WaPo whip count: 224 likely no votes in House on Syria now, enough to kill resolution

posted at 4:41 pm on September 6, 2013 by Allahpundit

Just 25 likely yeses, with fully 184 reps still quietly undecided. Even if that group splits with roughly two-thirds in favor of attacking, the House will be in the ballpark of defeating this thing with nearly 300 votes.

Right now, more than 60 Democrats are either firm no’s or leaning that way. Did O wait too long to deliver the national lecture on Syria?

A lack of any sort of obvious, coherent game plan for convincing the public action needs to be taken against Syria and a decision to leave congressmen in their districts to be confronted by angry voters is making it increasingly difficult for members to back President Obama.

“The calls have been overwhelmingly against. We should have been called back [into session] immediately, there should have been a national address, New Jersey Republican Frank LoBiondo said Thursday…

Leaving a hot button issue to linger in public is something of a rookie legislative move — leaders in both chambers will routinely keep controversial bills under wraps until after a recess to avoid opponents from picking it apart and building a public outcry against it.

But rather than bring Congress back into the protective cocoon of the Washington echo-chamber where they would be insulated from direct constituent contact, and more amenable to agreeing to strikes, the White House has left them vulnerable to public opinion.

According to Gallup’s new poll, support for hitting Syria is running at 36/51, the lowest level at the start of hostilities for any major American military action over the past 25 years. (Conservative and liberal opposition is similar at 33/59 and 37/51, respectively.) Only the intervention in Kosovo in 1999 saw public approval similarly underwater early on, and that was within the margin of error at 43/45. Not only that, but here’s a useful comparison from the Cook Report:

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It’s one thing to plan a big nationally televised pep talk to rally your allies in Congress when you’re sitting at 60 percent job approval. When you’re sitting at 44, and your party’s already facing a heavy lift in the midterms, there’s no such thing as “allies.” Not even Pelosi, who was willing to gamble the House majority on ObamaCare, is willing to twist arms on this one. Yet.

Via Mediaite, here’s Dana Bash of CNN telling Tapper that the White House’s classified briefings for House members aimed at persuading them to vote yes are … having the opposite effect. So that’s why the no’s in the whip count keep rising.

Update: Pelosi to the rescue:

Pelosi sent yet another “Dear Colleague” letter Friday to her Democratic cohorts urging them to attend two caucus meetings: one with White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough at 9 a.m. Tuesday and another on Wednesday…

House Democrats are likely to hear from McDonough and Pelosi that they need to support the president in his bid for intervention or risk compromising Obama’s efficacy on a number of issues.


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Looser!

Akzed on September 6, 2013 at 4:44 PM

But after the lie fest by dear reader on Tuesday anything can happen….

sandee on September 6, 2013 at 4:45 PM

House Democrats are likely to hear from McDonough and Pelosi that they need to support the president in his bid for intervention or risk compromising Obama’s efficacy on a number of issues.

Wag-the-Dog Caucus.

Really ??? Start a war to to support at home issues ??

Good Grief

Jabberwock on September 6, 2013 at 4:47 PM

McCain, Corker, and Flake could have killed it in Senate Committee. Never forget that.

kunegetikos on September 6, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Those eyes look demonic.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 4:48 PM

House Democrats are likely to hear from McDonough and Pelosi that they need to support the president in his bid for intervention or risk compromising Obama’s efficacy on a number of issues.

So Syrians (and possibly US sailors) must die in the name of efficacy and credibility? Got it. That’s one position that the Dems must really be eager to explain back home. Especially when the bodies start arriving at Dover AFB.

Happy Nomad on September 6, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Sorry Chief, you opened up your big, fat mouth. Now you’re looking for Congress to provide you with political cover. No thanks. Goodbye.

EA_MAN on September 6, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Ladies and gents, the biggest obama-azz-dweller has chimed in.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Those eyes look demonic.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Well…… you look what you are.

Happy Nomad on September 6, 2013 at 4:49 PM

House Democrats are likely to hear from McDonough and Pelosi that they need to support the president in his bid for intervention or risk compromising Obama’s efficacy on a number of issues.

Sorry, but that ain’t gonna work. Even the most partisan libtard is gonna have trouble supporting this. And it doesn’t matter if they’re in a safe blue district or state. They can still be primaried out of there by angry leftists. Just ask Joe Lieberman.

