in the trenches of Europe. In World War II, the Nazis used gas to inflict the horror of the Holocaust. Because these weapons can kill on a mass scale, with no distinction between soldier and infant, the civilized world has spent a century working to ban them. And in 1997, the United States Senate overwhelmingly approved an international agreement prohibiting the use of chemical weapons, now joined by 189 governments that represent 98 percent of humanity.

On August 21st, these basic rules were violated, along with our sense of common humanity. No one disputes that chemical weapons were used in Syria. The world saw thousands of videos, cell phone pictures, and social media accounts from the attack, and humanitarian organizations told stories of hospitals packed with people who had symptoms of poison gas.

Moreover, we know the Assad regime was responsible. In the days leading up to August 21st, we know that Assad’s chemical weapons personnel prepared for an attack near an area where they mix sarin gas. They distributed gas masks to their troops. Then they fired rockets from a regime-controlled area into 11 neighborhoods that the regime has been trying to wipe clear of opposition forces. Shortly after those rockets landed, the gas spread, and hospitals filled with the dying and the wounded.

We know senior figures in Assad’s military machine reviewed the results of the attack and the regime increased their shelling of the same neighborhoods in the days that followed. We’ve also studied samples of blood and hair from people at the site that tested positive for sarin.

When dictators commit atrocities, they depend upon the world to look the other way until those horrifying pictures fade from memory, but these things happened. The facts cannot be denied.

The question now is what the United States of America and the international community is prepared to do about it, because what happened to those people — to those children — is not only a violation of international law, it’s also a danger to our security. Let me explain why.

When dictators commit atrocities, they depend upon the world to look the other way until those horrifying pictures fade from memory, but these things happened. The facts cannot be denied.

The question now is what the United States of America and the international community is prepared to do about it, because what happened to those people — to those children — is not only a violation of international law, it’s also a danger to our security. Let me explain why.

If we fail to act, the Assad regime will see no reason to stop using chemical weapons. As the ban against these weapons erodes, other tyrants will have no reason to think twice about acquiring poison gas and using them. Over time, our troops would again face the prospect of chemical warfare on the battlefield, and it could be easier for terrorist organizations to obtain these weapons and to use them to attack civilians.

If fighting spills beyond Syria’s borders, these weapons could threaten allies like Turkey, Jordan and Israel. And a failure to stand against the use of chemical weapons would weaken prohibitions against other weapons of mass destruction and embolden Assad’s ally, Iran, which must decide whether to ignore international law by building a nuclear weapon or to take a more peaceful path.

This is not a world we should accept. This is what’s at stake. And that is why, after careful deliberation, I determined that it is in the national security interests of the United States to respond to the Assad regime’s use of chemical weapons through a targeted military strike. The purpose of this strike would be to deter Assad from using chemical weapons, to degrade his regime’s ability to use them, and to make clear to the world that we will not tolerate their use.

That’s my judgment as commander-in-chief, but I’m also the president of the world’s oldest constitutional democracy. So even though I possess the authority to order military strikes, I believed it was right in the absence of a direct or imminent threat to our security to take this debate to Congress. I believe our democracy is stronger when the president acts with the support of Congress, and I believe that America acts more effectively abroad when we stand together. This is especially true after a decade that put more and more war-making power in the hands of the president and more and more burdens on the shoulders of our troops, while sidelining the people’s representatives from the critical decisions about when we use force.

Now, I know that after the terrible toll of Iraq and Afghanistan, the idea of any military action — no matter how limited — is not going to be popular. After all, I’ve spent four-and-a-half years working to end wars, not to start them. Our troops are out of Iraq. Our troops are coming home from Afghanistan. And I know Americans want all of us in Washington — especially me — to concentrate on the task of building our nation here at home, putting people back to work, educating our kids, growing our middle class. It’s no wonder then that you’re asking hard questions.

So let me answer some of the most important questions that I’ve heard from members of Congress and that I’ve read in letters that you’ve sent to me. First, many of you have asked, won’t this put us on a slippery slope to another war? One man wrote to me that we are still recovering from our involvement in Iraq. A veteran put it more bluntly: This nation is sick and tired of war.

My answer is simple. I will not put American boots on the ground in Syria. I will not pursue an open-ended action like Iraq or Afghanistan. I will not pursue a prolonged air campaign like Libya or Kosovo. This would be a targeted strike to achieve a clear objective, deterring the use of chemical weapons and degrading Assad’s capabilities.

Others have asked whether it’s worth acting if we don’t take out Assad. Now, some members of Congress have said there’s no point in simply doing a pinprick strike in Syria.

Let me make something clear: The United States military doesn’t do pinpricks. Even a limited strike will send a message to Assad that no other nation can deliver.

I don’t think we should remove another dictator with force. We learned from Iraq that doing so makes us responsible for all that comes next. But a targeted strike can makes Assad — or any other dictator — think twice before using chemical weapons.

Other questions involve the dangers of retaliation. We don’t dismiss any threats, but the Assad regime does not have the ability to seriously threaten our military. Any other — any other retaliation they might seek is in line with threats that we face every day. Neither Assad nor his allies have any interest in escalation that would lead to his demise, and our ally, Israel, can defend itself with overwhelming force, as well as the unshakable support of the United States of America.

