Did Kerry blink in Syria standoff? Update: Russia ups the ante

posted at 10:01 am on September 9, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Last week, Democratic Senators Joe Manchin and Heidi Heitkamp announced their opposition to American military intervention in Syria, and proposed a 45-day ultimatum for Bashar al-Assad to give up his chemical weapons first.  Barack Obama seemed to dismiss that option last week at the G-20 summit, but ABC News reports that John Kerry may have offered it as a way out of the trap Obama has set for himself:

America’s top diplomat suggested in a passing remark that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad could avoid a U.S.-led strike if he handed over all his chemical weapons, but the State Department quickly dismissed the comment as more of a “rhetorical argument” than an offer.

In a London news conference this morning, Secretary of State John Kerry responded to a question about whether Assad could do anything to avoid war by saying “he could turn over every single bit of his chemical weapons to the international community in the next week. Turn it over, all of it, without delay and allow a full and total accounting.”

Kerry delivered the statement almost dismissively and quickly said Assad had no intention of giving up “weapons he denies using.” But it was still the first time such a suggestion had been made by the Obama administration.

Was this a clever ploy to retreat from a losing situation at home and abroad, or was this a fumble by America’s top diplomat?  A hasty State Department correction suggests the latter:

The State Department was forced to clarify the remarks, calling them “rhetorical” and making clear its desire to strike could be tempered by a Syrian offer. Kerry’s point, according to spokeswoman Jen Psaki, “was that this brutal dictator with a history of playing fast and loose with the facts cannot be trusted to turn over chemical weapons.”

In other words … smooth move.  Putting that on the table gives the only US ally even potentially willing to contribute to a military operation that much more reason to pause, and the rest of the global community a chance to point out that the US hasn’t made any effort over the past year to resolve this issue peacefully.  That won’t help the White House in Congress, where the Manchin-Heitkamp approach may look a lot more rational, especially with the confused and amateurish bungling in the Obama administration.

Meanwhile, Russia and Syria have made another play for more time.  Both nations called for the return of UN inspectors to Syria for more investigation into a series of alleged chemical-weapons attacks:

Russian and Syrian foreign ministers on Monday strongly pushed for the return of United Nations inspectors to Syria to continue their probe into the use of chemical weapons and again warned Washington against launching an attack.

The statement comes as President Barack Obama, who blames President Bashar Assad for killing hundreds of his own people in a chemical attack last month, is pressing for a limited strike against the Syrian government. It has denied launching the attack, insisting along with its ally Russia that the attack was launched by the rebels to drag the U.S. into war.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said after Monday’s talks with his Syrian counterpart Walid al-Moallem that U.N. chemical weapons experts should complete their probe and present their findings to the U.N. Security Council.

“We have agreed to push for the soonest return of inspectors,” Lavrov said.

Al-Moallem said his government was ready to host the U.N. team, and insisted that Syria is ready to use all channels to convince the Americans that it wasn’t behind the attack.

He added that Syria was ready for “full cooperation with Russia to remove any pretext for aggression.”

After Kerry’s statement, it’s going to be more difficult for the White House to argue that the time for diplomacy has ended.

Update: And right on queue, Russia steps into the sweet spot left by Kerry:

The Russian foreign minister says Moscow will push Syria to place its chemical weapons under international control.

Sergey Lavrov said Monday that if such a move would help avert a possible U.S. strike on Syria, Russia will start work “immediately” to persuade Syria to relinquish control over its chemical arsenals.

Lavrov told reporters that Russia would urge Syria to concentrate its chemical weapons in certain areas under international oversight and then dismantle them.

This is the difference between playing checkers and three-dimensional chess.


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Kerry can’t blink, botox has paralyzed his eyelids.

Oldnuke on September 9, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Coherence from this administration in this debacle…

That’s expecting an awful lot from the social media administration.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 10:06 AM

Oh, and !pohsiB

Oldnuke on September 9, 2013 at 10:06 AM

There are going to be weeks with these people flapping their gums about why we have to attack Syria. I am so sick of it. But I would be surprised if donks don’t start reversing there antiwar position and end up supporting obammy.