Doughboy on September 6, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Unless of course the House might not vote at all according to this top aid to House Republican leadership if the vote is certain to be a NO:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/357794/house-might-not-vote-obamas-syria-resolution-john-fund

mnjg on September 6, 2013 at 4:51 PM

How about this:

Title the bill “Military Support for the Syrian People” Bill.

Make it 5,000 pages long and include a bill to abolish the EPA, IRS, and full repeal of Obamacare, Dodd-Frank and Sarbanes Oxley, as well as tort reform and a balanced budget amendment.

Hell, just put Mark Levin’s new book somewhere between pages 1,200 and 1,400.

Almost forgot, define “military support” as a strongly worded letter to the NY Times editorial page.

Heh.

Rixon on September 6, 2013 at 4:52 PM

McCain, Corker, and Flake could have killed it in Senate Committee. Never forget that.

kunegetikos on September 6, 2013 at 4:48 PM

McCain and Flake are already off the reservation with their Gang of 8 shenanigans. At this point they’re all in on doing whatever the hell they please. The only recourse for us is to ensure their current term in the Senate is their last.

Doughboy on September 6, 2013 at 4:53 PM

In today’s presser the big jelly fish, in Armani, looked forlorn.

Beware a cornered narcissistic sociopathic snake.

Sunday might be the date, or Monday, so he can tell you about it on Tuesday.

Imagine being this oaf’s speech-writer and prompter.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 4:54 PM

What now on Iran? Obama is exposed as weak and indecisive on foreign entanglements, unable to persuade even his own political base of the need to attack some minor league country or other. What about attacking a major leaguer?

Iran will soon be nuclear armed, and is determined to use those weapons on America or Israel or both. Does Obama ever go back to the preemptive war-well after this mess? No, he won’t or at least he won’t until its way too late. We are in deep trouble now.

MTF on September 6, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Unless of course the House might not vote at all according to this top aid to House Republican leadership if the vote is certain to be a NO:

mnjg on September 6, 2013 at 4:51 PM

They need to vote. They need to be on the record. But most importantly they need to humilate the filthy rat-eared bastard. Rub it in his face the way he wants to kill people for credibility and efficacy and not any real national need.

The House should not be carrying water for Obama. Grind his precious credibility and efficacy into the ground, stomp on it, and relieve themselves on top of it for good measure.

Happy Nomad on September 6, 2013 at 4:56 PM

McCain, Corker, and Flake could have killed it in Senate Committee. Never forget that.

kunegetikos on September 6, 2013 at 4:48 PM

They only needed two of the three.

WisRich on September 6, 2013 at 4:58 PM

What now on Iran? Obama is exposed as weak and indecisive on foreign entanglements, unable to persuade even his own political base of the need to attack some minor league country or other. What about attacking a major leaguer?

Iran will soon be nuclear armed, and is determined to use those weapons on America or Israel or both. Does Obama ever go back to the preemptive war-well after this mess? No, he won’t or at least he won’t until its way too late. We are in deep trouble now.

MTF on September 6, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Iran will be greatly emboldened and so is every enemy of the USA…

mnjg on September 6, 2013 at 4:58 PM

They need to vote. They need to be on the record. But most importantly they need to humilate the filthy rat-eared bastard. Rub it in his face the way he wants to kill people for credibility and efficacy and not any real national need.

The House should not be carrying water for Obama. Grind his precious credibility and efficacy into the ground, stomp on it, and relieve themselves on top of it for good measure.

Happy Nomad on September 6, 2013 at 4:56 PM

The real reason to vote is not to humiliate and repudiate Obama. It’s so the House actually goes on record as voting no. That way if Obama decides to act unilaterally, he’s doing so officially without Congressional approval. Don’t let him off on a technicality.

Doughboy on September 6, 2013 at 4:59 PM

The turning point was Carmeron losing the vote in Parlament. That vote brought this house of cards down.

WisRich on September 6, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Time for a taxpayer funded vacay for Preezy McBombypants in Hawaii I guess…He can boogieboard away his troubles and tell himself this public humiliation was all just a bad dream…

workingclass artist on September 6, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Weepy Boner tees up the football – there’s no way the Charlie Brown/GOP can blow this!