Many of you have asked a broader question: Why should we get involved at all in a place that’s so complicated and where, as one person wrote to me, those who come after Assad may be enemies of human rights?

It’s true that some of Assad’s opponents are extremists. But Al Qaida will only draw strength in a more chaotic Syria if people there see the world doing nothing to prevent innocent civilians from being gassed to death.

The majority of the Syrian people, and the Syrian opposition we work with, just want to live in peace, with dignity and freedom. And the day after any military action, we would redouble our efforts to achieve a political solution that strengthens those who reject the forces of tyranny and extremism.

Finally, many of you have asked, why not leave this to other countries or seek solutions short of force? As several people wrote to me, we should not be the world’s policemen.

I agree. And I have a deeply held preference for peaceful solutions. Over the last two years, my administration has tried diplomacy and sanctions, warnings and negotiations, but chemical weapons were still used by the Assad regime.

However, over the last few days, we’ve seen some encouraging signs, in part because of the credible threat of U.S. military action, as well as constructive talks that I had with President Putin. The Russian government has indicated a willingness to join with the international community in pushing Assad to give up his chemical weapons. The Assad regime has now admitting that it has these weapons and even said they’d join the Chemical Weapons Convention, which prohibits their use.

It’s too early to tell whether this offer will succeed, and any agreement must verify that the Assad regime keeps its commitments, but this initiative has the potential to remove the threat of chemical weapons without the use of force, particularly because Russia is one of Assad’s strongest allies.

I have therefore asked the leaders of Congress to postpone a vote to authorize the use of force while we pursue this diplomatic path. I’m sending Secretary of State John Kerry to meet his Russian counterpart on Thursday, and I will continue my own discussions with President Putin.

I’ve spoken to the leaders of two of our closest allies — France and the United Kingdom — and we will work together in consultation with Russia and China to put forward a resolution at the U.N. Security Council requiring Assad to give up his chemical weapons and to ultimately destroy them under international control.

We’ll also give U.N. inspectors the opportunity to report their findings about what happened on August 21st, and we will continue to rally support from allies from Europe to the Americas, from Asia to the Middle East, who agree on the need for action.

Meanwhile, I’ve ordered our military to maintain their current posture to keep the pressure on Assad and to be in a position to respond if diplomacy fails. And tonight I give thanks, again, to our military and their families for their incredible strength and sacrifices.

My fellow Americans, for nearly seven decades, the United States has been the anchor of global security. This has meant doing more than forging international agreements; it has meant enforcing them. The burdens of leadership are often heavy, but the world’s a better place because we have borne them.

And so to my friends on the right, I ask you to reconcile your commitment to America’s military might with the failure to act when a cause is so plainly just.

To my friends on the left, I ask you to reconcile your belief in freedom and dignity for all people with those images of children writhing in pain and going still on a cold hospital floor, for sometimes resolutions and statements of condemnation are simply not enough.

Indeed, I’d ask every member of Congress and those of you watching at home tonight to view those videos of the attack, and then ask, what kind of world will we live in if the United States of America sees a dictator brazenly violate international law with poison gas and we choose to look the other way?

Franklin Roosevelt once said, “Our national determination to keep free of foreign wars and foreign entanglements cannot prevent us from feeling deep concern when ideas and principles that we have cherished are challenged.”

Our ideals and principles, as well as our national security, are at stake in Syria, along with our leadership of a world where we seek to ensure that the worst weapons will never be used.

America is not the world’s policeman. Terrible things happen across the globe, and it is beyond our means to right every wrong, but when with modest effort and risk we can stop children from being gassed to death and thereby make our own children safer over the long run, I believe we should act.

That’s what makes America different. That’s what makes us exceptional. With humility, but with resolve, let us never lose sight of that essential truth.

Thank you, God bless you, and God bless the United States of America.
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canopfor on September 10, 2013 at 9:49 PM

Who was the only sitting US Pres. Use CS gas killing 76 women and children?
Bill Clinton the last Dem pres.
Do we the people see a pattern here?

jpcpt03 on September 10, 2013 at 9:49 PM

Obama asks Congress to postpone Syria vote
Syrian civil war

RNC Chair Reince Priebus on Obama’s speech: ‘This rudderless diplomacy has embarrassed America on the world stage’ – @joshledermanAP

4 mins ago by editor

canopfor on September 10, 2013 at 9:50 PM

arik1969 on September 10, 2013 at 9:46 PM

LOL. Great job!