Blake on September 9, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Many thanks to all of you who stayed home Election Day for giving us this insane clusterF.

I’ve never seen a bigger collection of clowns in my life, and they’re headed in this effort by Hanoi John, who never met a dictator he didn’t like, until now.

juliesa on September 9, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Remember folks…

The White House has assured us this isn’t a War War…or to be clear it’s an unbelievably small ‘w’ War.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 10:08 AM

After Kerry’s statement, it’s going to be more difficult for the White House to argue that the time for diplomacy has ended.

When did it begin?

Happy Nomad on September 9, 2013 at 10:08 AM

Cue Russia to offer to send in troops to supervise the safe keeping of these weapons while international inspectors do an accounting. What does Obama do then?

This will not only allow Assad to play for time but will allow Russia to freely move weapons into Syria in support of their “peace keeping” troops.

Rocks on September 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM

There are going to be weeks with these people flapping their gums about why we have to attack Syria. I am so sick of it. But I would be surprised if donks don’t start reversing there antiwar position and end up supporting obammy.

Blake on September 9, 2013 at 10:07 AM

The rise of the neo-hawk. It’s okay to go to war if the Dem President feels it is the right thing to do. No proof needed, just feelings.

Happy Nomad on September 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM

Kerry just makes up stuff as he goes along.
A thought pops into his head, he says it…with no regard to what he has said before.

albill on September 9, 2013 at 10:11 AM

Ah yes, the adults are still in charge, folks. The smartest people in the room making all the right moves. Oh boy, 3 more years of this.

smfic on September 9, 2013 at 10:12 AM

The White House has assured us this isn’t a War War…or to be clear it’s an unbelievably small ‘w’ War.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 10:08 AM

People will be killed. Buildings damaged. Cruise missiles employed. Military involved…….

It’s a war and there is no such thing as a unbelievably small war.

Happy Nomad on September 9, 2013 at 10:12 AM

Folks we have the Keystone Cops running our Government.

Johnnyreb on September 9, 2013 at 10:12 AM

Many thanks to all of you who stayed home Election Day for giving us this insane clusterF.

I’ve never seen a bigger collection of clowns in my life, and they’re headed in this effort by Hanoi John, who never met a dictator he didn’t like, until now.

juliesa on September 9, 2013 at 10:07 AM

McLame recieved $176,000.00 in campaign donations from defense contractors…and those senators on the committee that voted for the small ‘w’ War that isn’t really a War War also received large contributions from the same contractors when compared to those who voted no.

Assad is an a-hole…no doubt a about it but he’s right when he said If we strike we ally with and aid Al Qaeda.

So there ya go.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Every night I go to bed comfortable knowing we have the smartest, most capable people keeping us safe.

NotCoach on September 9, 2013 at 10:14 AM

And, you don’t beleve we’re on the Eve of Destruction…

kingsjester on September 9, 2013 at 10:14 AM

I want to know how Heidi Heitkamp won in North Dakota?

celtic warrior on September 9, 2013 at 10:15 AM

Kerry can’t blink, botox has paralyzed his eyelids.

Oldnuke on September 9, 2013 at 10:05 AM

As a doctor I have done several facial botox cases. Kerry either had several botched botox applications, or he has had a stroke. His demeanor strongly suggests the latter.

NOMOBO on September 9, 2013 at 10:16 AM

The White House has assured us this isn’t a War War…or to be clear it’s an unbelievably small ‘w’ War.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 10:08 AM

People will be killed. Buildings damaged. Cruise missiles employed. Military involved…….

It’s a war and there is no such thing as a unbelievably small war.

Happy Nomad on September 9, 2013 at 10:12 AM

In a rational world you are correct.

But see Obama and his Smart Power Brain Trust conducted an internet poll during the Last taping of American Idol and discussed the whole thingy on Twitter…

His PR team is working on the videos as we speak….and besides Putin made Obama look bad at the summit or something.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 10:17 AM

Russian and Syrian foreign ministers on Monday strongly pushed for the return of United Nations inspectors to Syria to continue their probe into the use of chemical weapons and again warned Washington against launching an attack.