Here they come!

Ready!

Set!

Where’d that football go?

Oof.

Bruno Strozek on September 6, 2013 at 5:00 PM

The real reason to vote is not to humiliate and repudiate Obama. It’s so the House actually goes on record as voting no. That way if Obama decides to act unilaterally, he’s doing so officially without Congressional approval. Don’t let him off on a technicality.

Doughboy on September 6, 2013 at 4:59 PM

This.

He’ll still have the Senate vote (I think) but he won’t be able to walk away so easily from the Peoples House.

WisRich on September 6, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Its a worrying factor. Between the frying pan and the fire, thats where we are. I don’t care a damn bout our Preezy. Our long term international interests matter a lot more than our present govt. Its a conundrum, alright.

tommy71 on September 6, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Those eyes look demonic.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 4:48 PM

That’s probably because they are the eyes of a demon.

Harbingeing on September 6, 2013 at 5:05 PM

How does Ed Schultz square this?

Conservative and liberal opposition is similar at 33/59 and 37/51, respectively.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 5:05 PM

The turning point was Carmeron losing the vote in Parlament. That vote brought this house of cards down.

WisRich on September 6, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Yeah, The filthy liar does stuff in groups. He found himself out in front by himself and has been figuring out how to slither back under the rock ever since.

Happy Nomad on September 6, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Hold the vote.

WisRich on September 6, 2013 at 5:06 PM

Typically when the REB finds himself in this position he starts writing Executive Orders. Wait for it…

slickwillie2001 on September 6, 2013 at 5:06 PM

So he tries to start a war to distract from his domestic policy failure, but he’s going to have to use his domestic policies to distract from his foreign policy disasters.

Flange on September 6, 2013 at 5:09 PM

Iran will be greatly emboldened and so is every enemy of the USA…

mnjg on September 6, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Too late. They’ve been emboldened since practically the beginning of Obama’s P-residency. It’s why the mid east is in flames and why we are at the crossroads now. Obama’s weakness and fecklessness invites aggression.

Harbingeing on September 6, 2013 at 5:09 PM

What the US soldiers would die for.

obama/McCain and all who are for this intervention, have their blood on their souls.

There is NO national interest in Syria and there are no good guys.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Too late. They’ve been emboldened since practically the beginning of Obama’s P-residency. It’s why the mid east is in flames and why we are at the crossroads now. Obama’s weakness and fecklessness invites aggression.

Harbingeing on September 6, 2013 at 5:09 PM

Then you have not see what real emboldening is… Just wait and see…

mnjg on September 6, 2013 at 5:12 PM

It honestly makes you wonder why Boehner et al got on board with this so early when it had NO CHANCE. Did he want to look impotent?

With an approaching election, what Democrat or Republican in their right minds would vote for this senseless, useless and dangerous war? It’s madness.

mitchellvii on September 6, 2013 at 5:12 PM

McCain and Flake are already off the reservation

Doughboy on September 6, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Add Corker! You already forgot Corker! Corker must go.

kunegetikos on September 6, 2013 at 5:12 PM

see = seen…

mnjg on September 6, 2013 at 5:14 PM

WisRich, you misspelled the Brits PM name. Not fair. You really don’t want the Brits to misspell Obamas name, do you? ;-)

tommy71 on September 6, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Meanwhile, according to numerous accounts, Assad is moving military assets into civilian areas and civilians into military areas, even as the Obama administration insists it makes no difference militarily to wait for Congress to debate. That’s not just stupid, it’s an outright lie that will be fact-checked with blood.

I understand the attraction the buddy system has for a man who, as a state legislator, perfected the art of voting “present” on hard questions. But it’s hard to see this as anything other than rank political cowardice.

The buck stopped with Truman. For Obama, the buck is kryptonite.

In Stockholm on Wednesday, the president said that the credibility of the world, America, Congress and the international community is on the line. Everybody is on the hook for his red line, except for the one person who actually drew it.