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 10, 2013 at 9:50 PM

by Allen West via Facebook

President Obama stated at the end of his 16 minute speech, “terrible things happen across the globe….we should act, that’s what makes America exceptional.” I find his words utterly disgusting because tomorrow we will remember four Americans who were abandoned by President Obama to die in Libya. I found no righteous indignation and call for a moral obligation to avenge and punish their islamic terrorist murderers – matter of fact, Obama called it a “phony scandal.” Christians are being butchered daily, where is his outrage? Israel is taking rocket and missile fire, where is his outrage? Some 100,000 Syrians had been killed by conventional munitions, and this was not the first chemical attack, where was his outrage? Obama has shown incompetence and weakness and has not presented a credible threat to Assad and Putin. If he wanted to respond he could have, God knows he did not seek congressional approval for Libya. He has been strategically outmaneuvered by Putin, lost the initiative, and allowed Putin to look like a statesman while he looks like a confused community organizer.

bazil9 on September 10, 2013 at 9:47 PM

Well said.

thatsafactjack on September 10, 2013 at 9:50 PM

Obama should not be compared to Lincoln, nor FDR and especially not to Reagan. No, it’s clear his trajectory is and will be more closely aligned to LBJ, and possibly Woodrow Wilson, than any of our other past Presidents. Only delusional Progressives can ignore recent history, ignore what is staring them in the face, and expect to achieve a different outcome. And lie to the American people at the same time.

HoosierStateofMind on September 10, 2013 at 9:51 PM

Allen West for the win

Allen West
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President Obama stated at the end of his 16 minute speech, “terrible things happen across the globe….we should act, that’s what makes America exceptional.” I find his words utterly disgusting because tomorrow we will remember four Americans who were abandoned by President Obama to die in Libya. I found no righteous indignation and call for a moral obligation to avenge and punish their islamic terrorist murderers – matter of fact, Obama called it a “phony scandal.” Christians are being butchered daily, where is his outrage? Israel is taking rocket and missile fire, where is his outrage? Some 100,000 Syrians had been killed by conventional munitions, and this was not the first chemical attack, where was his outrage? Obama has shown incompetence and weakness and has not presented a credible threat to Assad and Putin. If he wanted to respond he could have, God knows he did not seek congressional approval for Libya. He has been strategically outmaneuvered by Putin, lost the initiative, and allowed Putin to look like a statesman while he looks like a confused community organizer.

gophergirl on September 10, 2013 at 9:51 PM

Didn’t watch (after the first minute because of no resignation announcement) but thanks to all that did.

What I’m gathering from the comments is that it was an unbelievably small speech.

TXUS on September 10, 2013 at 9:51 PM

Strikingly, a large percentage of American voters believe that Obama’s foreign policy has weakened America’s standing in the world. 48 percent agree that the United States is less respected now than it was five years ago when George W. Bush left office.

The Flailing, Failing Flavour Fav: Obama Slumps To Lowest Ratings Of His Presidency, As Americans See Him As ‘A Weak And Indecisive Leader’

Resist We Much on September 10, 2013 at 9:51 PM

bazil9 on September 10, 2013 at 9:47 PM

Well said.

thatsafactjack on September 10, 2013 at 9:50 PM

Yep. I heart West. A man of excellence.

bazil9 on September 10, 2013 at 9:51 PM

Putin/Assad 2016.

kingsmill on September 10, 2013 at 9:51 PM

“Assad is a thug.”

Democratic Congressman Engel praising the SCOAMF’s speech.

So is Putin.

I do not get the mental disorder these people have.

ajacksonian on September 10, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Tweets All / No replies

Reuters Top News ‏@Reuters 12m

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canopfor on September 10, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Obama gave the speech standing because the rectal baseball bat administered by Putin makes it difficult to sit down.

matthew8787 on September 10, 2013 at 9:52 PM

by Allen West via Facebook

Some 100,000 Syrians had been killed by conventional munitions, and this was not the first chemical attack, where was his outrage?

bazil9 on September 10, 2013 at 9:47 PM

*sniff* Obviously reading me.

Axe on September 10, 2013 at 9:53 PM

Desperate man tries to convince world he has faintest idea of what he’s doing

This dope is at his most desperate and ridiculous when he refers to himself as Commander in Chief. Can anyone remember another President so insecure, so out of his depth, that he referred to himself in a speech to the nation as Commander in Chief?

I thought not.

Jaibones on September 10, 2013 at 9:54 PM

“Assad is a thug.”

Democratic Congressman Engel praising the SCOAMF’s speech.

“Assad is a real reformer”

A whole gaggle of democrats, from Nazi Pelousi and throughout the “top” dem America-haters, who broke the law and traveled to Syria to be wined and dined by the chinless wonder, whom they adore and look to propagandize for.

The left used to love Q’Daffy, too. Nelson Mandela thought he was the greatest. Q’Daffy was even the centerfold of Barky’s Crypto-Christian, marxist, anti-white church’s monthly rag. Hot!

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 10, 2013 at 9:54 PM

You see, if Assad was just using napalm it would be so much better for those getting killed by it…

This dimwit President has no clue about warfare and how gruesome it can be.

None at all.

ajacksonian on September 10, 2013 at 9:41 PM

He doesn’t care.

But consider someone like Neville Chamberlain who did try to avoid war. We malign him to this day.

Thinking about this objectively, we believe that some wars are “good” while others are “bad”. “Good” wars are always necessary according to their supporters, while “bad” ones are only started by evil elements.

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 10, 2013 at 9:54 PM

Rand Paul’s promising a rebuttal speech at 10 p.m. but it’s unclear whether the cable nets will pick it up live or whether we’ll have to watch online tomorrow.

