CNN poll shows nearly six in 10 oppose military authorization for Syria

posted at 12:01 pm on September 9, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

We call making appearances on all five major Sunday talk shows the “full Ginsburg,” but Barack Obama may create a new term today with interviews on all six major news networks.  Call it the “full Desperado.”  Obama will make his case for military attacks on Syria to a highly skeptical public in a desperate attempt to avoid disaster on Capitol Hill this week:

President Obama spends much of Monday in front of television cameras, giving interviews on Syria ahead of major congressional votes.

Obama speaks with anchors at ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, CNN, and PBS, seeking support for a military strike at Bashar Assad’s government over the use of chemical weapons. …

The television interviews are part of a major lobbying effort as Congress prepares to vote on authorizing military action.

The President has already made the public case for intervention a number of times, with press conferences that have done more to undermine his credibility than make a case, and with Secretary of State John Kerry testifying on Capitol Hill and doing a series of interviews to argue the case more forcefully than Obama has.  Has any of that made a dent in public opinion?  According to CNN’s latest poll, the answer is a reverberating no:

As President Barack Obama presses his case for a strike on Syria, a new national survey shows him swimming against a strong tide of public opinion that doesn’t want the U.S. to get involved.

The CNN/ORC International poll released Monday shows that even though eight in 10 Americans believe that Bashar al-Assad’s regime gassed its own people, a strong majority doesn’t want Congress to pass a resolution authorizing a military strike against it.

More than seven in 10 say such a strike would not achieve significant goals for the U.S. and a similar amount say it’s not in the national interest for the U.S. to get involved in Syria’s bloody two-year-long civil war.

According to the poll, 59% oppose the authorization in Congress for military action, and 55% would oppose military action even if Congress authorized it.  Democrats favor the resolution, 56/43 with Republicans at 36/63, and independents even more strongly in opposition at 29/67.  Majorities oppose it in every geographical region, every gender and ethnic demo, and in every age demo. In fact, the only demo to favor the authorization at all is Democrats. On military action with an approved authorization, things don’t improve much. Democrats narrowly favor action with authorization, 51/47 with Republicans exactly flipped at 47/51, but independents strongly oppose it by 36/61.  Majorities oppose it in every geographical region, every gender and ethnic demo, and in every age demo except 50-64YOs, where it ties 49/49. [See update.]

If Obama doesn’t get the authorization, though, the numbers get very bad indeed. Seventy-one percent would oppose military action in that case, a proportion that carries through every demographic except for Democrats (still opposed at 36/63), non-whites (34/66), and 50-64YOs (33/67).  About the same percentage doesn’t think military strikes will “achieve significant goals for the United States,” 26/72, which explains why 69% of respondents don’t think that the US has a national interest in the Syrian civil war. That, by the way, includes 56% of Democrats.

The only good news for Obama in this poll is that a majority of respondents say that their votes in the midterms won’t be impacted by the vote on the authorization (57%).  However, among those who will take that into account fourteen months from now, sentiment runs nearly 3:1 against at 11/31.  It’s 4:1 among independents at 9/36, and 5:1 in the West (7/38), where Democrats hoped to make gains against Republicans with social-libertarian policies.

Obama has a very tough climb against this kind of entrenched skepticism, and so far the White House case isn’t having any impact at all.  That’s why Obama is throwing himself into the full Desperado tonight.

Update: Via Guy Benson, I pulled the wrong demos on the question of the authorization; the actual demos are even worse for Obama.


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R congressman this morning “98/2 calls, against”.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 12:05 PM

Six in ten?

Wow.

That’s about the ratio of people that would respond that water is wet.

turfmann on September 9, 2013 at 12:05 PM

Still, I bank on the Rs to vote with obama, the stupid frucks.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 12:05 PM

on all six major news networks. Call it the “full Desperado.”

The azz who claimed that “Faux is not a real newsstation”, or some such, is now fully in their azz, because he needs idiots like Karl Rove and most all of Faux, to pass his “tiny action in Syria”.

What a stupid land!!!

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Americans, you don’t count.

Your overlords lord over you, just for their own gains and power.

YOU are nobodys.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Six in ten?

Wow.

That’s about the ratio of people that would respond that water is wet.

turfmann on September 9, 2013 at 12:05 PM

Half of the four in ten probably have no clue of the whereabouts of Syria, or that it even exists, its like whatever!

hawkeye54 on September 9, 2013 at 12:09 PM

Next week, we’ll be foaming at the mouth to conduct our unbelievably small attack.

