Gaffe-tastic: Hillary pretty excited about Kerry’s accidental proposal for international control of Syria’s WMD arsenal

posted at 4:41 pm on September 9, 2013 by Allahpundit

David Cameron sounds pretty excited about it too. Did Waffles bumble his way into a “solution” to the crisis? Here’s the presumptive Democratic nominee creating a little rhetorical space for her party to declare victory and walk away:

“If the regime immediately surrendered its stockpiles to international control, as was suggested by Secretary [John] Kerry and the Russians, that would be an important step,” Clinton said. “But this cannot be another excuse for delay or obstruction. Russia has to support the international community’s efforts sincerely, or be held to account.”

Clinton also defended Obama’s push for strikes as instrumental in making such a political settlement possible.

“It is very important to note that this discussion that has taken hold today, about potential international control over Syria’s stockpiles, only could take place in the context of a credible military threat by the United States to keep pressure on the Syrian government as well as those supporting Syria, like Russia,” she said.

GOP Rep. Mike Rogers, chair of the House Intel Committee and devout hawk, made the same point earlier. Apparently, if not for Obama’s heroic half-hearted saber-rattling, Assad would be free to flaunt his chemical weapons openly instead of pretending to turn them over while continuing to slaughter Sunnis en masse. There’s your Hillary 2016 foreign-policy bumper sticker.

This isn’t the only help she’s given to the White House on the big Syria push either; she called Schumer and Mark Pryor this past weekend to try to sell them on voting yes. Pryor, as far as I know, is still a firm no today on attacking. Meanwhile, in Syria:

Ace asks: With Obama headed for catastrophe in Congress on Syria, why would Putin and Assad offer to bail him out by backing the big “international WMD confiscation” charade? The answer, I think, is that there’s risk for them too in a U.S. attack. Even if the first round is “unbelievably small,” there’s no guarantee that there wouldn’t be a second round and that that would be bigger. When you’re winning on the battlefield, as Assad is, you do what you can to keep the west’s hyperpower away. To turn the question around, what’s to be gained at this point by brinksmanship with O over the boutique issue of chemical weapons? Assad’s already defied him on the red line; Obama’s already been humiliated by the spectacle of Congress and the public turning against his Syria adventure. No one in the west, the White House included, seems willing to do anything to stop Assad from killing tens of thousands more people so long as he uses conventional weapons. The interested players on Assad’s side don’t want to defeat the U.S. in Syria, they simply want the U.S. to keep its distance while they advance their interests. If that means helping O save face (while quietly boasting that he needed his nemesis, Vladimir Putin, to bail him out), that’s fine. In fact, there’s a bonus for them in all this in reinforcing the “international norm” that weapons inspections, not military strikes, are the way to go to prevent bad actors from acting out. That’ll come in handy for Iran later when Israel announces that the moment of truth for their enrichment facilities has come.

Two clips for you here, one of Hillary endorsing Kerry’s idea (with qualifications) and the other of Harry Reid going full Godwin to try to move fencesitters in Congress. It’ll be fun, if the White House ends up backing the Kerry gaffe/plan, to watch party hacks like Reid instantly shift from “you can’t contain to a neo-Hitler like Assad!” to “well, I guess you can.” Kerry did say this was another Munich situation, right? Exit quotation via John Sexton:



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Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Oboobi is played like a one stringed fiddle by putin while sKerry does his world famous herky-jerky.
There’s no way the WH can claim this exit as their own.

AH_C on September 9, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Yet they will, and their moronic sycophant no-info voters and the press will trumpet it as though it were true.

*shrug*

Midas on September 9, 2013 at 6:16 PM

IF you criticize Hillary…..YOU HATE ALL WOMEN!!

Beat the meme rush of 2016.

PappyD61 on September 9, 2013 at 6:16 PM

The Cheerios Doctrine

Resist We Much on September 9, 2013 at 6:17 PM

In case anyone was wondering, apparently these are the wonderful things Hilary has accomplished: (from another blog)

Hillary repaired many of our long time relationships with other countries that the Bush administration and the cowboy mentality harmed or destroyed. She worked hard on human rights focusing largely on women’s rights. She lobbied and brought medical services to many countries; one of her projects was to bring clean water systems to countries where women were spending their entire day fetching water and carrying it back to their villages. Hillary is a strong advocate for human rights and is an excellent ambassador for our country. Healthcare, education, human rights are very important to her. We are very fortunate to have a woman like her.