Just dig up some of Obama’s anti-Iraq speeches.

Play those.

So the President can be chastised by himself.

ajacksonian on September 10, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Oops,that 9:31PM,time stamp on Rueters,oops!!

WASHINGTON | Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:31pm EDT

canopfor on September 10, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Prayers for peace in your heart, GG.

I learned a de-stressing trick not long ago. It sounds silly and trite, but it worked for me a couple times. Close your eyes, think of your favorite toy as a child., nothing else. Think of where you played with it, nothing else. Think of who played with you, nothing else. It will take you back to a magical time when NOTHING was on your mind. Do this for a few minutes. It is like a good cry, nothing has changed, but your heart lightens with the innocence of that time.

Simple, really, but sometimes we need simplicity in our lives.

herm2416 on September 10, 2013 at 9:22 PM

I’ve had a bit of a rough day as well, I will try out your suggestion.

All the best to gg & others who are having a rough day, or perhaps longer. May the God of mercy & grace make His presence known to us.

22044 on September 10, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Allen West for the win

gophergirl on September 10, 2013 at 9:51 PM

F**KIN’ A!!

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 10, 2013 at 9:55 PM

‘This has been one of the most humiliating episodes in presidential history.’

- A Democratic strategist who works closely with the White House, and who requested anonymity to avoid political retribution

Resist We Much on September 10, 2013 at 9:55 PM

if I had a horse that looked like pee wee kerry, i’d put him down.

Fred

jrsrigmvr on September 10, 2013 at 9:55 PM

All the best to gg & others who are having a rough day, or perhaps longer. May the God of mercy & grace make His presence known to us.

22044 on September 10, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Amen. :) May God fill us back up with peace. :) –Though, you know, we need to eat.

Axe on September 10, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Obama should not be compared to Lincoln, nor FDR and especially not to Reagan. No, it’s clear his trajectory is and will be more closely aligned to LBJ, and possibly Woodrow Wilson, than any of our other past Presidents.

HoosierStateofMind on September 10, 2013 at 9:51 PM

No. Barky compares most closely with Incitatus.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 10, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Thinking about this objectively, we believe that some wars are “good” while others are “bad”. “Good” wars are always necessary according to their supporters, while “bad” ones are only started by evil elements.

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 10, 2013 at 9:54 PM

The worst wars are the necessary ones: the ones to do the right thing that no one wants to do but must be done to keep order amongst Nations.

No one wants to fight those.

Yet to remain civilized they must be fought.

Those are the wars against those who betray their treaties and cease-fires and will not be held accountable to what they promised as a leader of a Nation. No one wants those wars. It is like having to shoot a rabid animal: necessary to prevent the spread of the disease, but there is no joy in it.

ajacksonian on September 10, 2013 at 9:58 PM

Jokers to the left of me, jokers to the right……here we are stuck in the middle with you.

The Clown Car Presidency veers out of control as the lead clown honks his big horn.

Ahhhhhh, ooooooggggahhh.

http://atomicgator.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/asdfadf.jpg

PappyD61 on September 10, 2013 at 9:58 PM

Amen. :) May God fill us back up with peace. :) –Though, you know, we need to eat.

Axe on September 10, 2013 at 9:57 PM

I like to eat too.:)

22044 on September 10, 2013 at 9:59 PM

PappyD61 on September 10, 2013 at 9:58 PM

The Insane Rodeo Clown Posse Going International!

The Stupid is on the Move.

ajacksonian on September 10, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Summary of Obama’s speech.

1. Chemical weapons are bad.
2. We are not the world’s policeman.
3. We need to take military action to send Assad a message.
4. There will be no boots on the ground.
5. We need to pause military action – that nobody wants – to allow a possible diplomatic solution initiated by the Russians, who nobody trusts.

TarheelBen on September 10, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Allen West probably pulled over and punched out that post on the side of the road. Then started up his Harley again, and pushed on for DC.

wolly4321 on September 10, 2013 at 10:00 PM

D*mmitt,I Ka-Botched/DeBaucherized the Transcript,..ugh,a double posty!

When dictators commit atrocities, they depend upon the world to look the other way until those horrifying pictures fade from memory, but these things happened. The facts cannot be denied.

The question now is what the United States of America and the international community is prepared to do about it, because what happened to those people — to those children — is not only a violation of international law, it’s also a danger to our security. Let me explain why.

When dictators commit atrocities, they depend upon the world to look the other way until those horrifying pictures fade from memory, but these things happened. The facts cannot be denied.

The question now is what the United States of America and the international community is prepared to do about it, because what happened to those people — to those children — is not only a violation of international law, it’s also a danger to our security. Let me explain why.

canopfor on September 10, 2013 at 10:01 PM

“Thank you, God bless you, and God bless the United States of America”.
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canopfor on September 10, 2013 at 9:49 PM

He even sucks at “plagiarism”. LOL. Hell, with a teleprompter, Joe Biden could have said that…

Hillary would have insisted that it be added to all POTUS speech.

ndanielson on September 10, 2013 at 10:01 PM

Remember: chillun dying overseas is something we have to do something about.