CNN Poll: 112% Support Syria Strike

BobMbx on September 9, 2013 at 12:09 PM

Sounds like similar polls for the unlikelihood of Obama’s reelection. I’ll believe it when I see it.

happytobehere on September 9, 2013 at 12:09 PM

The only good news for Obama in this poll is that a majority of respondents say that their votes in the midterms won’t be impacted by the vote on the authorization

Ideologically paralyzed, aren’t they…#Jonestownmassacre

hillsoftx on September 9, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Republicans have supported fighting al-Qaida for twelve years, so obviously we should support the destroyer president fight for al-qaida.

Mormontheman on September 9, 2013 at 12:11 PM

TOO MUCH obama is the problem – how is adding MORE obama into the mix going to improve his chances? No thinking person wants anything to do with obama launching an unprovoked attack on the Syrian people.

Pork-Chop on September 9, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Bill Ayers has turned on Barack Obama, characterizing the president’s determination to launch a military attack on the regime of Bashar al-Assad in Syria as a “dumb war.”

http://www.wnd.com/2013/09/look-who-turns-against-obama-on-syria/#0sP1SqX2toe0dTii.99

tru2tx on September 9, 2013 at 12:12 PM

If the real intent of a punitive and very limited airstrike on Syrian targets is to send a message to Iran, which is rapidly approaching the nuclear threshold, then airstrikes are unnecessary. Iran has already received the message, which reads, “Hi, this is the Obama Administration? Just a quick note to remind you that we’re completely incapable of conducting foreign affairs. We’re so feckless, inept and indecisive that we even surprise ourselves sometimes. Please ignore us.”

troyriser_gopftw on September 9, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Obama speaks with anchors at ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, CNN, and PBS, seeking support for a military strike at Bashar Assad’s government over the use of chemical weapons. …

But not Univision? The Home Shopping Network? No sit-downs with Honey Boo Boo or one of the Kardashians? If Barak Obama wants to sway public opinion he needs to go where the LIVs live and that isn’t PBS.

Happy Nomad on September 9, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Syria accepted Russia’s proposal to put chemicals under int’l control.

kingsjester, for you.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Why is it called “the full Desperado”? I don’t recognize the reference.

J.S.K. on September 9, 2013 at 12:14 PM

A majority of respondents say that their votes in the midterms won’t be impacted by the vote on the authorization (57%).

If that’s true, that this issue is merely a blip on the screen that isn’t going to affect people’s larger political loyalities, that would be a shame. I was hoping we could get Boehner and Cantor out of leadership positions.

I’m actually madder about this issue than I am defunding. The idea that Boehner and Cantor jumped out to support President Peace Prize here is a bridge too far for me.

Burke on September 9, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Nearly 6 in 10?? So basically they’re saying that about half the people support attacking Syria. I don’t believe it.

Mimzey on September 9, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Republicans have supported fighting al-Qaida for twelve years, so obviously we should support the destroyer president fight for al-qaida.

Mormontheman on September 9, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Perfect!!!!!

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 12:14 PM

We call making appearances on all five major Sunday talk shows the “full Ginsburg,” but Barack Obama may create a new term today with interviews on all six major news networks. Call it the “full Desperado.”

I call it the “full Douchebag”.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 9, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Full desperado? More like the Full Monty.

Rocks on September 9, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Still, I bank on the Rs to vote with obama, the stupid frucks.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 12:05 PM

I want the votes taken. I don’t want the talk that the House will spare the humiliation of a Presidential defeat if the votes are not there to wage war on Syria.

Happy Nomad on September 9, 2013 at 12:16 PM

CNN poll shows nearly six in 10 oppose military authorization for Syria

That’s Americans. That doesn’t matter. Illegals are mostly for the attack which is what Barky and the GOP leadership turds really care about.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 9, 2013 at 12:17 PM

I wonder which one of these reporters will be the first to push Obama about Russia/Syria taking up Kerry on his offer?

Rocks on September 9, 2013 at 12:17 PM

All that happened today was the preservation of the loophole that lets dangerous criminals buy guns without a background check. That didn’t make our kids safer. Victory for not doing something that 90 percent of Americans, 80 percent of Republicans, the vast majority of your constituents wanted to get done? It begs the question, who are we here to represent?
 
- President Barack H. Obama, April 2013

rogerb on September 9, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Hah, inept WH, now retract Kerry’s redlineII.

