Gaffe-tastic: Hillary pretty excited about Kerry’s accidental proposal for international control of Syria’s WMD arsenal

posted at 4:41 pm on September 9, 2013 by Allahpundit

David Cameron sounds pretty excited about it too. Did Waffles bumble his way into a “solution” to the crisis? Here’s the presumptive Democratic nominee creating a little rhetorical space for her party to declare victory and walk away:

“If the regime immediately surrendered its stockpiles to international control, as was suggested by Secretary [John] Kerry and the Russians, that would be an important step,” Clinton said. “But this cannot be another excuse for delay or obstruction. Russia has to support the international community’s efforts sincerely, or be held to account.”

Clinton also defended Obama’s push for strikes as instrumental in making such a political settlement possible.

“It is very important to note that this discussion that has taken hold today, about potential international control over Syria’s stockpiles, only could take place in the context of a credible military threat by the United States to keep pressure on the Syrian government as well as those supporting Syria, like Russia,” she said.

GOP Rep. Mike Rogers, chair of the House Intel Committee and devout hawk, made the same point earlier. Apparently, if not for Obama’s heroic half-hearted saber-rattling, Assad would be free to flaunt his chemical weapons openly instead of pretending to turn them over while continuing to slaughter Sunnis en masse. There’s your Hillary 2016 foreign-policy bumper sticker.

This isn’t the only help she’s given to the White House on the big Syria push either; she called Schumer and Mark Pryor this past weekend to try to sell them on voting yes. Pryor, as far as I know, is still a firm no today on attacking. Meanwhile, in Syria:

Ace asks: With Obama headed for catastrophe in Congress on Syria, why would Putin and Assad offer to bail him out by backing the big “international WMD confiscation” charade? The answer, I think, is that there’s risk for them too in a U.S. attack. Even if the first round is “unbelievably small,” there’s no guarantee that there wouldn’t be a second round and that that would be bigger. When you’re winning on the battlefield, as Assad is, you do what you can to keep the west’s hyperpower away. To turn the question around, what’s to be gained at this point by brinksmanship with O over the boutique issue of chemical weapons? Assad’s already defied him on the red line; Obama’s already been humiliated by the spectacle of Congress and the public turning against his Syria adventure. No one in the west, the White House included, seems willing to do anything to stop Assad from killing tens of thousands more people so long as he uses conventional weapons. The interested players on Assad’s side don’t want to defeat the U.S. in Syria, they simply want the U.S. to keep its distance while they advance their interests. If that means helping O save face (while quietly boasting that he needed his nemesis, Vladimir Putin, to bail him out), that’s fine. In fact, there’s a bonus for them in all this in reinforcing the “international norm” that weapons inspections, not military strikes, are the way to go to prevent bad actors from acting out. That’ll come in handy for Iran later when Israel announces that the moment of truth for their enrichment facilities has come.

Two clips for you here, one of Hillary endorsing Kerry’s idea (with qualifications) and the other of Harry Reid going full Godwin to try to move fencesitters in Congress. It’ll be fun, if the White House ends up backing the Kerry gaffe/plan, to watch party hacks like Reid instantly shift from “you can’t contain to a neo-Hitler like Assad!” to “well, I guess you can.” Kerry did say this was another Munich situation, right? Exit quotation via John Sexton:



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What a babe!

OmahaConservative on September 9, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Looks like Obama may get out of this yet…. Pitiful…

sandee on September 9, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Kerry’s scurrying to find a way but Obama just wants to take his new toys and blow up things. If this wasn’t so deadly serious it would be knee slapping hilarious.

rplat on September 9, 2013 at 4:44 PM

So, Her Royal Thighness is jumping on this ship?

Obama hits new low on foreign policy in CNN polling

‘…a new national poll indicates the president’s approval rating on foreign policy has hit an all-time low. And only three in ten approve of how he is handling Syria.

Only four in ten approve of the job Obama is doing on foreign policy, with 57% of those questioned giving the president a thumbs down. The 40% approval rating on foreign policy is Obama’s lowest level ever on that issue in CNN polling.

“President Obama’s approval rating on foreign affairs has continued its steady decline – from 54% in January to 49% in April, 44% in June, and just 40% now,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. “This may be a troubling sign for a president who in past polls had always scored his highest ratings for his handling of foreign affairs.”

Specifically on Syria, only 31% of the public approves of the president’s policies and actions, with 63% giving him a thumbs down.