I propose sending Planned Parenthood, instead.

ajacksonian on September 10, 2013 at 9:48 PM

Bang!

We kill one, they kill one. Makes us even.

patman77 on September 10, 2013 at 10:01 PM

I heard the President is distraught about the lives of the innocent children killed by chemical weapons and wants to launch a military strike?

So should they at least let the Planned Parenthood clinics staff clear out first?

PappyD61 on September 10, 2013 at 10:03 PM

22044 on September 10, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Needed, thank you.

bazil9 on September 10, 2013 at 10:03 PM

My fellow Americans, for nearly seven decades, the United States has been ~ President Barrack Obama, “The Syria Speech”

My fellow Americans… four score and seven years ago…our forefathers…

:)

thatsafactjack on September 10, 2013 at 10:04 PM

Certainty Obama deserves another Noble Peace Prize for keeping himself from starting WWIII.

VorDaj on September 10, 2013 at 10:04 PM

WWAWD?

Hey Barack, hold your enemy closer…what would Allan West do?

ndanielson on September 10, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Summary of Obama’s speech.

1. Chemical weapons are bad.
2. We are not the world’s policeman.
3. We need to take military action to send Assad a message.
4. There will be no boots on the ground.
5. We need to pause military action – that nobody wants – to allow a possible diplomatic solution initiated by the Russians, who nobody trusts.

TarheelBen on September 10, 2013 at 9:59 PM

6. You right-wing wacko birds need to get behind this because there will be lots of Michael Bay ‘sploshuns, and everyone knows that’s all you care about.

Gator Country on September 10, 2013 at 10:06 PM

FOX NEWS TIMELINE just eviscerated O’Liar, Ketchup, Scary spRice and Howdy Dooties ugly f’n sister.

patman77 on September 10, 2013 at 10:06 PM

jrsrigmvr on September 10, 2013 at 9:55 PM

I think only jackasses look like Pee Wee Kerry. :) That’s why they’re the Democrats logo.

Good evening, Fred. :)

thatsafactjack on September 10, 2013 at 10:06 PM

Certainty Obama deserves another Noble Peace Prize for keeping himself from starting WWIII.

VorDaj on September 10, 2013 at 10:04 PM

Actually, I think he’s been nominated for the Nobel in Chemistry since he used the word “chemical” in a sentence.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 10, 2013 at 10:06 PM

Rolling Thunder on Steroids in DC tomorrow…Hogs, Indians, Kawasakis, even Hondas….rev ‘em up..head to DC…non-stop thunder run.

OK, Moto Guzzi’s, too.

Vespa’s?

C’mon…this is a thunder run.

coldwarrior on September 10, 2013 at 10:07 PM

What difference at this point does it make?

I wish Assad would throw down Obama on his abortion stance….

Obama could save MILLIONS of lives if only he would give up his
weapon of mass abortion on demand.

Number of babies aborted in one day in the U.S. today:
3,425……almost 10 times more than the kids killed in the gas attack…..

redguy on September 10, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Spongebob scene:

Bouncer: “Welcome to the Salty Spitoon. How tough are you?”

Thug: “How tough am I? How tough am I? I watched the Obama speech.”

Bouncer: “Yeah, so?”

Thug: “Without throwing up.”

Bouncer: “Uh, sorry, sir, go right in.”

The Rogue Tomato on September 10, 2013 at 10:07 PM

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Reuters World ‏@ReutersWorld 5m

READ: French draft resolution gives Syria government 15 days to make declaration of chemical weapons http://reut.rs/14jsGrg
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A French draft UN Security Council (UNSC) resolution would give Syria 15 days to make complete declaration of entire chemical arms program. The resolution would demand immediate UN inspections of all sites based on Syria’s chemical weapons declaration, as well as demanding that Syria grant UN inspectors access to all chemical arms sites, personnel, records, equipment, and threatens Syria with further “necessary measures” in the event of a failure to comply. (Reuters Wire)

by Margarita Noriega (Reuters) 9:58 PM

http://live.reuters.com/Event/Syria_9

canopfor on September 10, 2013 at 10:08 PM

My fellow Americans… four score and seven years ago…our forefathers… :)

thatsafactjack on September 10, 2013 at 10:04 PM

In what certainly seems like four score and seven years ago, American voters, deceived by a man of a true nature most foul and his media propaganda ministers, brought forth, upon this Nation, a profoundly warped man, conceived who knows where for certain, who is dedicated to the proposition that all other men and women are created inferior and should be subservient to his every narcissistic will and whim.

Now we are engaged in a great battle, testing whether this nation, or any nation so burdened, and so assaulted, can long endure. We are met here on a great internet battlefield with compatriots in the Tea Party Freedom Movement and compatriots on blogs throughout the interne, of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of our lives in honor of our forefathers who dedicated their lives that this nation might live vigorous and free.
It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

It is for us, the living, to be dedicated to the restoration of freedom, liberty, rule of law, progress and sanity which our Founders so nobly brought about. It is for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us – that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they so long ago gave the full measure of devotion – that we here highly resolve that our Founding Fathers shall not have labored in vain, that this nation shall have a rebirth of freedom, and that this government will once again be of the people, by the people, and for the people, and that we will not allow throwback abominations like Barack Hussein Obama and his allies and his quislings and useful idiots like John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio to cause it, and it’s shinning light, to perish from the Earth.