….because Asaad agreed with Putin…

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 12:20 PM

I’m actually madder about this issue than I am defunding. The idea that Boehner and Cantor jumped out to support President Peace Prize here is a bridge too far for me.

Burke on September 9, 2013 at 12:14 PM

I’m with you exactly. Defunding would be nice and all but when I see American sailors lives being treated so cheaply by the CINC, well I can’t post here the words that come to mind.

And keep in mind, if the United States unilaterally wages war on Syria then Americans are going to die. If not on the ships off the coast of Syria then when a commercial airline is taken out or a store is bombed somewhere in the world.

Happy Nomad on September 9, 2013 at 12:20 PM

This sums it up for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqlJvGvtOvY

docflash on September 9, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Old hotness:

Speak softly…carry a big stick – Teddy Roosevelt

New Hotness:

Lie Incoherently and wield big stick with a limp wrist to impress imaginary allies – Barack Obama

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Obama extends open hand, pulls back a stump.

“Just a flesh wound”

BobMbx on September 9, 2013 at 12:21 PM

From other thread

Beck just said that Boehner is advising Obama on how to win over Republicans on the Syria strike.

I wish the House had the courage to revolt against Boehner!!!

bluefox on September 9, 2013 at 12:01 PM

One of the biggest fools in DC history is Boner.

Schadenfreude on September 9, 2013 at 12:22 PM

CNN poll shows nearly six in 10 oppose military authorization for Syria

And more Americans are following Miley Cyrus’ Twerk stories then events in Syria

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Why is it the Bush administration gave Saddam an ultimatum on declaring his WMD and/or records of it’s supposed disposal…yet, unless I missed it, nothing near that has been demanded of Assad? Russia might have the right idea about Assad putting his chem weapons stockpiles in “international hands”…but I’d assume that has to go through the UN, at least through the security council. And would China be on board with that?

JetBoy on September 9, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Obama extends open hand, pulls back a stump.

“Just a flesh wound”

BobMbx on September 9, 2013 at 12:21 PM

We put Vodka in our BBQ sauce Comerade…enjoy! – Putin

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Call it the “full Desperado.”

I’d prefer to call it the “full Obama”.

Desperado on September 9, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Envious of JFK, Obama Seeks His Own Bay of Pigs Fiasco

ted c on September 9, 2013 at 12:27 PM

I’m a bit surprised that it is only 6 in 10.

Cindy Munford on September 9, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Why is it the Bush administration gave Saddam an ultimatum on declaring his WMD and/or records of it’s supposed disposal…yet, unless I missed it, nothing near that has been demanded of Assad? Russia might have the right idea about Assad putting his chem weapons stockpiles in “international hands”…but I’d assume that has to go through the UN, at least through the security council. And would China be on board with that?

JetBoy on September 9, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Putin is being lawful.

Of course China is on board.

Putin is trumping Obama…Replacing him on the World Stage…Y’know the voice of reason sort of thingy…Post America World.

Europe will comply because Putin has his finger on their Heat this winter…and it’s gonna be a cold winter.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 12:27 PM

JetBoy on September 9, 2013 at 12:23 PM

There were 23 separate UN resolutions concerning Iraq. If Syria indeed broke some international norm, then let the UN figure out how to deal with the use of sarin gas.

Happy Nomad on September 9, 2013 at 12:28 PM

But a Red Line was created by the world…some how…we must act or there be a Red Line unattended.

Oil Can on September 9, 2013 at 12:35 PM

New Pew Poll: Syria takes toll on Obama’s approval rating

44% Approval
49% Disapproval

Opposition to Syria strike rises to 63% from 48% a week before.

http://www.people-press.org/2013/09/09/opposition-to-syrian-airstrikes-surges/

sentinelrules on September 9, 2013 at 12:40 PM

I’m a bit surprised that it is only 6 in 10.
Cindy Munford on September 9, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Keep in mind the source… A lot of huffing and fluffing went in to getting it to be that. It’s a lot closer to 8 in 10 based on everything else I am reading and seeing but we all must put on our brave faces for the O

Caseoftheblues on September 9, 2013 at 12:42 PM

New Pew Poll: Syria takes toll on Obama’s approval rating

44% Approval
49% Disapproval

Opposition to Syria strike rises to 63% from 48% a week before.

http://www.people-press.org/2013/09/09/opposition-to-syrian-airstrikes-surges/

sentinelrules on September 9, 2013 at 12:40 PM

If the Limbaugh Theorem holds true…Obama will not directly address the American People.