Resist We Much on September 9, 2013 at 4:44 PM

I see her facial “procedures” are coming along nicely.

By time she starts her campaign – she will look like Chelsea.

Oh no – wait …………..

jake-the-goose on September 9, 2013 at 4:45 PM

It is very simple:

US threatens a strike against Assad to deter and degrade his chemical weapons…

Assad gives up and agrees to hand his chemical weapons to the UN for destruction…

US Wins…

mnjg on September 9, 2013 at 4:46 PM

She’s a real leader, that gal.

Akzed on September 9, 2013 at 4:48 PM

It is very simple:

US threatens a strike against Assad to deter and degrade his chemical weapons…

Assad gives up and agrees to hand his chemical weapons to the UN for destruction…

US Wins…

mnjg on September 9, 2013 at 4:46 PM

What a tool! You are the poster boy of a liberal. Lying tool.

Vince on September 9, 2013 at 4:48 PM

mnjg on September 9, 2013 at 4:46 PM

BS… Go back to KOS where they believe your crap…

sandee on September 9, 2013 at 4:50 PM

What a babe!

OmahaConservative on September 9, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Dang, now I have to clean my display! Gotta learn to put down my coffee before I peruse HotAir :-)

yubley on September 9, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Gullible.

kingsjester on September 9, 2013 at 4:50 PM

I see her facial “procedures” are coming along nicely.

By time she starts her campaign – she will look like Chelsea.

Oh no – wait …………..

jake-the-goose on September 9, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Hmmmm…..could be some useful fodder there…..close up of facelift scars, fat sucking, other cosmetic surgery, etc.

Getting ready to rumble in the primary. I also hear she has hired a European speech instructor to help her with the proper accent and syntax when speaking in different regions in the US, so she can get her “I ain’t no ways tired, ya’ll” groove on.

BobMbx on September 9, 2013 at 4:50 PM

David Cameron sounds pretty excited about it too.

David Cameron got caught leaving a red box of secret documents on board a public train…and the photos were published in the UK dailies.

So I’d bet he’s easily excitable.

OOF!

Putin throws Obama a bone.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Look at that evil mug, eyes that watched as 4 American men were killed while the conniving brain behind it calculated the political costs of attempting to rescue them or not.

Killary scares me more than Dog Eater.

Bishop on September 9, 2013 at 4:51 PM

The indentation on the top of Hil’s forehead used to be her belly button.

kingsjester on September 9, 2013 at 4:51 PM

She’s a real leader, that gal.

Akzed on September 9, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Benghazi…US Policy Triumph!

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Why do I have a feeling that Assad turning over his CW’s will turn out like Obama’s cash for clunkers program.

HumpBot Salvation on September 9, 2013 at 4:52 PM

The indentation on the top of Hil’s forehead used to be her belly button.

kingsjester on September 9, 2013 at 4:51 PM

One more lift and she’ll have a goatee.

HumpBot Salvation on September 9, 2013 at 4:52 PM

US threatens a strike against Assad to deter and degrade his chemical weapons… Assad gives up and agrees to hand his chemical weapons to the UN for destruction… US Wins… mnjg on September 9, 2013 at 4:46 PM

He insists that he hasn’t used them. There’s no proof that he did that I’ve seen. Why should he turn them over?

Kerry said the strike, if it occurs, would be unbelievably small. So why not just brace yourself, take it, keep your CW, and sic your sleeper cells in the US on a few malls or hospitals with shotguns?

Oh, and why do you equate 0b00ba getting his way with “US wins”? Those two concepts are inversely proportionate to one another.

Akzed on September 9, 2013 at 4:53 PM

It testifies to the incompetence of this admin that a massive win for Putin might be the best case scenario for America.

rob verdi on September 9, 2013 at 4:53 PM

It is very simple:

mnjg on September 9, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Did you write that on your hands, Messina?

Bishop on September 9, 2013 at 4:53 PM

It is very simple:

US threatens a strike against Assad to deter and degrade his chemical weapons…

Assad gives up and agrees to hand his chemical weapons to the UN for destruction…

US Wins…

mnjg on September 9, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Assad is not Qaddaffi, who gave up his nuclear program (that the US didn’t know about) in return for not invading Libya.

And who shall we attempt this 1-2 punch plan on next? N. Korea? Russia itself?