VorDaj on September 10, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Rand Paul’s response is on Fox. CNN and MSLSD are not showing it.

TarheelBen on September 10, 2013 at 10:09 PM

What difference at this point does it make?

I wish Assad would throw down Obama on his abortion stance….

Obama could save MILLIONS of lives if only he would give up his
weapon of mass abortion on demand.

Number of babies aborted in one day in the U.S. today:
3,425……almost 10 times more than the kids killed in the gas attack…..

redguy on September 10, 2013 at 10:07 PM

…and all done for the convenience of liberal women.

slickwillie2001 on September 10, 2013 at 10:10 PM

…hit 500…and no trolls!…why?

KOOLAID2 on September 10, 2013 at 10:11 PM

And so to my friends on the right, I ask you to reconcile your commitment to America’s military might with the failure to act when a cause is so plainly just.

To my friends on the left, I ask you to reconcile your belief in freedom and dignity for all people with those images of children writhing in pain and going still on a cold hospital floor, for sometimes resolutions and statements of condemnation are simply not enough.~President Barrack Obama “The Syria Speech”

IN other words… shame on all of you who said “No” to me… I want my way and I’m going to have my way… I WILL ,I WILL, I WILL! (Stomps foot, thrusts out lower lip, balls up fists, and runs to his ‘quarters’)

thatsafactjack on September 10, 2013 at 10:12 PM

Rolling Thunder on Steroids in DC tomorrow…Hogs, Indians, Kawasakis, even Hondas….rev ‘em up..head to DC…non-stop thunder run.

OK, Moto Guzzi’s, too.

Vespa’s?

C’mon…this is a thunder run.

coldwarrior on September 10, 2013 at 10:07 PM

coldwarrior:Lol,


Husqvarna,Penta’s,BSA,Norton’s,Benelli’s,Zespa’s,Triumphs,……-:0

canopfor on September 10, 2013 at 10:12 PM

thatsafactjack on September 10, 2013 at 10:06 PM

HI

Fred

jrsrigmvr on September 10, 2013 at 10:13 PM

VorDaj on September 10, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Bravo! Well done, indeed, and well said, VorDaj. Thank you.

thatsafactjack on September 10, 2013 at 10:15 PM

…hit 500…and no trolls!…why?

KOOLAID2 on September 10, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Sophie’s “Obama + Unicorn” Google search thinned them out like flypaper. :)

Axe on September 10, 2013 at 10:16 PM

The worst wars are the necessary ones: the ones to do the right thing that no one wants to do but must be done to keep order amongst Nations.

No one wants to fight those.

Yet to remain civilized they must be fought.

Those are the wars against those who betray their treaties and cease-fires and will not be held accountable to what they promised as a leader of a Nation. No one wants those wars. It is like having to shoot a rabid animal: necessary to prevent the spread of the disease, but there is no joy in it.

ajacksonian on September 10, 2013 at 9:58 PM

Of course.

Dulce et decorum est, pro patria mori.

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 10, 2013 at 10:16 PM

And so to my friends on the right

I thought we were Obama’s “enemy”? But, when he needs our votes we’re friends? I. Don’t. Think. So. Scumbag.

txhsmom on September 10, 2013 at 10:17 PM

I love the desperate man headline. Rand Paul’s rebuttal was terrific. Rove’s critique of Rand was unimpressive. He ignores the fact that the alternative to Assad is worse.

Basilsbest on September 10, 2013 at 10:17 PM

************** Rand Paul Response ***********************!!

Senator Rand Paul ‏@SenRandPaul 9m

Want to hear my response to @BarackObama’s #Syria speech? Click here to watch now:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE8jeD-uB7U
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Sen. Rand Paul Delivers Response to President’s Speech on Military Action in Syria – 9/10/13
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE8jeD-uB7U

canopfor on September 10, 2013 at 10:17 PM

And so to my friends on the right, I ask you to reconcile your commitment to America’s military might with the failure to act when a cause is so plainly just.

Sorry, you rat-eared bastard, you are not my friend and I seriously doubt you have any friends at all on the “right”. The only “friends” you really have are burning in Hell, and they can’t wait for you to join them.

TXUS on September 10, 2013 at 10:18 PM

Sophie’s “Obama + Unicorn” Google search thinned them out like flypaper. :)

Axe on September 10, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Those pics are like Raid.

Resist We Much on September 10, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Obama is now the ultimate lame duck President… He will have zero power to enact anything… More time to play golf…

mnjg on September 10, 2013 at 10:19 PM

IN other words… shame on all of you who said “No” to me… I want my way and I’m going to have my way… I WILL ,I WILL, I WILL! (Stomps foot, thrusts out lower lip, balls up fists, and runs to his ‘quarters’)

thatsafactjack on September 10, 2013 at 10:12 PM

Hm. And look at his characterizations and the different ammunition he shouldered for each target. Now that you mention it.

