Video: WH worried that Syria loss will cripple Obama presidency

posted at 12:41 pm on September 9, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

In a parliamentary system, a rejection of a war authorization pushed by a prime minister could easily turn into a vote of no confidence and the end of a government.  In the American system, it might just mean the  end of the President’s credibility — and a historic humiliation for the Commander in Chief.  Chuck Todd tells Today that this is what is driving desperation at the White House, as Congress grows increasingly hostile to hostilities:

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Will the public buy the “patriotism” argument? That it’s our duty to intervene in the Syrian civil war because, er, America? Not only will that fail to convince anyone — and it’s certainly been tried over the past week and is failing so far — but that expresses even more desperation.  An old adage warns that “patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel,” but in this context it’s the last refuge of the desperately incompetent as well. In the earlier CNN poll, almost three-quarters of Americans reject the idea that this will address any national interest, and waving the flag isn’t an argument that will change a lot of minds on war.  It might change minds on Obama himself, though, and not for the better.

This is a perfect time to remind people of Morrissey’s Axiom: In politics and dating, desperation is not an aphrodisiac.


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WTF? Lauer said “the numbers are all over the place, but lean heavily against air strikes.”

I know, right? In a single breath Lauer fantasy wish-fulfilment gets contradicted by the facts.

casuist on September 9, 2013 at 1:30 PM

is this the typical level of intelligence of Obama supporters? because this idiot is totally retarded.

Murphy9 on September 9, 2013 at 1:30 PM

This. I can’t swear to it, but I think I might have seen Chris Matthews entering a crisis center earlier today…

BettyRuth on September 9, 2013 at 1:29 PM

in sagging diapers no doubt

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 1:31 PM

This thread needs a better class of troll.

PackerBronco on September 9, 2013 at 1:31 PM

fogw on September 9, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Indeed, Susan Rice, the liar-harlot…plus, Power, the communist at the UN “let’s do this illegally”.

One can’t make this up in the best of fiction.

I’d so hate to be a leftard.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 1:32 PM

is this the typical level of intelligence of Obama supporters? because this idiot is totally retarded.

Murphy9 on September 9, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Hell, it is one of the ‘smarter’ ones :)

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 1:32 PM

I wonder what will alquaida find interesting in Syria if there no chemical weapons there…..

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Expanding the Islamic caliphate.

Border on Israel.

Repudiation of Shia.

Jumping off point for taking Jordan next.

Just to put things in perspective here…

You guys are siding with Assad and Putin against the American president.

Except that we aren’t. There is nobody worth supporting in Syria. And there is zero national interest in attacking Assad.

NotCoach on September 9, 2013 at 1:33 PM

You guys are siding with Assad and Putin against the American president.
Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Its the right thing to do.

BobMbx on September 9, 2013 at 1:33 PM

You guys are siding with Assad and Putin against the American president.

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM

LOL. No one is siding with assad. The only people who EVER sided with assad were Barky, Pelousi and the idiot dems who broke the law to go have tea with the chinless turd and then came back declaring him to be “a real reformer” and a good guy – when everyone with a brain knew that Syria has been the same all through the assads and even before. You and yours loved assad and gave him aid and comfort.

Letting Syrians to continue killing each and keeping them occupied with that is not siding with assad, it’s serving the interests of our nation and the civilized world. But you and your assad loving morons have finally found a group that’s even crazier and more dangerous than assad – your al quaeda buddies – and you want to help the sweep of pan-islamism through the arab world. While the pan-arabists are dangerous turds, the pan-islamists are even worse … which is why you America-haters support them.

As to being against Precedent Dog-eating, America-hating Retard … I’m against all of his insane ideas that are designed to do nothing but harm American interests. He should be in an orange jumpsuit, at this point. He is a criminal and the most destructive force America ever saw in its lifetime. Sadly, he ended that run and we are now stuck in the American Socialist Superstate with you demented, treasonous turds.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 9, 2013 at 1:34 PM

I supported a limited attack, so maybe I see this differently than you. Grow up and quit the “bong” jokes

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 1:29 PM

From your perspective ………

Define limited strike.

Define target objectives.

Define end game.