BobMbx on September 9, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Ace asks: With Obama headed for catastrophe in Congress on Syria, why would Putin and Assad offer to bail him out by backing the big “international WMD confiscation” charade?

A significant portion of Assad’s forces are dedicated to guarding, maintaining, and deploying the chemical weapons if required. If he can hand that off to blue-helmets for the duration of the war with the rebels, those forces can be reassigned to put down the rebellion.

slickwillie2001 on September 9, 2013 at 4:53 PM

They are all certifiable.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Meanwhile…

The White House insisted Monday that it was legally able to launch a strike on Syria without congressional approval even as it intensified its courting of lawmakers to support military action.

White House counsel Kathryn Ruemmler told the New York Times that a strike would be lawful under both domestic and international law.

Er…

Ban Ki-moon, Secretary-General of the United Nations, has warned that a strike against Syria without a mandate from the UN Security Council would be ILLEGAL. His Special Envoy on Syria stated:

‘Syria is in very, very serious trouble, and we have been asked from time to time, ‘What about use of force by members of the international community?’ We say what international law says AND INTERNATIONAL LAW SAYS THAT NO COUNTRY IS ALLOWED TO TAKE THE LAW INTO THEIR HANDS; THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE SECURITY COUNCIL.’

– Lakhdar Brahimi, United Nations Special Envoy on Syria

And…

War Powers Resolution Act

50 U.S.C. § 1541 – Purpose and policy

(a) Congressional declaration

It is the purpose of this chapter to fulfill the intent of the framers of the Constitution of the United States and insure that the collective judgment of both the Congress and the President will apply to the introduction of United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, and to the continued use of such forces in hostilities or in such situations.

(b) Congressional legislative power under necessary and proper clause

Under article I, section 8, of the Constitution, it is specifically provided that the Congress shall have the power to make all laws necessary and proper for carrying into execution, not only its own powers but also all other powers vested by the Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any department or officer hereof.

(c) Presidential executive power as Commander-in-Chief; limitation

The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to:

(1) a declaration of war,

(2) specific statutory authorisation, or

(3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.

Has Syria declared war on the United States?

No, but AQ has and it is part of the ‘rebels’ of whom we are asked to arm and assist.

Is there yet any specific statutory authorisation for airstrikes on Syria?

No.

Has a national emergency been created by an attack from Syria upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces?

Nope.

But, you guys go ahead. We’ll see what happens.

BTW: Congrats on the record low poll numbers on foreign policy and Syria.

Resist We Much on September 9, 2013 at 4:54 PM

mnjg on September 9, 2013 at 4:46 PM,
Look, I know its all about Obama for you, but seriously you can’t believe what you type? Can you?

rob verdi on September 9, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Putin throws Obama a bone. workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 4:50 PM

More like a flaming fudge bag on his porch.

Akzed on September 9, 2013 at 4:54 PM

It is very simple:

US threatens a strike against Assad to deter and degrade his chemical weapons…

Assad gives up and agrees to hand his chemical weapons to the UN for destruction…

US Wins…

mnjg on September 9, 2013 at 4:46 PM

New Meme: Gaffeplomacy Is A Victory For America Or Something

Thanks for the assist!

Resist We Much on September 9, 2013 at 4:55 PM

It testifies to the incompetence of this admin that a massive win for Putin might be the best case scenario for America.

rob verdi on September 9, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Nobel Peace Prize for Putin?

slickwillie2001 on September 9, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Why do I have a feeling that Assad turning over his CW’s will turn out like Obama’s cash for clunkers program.

HumpBot Salvation on September 9, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Don’t worry Comrade…Putin has the storage locker for them in Russia…have another vodka comerade…

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Will someone throw a net over this bunch?

katy the mean old lady on September 9, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Hey, guys, don’t worry! Bashar al-Assad is:

Assad is the most cowardly person on the planet…

mnjg on September 9, 2013 at 4:11 PM

Yeah, ‘cuz, like, um, ya know, he changed his mind and went to Congress for something that he claimed to have an absolute right to do.

If Assad were the ‘most cowardly person on the planet,’ he never would have allegedly crossed Obama’s red line in the first place, genius.

And, don’t even think that Assad might d*ck around with weapons inspectors like Saddam Hussein and North Korea had/have for years!

mnjg has assured us that this is an absolute victory for the United States and a total loss for Assad.

Resist We Much on September 9, 2013 at 4:58 PM

More like a flaming fudge bag on his porch.