I’d love to see the genius in that argument, but it looks like clear-cut stupidity to me.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Elizabeth O’Bagy is drawing lots of scrutiny lately…the latest

http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/05/woman-informing-kerry-mccains-opinions-on-syria-also-an-advocate-for-syrian-rebels/

Serious journos would want to know more, which is why no one in the MSM will ask. There is a lot of petro-dollars in DC, lots of people bought by the Arabs.

she’s a small fish…but the question is why such an important ‘voice’. There are a lot of Rs that are unfit to lead

r keller on September 6, 2013 at 5:14 PM

The AMAZING part is that if it looks like Obama will lose badly, Boehner may cancel the vote completely so as to not make Obama “look bad”.

For all that is holy, PLEASE someone have the balls to make this idiot look bad.

mitchellvii on September 6, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Right now President Obama is thinking, “Over? Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? It’s not over until I say it’s over.”
And the lapdogs will cheer and a way will be found to make him look good even if it means rewriting history or a full scale invasion is launched.

LincolntheHun on September 6, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Read every word.

Except for the fact that the US is a constitutional republic, not a liberal democracy, it’s spot on.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Will he cancel his “historic” speech that he scheduled to take place during the NFL games next week on the day before 9/11? No?

/Damn

If I were advising this guy I’d tell him to get his azz back home and hide for the next couple of years. He’s toast. And no, I’m not racist.

Key West Reader on September 6, 2013 at 5:16 PM

It honestly makes you wonder why Boehner et al got on board with this so early when it had NO CHANCE.

mitchellvii on September 6, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Boehner wishes to go even further for Obama:

“I just don’t believe that if [Obama's] defeat is certain, the [Republican] House leadership will want to see [Obama] utterly humiliated [i.e., lose the vote] on the House floor in a public vote [so they will save Obama by not voting],” one top aide to the Republican leadership told me.

kunegetikos on September 6, 2013 at 5:17 PM

Wouldn’t it be nice if a real preference cascade brought out all of the info on all of the scandals and… then what?

MontanaMmmm on September 6, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Look I’m as hawkish as they come and I’d happily support Obama if he can give both a rational AND PLAUSIBLE reason for intervention.

Because “I say so” isn’t it!
Because “they’re doing bad things” isn’t it! (I see plenty f stores of Egyptians slaughtering Christians and haven’t heard a peep from Obama…)

This won’t fail because of teh evil racist congress…

It will fail as a direct response to the FAILURE of Obamas Presidency and his ability to do the one thing this action requires… LEAD.

Skywise on September 6, 2013 at 5:20 PM

What the US soldiers would die for.

obama/McCain and all who are for this intervention, have their blood on their souls.
There is NO national interest in Syria and there are no good guys.
Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 5:11 PM
If obama had a son, he would look like….

oceansidecon on September 6, 2013 at 5:20 PM

While I agree with the “no” vote

If is never a good day for the USA when the POTUS is slapped down

I am sad for my great nation – truly – I am sad

jake-the-goose on September 6, 2013 at 5:21 PM

The Brit PM is a conservative. And hes very slowly moving to the Right. And keep an eye on Australia. The current prog govt. is set to loose, big time. The Conservatives will form the next Govt. Just my international input. And the Brit PM is Cameron, not Carmeron. ;-)

tommy71 on September 6, 2013 at 5:21 PM

Any chance something “BIG” will happen in Syria between now and Tuesday ?

Just thinking.

Jabberwock on September 6, 2013 at 5:22 PM

Just 25 likely yeses

My Guy is a Twenty-Fiver!

Yippee!

Keith X Ellison!

Damn, I’m proud!

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/08/keith-ellison-for-dummies.php

Bruno Strozek on September 6, 2013 at 5:23 PM

If is never a good day for the USA when the POTUS is slapped down
I am sad for my great nation – truly – I am sad
jake-the-goose on September 6, 2013 at 5:21 PM

It is when he cares more for al Qaeda than 90 MILLION unemployed Americans.

oceansidecon on September 6, 2013 at 5:24 PM

This is for all of you warmongers, to a T.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 5:25 PM

One last note… Obama is educated and accredited from one of the best schools in the nation as a LAWYER.

As such, his most basic skill is to do one thing… Make the case for his client.