Explain how waiting three weeks gives any military advantage to Generalissimo Obama.

fogw on September 9, 2013 at 1:34 PM

You guys are siding with Assad and Putin against the American president even bigger stupidity.
Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Free

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Just to put things in perspective here…
 
You guys are siding with Assad and Putin against the American president. You rather rush to give Putin credit and come up with stories in your head than saying that this would be a GREAT OUTCOME.

 

From the same post:
 

I wonder what will alquaida find interesting in Syria if there no chemical weapons there…..
 
Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM

 
Speaking of perspective here and “siding with”:
 
Today, on September 9th, can you tell us who we’d be helping with an attack? You already have, of course, but please tell us the name of their organization again.

rogerb on September 9, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Sure, take TODAY’s Kerry’s gaffe as an excuse. I supported a limited attack, so maybe I see this differently than you. Grow up and quit the “bong” jokes

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Do you eat your Cheerios with a fork?

NotCoach on September 9, 2013 at 1:35 PM

God, the HA trolls are stupid these days.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 1:35 PM

A no vote would be a consequence of Obama’s incoherent and inept foreign policy, or lack of one. He’s crippling his own presidency and the United States along with it.

RadClown on September 9, 2013 at 1:35 PM

You guys are siding with Assad and Putin against the American president.

I thought Obama said beneath the Column of Victory that he was a citizen of the world or something.

Anyway, yes, this is how badly Obama has botched the presidency. A majority of Americans now side with Putin and Assad over the White House. Choke on it.

casuist on September 9, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Chuck Todd TOAD is an Obama whore and apologist.

pat on September 9, 2013 at 12:47 PM

FIFY.

bofh on September 9, 2013 at 1:36 PM

I wonder what will alquaida find interesting in Syria if there no chemical weapons there…..

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Speaking of perspective here and “siding with”:

Today, on September 9th, can you tell us who we’d be helping with an attack? You already have, of course, but please tell us the name of their organization again.

rogerb on September 9, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Heh. That’ll leave a mark. Unfortunately, Can.I.be.in.the.taint is so marked up already that it will be hard to tell.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 9, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Sure, take TODAY’s Kerry’s gaffe as an excuse. I supported a limited attack, so maybe I see this differently than you. Grow up and quit the “bong” jokes

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 1:29 PM

I support a strike on Iran.

Syria should have been attacked when they helped to kill Americans in Iraq…grown up perspective, compared to your dove-brain.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Sure, take TODAY’s Kerry’s gaffe as an excuse. I supported a limited attack, so maybe I see this differently than you. Grow up and quit the “bong” jokes

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Today? Thats hardly the first embarrassment of this sort. They told us last week that the intervention would just be strong enough so it wouldnt be mocked.

The leaders of this administration make fools of themselves. We dont need to make jokes, because they ARE jokes. Dont blame Republicans for that.

Valkyriepundit on September 9, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Where is Drywall?

Hello?

BobMbx on September 9, 2013 at 1:38 PM

So now Captain McBomby Pants wants to wrap himself in the American Flag? Really?

Take a hike, Obama. You never loved America or her people so why start now? Step down to save your own face for crying out loud.

Key West Reader on September 9, 2013 at 1:38 PM

This thread needs a better class of troll.

PackerBronco on September 9, 2013 at 1:31 PM

*snicker*

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 1:38 PM

No shit.

Democrats: Victims of Their Own Success

Now, with 46 reasons!

Resist We Much on September 9, 2013 at 1:40 PM

We agree on this, and Obama’s principle is doing what’s in Obama’s best interest.

blink on September 9, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Which is always these two:

1. His own power and ego, and

2. Furthering his muzzie bros.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 1:41 PM

No shit.

Democrats: Victims of Their Own Success

Now, with 46 reasons!

Resist We Much on September 9, 2013 at 1:40 PM

In 57 States…

Thou shall not Mock!

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 1:41 PM

http://www.globalresearch.ca/why-qatar-wants-to-invade-syria/5306223

This is really a very interesting article.

As for the Emir’s humanitarian – not to mention democratic – ardor, it’s enlightening to check out what US President Barack Obama thinks about it. Obama – who defines the Emir as a “pretty influential guy” – seems to imply that even though “he himself is not reforming significantly” and “there’s no big move towards democracy in Qatar”, just because the emirate’s per capita income is humongous, a move towards democracy is not so pressing.

Washington – and arguably European customers – would be more than pleased with a crucial Pipelineistan gambit bypassing the Islamic Gas Pipeline.