Axe on September 10, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Why is it Rand Paul made more sense in his less than 5 minutes response speech than Obama did blabbering all over the map for over 15 minutes?!!!!!

pilamaye on September 10, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Rand Paul’s response is on Fox. CNN and MSLSD are not showing it.

TarheelBen on September 10, 2013 at 10:09 PM

TarheelBen:Here ya go:)
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Sen. Rand Paul Delivers Response to President’s Speech on Military Action in Syria – 9/10/13
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE8jeD-uB7U

canopfor on September 10, 2013 at 10:19 PM

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Senator Rand Paul ‏@SenRandPaul 8m

I’m unconvinced we have an interest in the Syrian War. May God help us make a wise decision here & avoid an unnecessary war. #RandResponds
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I wont vote to send my son, your son, or anyone’s daughter to war unless a compelling American interest is present. #RandResponds
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Senator Rand Paul ‏@SenRandPaul 9m

If the vote occurs, I will vote no & encourage my colleagues to do the same. The threshold for war should be a significant one #RandResponds
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Senator Rand Paul ‏@SenRandPaul 10m

The chance for diplomacy would not have occurred without strong voices against an immediate bombing campaign. #RandResponds
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Senator Rand Paul ‏@SenRandPaul 10m

The possibility of a diplomatic solution is a good thing, though we must proceed with caution on the details. #RandResponds
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Senator Rand Paul ‏@SenRandPaul 11m

Just about any bad outcome you can imagine is made more likely by U.S. involvement in the Syrian civil war. #RandResponds
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Senator Rand Paul ‏@SenRandPaul 11m

It must be asked: Would a US bombing campaign make it more or less likely that Assad loses control of the chemical weapons #RandResponds
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Senator Rand Paul ‏@SenRandPaul 12m

Unknown if attacking Assad encourages/discourages him. It’s likely that he could feel cornered &expand use of chemical weapons #RandResponds
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Senator Rand Paul ‏@SenRandPaul 12m

There’s no defined mission in Syria, no defined US interest. In fact, the Admin. has stated that no military solution exists #RandResponds
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If our enemies wish to know if America will defend herself, let them look no farther than our response to 9/11. #RandResponds
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canopfor on September 10, 2013 at 10:21 PM

VorDaj on September 10, 2013 at 10:09 PM

I note, too, that he said ‘no boots on the ground’ and that it wasn’t this nation’s job to police the world… and then turned on his heel and quoted Roosevelt’s anti-isolationist speech, clearly intended to leave the door open to sending in ‘boots on the ground’ in Syria.

The very notion that no one would have to go in with the international inspectors to verify the chemical weapons labs and stockpiles, build containment facilities to destroy them all, and then monitor the Syrians to see that they hadn’t stockpiled secret caches of WMD, or were given new masses of WMD by Iran et al, or began manufacturing WMD again….and we are talking YEARS…not ‘a week’… is ludicrous.

Kerry already said he thought it would take around 75,000 US troop IN Syria to destroy those chemical weapons.

Obama made a lot of noise about not wanting to go into Syria… he also said he has the authority to do it without congress.

Let’s face it. The rebels are losing. Obama backs those rebels, who are almost half al- quaeda. We have the rebels on video admitting that theyused chemical weapons.

Look at every other middle eastern nation Obama has touched during his presidency. Do you see any that are free or freer today than when he began?

thatsafactjack on September 10, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Old & Busted:

Assad giving up his chemical weapons without our military firing a single shot is a big victory for us…

mnjg on September 9, 2013 at 2:05 PM

New Hotness:

Obama is now the ultimate lame duck President… He will have zero power to enact anything… More time to play golf…

mnjg on September 10, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Resist We Much on September 10, 2013 at 10:22 PM

MeanWhile,the NY Mayor Circus:

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canopfor on September 10, 2013 at 10:23 PM

Obama-Kerry Clown Car Drives into the Ditch; Putin Tow-truck to the “Rescue”

After weeks and weeks of driving in circles, honking its horn, and trying without success to pick up new passengers, the Official Obama-Kerry Foreign Policy Clown Mobile just rolled into a ditch, and Putin is slowly backing up his tow-truck to “help.”

Kerry, the most unqualified Secretary of State since Hillary Clinton, has shown his mastery of ignorance and lack of knowledge of basic negotiating skills. In a garbled–what else from him?–statement to the press, John “Xmas in Cambodia” Kerry said,

… cont …

VorDaj on September 10, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Those pics are like Raid.

Resist We Much on September 10, 2013 at 10:19 PM

bloody assless chap convention

Axe on September 10, 2013 at 10:24 PM

NY Mayor Race:

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canopfor on September 10, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Resist We Much on September 10, 2013 at 10:22 PM

LOL! :)

thatsafactjack on September 10, 2013 at 10:24 PM

My guess is the primary purpose of this speech was to give the Democrats enough cover so they can support him. Then, when Republicans vote no, all the blame will go to them. I hope the Republicans force the Democrats to vote first on any authorization votes.

bflat879 on September 10, 2013 at 10:25 PM

can’t unclick. but — i always click. “You shouldn’t click!” *click*

story of my life

Axe on September 10, 2013 at 10:25 PM

I do not get the mental disorder these people have.

ajacksonian on September 10, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Because you’re not similarly afflicted with a mental disorder.