They’re giving Obama a way out and a way to save face. Let’s hope he takes it.

WisRich on September 9, 2013 at 10:17 AM

And, you don’t beleve we’re on the Eve of Destruction…

kingsjester on September 9, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Oh! Maybe not the eve but very close. Intervening or not, the thin-skinned rat has already so mucked up conditions in Syria, Libya, and Egypt that there will be repercussions for generations.

Happy Nomad on September 9, 2013 at 10:17 AM

Happy Nomad on September 9, 2013 at 10:17 AM

Yep.

kingsjester on September 9, 2013 at 10:19 AM

Isn’t there some communications standard that if you have to clarify remarks that you’ve lost the argument?

Or maybe it’s if you have to explain a joke, it isn’t one?

tru2tx on September 9, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Folks we have the Keystone Cops running our Government.

Johnnyreb on September 9, 2013 at 10:12 AM

Not quite . . . Obama and his gaggle of fools make the Keystone Cops look like a well organized group of experts.

rplat on September 9, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Blink????? I don’t think Lurches Botox injected skull has the ability to think much less allow his eyes to blink.

roflmmfao

donabernathy on September 9, 2013 at 10:21 AM

In a rational world you are correct.

But see Obama and his Smart Power Brain Trust conducted an internet poll during the Last taping of American Idol and discussed the whole thingy on Twitter…

His PR team is working on the videos as we speak….and besides Putin made Obama look bad at the summit or something.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 10:17 AM

These are the same “smart” people who tell us a coup didn’t happen in Egypt. That’s good enough for me!

NotCoach on September 9, 2013 at 10:21 AM

But see Obama and his Smart Power Brain Trust conducted an internet poll during the Last taping of American Idol and discussed the whole thingy on Twitter…

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 10:17 AM

Obama’s brain trust all come from faculty lounges. It would be nice if they had people that actually understand this stuff instead of people that understand the theory of this stuff.

If the thin-skinned rat can’t go on television and deliver a speech where the reason for going to war is clear, what we’re going to do as a nation, and what the end state is…… then you don’t go to war. Instead, tomorrow all the bastard can say is “trust me.”

Happy Nomad on September 9, 2013 at 10:21 AM

No need to worry, Kerry has warned that the attack will be “unbelievably small”…

Pest on September 9, 2013 at 10:21 AM

No need to worry, Kerry has warned that the attack will be “unbelievably small”…

Pest on September 9, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Which is pretty appropriate, coming from this Administration
full of Very Small Individuals….

ToddPA on September 9, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Good job democrat voters. Good fking job.

Murphy9 on September 9, 2013 at 10:24 AM

‘Atrocities, like those committed by Bashar al-Assad, will not happen again.’

– Secretary of State John Kerry, today

‘Cuz, like, um, ya know, ‘unbelievably small’ airstrikes and big words will prevent them. /

‘Employment of airstrikes alone…would create a double jeopardy: IT WOULD COMPRISE AN ACT OF WAR AND WOULD ALSO ENTAIL THE RISK OF HAVING INTERVENED AND LOST.’

– Pres Eisenhower on intervening in Vietnam on behalf of France

Like Kerry’s brain, but unlike his ego ~> ‘unbelievably small.’

Resist We Much on September 9, 2013 at 10:25 AM

I could totally see Obama jumping on the return of the U.N..

Cindy Munford on September 9, 2013 at 10:26 AM

Obama’s brain trust all come from faculty lounges. It would be nice if they had people that actually understand this stuff instead of people that understand the theory of this stuff.

Happy Nomad on September 9, 2013 at 10:21 AM

That’s the problem more than anything else. Not so much they know theory only, but the bad theories they use as their foundation. It’s a bunch of brainfrees with no real knowledge of history or the world. When all you’ve got is the Marxist theory of Western hegemony ruining the world everything looks like an opportunity to do some community organizing.

NotCoach on September 9, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Basically we’ve got to this point – “we bungled this so bad please allow us to shoot off one missile, with warning, at an aspirin factory so we are not completely humiliated”.