Oy. Is it really the SOS job to ensure women don’t have to carry water all day?

ctmom on September 9, 2013 at 6:22 PM

*Shrug* is right.

Half the “adults” in this nation couldn’t find the United States on a map which only showed North America, they sure as hell aren’t concerned about Syria. But hey, the Voice is going to rock tonight, they can’t wait to see the hot new acts.

Bishop on September 9, 2013 at 6:24 PM

It’s obvious that this is the ‘out’ that Obama and the democrats desperately wanted. They will grasp at any straw since they’re drowning in public derision and have been exposed as pathetically inept.

thatsafactjack on September 9, 2013 at 6:26 PM

Russia has to support the international community’s efforts sincerely, or be held to account.”

Or else what, Hillary?

onlineanalyst on September 9, 2013 at 6:29 PM

Putin suggests ‘international control’ over Syrian WMDs.

If Obama accepts he owes Putin for getting his nuts out of the fire.

Great job, Barry!

If Obama declines, he is a warmongering cowboy snubbing Putin.

Great job, Barry!

And for Putin… it is win-win.

Because who has ‘boots on the ground’ on hour one in Syria? Putin.

Who knows where the documents are showing any links between Syrian WMD and Russia? Putin does.

And which country comes off looking lame for having to have another country, its normal adversary, get it out of a jam? Why the US!

Win-win-win for Putin!

ajacksonian on September 9, 2013 at 6:31 PM

It is very simple:

US threatens a strike against Assad to deter and degrade his chemical weapons…

Assad gives up and agrees to hand his chemical weapons to the UN for destruction…

My Cult Leader Wins…

mnjg on September 9, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Edited for accuracy.

Del Dolemonte on September 9, 2013 at 6:31 PM

Edited for accuracy.

Del Dolemonte on September 9, 2013 at 6:31 PM

Assad hasn’t given in or agreed to anything. I keep saying that.

Moualem said Syria “welcomes the Russian initiative,” but did not say whether his country would agree to what Russia was asking.

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/09/09/syria-we-welcome-russias-proposal-to-turn-over-our-chemical-weapons-to-international-control-update-rand-paul-interested/

The troll is taking a victory lap on smoke and mirrors. This ply has taken Zero down at the knees. He can’t attack, but he effectively has nothing

Well there are strong echos of laughter…

dogsoldier on September 9, 2013 at 6:39 PM

ply should read “ploy.”

dogsoldier on September 9, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Hey, is Obama taking this deal or not?

blink on September 9, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Is Assad? I’m telling you, Zero has been pwnd.

dogsoldier on September 9, 2013 at 6:41 PM

Notice the lack of this thing known as a ‘cease-fire’ during all this?

And while some of the ‘rebels’ will be willing to get rid of their CWs, my bet is the AQ types won’t be.

Awwww… can’t go and do the work because of AQ!

I don’t see how this actually does anything for the civil war… save give Syria time to re-organize if it does happen. Bad news for the rebels.

Another Putin win!

ajacksonian on September 9, 2013 at 6:46 PM

o/t, but file it away for future use:


Leaked IPCC report: The planet is actually cooling…

Resist We Much on September 9, 2013 at 6:46 PM

Obama Foreign Policy is being scripted by…

The Onion.

petefrt on September 9, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Resist We Much on September 9, 2013 at 6:46 PM

After a decade of trying to ‘hide the decline’ they bow to the actual numbers.

ajacksonian on September 9, 2013 at 6:48 PM

This entire allegation of Assad using chemical weapons has made no sense to me from the beginning.

First, chemical weapons are NOT WMD’s, they are weapons of DENILE. They are used to deny an area, for a short period of time, from being used by the enemy. I just do not see how this directly helps EITHER side in a civil war! If the goal is to kill civilians, then artillary is a much easier solution. Artillary has been the biggest killer on the battlefield since it’s creation.