He can’t seem to do even that…

(Heck, for te sake of our country id be happy if he could just argue as unfrozen caveman lawyer did but he can’t even seem to pull that off…)

Skywise on September 6, 2013 at 5:25 PM

MeanWhile……………………………from the Cantor Ranch:

Tweets All / No replies

Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller 3m

On the House floor next week. http://majorityleader.gov/floor/weekly.html … Syria authorization vote maybe Wednesday.
View summary
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Weekly Legislative Schedule
September 6, 2013 Posted By: Tim Pataki

THE LEADER’S WEEKLY SCHEDULE
WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 9TH

http://majorityleader.gov/floor/weekly.html

http://majorityleader.gov/floor/9-9-13.pdf

canopfor on September 6, 2013 at 5:25 PM

It’s going to interesting to watch Obama’s reaction if congress votes against attacking Syria. He could go ahead with the attack but I don’t think he will because I don’t think he wants to. He put himself in a corner with the red line comment and I think he wants a way out. He will of course condemn republicans (ignoring all the democrats and liberals vehemently against an attack) and call the republicans heartless and uncaring and say they condone inhumanity and kill kittens and just about anything else. But if he gets voted down and chooses not to attack anyway, will he go to the UN and give a speech demanding the UN intervene? Will he demand action from them? Will he go to the EU and NATO? Will he have Kerry go to the Arab League and the United Arab Emirates and each individual country in the Middle East (not already in flames) and demand it is their moral responsibility to intervene? Will he demand that Russia move to the side of justice and peace? Will he bring all parties to the peace table? Will he relentlessly seek justice for those gassed and earn that Nobel Peace Prize he won after less than a year in office? Or will he just blame the republicans and go back to important stuff like gay marriage, gun control, voter ID laws, concussions in the NFL and that wicked hitch in his golf swing? I’ll put my money on the last. He will do nothing except greet every nasty development in the region for the rest of his presidency with statements blaming the republicans because they wouldn’t let him bomb the Syrian people for a week and he will be joined by every democrat and liberal who is currently against intervention.

peacenprosperity on September 6, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Elizabeth O’Bagy is drawing lots of scrutiny lately…the latest

http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/05/woman-informing-kerry-mccains-opinions-on-syria-also-an-advocate-for-syrian-rebels/

Serious journos would want to know more, which is why no one in the MSM will ask. There is a lot of petro-dollars in DC, lots of people bought by the Arabs.

she’s a small fish…but the question is why such an important ‘voice’. There are a lot of Rs that are unfit to lead

r keller on September 6, 2013 at 5:14 PM

We were all scammed. She was so photogenic, and sounded smart, and no one bothered to do any in-depth background checks. Who thought that a woman like that could be allied with islamists, right?

slickwillie2001 on September 6, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Suppose Obama attacks 1 day after the Tuesday speech. That would be on 9/11.

Rich H on September 6, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Those eyes look demonic.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 4:48 PM

They look kind of hollow and lifeless to me.

CurtZHP on September 6, 2013 at 5:30 PM

peacenprosperity on September 6, 2013 at 5:27 PM

You’re so spot on it’s down-right spooky.

Bruno Strozek on September 6, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Every member of the House of Representatives is up for re-election in 2014, with the Primary season beginning in March – just 6 months from now.

1/3 of the Senate is also up for re-election in 2014.

Here is the list of Senate seats that are up for re-election:

U.S. Senate seats that are up for re-election in 2014 (Class II) – 33http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm?Class=2

Republicans (13)

Lamar Alexander (R-TN)

Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) – Not running for re-election

Thad Cochran (R-MS)

Susan Collins (R-ME)

John Cornyn (R-TX)

Michael Enzi (R-WY) – Liz Cheney is challenging Enzi in the Republican Primary

Lindsey Graham (R-SC) – Richard Cash, Nancy Mace and Lee Bright are challenging Graham in the Republican Primary

James Inhofe (R-OK)

Mike Johanns (R-NE) – Not running for re-election

Mitch McConnell (R-KY) – Republican Matt Bevin challenging McConnell in Primary

James Risch (R-ID)

Pat Roberts (R-KS)

Jeff Sessions (R-AL)

Democrats (20)

Max Baucus (D-MT) – Not running for re-election

Mark Begich (D-AK) – Mead Treadwell and Joe Miller are running for the Republican nomination

Christopher Coons (D-DE)

Richard Durbin (D-IL)

Al Franken (D-MN) – Mike McFadden and Jim Abeler are running for the Republican nomination

Kay Hagan (D-NC) – Thom Tillis and Greg Brannon are running for the Republican nomination

Tom Harkin (D-IA) – Not running for re-election

Tim Johnson (D-SD) – Not running for re-election – Republicans Mike Rounds and Larry Rhoden are running for the Republican nomination

Mary Landrieu (D-LA) – Bill Cassidy is running for the Republican nomination

Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) – Deceased. Special election in October.