And of course, if there’s regime change in Syria – helped by the Qatari-proposed invasion – things get much easier in Pipelineistan terms. A more than probable Muslim Brotherhood (MB) post-Assad regime would more than welcome a Qatari pipeline. And that would make an extension to Turkey much easier.

At the moment, Jordan’s Hashemite monarchy is wobbly – and that’s a transcendental understatement.

There’s a steady influx of Syrian refugees. Compound it with the Palestinian refugees that came in waves during the crucial phases of the Arab-Israeli war, in 1948, 1967 and 1973. Then add a solid contingent of Salafi-jihadis fighting Damascus. Only a few days ago one Abu Usseid was arrested. His uncle was none other than Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the infamous former head of al-Qaeda in Iraq, killed in 2006. Usseid was about to cross the desert from Jordan to Syria.

Amman has been mired in protests since January 2011 – even before the spread of the Arab Spring. King Abdullah, also known as King Playstation, and photogenic Washington/Hollywood darling Queen Rania, have not been spared.

PappyD61 on September 9, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Resist We Much on September 9, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Cool day today – glad you arrived :)

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 1:41 PM

So now Captain McBomby Pants wants to wrap himself in the American Flag? Really?

Take a hike, Obama. You never loved America or her people so why start now? Step down to save your own face for crying out loud.

Key West Reader on September 9, 2013 at 1:38 PM

A Flag with his own face on it…sipping Starbucks out of paper cups with a presidential seal on them

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 1:42 PM

So desperate is this administration that it sent out Obama’s political brain, David Axelrod, to sell Syria intervention with this yesterday:

‘[We have to] tak[e] the war to Syria so we don’t have to fight it on our shores.’

- David Axelrod, Meet the Press, 8 September 2013

Yeah, if that rings the ‘Bush Doctrine!’ bell, you’d be right!

Seriously, do they think that the rest of the country has fallen down the rabbit hole with them? If so, dude, they need to lay off the White Rabbit.

Resist We Much on September 9, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Murphy9 on September 9, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Hell, it is one of the ‘smarter’ ones :)

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 1:32 PM

I’m actually kind of in admiration that he’s the only lib trying to justify this fusterclark. He’s in there swinging you have to admit. The rest are hiding until the next same sex marriage thread.

smoothsailing on September 9, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Lots more here. The pieces are starting to fit together.

RushBaby on September 9, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Of course. It’s been clear for a while that controlling the energy sources and delivery has been the motivator of all of the jockeying for power/hegemony.

We were supposed to serve as lackeys to protect Saudi interests all along.

onlineanalyst on September 9, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Hah, why should congress give a damn about obama’s presidency?

He doesn’t give a damn about any of them.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM

In the American system, it might just mean the end of the President’s credibility — and a historic humiliation for the Commander in Chief.

Because it’s all about Obama isn’t it?

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 1:47 PM

You guys are siding with Assad and Putin against the American president. Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Not wanting to help your dog doesn’t mean I like the other one.

Your last SoS called Assad a reformer, and your current one had dinner with him. With the wives. In a restaurant, not just a state dinner.

And I wish the American president had a testosterone count more like Putin’s than his own.

So, go climb a rope.

Akzed on September 9, 2013 at 1:47 PM

He’s in there swinging suffering you have to admit. The rest are hiding until the next same sex marriage thread.

smoothsailing on September 9, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Must be hell to be them…their obama hates all of them, passionately. He made fools of them, one and all.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 1:47 PM

I’m actually kind of in admiration that he’s the only lib trying to justify this fusterclark. He’s in there swinging you have to admit. The rest are hiding until the next same sex marriage thread.

smoothsailing on September 9, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Bayam was making some weak swings last week doing, what he believed, to be his best Paul Wolfowitz impersonation.

NotCoach on September 9, 2013 at 1:47 PM

Obama’s own arrogance and hubris is bringing down his Presidency. Its like my mama always said if a man is busy hanging himself get out of the way and let him do it.

neyney on September 9, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Why is Chuck Todd’s facial hair so matted down and…..oh.

portlandon on September 9, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Chuck Todd, the WH stenographer-mouthpiece, looks like a talking vayjay with that matted facial hair.

onlineanalyst on September 9, 2013 at 1:48 PM

kingsjester on September 9, 2013 at 1:12 PM

heh.