IF I were Assad, I would GLADLY trade any/all chemical weapons for whatever conventional hardware, or supplies, I could get!

Freddy on September 9, 2013 at 6:48 PM

What saith the great and powerful 0? When I stepped out a few hours ago Susan “Benghazi” Rice was saying that removal of Assad was the goal. Will Barack “My Muslim Faith” Obama come out in support of AQ tomorrow night on the telly?

txhsmom on September 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM

Resist We Much on September 9, 2013 at 6:46 PM

Tweet. Tweet.

petefrt on September 9, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Is Hillary still in government? I thought she was a private citizen now. We have enough idiots running their mouths without her’s.

ru2sel on September 9, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Two questions.

1) So, Putin comes off looking like a statesman and international savior in all of this?

2) Did he have his shirt off when he did it?

trigon on September 9, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Well…Putin tweeted Preezy Twerk his Big Russian Diplomatic Wanker and said Boo!…It’s a language the new skool understands.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 6:53 PM

“Retreat, declare victory, and pick up another Nobel Peace Prize on your way to the 19th Hole.” (Ace).

rplat on September 9, 2013 at 6:54 PM

Go to hell Clinton.

TX-96 on September 9, 2013 at 6:59 PM

Is Hillary still in government? I thought she was a private citizen now. We have enough idiots running their mouths without her’s.

ru2sel on September 9, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Xactly!!! I was wondering that too. Imagine the scandal if Sarah Palin would do a press conference on Syria..oh the horror..

American Dream 246 on September 9, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Phew, talk about getting played by Putin, this is rough. As if Obama weren’t an easy enough mark for him, now we have Secretary Lurch.

The hailarity when Obama, “leading from behind”, tries to take credit for the Russian proposal and pretends it has been in the talks all along.

Flimflam man.

petefrt on September 9, 2013 at 7:03 PM

“I think it would be a great step forward if Assad were willing to do it and if Russia were willing to monitor it or an international authority with Russia,” Paul, an outspoken opponent of U.S. military strikes in Syria, said in a phone interview with Breitbart News on Monday.

WTF IS PAUL SAYING….TRUST THE RUSSIANS???

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 7:10 PM

The funny thing is that a majority of Republicans would probably welcome the deal as a way to prevent Obama from doing something stupid.

blink on September 9, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Its great for Putin since he has assets in Syria to deal with the WMD problem… not the weapons but the documents…

And I bet that any ‘international’ solution will see the Chinese disembark before the US to ‘help’ the Russians… in the exact same way…

Still doesn’t stop the civil war.

And it doesn’t get rid of ‘rebel’ CWs, either.

But if you’re Putin and want to make Obama look bad while getting rid of your own fingerprints, I couldn’t suggest a better way to do it. And Assad will HELP HIM in that regard, as well.

ajacksonian on September 9, 2013 at 7:10 PM

WTF IS PAUL SAYING….TRUST THE RUSSIANS???

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 7:10 PM

Who do you propose–the UN?

txhsmom on September 9, 2013 at 7:16 PM

What’s wrong? You were all excited about this deal several hours ago. Do you still support the deal? Is Obama going to do it or not?

blink on September 9, 2013 at 7:13 PM

Putin already has boots on the ground in Syria.

If you like the deal, then you ALREADY trust Putin.

What difference does it make after that?

ajacksonian on September 9, 2013 at 7:17 PM

Obama/Kerry play checkers. Putin plays chess. Maybe 3D chess. Obama is putty in his hands.

TIME Mag: We are all Russians now.

petefrt on September 9, 2013 at 7:18 PM

“I think it would be a great step forward if Assad were willing to do it and if Russia were willing to monitor it or an international authority with Russia,” Paul, an outspoken opponent of U.S. military strikes in Syria, said in a phone interview with Breitbart News on Monday.

WTF IS PAUL SAYING….TRUST THE RUSSIANS???

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 7:10 PM

You’ve been in over your head all day.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 7:18 PM

WTF IS PAUL SAYING….TRUST THE RUSSIANS???
Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 7:10 PM

you poor reprobate fool. perfect Obama supporter.