Akzed on September 9, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Well…#Occupy Resolute Desk stepped on his own wee wee when he stumbled into Putin’s trap.

Putin’s gonna crow…and this is surprising?

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 4:58 PM

did barry get the memo in time to call for international control of the CWs during his 6 interviews today? i hope they all took place in the morning so it doesn’t even get brought up and his administration looks even more disjointed.

dbilly76 on September 9, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Russia has to support the international community’s efforts sincerely, or be held to account.”

she’s working this to her benefit. russia will NOT do anything to see that a deal is enforced. and as weak and ineffectual as 0bama/kerry have been w/ syria they will be many times worse in trying to get russia to do anything. while campaigning for president she’ll talk about how she would be much tougher, etc. giving her the revenge she’s been waiting for.

chasdal on September 9, 2013 at 4:59 PM

And if Assad won’t cooperate, the backup plan is to have Al-Nusra Front surrender the stockpiles after they seize control.

Are they really this stupid, or do they just think we are?

Xavier on September 9, 2013 at 5:00 PM

John Sexton @verumserum

Obama created the red line.

Kerry created the red eraser.
3:45 PM – 9 Sep 2013

Nice!

fourdeucer on September 9, 2013 at 5:01 PM

Is she the woman that’s married to the guy who used to date Monica Lewinsky?

Galtian on September 9, 2013 at 5:02 PM

Resist We Much on September 9, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Goin’ to the UN is old skool, this bunch is new skool, they all new skool over on the left now.

Bishop on September 9, 2013 at 5:03 PM

It testifies to the incompetence of this admin that a massive win for Putin might be the best case scenario for America.

rob verdi on September 9, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Putin pwned Ogabe. Ogabe’s been jumping up and down, all threats and bluster, and Assad tells him where to stick it. Putin tells Assad to be a good boy, and Assad immediately nods and says, “Yes, Daddy.”

I’d be laughing except America’s stature is sinking along with Ogabe’s.

catsandbooks on September 9, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Syrian doctor called me, furious. Desperate. Says if US doesn’t do strike, all rebels will grow hopeless, become al Qaeda.

They are already.

dogsoldier on September 9, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Is she the woman that’s married to the guy who used to date Monica Lewinsky?

Galtian on September 9, 2013 at 5:02 PM

Define “married”.

BobMbx on September 9, 2013 at 5:03 PM

So Russia says that they’ll fix the problem by seeing to it that Syria’s chemical weapons are kept/destroyed under watchful eyes.
And the Obama admin says, “Say, that’s a good idea. Why didn’t we think of that rather than an unbelievably small yet unbelievably disastrous attack?”
Incredible.

justltl on September 9, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Simple principles of war.

Something every newly-minted butter bar understands, on paper at least.

Let’s us see how many Team Obama violated this week…or just today.

Objective…What is the mission, or goal? Yep. Team Obama has made that clear enough. They have none, and had none, or had any that survived the hour.

Offensive…Seize, retain, and exploit the initiative. Well, the initiative left long ago. I think they have a different concept of offensive. They are.

Surprise…Strike the enemy at a time, at a place, or in a manner for which he is unprepared. Well, nothing like giving the bad guy not only his two weeks notice but also telling him exactly where you are going to hit him.

Unity of command…Ensure unity of effort under one responsible commander. Can’t even get Barry, or Kerry, or Hillary, or Samantha, or Valerie, or Susan to even hold the same sheet of music, let alone read it.

I’ve missed a few, obviously…but…just a few short hours ago, this nation was all set at the trigger getting ready to jump into one jolly, glorious, wonderful, world uniting, war to show the world that Obama matters…and will not be mocked.

And as for using your military commanders to the best advantage…Team Obama is not. Thank goodness.

War plans and such should come from the military side. The civilian side gives them an objective…then the pros step in and make it happen. What was it, 57 or more versions of what Obama wanted to do coming from the White House to the Pentagon in just a week or so?

Three more years of this.

It ain’t over yet.

coldwarrior on September 9, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Galtian on September 9, 2013 at 5:02 PM

heh……

and what is it the say about blind squirrels and nuts……

halp us jon cary, don’t git us stuked in seeria.

RealMc on September 9, 2013 at 5:05 PM

All, I think it is way past time to ignore the obvious troll baiting by a certain poster in the Syria threads. I will no longer quote or respond to it as it has become tiresome with it’s obama love fest.