He’ll do his TeeVee interviews and then cancel because his approval ratings always fall when low information voters actually link him to his incompetent policies….Obama will provide nifty photos instead.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 12:46 PM

http://www.people-press.org/2013/09/09/opposition-to-syrian-airstrikes-surges/

sentinelrules on September 9, 2013 at 12:40 PM

This poll is actually encouraging. I think I’ll believe this one instead of the CNN one, even if it is Pew. That way I won’t get depressed.

Burke on September 9, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Understand this, when disapproval of an Obama decree it means the democrats and Obama will do everything to pass the hated legislation.

See: Stimulus, cACA bill, Dodd-Frank…

jukin3 on September 9, 2013 at 1:01 PM

C’mon America, support me in this unbelievably small attack that will act as a deterrent against an enemy that poses no security to us.

PackerBronco on September 9, 2013 at 1:09 PM

C’mon America, support me in this unbelievably small attack that will act as a deterrent against an enemy that poses no security threat to us.

PackerBronco on September 9, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Obama will not directly address the American People.

He’ll do his TeeVee interviews and then cancel because his approval ratings always fall when low information voters actually link him to his incompetent policies….Obama will provide nifty photos instead.

workingclass artist on September 9, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Whether he does the speech tomorrow night or not, he will not directly address the American people. He will lecture them. He will cajole them. He will demand we come around to his ideas about waging war. But at no time will he speak as if we are all co-equal Americans with the right to have dissenting opinions.

Bottom line, Obama doesn’t respect the American people enough to give the kind of speech that might sway opinion. And I don’t blame him. After two elections where the rat-eared bastard wins, I don’t have much respect for the American people either.

Happy Nomad on September 9, 2013 at 1:13 PM

CNN poll. Reality is probably closer to 80%

dogsoldier on September 9, 2013 at 1:29 PM

C’mon America, support me in this unbelievably small attack that will act as a deterrent against an enemy that poses no security threat to us.

PackerBronco on September 9, 2013 at 1:09 PM

AFTER they agreed to have the UN monitor their CWs and the UN agreed to do it, a country that WILL actually shoot back and kill some of OUR guys though.

This be new school.

dogsoldier on September 9, 2013 at 1:33 PM

So, when are these interviews to be aired??

pambi on September 9, 2013 at 1:53 PM

The Sunni Islamo-supremacists– who are romanticized as “rebels” by RINOs to avoid the inconvenience that they describe themselves as mujahideen (jihad warriors)– >are teeming with al-Qaeda-affiliated and al-Qaeda-inspired operatives

Remind folks again: Why are Americans being asked to save affiliates of the folks that chemically-attacked lower Manhattan?

Terp Mole on September 9, 2013 at 1:53 PM

Obama approval rating = Mr. Creosote
“Unbelievably small attack” = “Wafer thin mint”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aczPDGC3f8U

VelvetElvis on September 9, 2013 at 2:10 PM

The only good news for Obama in this poll is that a majority of respondents say that their votes in the midterms won’t be impacted by the vote on the authorization (57%).

That includes me. I’m not voting Democrat and any vote my Democratic representative makes won’t change that.

Fred 2 on September 9, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Weapons control to the rescue! Kerry threw it out there, Russia jumped on it, Assad agreed to hand them over, and the UN is absolutely delighted. So it’s all good.

Tomorrow night we’ll get the big Oval address: “I stood firm in the face of evil and in the face of my resolve, Assad backed down. He has agreed to proffer his heinous chemical weapons to the International Community for destruction. And that’s what needed to happen. Because there was never a military solution. The solution rested always in the International Community, embodied in the UN. And with my leadership, the world came together and forced Assad to surrender his kid-killing chemical weapons. We know, through our gun-control efforts here at home, that bad guys can be made to obey good laws. Brave women, including women like Samantha Power, tell us this is true. Accordingly, we have no doubt Assad will keep his commitment to the world and turn his weapons over. Because . . . diplomacy and women and children and honor and stuff.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-09/syria-welcomes-will-comply-russian-chemical-weapon-disarmament-initiative

Lawyer Mom on September 9, 2013 at 2:16 PM

CNN poll. Reality is probably closer to 80%

dogsoldier on September 9, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Yep, Bradley-Wilder.

slickwillie2001 on September 9, 2013 at 4:07 PM