Murphy9 on September 9, 2013 at 7:50 PM

Just a note:

How interesting that the progressives have, for decades, through their mouthpiece, the media and the arts, pushed the idea that youth and sex are the most important factors in life. This campaign of progressive messaging, though film, television, magazines and newspapers, comic books, and even the music industry, has resulted in a society, particularly the progressive base, which values youth and sexuality above all other values. The effects are readily apparent, from the parade of aging men and women willing to endure surgical procedures in the hope of maintaining a youthful appearance for as long as possible, often resulting in disfigurement over time to varying degrees, to performances by 20 year old women like Miley Cyrus’ making a spectacle of herself for media attention, trying desperately to declare herself a sexual being.

Now, the Democrats are going to try to run H.R.Clinton for the office of president of the United States.

Are they mad? H.R. Clinton will be 69 years old before the election of 2016. The Democrats haven’t elected a president who was over 60 years of age in decades. H.R. Clinton falls far short of the values that the Democrat base has come to expect.

thatsafactjack on September 9, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Establish a joint storage and security commission for the security of all chemical weapons to be stored out side of the country of conflict administered jointly by The US, Russia, Great Briton and France. Ownership to be returned after the conflict at the direction of the United Nations.

jpcpt03 on August 30, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Ok every one just remember you read it first on hot air.
Now we all know who is reading hot air.

jpcpt03 on September 9, 2013 at 7:57 PM

IF you criticize Hillary…..YOU HATE ALL WOMEN!!
Beat the meme rush of 2016.

PappyD61 on September 9, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Awesome post. PappyD61 should be her campaign manager. The dude rocks. Who needs Carville/Stephanopoulos?

I bet Crithy Matthews has both legs tingling just reading this. (Maddow probably has something else tingling. But, then, she’s Hillary’s kind of girl.)

NoPain on September 9, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Hillary just wanted to keep relevant and sound good for her upcoming campaign that actually never stops. She’s just another empty suit like Obama. Let’s hope she does’t make it in 2016.

JimGeb on September 9, 2013 at 8:25 PM

In a nutshell…Vlad has just bitch-slapped the Won…hahahaha!
BHO has no clue, never has…on the world stage! Eat ur peas bitch!

OldWeaselKeeper on September 9, 2013 at 8:29 PM

This entire allegation of Assad using chemical weapons has made no sense to me from the beginning.

First, chemical weapons are NOT WMD’s, they are weapons of DENILE. They are used to deny an area, for a short period of time, from being used by the enemy. I just do not see how this directly helps EITHER side in a civil war! If the goal is to kill civilians, then artillary is a much easier solution. Artillary has been the biggest killer on the battlefield since it’s creation.

IF I were Assad, I would GLADLY trade any/all chemical weapons for whatever conventional hardware, or supplies, I could get!

Freddy on September 9, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Except chemical weapons do not destroy infrastructure like artillery does.

Midas on September 9, 2013 at 8:36 PM

Hillary just wanted to keep relevant and sound good for her upcoming campaign that actually never stops. She’s just another empty suit like Obama. Let’s hope she does’t make it in 2016.

JimGeb on September 9, 2013 at 8:25 PM

She won’t. Bill is busy tryin to skool his idiot (I wish my grandparents aborted my mother) daughter for the next round…family legacy sort of thingy.

Eventually Bill will quit as both his womynz are hopeless idiots and he’ll write another revisionist excuse of a book…

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM

It was seriously strange that, after an entire weekend of silence, three trolls simultaneously came out declaring that Obama had won because of the deal being offered by Putin/Assad.

blink on September 9, 2013 at 7:03 PM

It’s not really that strange; they finally have at least a flimsy thread of a hope of a chance of spinning this to his favor – before this, no such thing existed.

They’re simply disgusting sycophants, and I hope they spontaneously combust, which would instantly increase the world’s average IQ by a few points.

Midas on September 9, 2013 at 8:39 PM

CNN is framing it to make it look like it was Hillary’s idea in the first place–they just can’t help themselves to keep themselves from campaigning for her.

stukinIL4now on September 9, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Charlie Rose has the interview with Assad on PBS at 9PM ET

bluefox on September 9, 2013 at 8:56 PM

At this point these fools should never look a gift horse in the mouth.