Tater Salad on September 9, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Yeah, I’m sure folks all over the world who are paying attention to this situation collectively thought “Huh? I thought the great and powerful O was gonna blitz Assad.”

Assad heard Kerry and will probably reply “Molon Labe.”

Zero, what is the first rule of holes?

dogsoldier on September 9, 2013 at 10:30 AM

Kerry: turn over every single bit of his chemical weapons to the international community in the next week

… or he will personally rape, cut off ears, cut off heads, tape wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turn up the power

faraway on September 9, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Did Kerry blink in Syria standoff?

How can Kerry blink?

He has had his eyes closed for decades.

[Have we restored our “world prestige” yet, John?}

coldwarrior on September 9, 2013 at 10:33 AM

faraway on September 9, 2013 at 10:32 AM

…in the manner of Genghis Khan, of course.

coldwarrior on September 9, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Resist We Much on September 9, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Nice quote, and remember whatever those missiles hit it will be a school, daycare center, hospital, world famous muslim home for unwed mothers, maybe a mosque.

With signs and oh yeah youtube video, facebook updates and tweets.

dogsoldier on September 9, 2013 at 10:34 AM

The White House cannot afford to have Syria take them up on this offer, just in case the rumors were true and Syria’s WMD came courtesy of Saddam Hussein before the 2003 war.

thuljunior on September 9, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Let’s support these people:

‘Either You Convert to Islam, Or You Will Be Beheaded’

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/09/09/Maaloula-Syria-rebels

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

davidk on September 9, 2013 at 10:38 AM

Cameron to Parliament confirmed he will not try and persuade the UK to get involved militarily…will lead on Humanitarian efforts etc.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 10:39 AM

According to the Geneva Protocol it is ok to stock-pile chemical weapons, you just can’t use them. On the other hand Syria never signed on to the GP.

Dasher on September 9, 2013 at 10:40 AM

America’s top diplomat suggested in a passing remark that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad could avoid a U.S.-led strike if he handed over all his chemical weapons, but the State Department quickly dismissed the comment as more of a “rhetorical argument” than an offer.

so is the administration saying that even if assad hands over his chem weps they will still attack?? cause that seems counter-productive. and now the gang that couldnt shoot straight has backed themselves into another corner. i bet russia picks up on this and starts working the angle of “lets try to get syria to give up chem weps” to the world while behind the scenes telling assad they dont care and to keep on keeping on.

chasdal on September 9, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Assad totally pawned Obama with this pre-emptive interview and made a more coherent case.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 10:42 AM

According to the Geneva Protocol it is ok to stock-pile chemical weapons, you just can’t use them. On the other hand Syria never signed on to the GP.

Dasher on September 9, 2013 at 10:40 AM

Putin has made the case internationally that the US is forcing their decadence at the expense of nations sovereignty and wreaking chaos.

Things have turned upside down when Putin and China are winning the propaganda war by defending their cultures and sovereignty from President Historical Chaos.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Kerry delivers his ‘one-week’ ultimatum and the State Department immediately dismisses it as ‘rhetorical’.

Don’t you just love to see how these idiots have each other’s backs? How long before they start throwing one another under busses?

I’ll give Horseface this: he’s making Joe Biden look awfully good.

timmytee on September 9, 2013 at 10:47 AM

Kerry has presented Bark O’Barry with a game console with three buttons:

(WAR) (War) (war)

Yoop on September 9, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Putin has made the case internationally that the US is forcing their decadence at the expense of nations sovereignty and wreaking chaos.

Things have turned upside down when Putin and China are winning the propaganda war by defending their cultures and sovereignty from President Historical Chaos.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Putin promises to protect Christianity worldwide

http://rt.com/politics/putin-foreign-make-representatives-797/

And obama wants to help people who want to behead Christians: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/09/09/Maaloula-Syria-rebels

davidk on September 9, 2013 at 10:50 AM

‘Employment of airstrikes alone…would create a double jeopardy: IT WOULD COMPRISE AN ACT OF WAR AND WOULD ALSO ENTAIL THE RISK OF HAVING INTERVENED AND LOST.’