Midas on September 10, 2013 at 10:25 PM

And we are sending this one out for mnjg…over at Hot Air.

Thanks for listening.

coldwarrior on September 10, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Obama asks Congress to postpone Syria vote

Video: Republican Sen. Rand Paul’s response to US President Obama’s address on Syria – via @TPM

2 mins ago from livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com by editor
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http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/rand-paul-releases-pre-taped-response-to-obamas

canopfor on September 10, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Axe on September 10, 2013 at 10:19 PM

He knows no shame. A man who is covered in shame… and he can’t recognize it. Amazing.

thatsafactjack on September 10, 2013 at 10:28 PM

His people will be all over the airwaves saying it was his deft leadership and steely-eyed threat to use force that allowed for a diplomatic break.

So snug was here all these days testing the wh talking points. Our rebuttals were moot due to being high-info. What they wanted was a feel of how the LIV would take the bs.

Judging from oboobi’s speech, well done mnjg! But we all know who flinched first and that’s the pathetic losers pretending to be smart.

AH_C on September 10, 2013 at 10:29 PM

So, Hillary has weighed in, and all this does make a difference???

ndanielson on September 10, 2013 at 10:29 PM

And we are sending this one out for mnjg…over at Hot Air.

Thanks for listening.

coldwarrior on September 10, 2013 at 10:26 PM

coldwarrior:Veddy nice,and well-played:)

canopfor on September 10, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Obama-Kerry Clown Car Drives into the Ditch; Putin Tow-truck to the “Rescue”

After weeks and weeks of driving in circles, honking its horn, and trying without success to pick up new passengers, the Official Obama-Kerry Foreign Policy Clown Mobile just rolled into a ditch, and Putin is slowly backing up his tow-truck to “help.”

VorDaj on September 10, 2013 at 10:24 PM

But, who’s standing on the side of the road … sippin’ a Slurpee?

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 10, 2013 at 10:29 PM

VorDaj on September 10, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Reminds me of an old classic.

Tow Truck driver says to the truly stunning blond, “Well, yes, I can get your car out of the ditch, lady, easy. First time I ever pulled a pregnant lady out of a ditch, though.”

“Pregnant? I am not pregnant.”

“Ain’t out the the ditch yet, neither.”

coldwarrior on September 10, 2013 at 10:30 PM

“snug” should be “mnjg”

AH_C on September 10, 2013 at 10:30 PM

greetings. I might get fired tomorrow.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 10, 2013 at 10:31 PM

He knows no shame. A man who is covered in shame… and he can’t recognize it. Amazing.

thatsafactjack on September 10, 2013 at 10:28 PM

No Conscience = No Shame

bazil9 on September 10, 2013 at 10:32 PM

ajamlive @ajamlive
Senators McCain, Graham on Obama’s #Syria speech: alj.am/1aoPgQf twitter.com/ajamlive/statu…
10 minutes ago
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Senators John McCain (R-AZ) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) released the following statement regarding President Obama’s speech on Syria:
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We appreciate the President speaking directly to the American people about the conflict in Syria. We regret, however, that he did not speak more forcefully about the need to increase our military assistance to moderate opposition forces in Syria, such as the Free Syrian Army. We also regret that he did not lay out a clearer plan to test the seriousness of the Russian and Syrian proposal to transfer the Assad regime’s chemical weapons to international custody.

Such a plan would require the United States, together with our friends and allies, to immediately introduce a tough U.N. Security Council Resolution that lays out what steps Syria would have to take to give up its chemical weapons, including making a full and accurate declaration of all of its chemical weapons and granting international monitors unfettered access to all sites in Syria that possess these weapons. This Resolution would have to threaten serious consequences if the Assad regime does not comply, and it would have to be presented to the Security Council for an up or down vote. We would expect Russia and China to support such a Resolution without delay.

http://live.reuters.com/Event/Syria_9

canopfor on September 10, 2013 at 10:33 PM

Resist We Much on September 10, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Still living rent free in your head… A blogger obsessed with following another blogger on the internet…

mnjg on September 10, 2013 at 10:33 PM

…hit 500…and no trolls!…why?

KOOLAID2 on September 10, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Beat me to it.

Probably because even they can’t swallow this paper sack of h0rs& s#!t.

itsspideyman on September 10, 2013 at 10:35 PM

canopfor on September 10, 2013 at 10:33 PM

McCain needs to be sent to the “home” and now…right now!

Lindsay…well…he just needs to go to hell.

coldwarrior on September 10, 2013 at 10:35 PM

I’ve had a bit of a rough day as well, I will try out your suggestion.

All the best to gg & others who are having a rough day, or perhaps longer. May the God of mercy & grace make His presence known to us.

22044 on September 10, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Prayers for you, as well. His presence never fails, ever! THAT is what keeps peace within me.

herm2416 on September 10, 2013 at 10:36 PM

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