Bmore on September 9, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Krauthammer believes that Russia is playing chess with a set of rank amateurs and saw a huge opening for themselves after Kerry’s comments this morning. For Russia, Krauthammer says, it means they get to keep Assad in power and maintain their Iran/Hezzbollah/Assad/Russian axis of power as well as prevent Jihadists in the Muslim countries like Chechnya from getting their hands on the chemical weapons. He calls it a win-win for Russia and says that Obama will accept this because it’s the only way he saves face.

That’s probably the consensus opinion not only here, but in a lot of places in D.C. tonight.

INC on September 9, 2013 at 9:17 PM

happy to hear that Richard Engel is suddenly Pro-War.

If the left/media/Ds had been less interested in Chimpybushhitler and Halliburton Dick, less interested in destroying a President who was ‘selected not elected’, if they were less hyper-partisan hacks and more geo-strategists maybe I would take them seriously

but they are just hacks, and never trust a hack

r keller on September 9, 2013 at 9:17 PM

If the regime immediately surrendered its stockpiles to international control, as was suggested by Secretary [John] Kerry…

lol…what?

Ronnie on September 9, 2013 at 9:39 PM

What’s wrong? You were all excited about this deal several hours ago. Do you still support the deal? Is Obama going to do it or not?

blink on September 9, 2013 at 7:13 PM

If it is feasible, and transparently, you danm skippy…we save a tone of money and we should let the press frame it as the US’s tough talk that pushed Syria. At least we don’t lose faith because of Obama’s incompetence. He’s president for the next 3 yrs….

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 9:43 PM

BOHICA

crosshugger on September 9, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Was allthis accidental.-probably. still better if it avoids an actual attack.

there is a crisis in the mideast every other week. if they are not attacking or denouncing israel they are attacking each other.

they fight over insults from ancestors 500 years ago. Sheesh.

gerrym51 on September 9, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Putin for the win…

There is no ‘operational pause’ in the Syrian civil war while the international punditry considers the proposals which have yet to be formally made, offered, or agreed to. Assad has no leashes on him and while the U.N. dithers about inspection protocols, whatever evidence exists against him quietly makes its way to…wherever. Syria is not a signatory to the OPCW, so there’s very little in the way of punishment available to the U.N., were it so inclined. Meanwhile, our military stays amped up for…how long? And prepped to accomplish what, exactly?

Putin just bought Assad months to consolidate gains and continue wiping out the jihadis, pulled Obomba’s @zz out of the the fire, diverted our military forces, all in return for what is certain to amount to a toothless agreement. Lest we forget, Ghadafi was a signatory to the OPCW and complied with all that entailed…except for the part where he didn’t declare tens of thousands of tons of mustard gas stocks, which were found after he was shot in the streets. OPCW sounds nice, but they don’t get a free pass to just roam about the countryside looking for chemical weapons. And with the Russian involvement, you can bet that this would eventually amount to a ‘special’ inspection regime, with lots of procedural requirements, negotiations over minor technicalities, and very minor penalties at the end of the day.

Oh, and he exposed Obama and his entire team for the sophomoric incompetents they are, who do not enjoy the confidence of Congress or the majority of the U.S…..which will not and should not be easily forgotten. Of course, they did most of the work themselves…

Putin continues to play 3D chess while these morons are pushing Cheerios around on their trays.

Right on September 9, 2013 at 10:28 PM

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on September 9, 2013 at 9:43 PM

Your head is in the middle of the largest pile of scat in the Northern Hemisphere.

Murphy9 on September 9, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Russia has to support the international community’s efforts sincerely, or be held to account.”

…It’s amazing to me, the arrogance and complete idiocy of the current administration.

Hey, Left-eye…We couldn’t make SYRIA do jack, and the Russians manhandled the situation. What would POSSIBLY cause you to think that Putin gives a Blue F*ck what Barry would do to “Hold Him to account.”?

…just when you think the threats can’t get any more empty.

a5minmajor on September 9, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Imagine the history books kids will read in 30 years, about how statesman Obama went to congress for approval and managed to find a peaceful resolution with the help of the UN while the political cauldron boiled around him. If only Bush had exhibited that kind of leadership.