– Pres Eisenhower on intervening in Vietnam on behalf of France

Resist We Much on September 9, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Ike wasn’t running the risk of being mocked by Nikita Khrushchev.

Happy Nomad on September 9, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Was this a clever ploy to retreat from a losing situation at home and abroad

Clever ploy and John Kerry are mutually exclusive!

huckleberryfriend on September 9, 2013 at 10:53 AM

This is the difference between playing checkers and three-dimensional chess.

Omockme plays spades with reggie love. No time for chess or checkers.

VegasRick on September 9, 2013 at 10:54 AM

So is tomorrow night canceled or his he just going to talk about how he negotiated world peace? Not only are our guys rank amateurs, I have to say that I don’t see anyone on the horizon on either side that isn’t just as ignorant.

Cindy Munford on September 9, 2013 at 10:55 AM

Moscow isn’t playing 3-dimensional chess; that’s just competent checkers. Kerry and Obama are eating paste.

flip on September 9, 2013 at 10:56 AM

This is the difference between playing checkers and three-dimensional chess.

Absolutely.

Here’s another analogy.

Putin – Stratovarius. Obama – Kazoo

WisRich on September 9, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Moscow isn’t playing 3-dimensional chess; that’s just competent checkers. Kerry and Obama are eating paste.

flip on September 9, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Exactly. This isn’t shouldn’t be rocket science.

davidk on September 9, 2013 at 11:01 AM

flip on September 9, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Well said.

coldwarrior on September 9, 2013 at 11:05 AM

A stupid country has stupid leaders. Shocka! The smart folks in the stupid country complain a lot. Human history continues…

Ceteris Paribus on September 9, 2013 at 11:05 AM

This is the difference between playing checkers and three-dimensional chess.

Yes, Obama is playing checkers and still managed to get himself into checkmate. Assad will agree to this immediately. What’s the downside? He can always make more.

Rocks on September 9, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Update: And right on queue, Russia steps into the sweet spot left by Kerry:

So will Obama go over to congress and do an Emily Litella?

dogsoldier on September 9, 2013 at 11:08 AM

Kerry can’t blink, botox has paralyzed his eyelids.

Oldnuke on September 9, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Althouse caught a fine picture of JF’nK: Kerry Fall Guy

But seriously, being able to direct your eyes independently is a useful skill for an SoS. You know, keep one eye on this situation, another on that problem, etc.

slickwillie2001 on September 9, 2013 at 11:08 AM

So is tomorrow night canceled or his he just going to talk about how he negotiated world peace? Not only are our guys rank amateurs, I have to say that I don’t see anyone on the horizon on either side that isn’t just as ignorant.

Cindy Munford on September 9, 2013 at 10:55 AM

Cancelled? No. Once Assad says yes Obama will declare a “victory for diplomacy” and the MSM will quickly follow suit. Unfortunately for him it’s RUSSIAN diplomacy.

Rocks on September 9, 2013 at 11:09 AM

And the rebels supply of chemicals????

TerryW on September 9, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Yes, Obama is playing checkers and still managed to get himself into checkmate. Assad will agree to this immediately. What’s the downside? He can always make more.

Rocks on September 9, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Yep. Obama has put himself into a no win situation here…if the Syrians agree to do this and Obama strikes anyway, the backlash will be even worse. But if he doesn’t, he will have been embarrassed into walking away from punishing Assad and lose even more credibility.

This is what happens when so called academics try to play tough guys, boys and girls.

changer1701 on September 9, 2013 at 11:13 AM

WTF.

It was reported 11 months ago how this Syrian attack would be precipitated by a False Flag scenario carried out by Brennan and Obama. Facilitated by The MB along with Turkey’s Erdogan and the Saudi’s. these are the people behind the gas attack events in Syria.

11 freaking months ago. Tell me how someone could write a column on October 8, 2012 that would describe the exact scenario that has unfolded.

Link: Lemmings…at the precipice of WW III’ by Doug Hagman.