Johnnyreb on September 9, 2013 at 5:07 PM

US threatens a strike against Assad to deter and degrade his chemical weapons…

Assad gives up and agrees to hand his chemical weapons to the UN for destruction…

US Wins…

mnjg on September 9, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Yeah, except that two hours ago, Hillary, Obama, Reid, and the rest of the Stooges were screaming that Assad was Hitler incarnate and would never keep any such agreements or surrender his weapons.

So were they lying then or are they lying now?

northdallasthirty on September 9, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Yeah, like it’s worked with Iran’s nuclear program.

WINNING!!!

John the Libertarian on September 9, 2013 at 5:08 PM

She agrees with Putin, who now leads the world, and with the UN/Great Britain.

Hillary, the scumhag, has blood all over her big body. She is as culpable in the ME/Arab Spring/foreign policy debacles as is obama. He let her do her thing and now they both own it all. The buck stops with both of them, as she said on Benghazi, and as he said too.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 5:08 PM

Wow, who took the WMD to her face?

crrr6 on September 9, 2013 at 5:08 PM

Senator Blunt is a ‘No.’

Resist We Much on September 9, 2013 at 5:08 PM

dbilly76 on September 9, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Speaking of which, when are all of those interviews supposed to air ?
Knowing this bunch, prolly all at the same time .. snort.
OY.

pambi on September 9, 2013 at 5:08 PM

northdallasthirty on September 9, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Never assume that an obama-shit-consumer is sane.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 5:09 PM

By time she starts her campaign – she will look like Chelsea John Kerry.

Oh no – wait …………..

jake-the-goose on September 9, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Botox works in strange ways.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Is the Senate really going to hold the first vote for this disaster on Wednesday 9 /11?

sandee on September 9, 2013 at 5:10 PM

It is very simple:

US threatens a strike against Assad to deter and degrade his chemical weapons…

Assad gives up and agrees to hand his chemical weapons to the UN for destruction…

US Wins… I’m an obama-shit-consuming-idiot

mnjg on September 9, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Gratis

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 5:11 PM

I sure am thankful Obama wasn’t President and Kerry wasn’t Secretary of State in the weeks leading up to D-Day. They would have spilled the beans on the Normandy invasion and given interviews on landing beaches, number of transports and location of drop zones for airborne troops.

Obumble & Neville.

fogw on September 9, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Hey, what will they vote for/against in the senate on 9/11?

Were it not all so tragic it w/b down right comically funny.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Looks like Obama may get out of this yet…. Pitiful…

sandee on September 9, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Oh no…..Putin is just letting the fish run out a bit. The longer you let the fish swim, the more exhausted it will be when you lift it into the boat. It won’t flop around so much, making hook removal and plopping it into the catch tank easier.

Obama = “Fish On!”

This opens up months and months of Putin playing with Obama and Kerry. He enjoys it, and cares not about the outcome.

Here’s a bet: Before Obama leaves office, Putin summons him to Moscow….and he goes.

BobMbx on September 9, 2013 at 5:16 PM

It ain’t over yet.

coldwarrior on September 9, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Judgement Justice Dependability Integrity Decisiveness Tact Initiative Endurance Bearing Unselfishness Courage Knowledge Loyalty Enthusiasm

fourdeucer on September 9, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Hillary looks like the witch from Hell.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 5:17 PM

She agrees with Putin, who now leads the world, and with the UN/Great Britain.

Hillary, the scumhag, has blood all over her big body. She is as culpable in the ME/Arab Spring/foreign policy debacles as is obama. He let her do her thing and now they both own it all. The buck stops with both of them, as she said on Benghazi, and as he said too.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 5:08 PM

UK is just another island nobody listens to.

Putin and his pal Xi Jingpin own the UN…Merkel is playing along.

Europe will decide we had a “crazy king moment” (something they are all to familiar with) if we lameduck our village idiot and keep him confined to minor domestic destruction and elect sane people in congress and as POTUS in the next two elections.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 5:17 PM

The world knows how this all unfolded. obambi is more diminished than a squished gnat.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Is the Senate really going to hold the first vote for this disaster on Wednesday 9 /11?

sandee on September 9, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Stunningly nuts.

dogsoldier on September 9, 2013 at 5:18 PM

……… this …….. just ……… in ………. Obama’s ……. entire ………… speech ………. leaked …….. to ……… the ………… media …..
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…….. speech …….. follows …………
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“I have a super awesome plan that cannot fail.”

fogw on September 9, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Hillary looks like the witch from Hell.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 5:17 PM

I still think she had a stroke last year. She sure looks bad. If she went in for some “work” on her face like some people on here speculated she has legal grounds to sue the Doctor who did it.