Carl Levin (D-MI) – Not running for re-election – Terri Lynn Land is running for the Republican nomination

Ed Markey (D-MA)

Jeff Merkley (D-OR)

Mark Pryor (D-AR) – Republican Rep. Tom Cotton running against Pryor

Jack Reed (D-RI)

John Rockefeller IV (D-WV) – Not running for re-election – Shelley Moore Capito is running for the Republican nomination

Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)

Mark Udall (D-CO)

Tom Udall (D-NM)

Mark Warner (D-VA)

These are the politicians who will have a lot of explain’n to do to their constituents if they vote in favor of military intervention in Syria.

Check the list and make sure your state has strong candidates ready to run against any candidate who supports bombing Syria.

Having to run against a strong opposition candidate in an upcoming election is the best way to remind a politician that they should listen carefully to the voters they represent.

wren on September 6, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Conservative and liberal opposition is similar at 33/59 and 37/51, respectively.
Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 5:05 PM

easily. lib oppo is understood and principled. con oppo is racist and they are hate-filled and spiteful.

t8stlikchkn on September 6, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Iran will be greatly emboldened and so is every enemy of the USA…

mnjg on September 6, 2013 at 4:58 PM

lol! They’ve all been emboldened since January of 2009, if not well before that.

F-

Del Dolemonte on September 6, 2013 at 5:41 PM

peacenprosperity on September 6, 2013 at 5:27 PM

the for pol version of the seuester startegy: if anything in the economy is “bad”, blame repubs and sequester. if anything good happens, ignore sequestor, pretrnd you never said seq was going to be deliterious and take credit. for pol version: after the no vote and his inaction, anything at all that goes wrong in the gwot is repubs fault and the no vote damaging the us and his credibility, and emboldening our enemies. anything good: hey, i got osama right? remember who you are talkin to.

t8stlikchkn on September 6, 2013 at 5:42 PM

From the Hypocrisy Department:

Bob Beckel, (on the Five), had some stern words for “the coward Republicans in the House” for not supporting the President. He actually “forgave” his anti-war liberal Democrat friends, because that’s just the way they are. But Beckel believes the Republicans are voting no solely because it’s a Democratic President in the White House—and specifically Barack Obama. In Beckel’s mind, every decision by House members is based on their “hatred” for Obama, not the fact that they might have convictions that tells them this is not right. Or, that their constituents are screaming from the top of their lungs that they will primary every congress-person that votes in favor of this strike.

Yet, later in the program, Beckel says, in a comment about the silent Hollywood left, “I’d keep my mouth shut too unless it was a Republican President” Really Bob? So this is political? The principle of stopping Assad from using gas on his own people is only relevant and principled under Obama?

Beckel also said “the polls are screwy” and doesn’t believe the 60% against, and as low as 25% in favor of a military strike.

Rovin on September 6, 2013 at 5:43 PM

peacenprosperity on September 6, 2013 at 5:27 PM

I agree, he want’s a way out. He just needs an excuse, any excuse to delay military action as well as a congressional vote but President “Smart Power” can’t seem to come up with one.

It’s not that hard.

Have the UN or third party delegation go to Syria and claim they having negoitiation on how to “secure” those chemcial weapons. have it last a couple of weeks, everything cools off, delgation comes with semi-binding agreement of “understanding”, everyone rejoices, and Barry goes back to playing golf.

WisRich on September 6, 2013 at 5:44 PM

One last note… Obama is educated and accredited from one of the best schools in the nation as a LAWYER.

Skywise on September 6, 2013 at 5:25 PM

prove it. seen a transcript?

t8stlikchkn on September 6, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Looser!

Akzed on September 6, 2013 at 4:44 PM

..with the greatest of respect and not to be a Grammar Nazi, if you are referring to President Red-Line, I think the word is LOSER. The other word, looser, refers to the state of the rat-eared bastage’s bowels when he gets slammed by Congress.