We’re being played folks. If Congress balks, expect the jack offs behind this to pull off another “event” to be blamed on the Syrians. Maybe here, maybe soon.

There is simply too much money at stake. Putin is telling the truth.

there it is on September 9, 2013 at 11:13 AM

Not to nitpick, but I think it’s “right on cue.”

Maddie on September 9, 2013 at 11:15 AM

I can see that Obama will claim “victory” because he scared the Syrians to hand over their chemical weapons… What’s that you say it was the Russians?

sandee on September 9, 2013 at 11:15 AM

The President is deep in the plak tow, and demands koon-ut-kal-if-fee from Assad.

There is no other explanation that works in this situation.

DarthBrooks on September 9, 2013 at 11:15 AM

We just got our asses kicked, by a bunch of Russians.

budfox on September 9, 2013 at 11:18 AM

If only Robert McNamara were still alive to see the actual protesters of his war architecture using his blue prints for a new limited police action.

deepdiver on September 9, 2013 at 11:20 AM

Moscow isn’t playing 3-dimensional chess; that’s just competent checkers. Kerry and Obama are eating paste.

flip on September 9, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Putin has enlarged his US is a decadent bully causing chaos to endanger sovereign nations argument…

Putin is making the International Argument that Obama’s Arab Spring Chaos is spreading…and he’s making that argument successfully on the International Stage and with China behind him..

So Yeah…He’s playing 3D chess

“MOSCOW (AP) — President Vladimir Putin has ordered Russian security agencies to act more harshly to fend off foreign attempts to destabilize the restive North Caucasus region ahead of the 2014 Winter Games in Sochi.

Addressing Monday’s meeting of the presidential Security Council, Putin said unspecified “foreign countries and public and international organizations under their control keep seeing the North Caucasus as a foothold for destabilizing Russia as a whole.”

He urged Russian security agencies to “act more harshly to thwart such attempts.”

Putin added that “neutralizing the terrorist and criminal threats is particularly important in connection with the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi.”

The North Caucasus region has been engulfed by an Islamist insurgency following two separatist wars in Chechnya…”

http://news.yahoo.com/putin-foreign-nations-try-destabilize-caucasus-130622544–spt.html

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 11:21 AM

That won’t help the White House in Congress, where the Manchin-Heitkamp approach may look a lot more rational, especially with the confused and amateurish bungling in the Obama

Well duh. Who in the Oboobi admin has had executive admin experience? No one. What experience they did have were pushed out for more faculty lounge set. Manchin was once a governor and pretty good for a donk so it makes sense he would have ideas for de-escalating conflict. The REB oth can’t even organize a community of one, let alone a coalition of several nations.

AH_C on September 9, 2013 at 11:22 AM

The REB oth can’t even organize a community of one, let alone a coalition of several nations.

AH_C on September 9, 2013 at 11:22 AM

For what does REB stand?

davidk on September 9, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Update: And right on queue, Russia steps into the sweet spot left by Kerry:

What a stroke of luck for the Obama Administration. I can’t believe the Russians are taking the position and the lead in disarming Assad of his chemical weapons. We’d never have been able to accomplish this otherwise.

This is a win-win almost all the way around.

If Obama were smart, he’d jump on this like a $1,000,000 fundraising dinner looking for a speaker. If he does it swiftly enough and pulls the Russians in just a bit more he can make it appear this was his strategy and can dance all the way to 2014.

If he drags his feet at all, though, he’ll be seen as the biggest bumbler in history.

Dusty on September 9, 2013 at 11:25 AM

If he surrenders them will they say “Property of Saddam Hussein” on them?

Wander on September 9, 2013 at 11:27 AM

We just got our asses kicked, by a bunch of Russians.

budfox on September 9, 2013 at 11:18 AM

True.

This can happen when LIV’s elect an empty suit.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 11:28 AM

This is a win-win almost all the way around.
Dusty on September 9, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Blabbering his way toward WWIII and getting bailed out by the Russians is not a win-win for #Occupy Resolute Desk.