Johnnyreb on September 9, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Putin and Assad, ass ad, as Kerry calls him, emerge as the two sane characters in this drama…incredibly.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 5:21 PM

She reads real good.

ctmom on September 9, 2013 at 5:23 PM

What difference, at this point, does it make…?

Seven Percent Solution on September 9, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Look at the arrogance and ignorance of Lurch. Assad said this in his interview with Charlie Rose:

‘You should expect everything. Not necessarily from the government.’

So, how does Lurch respond?

‘That kind of threat is nothing different from the threat we face every single day…This is a man without credibility.’

He haughtily dismissed any possibility of retaliation almost as if it would be UNHEARD OF for a country that has just been bombed to retaliate.

I guess this goes back to his whole ‘This is not war!’ You see, only the United States gets to decide what the definition of war is. If we drop bombs on other countries, it’s not war even if those being bombed think otherwise. If we only send Tomahawk missiles and not ‘boots on the ground,’ that’s not war. If we only send ships full of guys in the Navy to a ‘kinetic military action’ theatre, they aren’t ‘troops’ and that’s not war.

He’s not alone…

‘How dare he threaten the United States! Who in the world does he think he is???’

- Super genius, Bob Beckel

Resist We Much on September 9, 2013 at 5:23 PM

It’ll be fun, if the White House ends up backing the Kerry gaffe/plan, to watch party hacks like Reid instantly shift from “you can’t contain to a neo-Hitler like Assad!”

The left must be exhausted with all the mental gymnastics they have been going through the last few weeks. In trying to justify this war but not that war, this president not that one, this regime fighting “rebels” and that one at war with freedom fighters……. Well, they’re pretty much incoherent now.

Dana Perino just said that the rat-eared one has to essentially undo all the conflicting stuff that Kerry and Clinton etc have put out today.

Happy Nomad on September 9, 2013 at 5:24 PM

……… this …….. just ……… in ………. Obama’s ……. entire ………… speech ………. leaked …….. to ……… the ………… media …..
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…….. speech …….. follows …………
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“I have a super awesome plan that cannot fail.”

Delivered by Putin

fogw on September 9, 2013 at 5:18 PM

fify

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Putin and Assad, ass ad, as Kerry calls him, emerge as the two sane characters in this drama…incredibly.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 5:21 PM

The most amazing thing really. Our guys make the Marx brothers look like Einsteins.

dogsoldier on September 9, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Two questions.

1) So, Putin comes off looking like a statesman and international savior in all of this?

2) Did he have his shirt off when he did it?

trigon on September 9, 2013 at 5:26 PM

She reads real good.

ctmom on September 9, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Seriously? Because that schoolmarm lecturing combined with a hint of her being pissed off about having to deal with other people. It’s a real turn off for me.

Happy Nomad on September 9, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Resist We Much on September 9, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Simply amazing, isn’t it? Our entire crew needs a psych eval.

dogsoldier on September 9, 2013 at 5:27 PM

With Obama headed for catastrophe in Congress on Syria, why would Putin and Assad offer to bail him out by backing the big “international WMD confiscation” charade? The answer, I think, is that there’s risk for them too in a U.S. attack.

My own impression is that in repeated incidents, Putin is acting like a world statesman whereas Obama is acting like a petty, bullying tyrant. Another example of many is the way Putin has given sanctuary to Snowden. Although this has been spun by some as an act of pure evil, that’s not the way I view it, and there are probably others who feel as I do.

The situation here is that Obama was close to unilaterally committing acts of war against Syria not only without U.N. approval but against almost universal howls of protest from every nation in the world. It looks to me like Putin came in and diplomatically saved the day. The effect, no matter what the ultimate motivation, is one of generosity and statesmanship.

Meanwhile, Obama can’t apparently act like a statesman or world leader, but he remembers his training as community activist and attempts to get gays in Russia all angry and protesting. Fail.

How important is this kind of PR for Russia? What does Russia gain from this in terms of respect and sympathy from the world community? A lot, I think. Perception counts.

Burke on September 9, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Russia has to support the international community’s efforts sincerely, or be held to account.”