See Peter Principle. ;)

bazil9 on September 9, 2013 at 1:48 PM

How many innocent Syrians must die to save Obama’s presidency?

How many American troops be put into harm’s way to save Obama’s presidency?

When we can’t afford to reopen the White House, how many Tomahawk missiles at $1.5 million apiece must be ‘shot across (Assad’s) bow’ to save Obama’s presidency?

Who bloody cares about whether we ‘save’ Obama’s presidency?

It’s not all about him.

Resist We Much on September 9, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 1:47 PM

Without a doubt.

smoothsailing on September 9, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Obama the “Smart”

NotCoach on September 9, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Obama the Revenger

“The Obama Confession: Secret Fear, Secret Fury.”

petefrt on September 9, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Syria can promise to surrender their weapons through some type of extended process. Our fleet leaves the area and people forget about Syria. Then, after Obama’s threats subside, Syria refuses and the game plays on. We’ve seen this play out several times.
blink on September 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM

Nah.

Syria will hand over some of the weapons because Putin has a larger strategy at play.

Fundamental shift on the World Stage sort of thingy…UN will play along and Europe will too.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 1:50 PM

All the more reason to vote no…

PatriotRider on September 9, 2013 at 1:51 PM

You guys are siding with Assad and Putin against the American president.

- Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM

We’re not ‘siding’ with anyone. We are saying that we aren’t going to support a war to save Obama’s face. He drew the red line. He’s the arrogant and incompetent narcissus, not us. He f*cked up and the overwhelming majority of Americans don’t believe that we should intervene in Syria’s civil war on behalf of Islamists to pull him out of the shitpile he created.

Resist We Much on September 9, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Well, so long as they’re worrying about the most important aspects of the question, all is well. /

Midas on September 9, 2013 at 1:52 PM

I wonder what will alquaida find interesting in Syria if there no chemical weapons there…..

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM

lol

That is all.

Del Dolemonte on September 9, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Grow up and quit the “bong” jokes

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Put down the crack pipe, and demonstrate you’re capable of a grown-up, serious discussion.

Midas on September 9, 2013 at 1:55 PM

It’s obvious that President Red Line and his staff have no sense of humor or irony. Otherwise, they could not make the ‘patriotism’ argument with a straight face.

It’s certainly cracking me up.

jclittlep on September 9, 2013 at 1:55 PM

US Refuses To Admit Checkmate By Russia And Syria, Redirects Purpose Of Military Incursion: Admits Regime Change Intention

WH rubes are busily tweeting mixed-messages about regime change, Israel, whatever they think may stick to the way is what they’re throwing at the moment.

This witless crew has no plan, no strategy. They have nothing but desperation.

casuist on September 9, 2013 at 1:58 PM

There is no need to worry about this being the “end of the President’s credibility.” That took place a long time ago.

But it is worth keeping in mind that had Al Qaeda attacked the US with chemical weapons, most Syrians would be dancing in the street in celebration, much like they always do.

CTimbo on September 9, 2013 at 1:58 PM

You guys are siding with Assad and Putin against the American president.
Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Actually, I’m siding with America against the American president.

trigon on September 9, 2013 at 1:59 PM

Best case scenario…Obama plays Golf for the next 3 years and we elect more competent conservatives to Congress.

In 2016 we elect a Conservative for POTUS to clean up the mess and Europe decides we just had a “Crazy King Episode” cause they’ve had plenty of those in their own history.

Our New Conservatives focus on cleaning up the mess that used to be a vibrant economy and lays the groundwork in rebuilding our military because by then China will have a serious Navy to contend with.

If we offer an intelligent,principled and reliable alternative…Putin cannot sustain his savior act.

None of this will be possible as long as Washington DC remains corrupted and entrenched…Serious Reform must take place.

Frack Independently & Secure our Borders.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 1:59 PM

You guys are siding with Assad and Putin against the American president.

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM

… no… but curious that this comes from the side that sided with Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda against an American president…

… and the side that wants to side with al-Qaeda again… say, what’s up with that, champ?

Midas on September 9, 2013 at 1:59 PM

US Refuses To Admit Checkmate By Russia And Syria, Redirects Purpose Of Military Incursion: Admits Regime Change Intention

WH rubes are busily tweeting mixed-messages about regime change, Israel, whatever they think may stick to the way is what they’re throwing at the moment.