That said…I hope Emptysuit takes the bailout and shuts up…playing Golf for the next 3 years.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 11:31 AM

If he drags his feet at all, though, he’ll be seen as the biggest bumbler in history.

Dusty on September 9, 2013 at 11:25 AM

This has already happened and was confirmed at the Summit.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 11:32 AM

I’ll expand on my previous comment.

Do it, Barry. Do it. Push the Russians a wee bit more, right now. Scoff at their proposal. Say it’s not a serious offer, but a ploy to protect their thuggish proxy Assad and have no intention of following through. Get them to repeat and expand on it a little.

If they do, then announce that you will request Congress to postpone action for a day to pursue this in earnest, and state Kerry will be going to Russia to discuss it with Russia’s foreign minister.

Do it.

Dusty on September 9, 2013 at 11:34 AM

This has already happened and was confirmed at the Summit.

[workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 11:32 AM]

Whatever. Columbo was a bumbler, or so everyone thought. Here’s a chance to for Obama to make it look, in retrospect like his wasn’t, or at least that he was able to right himself.

And I’ll add more to the benefits of this approach and if it’s successful:

- eliminates the need to ever put boots on the ground in Syria to secure the chemical weapons,
- pretty much guarantees the Islamist rebels get thier hands on the weapons,
- put Obama’s in the verification driver seat, and the Russians the on the hot seat to accomplish it,
- eliminates a wider war breaking out,
- takes the heat off Congress,
- makes the American public happy we aren’t getting too involved and only so far as to be a kibbitzer.
- Obama does what the UN cannot do.

I’m not happy that Obama will be able to crow ’til the cows come home on it if successful but this enhances the prestige and reputation of the US if done well and that is what is most important to me.

Dusty on September 9, 2013 at 11:46 AM

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/09/us-syria-chemical-weapons-attack-john-kerry

A new ultimatum? One week?

Not an ultimatum according to State:
http://gma.yahoo.com/did-us-offer-syrian-president-125806202–abc-news-topstories.html

The State Department was forced to clarify the remarks, calling them “rhetorical” and making clear its desire to strike could be tempered by a Syrian offer. Kerry’s point, according to spokeswoman Jen Psaki, “was that this brutal dictator with a history of playing fast and loose with the facts cannot be trusted to turn over chemical weapons.”

Wow. He was for an ultimatum before he was against one, or something.

We have complete amateurs running our government. Kerry can’t make statements like that in the absence of congressional approval.

dogsoldier on September 9, 2013 at 11:48 AM

I’m not happy that Obama will be able to crow ’til the cows come home on it if successful but this enhances the prestige and reputation of the US if done well and that is what is most important to me.

Dusty on September 9, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Not gonna happen.

dogsoldier on September 9, 2013 at 11:49 AM

“was that this brutal dictator with a history of playing fast and loose with the facts cannot be trusted to turn over chemical weapons.”

Are we talking about Assad or Obama here?

You do all know that Obama flipped every single American the middle finger by having the proven liar Susan Rice push for his war of discretion.

jukin3 on September 9, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Russia ups the ante

How could that be? Russia should be scared sh*tless by now after Obama’s constant red line repositioning.

You mean, Russia didn’t get a “thrill up it’s leg” when Obama was elected like little Chrissy Matthews?

Kingfisher on September 9, 2013 at 11:52 AM

SYRIA ACCEPTS Russian Proposal…

ZeroHedge:
Update: Just as suspected, Syria promptly complies with the Russian check: SYRIA WELCOMES RUSSIA’S PROPOSAL FOR DAMASCUS TO PUT ITS CHEMICAL WEAPONS UNDER INTERNATIONAL CONTROL- FOREIGN MINISTER WALID AL-MOUALEM.

Bwahahahahahahaha

Putin is just SCHOOLING Obama/Kerry….I must admit…I’m loving me some Pooty-Poot right now

LordMaximus on September 9, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Putin has made the case internationally that the US is forcing their decadence at the expense of nations sovereignty and wreaking chaos.