Really Hillary! And just how would you hold the Russians “accountable”?

Why not try pushing that little red “reset” button of yours?

Better yet, go to Syria. Only this time the ‘sniper fire’ may be real.

As for Assad, yeah, let’s see how long he can string out those “negotiations” for his chemical weapons. The NK’s and Iranians have been stringing the west along for YEARS.

GarandFan on September 9, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Did Waffles bumble his way into a “solution” to the crisis?

Not even close. Kerry brought up that proposal only to mock it, and dismiss it out of hand. The State department subsequently issued a statement reinforcing that dismissal.

I think Putin put that proposal on the table at the G20 summit, and Obama turned him down, probably thinking it some sort of ploy, or attempt to stall. It is clear that the Americans were completely surprised by the joint Russians/Syrian announcement. Putin probably had an agreement with the Syrians before he spoke to Obama, but did not tell him. Once Obama turned him down, he waited until the perfect moment to spring the plan and humiliate the Americans, especially Kerry.

Now the Obama administration is scrambling to take credit – it was Kerry’s idea and Obama’s brave show of force pushed Assad to the bargaining table. Bullsh#t. Had the Obama administration had a grand strategy, the Brits and the UN would have signed on, and Obama would not have had to crawl to Congress. Also, Obama would not be facing a humiliating defeat in the Congress on his force authorization; everyone would have been briefed, and gotten into line, quickly. Also, the threat of force was so tame (“unbelievably small”), with the administration all but announcing where, when, and how they would strike, that there is no way it pushed Assad to bargain.

Putin pushed Assad, because he is calling the shots. The Syrians are afraid of him, not of Obama. Putin is propping up Assad’s regime; without him, they are done. Besides, the Syrians aren’t really giving up anything. They can’t use the weapons now anyway, with the whole world watching; they can win the war with conventional weapons supplied by Mother Russia. Putin in turn emerges as a major player in the region, as a feckless, confused, and exhausted United States gives up its last shred of influence and credibility.

Mr. Arkadin on September 9, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Happy Nomad on September 9, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Of course I’m not serious! Are you kidding? It’s like she is reading to an English as a second language class! She assumes if she talks real slow-like we simpletons maybe might understand what she is saying.

ctmom on September 9, 2013 at 5:30 PM

With Obama headed for catastrophe in Congress on Syria, why would Putin and Assad offer to bail him out by backing the big “international WMD confiscation” charade?

The RNC is missing a really good ad opportunity. The screen starts out black with White House, 3am letting us know where it is. You suddenly hear a smartphone buzzing, light comes on and Obama look-alike takes the call. It’s a selfie of Assad and Putin holding the reset button.

Happy Nomad on September 9, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Of course I’m not serious! Are you kidding? It’s like she is reading to an English as a second language class! She assumes if she talks real slow-like we simpletons maybe might understand what she is saying.

ctmom on September 9, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Good cause I’ve never understood any of the Hillary worship.

Happy Nomad on September 9, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Hillary trying to be relevant as what, a former this and a former that? She’s just a liar and an opportunist to me. She can’t even vote on anything anyway, can she?

scalleywag on September 9, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Lets not forget that this Russian deal doesn’t require Assad to admit to using the chemical weapons, just puts them under guard so they won’t be used in the future.

What it does do is give cover to Assad should CWs be used in the future. Additionally, the jury has not determined which side actually used the gas yet. My guess is its the rebels.

Why? Putin. Putin. Putin. Simply, he supports Assad, hates the rebels and wants to continue to embarrass Obama (who obliges at every turn). Having the world watching over Assads WMDs while another attack occurs puts Assad and Putin in the position of saying “We told you so. Obama chose poorly when he sided with the rebels.”

Putin’s strategy is brilliant.

And for you grognards out there, Putin has the tactical and strategic advantage, and the initiative. Obama is having trouble finding his web-gear.

BobMbx on September 9, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Syrian doctor called me, furious. Desperate. Says if US doesn’t do strike, all rebels will grow hopeless, become al Qaeda.

become al Qaeda”? Seriously?

Good cause I’ve never understood any of the Hillary worship.

Happy Nomad on September 9, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Me neither. WTH has she done for anyone besides herself?