This witless crew has no plan, no strategy. They have nothing but desperation.

casuist on September 9, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Feckless Floundering…It’s what’s for Breakfast

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 2:01 PM

it might just mean the end of the President’s credibility — and a historic humiliation for the Commander in Chief

He always wanted to be historic.

Be careful what you wish for, Barry. Sometimes, you get it.

AZCoyote on September 9, 2013 at 2:01 PM

This will piss you off.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/357937/tallying-house-vote-syria-robert-costa

Right now, the number of House Republicans planning to back the Syria resolution is stuck at about two dozen, according to the unofficial count several aides are keeping. “We’re not counting for the conference, but some of us are keeping tallies, and it’s looking horrible,” says a source within the leadership’s circle. “I’d say 30 to 40 Republicans, at most, are privately supportive.”

Eric Cantor is coordinating the effort to boost Republican support. Ever since he endorsed a military strike, in a statement last week, he has been working the phones and softly selling the merits of intervention.

“I think the majority leader has been instrumental,” says Representative Richard Hudson, an undecided freshman from North Carolina. “That op-ed was important to me because I was looking to see and read more from our leadership.

Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (Calif.)
Phil Gingrey (R., Ga.)
are supposedly undecided.

If you live in Hudson, McCarthy or Gingrey’s districts you better get on the phone and let them know how you feel. Or the gop leadership is going to hand Obama another win, and American soldiers will pay the price in another bloody desert hellhole.

PappyD61 on September 9, 2013 at 2:01 PM

But it is worth keeping in mind that had Al Qaeda attacked the US with chemical weapons, most Syrians would be dancing in the street in celebration, much like they always do.

CTimbo on September 9, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Because they all Unite against the Great Satan Infidels & Israel.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 2:02 PM

If Assad accepts Putins offer to remove his chemical weapons… and the “rebels” must agree to the same… then no strikes would be needed.

Problem solved.

No Bama.

profitsbeard on September 9, 2013 at 2:02 PM

PappyD61 on September 9, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Yeah…It’s become a giant d*ckwaggin’ circle jerk of saving face…

How very old skool japanese.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Meanwhile this:

Obama Slashes Proposed Military Pay Raise Almost In Half—While Promoting A Syrian War

This news item seems to have gone unnoticed. It was among the Friday news dump before the start of the Labor Day weekend. Obama bypasses Congress once again by cutting the recommended 1.8 pay raise hike by almost half for the military.

Obama can’t seem to find the funds for our military (the only constitutional responsibility of the Federal government). However, Obama has no problem finding tax payer funds for the numerous lavish vacations, for IRS agent bonuses and IRS abuses, the tax dollars wasted on portraits of EPA’s Lisa Jackson, $2.2 million to study Lesbian obesity, and other taxpayer misuse of funds too numerous to mention….

If approved, a 1.0 percent raise equals $3.79 a week more (before taxes) for a newly joined member of the Armed Forces….

During the Obama years, his pay raise approvals for the Services have seen a steady decline as cited by CNSNews.com:

2009 – 3.9%
2010 – 3.4%
2011 – 1.4%
2012 – 1.6%
2013 – 1.7%
2014 – 1.0%

The Obama presidency deserves to be crippled.

He speaks of ‘my’ military and thinks of troops as his little green army men rather than individuals who have families. He wants them to live on a pittance while he lives the high life on our dime.

INC on September 9, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Obama lose credibility over Syria? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, that ships done sailed.

DDay on September 9, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Ha ha ha ha. Wow, you really are a dupe.

blink on September 9, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Lucky Pierre isn’t the only one…

Good, we have won the standoff against Assad if he has agreed to destroy his chemical weapons as just reported… That is the power of the USA, the mere threat of force and our enemies give up…

mnjg on September 9, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Just like:

The British

The Spanish

The Mexicans

Imperial Germany

Imperial Japan

Nazi Germany

Fascist Italy

The Soviet Union

North Korea

The Viet Cong

Saddam Hussein

The Taliban

Al-Qaeda

Afghanistan

Moammar Qaddafi

AQIM

AQIL

AQAP

Iran

Yeppers, they all gave up after the US merely threatened them!

Idiocracy, we’re here!!!