MT on September 9, 2013 at 11:18 PM

OK, where is the Putin/Obama remix of Blurred Lines.

Do it like it hurt
Like it hurt
What you don’t like work?

Kenosha Kid on September 9, 2013 at 11:28 PM

Hillary finally gets a haircut and manages to botch that up… she’s a mess.

dpduq on September 9, 2013 at 11:58 PM

Not too fast there with the Barry The Bumbler Rescue Raft.

There were two parts to SOS Kerry’s statement, n’est pas?

He said Assad could turn over his chemical weapons in a week AND that Assad wasn’t about to do that.

Why is everyone jumping up and down at the WH and 10 Downing Street, as if the game is over. It’s barely half-time.

Do you think Putin has another move to make? Do you think he’s really interested in giving Bumbly an escape hatch from his own implosion?

What’s Assad got to lose by saying “Interesting idea there Vald, interesting idea worth talking to death for a long time — diplomacy she is wonderful!”

I would say “stay tuned.” The gang in the WH hasn’t seen a game yet that they can’t manage to lose.

IndieDogg on September 10, 2013 at 1:45 AM

Gaffe-tastic: Hillary pretty excited about Kerry’s accidental proposal for international control of Syria’s WMD arsenal

More evidence that Hillary Clinton isn’t or, perhaps, can’t pay attention too well; she’s coasting, she’s presuming, she’s sticking in the media for vanity’s sake, she’s HILLLLERRREEEE.

If you think Obama’s been a disaster in the Presidency, Hillary in there would be multiple times over worse.

Lourdes on September 10, 2013 at 2:46 AM

Hillary finally gets a haircut and manages to botch that up… she’s a mess.

dpduq on September 9, 2013 at 11:58 PM

I’m wondering if her “quick departure” if not disappearance from State, and media recently until this, is due to her having more “brain surgery” so-called. Seriously. Something’s not at all well put together in her functional appearance.

Lourdes on September 10, 2013 at 2:48 AM

At this point in time …………

duncantwn on September 10, 2013 at 6:25 AM

isn’t. she. interesting. to. listen. to. i. could. listen. to. her. monotone.all. day.

stenwin77 on September 10, 2013 at 6:33 AM

I don’t think this was a stumble. Obama is desperate for a way out of this mess, and the whole world knows it. He meets with Putin last week and makes a deal with him just to save face. Obama will not get congresional approval and Assad knows it. A reporter just happens to ask Kerry if there is a way for Syria to avoid military action. Kerry’s response seems off the cuff and not serious while still talking tough. Putin pounces on it and Assad quickly agrees while everyone knows he’s really not giving up his weapons. Obama is now in a position where he can now save face, looking strong and a peacemaker at the same time. This was all a big set up.

steel guy on September 10, 2013 at 7:08 AM

How much did this “cost” the U.S.?

justltl on September 10, 2013 at 7:53 AM

How much did this “cost” the U.S.?

justltl on September 10, 2013 at 7:53 AM

About the same as one of Michelle’s vacations, minus the airlift for the mutt expense.

Don L on September 10, 2013 at 8:11 AM

When this is near the end, they will take out a ficticious Syrian whiskey distillery and claim victory. Messiahs can do that stuff ya know.

Don L on September 10, 2013 at 8:15 AM

So Assad turns over CW to the badass UN. Tell me again how many Croatians were murdered by the Serbs while under direct UN protection?

Badass my ass

BigAlSouth on September 10, 2013 at 9:06 AM

Well, since Shrillary has now explained it all away, we can move forward to the next distraction while our country is being sold down the river. Is a monetary collapse up next?

Kissmygrits on September 10, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Kerry reads HotAir!

Establish a joint storage and security commission for the security of all chemical weapons to be stored out side of the country of conflict administered jointly by The US, Russia, Great Briton and France. Ownership to be returned after the conflict at the direction of the United Nations.

jpcpt03 on August 30, 2013 at 10:44 PM

jpcpt03 on September 10, 2013 at 7:05 PM

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