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 9, 2013 at 5:46 PM

With Obama headed for catastrophe in Congress on Syria, why would Putin and Assad offer to bail him out by backing the big “international WMD confiscation” charade? The answer, I think, is that there’s risk for them too in a U.S. attack. Even if the first round is “unbelievably small,” there’s no guarantee that there wouldn’t be a second round and that that would be bigger. When you’re winning on the battlefield, as Assad is, you do what you can to keep the west’s hyperpower away.

Well, yeah, so why use the weapons in the first place, and risk drawing the U.S. in? Unless the whole thing was part of a larger plan to humiliate the United States and project Russian power into the Middle East. What is Syria giving up, really? That chemical weapons attack was hardly a game changer in the conflict – Assad was winning without it. He’ll have an easier time wiping out the opposition with conventional weapons without that albatross around his neck, and the U.S. won’t be able to do anything about it.

Putin and Syria did not save Obama’s ass; that’s a byproduct, a small price to pay for making Obama (and Kerry) look like rank amateurs next to world statesman Vladimir Putin. No matter how the Obama administration and MSNBC spins this, the world knows who’s in charge here, and who owes whom.

Mr. Arkadin on September 9, 2013 at 5:49 PM

That picture looks like Hillary has been getting into Bill’s hooch.

besser tot als rot on September 9, 2013 at 5:52 PM

Has this Syria debacle happened because of a VIDEO …. Killary?

exodus2011 on September 9, 2013 at 5:57 PM

It’s laughable hearing anyone say we’re going to hold Assad or Putin accountable. This administration doesn’t exactly hold the record for holding people accountable, there have been numerous incidents in which no one suffered any consequences whatsoever for their actions, going all the way back to F&F and up to the Benghazi attacks.

scalleywag on September 9, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Hillary HERSELF hasn’t been held accountable for her incompetence and lies but by golly she’s all for holding others accountable. Give me a break.

scalleywag on September 9, 2013 at 6:02 PM

Hillary is here in Philly to accept the Liberty medal tomorrow.

How many people did Hilary ‘freed’?

Sir Napsalot on September 9, 2013 at 6:05 PM

One more lift and she’ll have a goatee.
HumpBot Salvation on September 9, 2013 at 4:52 PM

ROFLOL

Oboobi is played like a one stringed fiddle by putin while sKerry does his world famous herky-jerky.
There’s no way the WH can claim this exit as their own. Putin already called sKerry out as a liar a few days ago and is sure to remind the press on Wednesday just who is the statesman and who are flailing.

This is a win-win for Assad and lose-lose for Oboobi in the eyes of everyone around the world that’s paying attention. for the LIV, the reality is lost on them and however they believe, irrelevant.

That goes double for mnjg who’s already pretzeled his talking points for 3 days running. I sure hope bmore indexed the highlights of this contortions.

AH_C on September 9, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Sir Napsalot on September 9, 2013 at 6:05 PM

I don’t know about “freed” but I can name four she killed.

Happy Nomad on September 9, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Happy Nomad on September 9, 2013 at 5:34 PM

I’m fighting with libs on another blog over this. Not one can tell me what Hilary has done for the advancement of women in her term as SOS, much less anything else. Apparently my real problem is I just hate Obama. O_o

ctmom on September 9, 2013 at 6:11 PM

It is very simple:

US threatens a strike against Assad to deter and degrade his chemical weapons…

Assad gives up and agrees to hand his chemical weapons to the UN for destruction…

US Wins…

mnjg on September 9, 2013 at 4:46 PM

It’s very simple – quit giving Obama rhetorical blowjobs, m’kay? For some reason you leave out everything in the middle – you know, the part that actually led *to* Assad saying they’d THINK about accepting RUSSIA’s plan, etc.

Causality in US threats and Assad’s offer to consider… virtually and effectively none.

Causality in Russia’s suggestion that Syria do this and that, and Assad’s offer to consider… virtually and effectively ALL.

If Obama’s threats had been the catalyst, you moron, Assad wouldn’t have waited until TODAY, after Kerry backed out of his comment, after State said ‘whoops, wait a minute, he didn’t mean it’, after Russia suggested it as an actual plan, etc; he’d have done it when Obama was threatening, before he dithered and said he’d go to Congress, before Congress and the public made to abundantly clear they weren’t going to authorize attacks, etc.

You are *sub*-moronic. Are you getting paid per imbecilic post? Just curious.

Midas on September 9, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Putin and Assad just saved Obie’s bacon.

What did this cost us?

marybel on September 9, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Bmore, you’re missed.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 6:16 PM

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