Resist We Much on September 9, 2013 at 2:05 PM

“WH worried that Syria loss will cripple Obama presidency”

We can only hope.

kjatexas on September 9, 2013 at 2:06 PM

A Flag with his own face on it…sipping Starbucks out of paper cups with a presidential seal on them

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 1:42 PM

He should use the ObamaFlag and not desecrate Old Glory.

“All that for a f**g flag?”

/Mockity Mock Mock Mock Happy Monday!

Key West Reader on September 9, 2013 at 2:09 PM

If Assad accepts Putins offer to remove his chemical weapons… and the “rebels” must agree to the same… then no strikes would be needed.

Problem solved.

No Bama.

profitsbeard on September 9, 2013 at 2:02 PM

“See, I knew my Nobel prize means something. This was my plan all along, world” — obama, The Tiny

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 2:10 PM

I agree with H. B. Piper”

Force, he believed, was the last resort of incompetence; he had said so frequently enough since this operation had begun. Of course, he was absolutely right, though not in the way he meant. Only the incompetent wait until the last extremity to use force, and by then, it is usually too late to use anything, even prayer.

From A Slave is a Slave, 1962

No Truce With Kings on September 9, 2013 at 2:10 PM

I support attacking Syria for the use to chemical weapons and to cripple their ability to do it again.
 
Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 1:14 PM

 

I supported a limited attack, so maybe I see this differently than you.
 
Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 1:29 PM

 

I wonder what will alquaida find interesting in Syria if there no chemical weapons there…..
 
Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM

 
Speaking of perspective here and “siding with”:
 
Today, on September 9th, can you tell us who we’d be helping with an attack? You already have, of course, but please tell us the name of their organization again.
 
rogerb on September 9, 2013 at 1:35 PM

 
All done already, Can.I.be.in.the.middle?
 
Weird. It was such an easy question.

rogerb on September 9, 2013 at 2:15 PM

It really is surprising that Obama decided to go all-in with such a weak hand as this. Is he so arrogant as to believe he could win this with a simple charm offensive?

mitchellvii on September 9, 2013 at 1:07 PM

LOL. He certainly is. Barry is the same guy who insisted in 2008 that he could charm the Iranian mullahs out of their nuclear ambitions by simply flashing his pearly-whites at them and regaling them with stories of how he once attended a madrassa as a six-year-old in Indonesia.

It’s beyond arrogance or hubris. It’s a serious mental disorder.

AZCoyote on September 9, 2013 at 2:16 PM

He always wanted to be historic.

AZCoyote on September 9, 2013 at 2:01 PM


In the end, everyone agreed he was historic.

petefrt on September 9, 2013 at 2:17 PM

He speaks of ‘my’ military and thinks of troops as his little green army men rather than individuals who have families. He wants them to live on a pittance while he lives the high life on our dime.

INC on September 9, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Yep, and worse, he treats them with absolute contempt.

RushBaby on September 9, 2013 at 2:24 PM

You guys are siding with Assad and Putin against the American president.

- Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM

I suppose you’d amend the Constitution to read that all declarations of war are worded before Congress thusly, “Do you support the American President or [fill-in-convenient-enemy]“?

So you support any military action, by any president, for any reason, by arguing that to oppose it would be siding with whomever against the President?

The “choice” is Syria is between Al Queda and Iran. Let us know which one you choose. I choose arming the Copts in Egypt.

mankai on September 9, 2013 at 2:26 PM

God, the HA trolls are stupid these days.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 1:35 PM

It’s that stench of desperation that is clearly NOT an aphrodisiac.

John the Libertarian on September 9, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Let’s face it. Obama is well on his way to wandering the streets of DC and calling himself Emperor Norton II.

trigon on September 9, 2013 at 2:30 PM

end of the President’s credibility

Too late.

TerryW on September 9, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Putin Takes Advantage of Kerry Blunder
via Breitbart.com

In what looks like an off-the-cuff blunder, Secretary of State John Kerry might have accidentally given Russian President Vladmir Putin the opportunity to muddy the international diplomatic waters and buy his friends in Syria some time.

During a press briefing on Monday, Kerry said that Assad could avoid American air strikes by giving up all his chemical weapons within a week. Within hours, the State Department was forced to walk Kerry’s new red line back with the claim that he was making a “rhetorical argument about the impossibility and unlikelihood of Assad turning over chemical weapons he has denied he used.”

It seems, then, reasonable to conclude that Kerry spoke out of turn. Kerry was not authorized to offer Syria an “out” or a new ultimatum. But Kerry’s hypothetical hyperbole appears to have already backfired.