Things have turned upside down when Putin and China are winning the propaganda war by defending their cultures and sovereignty from President Historical Chaos.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Putin promises to protect Christianity worldwide

http://rt.com/politics/putin-foreign-make-representatives-797/

And obama wants to help people who want to behead Christians: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/09/09/Maaloula-Syria-rebels

davidk on September 9, 2013 at 10:50 AM

*facepalm*

Hate to say it but Putin is really playing this well.

#Occupy Resolute Desk & The Smart Power Brain Trust are so totally clueless they don’t even understand what is happening.

We should just ride it out till we get some competent conservatives in DC.

Go Play Golf Barry.

Have another Vodka Comrade…Try our Caviar

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Update: Russia ups the ante

This is a big problem for Obama in the House of representatives. There’s a number of commie lovers still there who would love to squash an attack AND give Russia a win here. Expect them to push hard for Obama to take the deal. Plus they themselves get out of having to vote.

Rocks on September 9, 2013 at 12:04 PM

SYRIA ACCEPTS Russian Proposal…

ZeroHedge:
Update: Just as suspected, Syria promptly complies with the Russian check: SYRIA WELCOMES RUSSIA’S PROPOSAL FOR DAMASCUS TO PUT ITS CHEMICAL WEAPONS UNDER INTERNATIONAL CONTROL- FOREIGN MINISTER WALID AL-MOUALEM.

Bwahahahahahahaha

Putin is just SCHOOLING Obama/Kerry….I must admit…I’m loving me some Pooty-Poot right now

LordMaximus on September 9, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Checkmate and match.

Rocks on September 9, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Seriously…can we just IMPEACH this guy already….put him out to pasture…he’s the Lamest of Lame ducks

LordMaximus on September 9, 2013 at 12:07 PM

From Reuters:

Syria welcomes Russia’s proposal for Damascus to put its chemical weapons under international control: Foreign Minister Walid Al-Moualem

Obama officially becomes the first President to get his ass handed to him via Twitter. Unprecedented!

Rocks on September 9, 2013 at 12:09 PM

Whatever. Columbo was a bumbler, or so everyone thought. Here’s a chance to for Obama to make it look, in retrospect like his wasn’t, or at least that he was able to right himself.
Dusty on September 9, 2013 at 11:46 AM

ehemmmm….No.

Preezy Incompetent has been exposed for what he is…and the World is way bigger than his LIV electorate.

Putin has stepped into the vacuum and is portraying the US as out of control on the payroll of the Saudis who are creating Chaos with Al Qaeda….and this chaos is spreading to other regions like the Caucasus.

When Obama met with the Gay Russkies in a feeble attempt to b*tchslap Putin….They told him to stay out of Syria. He can’t even win over the Gays in Russia.

Putin is making the case that the US is spreading their decadence through chaos at the expense of individual national sovereignty…He’s upended and co-opted the argument.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 12:12 PM

“was that this brutal dictator with a history of playing fast and loose with the facts cannot be trusted to turn over chemical weapons.”

Are we talking about Assad or Obama here?

You do all know that Obama flipped every single American the middle finger by having the proven liar Susan Rice push for his war of discretion.

jukin3 on September 9, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Clash of the Tyrants.

Coming soon to a theatre near you

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Resign, already!

dpduq on September 9, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Asaad accepted Russia’s proposal of having chemicals monitored by int’l community.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Checkers?!

Obama’s playing Candy Land as far as I’m concerned…

Skywise on September 9, 2013 at 12:25 PM

John Kerry and Barack Obama have their own Road to Damascus experience coming up. But not the kind that leads to salvation.

Demonized on September 9, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Kerry’s point, according to spokeswoman Jen Psaki, “was that this brutal dictator with a history of playing fast and loose with the facts cannot be trusted to turn over chemical weapons.”

Um, Jen honey? I really wouldn’t have done that if I were you.

katy the mean old lady on September 9, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Not gonna happen.

[dogsoldier on September 9, 2013 at 11:49 AM]

Probably not.

Dusty on September 9, 2013 at 1:04 PM

For what does REB stand?davidk on September 9, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Rat eared bastard

AH_C on September 9, 2013 at 1:05 PM

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