In an obvious desire to make Kerry pay for his flub and throw a wrench in Obama’s determination to go to war with Syria, Putin has seized upon Kerry’s hypothetical and called on Syria to accept Kerry’s offer and turn over all of its chemical weapons. No one believes Assad would ever willingly give up his chemical weapons, but should he agree to an offer the Obama administration did not mean to make, it could stall American action for weeks and even months.

Syria is already warming to the idea.

This complication could be a major blow to all of the Obama administration’s prepared plans to punish Assad for using the weapons …

petefrt on September 9, 2013 at 2:31 PM

You guys are siding with Assad and Putin against the American president.

Well, no. I don’t give a flying fig about any of those 3. I’m siding with the American people and the American national interest. It’s unfortunate that the American president doesn’t see things the same way. His team is crowing about how Congress is being forced to eat crow, apparently ignoring what a buffoon Obama is being portrayed as on the world stage.

hawksruleva on September 9, 2013 at 2:32 PM

I KNOW . . . that all of Obama’s successes over here, are crippling the U.S.

listens2glenn on September 9, 2013 at 2:38 PM

mnjg is being pulverized in the new thread on Russia.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 2:39 PM

… last refuge of the desperately incompetent …

Be careful of the “last refuge of the desperately incompetent”.

Be VERY careful.

The temper tantrum could be earth shattering.

Or at least extremely “transformational”.

Carnac on September 9, 2013 at 2:49 PM

You guys are siding with Assad and Putin against the American president.

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM

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No, Assad and Putin are siding with us … albeit over different motives.

listens2glenn on September 9, 2013 at 2:50 PM

OT…But enjoy

“13 Democrats Charged With Embezzling $16 Million In Federal Grants For AIDS Charities And Other Needy Programs! Rev. Wright Daughter Among Those Charged…”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/09/13-democrats-charged-with-embezzling-16-million-in-federal-grants-for-aids-charities-and-other-needy-programs-rev-wright-daughter-among-those-charged/

Karma Dominoes!

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 2:54 PM

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 2:54 PM

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“These are obviously ‘false’ charges, conjured by a right-wing conspiracy.”

Seriously … how long will it take for that to become the “meme” or “talking points”?

Thanx for posting that. You probably beat Ed or Allah to it.

listens2glenn on September 9, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Regardless of how one might feel about the prudence/necessity of a strike on Syria, don’t you have to admit that the sight of the left leaning media falling all over themselves trying to gin up GOP for it is kind of funny. Many of these same news folks ragged on Bush for his war efforts but now they’re worried about BO taking a credibility hit?

katiejane on September 9, 2013 at 3:03 PM

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 2:54 PM

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“These are obviously ‘false’ charges, conjured by a right-wing conspiracy.”

Seriously … how long will it take for that to become the “meme” or “talking points”?

Thanx for posting that. You probably beat Ed or Allah to it.

listens2glenn on September 9, 2013 at 3:01 PM

But wait there’s more…NY Post is having a field day with the Lust Demon Kennedy’s diary.

Today…Mr. Kennedy has choice observances on fellow comrades Jackson,Sharpton,Cuomo

link http://nypost.com/2013/09/09/diary-bombshell-rfks-secret-slams-against-al-sharpton-jesse-jackson-and-gov-cuomo/

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 3:43 PM

You guys are siding with Assad and Putin against the American president.

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM

this *american* … ‘president’ … who is a KNOWN LIAR

and you can’t believe a word he or his Regime officials say ….

Watch America! ~> what is REALLY going on in Syria ~> [VIDEO] Syrian man pleads with West not to support Al Qaeda http://fw.to/kox1LUh

What Happens When You Can’t Believe A Thing The President Says? http://onforb.es/1cP90xs via @forbes

exodus2011 on September 9, 2013 at 4:22 PM

I think the President’s credibility ended some time ago. Only in his mind does he think he is doing a fabulous job as President.

mixplix on September 9, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Where is Drywall?

Hello?

BobMbx on September 9, 2013 at 1:38 PM

In the Dildo Newfoundland ( yes, it exists)slammer for molesting a moose.

katy the mean old lady on September 9, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Bmore, wherever you are…you’re missed.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 6:05 PM

Bmore

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 6:05 PM

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