The War Planner on September 6, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Salty tears from America’s Obama youth.

http://jessicanomie.wordpress.com/2013/08/29/dear-mr-president/

MontanaMmmm on September 6, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Continue melting the modems and phone lines until they hear us! Get busy! No let up!

Bmore on September 6, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Looser!

Akzed on September 6, 2013 at 4:44 PM

********

You mean, his shoes need to be looser?

Earl Butz got into a lotta trouble over that one.

fulldroolcup on September 6, 2013 at 5:48 PM

184 reps still quietly undecided

The 184: “Hmmm, how to vote on this…..what are my chances of being re-elected and what delightful goodies might I be tempted with to chose the “right” way to vote. With what can I be blackmailed to support Bammy, those darned Facebook pics, steamy email? Will my family member have concidental “accidents”? What mode of arm-twisting will be done on me, and will it really hurt?”

Decisions, decisions.

hawkeye54 on September 6, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Salty tears from America’s Obama youth.

http://jessicanomie.wordpress.com/2013/08/29/dear-mr-president/

MontanaMmmm on September 6, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Sounds like it c/b HA’s Politricks.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 5:57 PM

You mean, his shoes need to be looser?

Earl Butz got into a lotta trouble over that one.

fulldroolcup on September 6, 2013 at 5:48 PM

..I think he means that the bathrooms in the WH need to be heated in the Winter.

The War Planner on September 6, 2013 at 5:58 PM

One last note… Obama is educated and accredited from one of the best schools in the nation as a LAWYER.

Skywise on September 6, 2013 at 5:25 PM

No, he is not a lawyer, he is not in a member of any Bar Association in the US, so, you lie!! Oh, and before you go there, neither he is a Professor, never has been, never will be, he does not have a PhD, so he can’t be more than a TA in any academic institution in the US. Just a reminder for dupes like you, he was just a pathetic lecturer when he dabbled in academic endeavours (much like our ‘esteemed’ Perfesser here, at HA) before ultimately finding his vocation as a community organizer. And now he might be the pathetic loser that drags the world into WWIII. Enjoy!!!

jimver on September 6, 2013 at 5:58 PM

fulldroolcup on September 6, 2013 at 5:48 PM

..he can’t be talking about Mooch-elle, can he?

The War Planner on September 6, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Have the UN or third party delegation go to Syria and claim they having negoitiation on how to “secure” those chemcial weapons. have it last a couple of weeks, everything cools off, delgation comes with semi-binding agreement of “understanding”, everyone rejoices, and Barry goes back to playing golf.

WisRich on September 6, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Yep, seems like the most sane and rational thing to do under the circumstances…if only we had an adult in the WH?..

jimver on September 6, 2013 at 6:05 PM

elosi sent yet another “Dear Colleague” letter Friday to her Democratic cohorts urging them to attend two caucus meetings

Urging?

Wow.

So much for this being on her radar… with supporters like her, who needs detractors?

ajacksonian on September 6, 2013 at 6:12 PM

It would be time to get rid of Boehner if the Senate votes yes and then the House doesn’t vote because they don’t have the votes. That would make me so angry that I would fight Boehner moving forward as speaker.

KMav on September 6, 2013 at 6:18 PM

King Barry has no credibility. He’s never demonstrated any competence. Who would follow this idiot into a conflict?

GarandFan on September 6, 2013 at 6:22 PM

David Cameron, British PM, lost the vote in Commons by 13 last week. One of the key’s to the loss was Cameron’s inability to answer key and critical questions posed by his own Conservative backbenchers on the mission – the strategic goals, the risks, the contingencies, and how he was addressing the worrisome statements by Barack Obama that the mission was ‘symbolic’, ‘a shot across their bows’, not intended to change the regime, ‘limited’, ‘not decisive’ and where doing anything militarily in that manner was in the national interests of the UK.

I don’t think that Obama is even going to get within 13 in the House – I suspect that the trend we are seeing, with over 300 voting against, has legs and will not change dramatically despite arm twisting by the leaders of both parties unless the President can cogently answer those same questions here in his national address on Tuesday.

Working against the President is his track record – which is not one of real successes despite what the sycophantic media tells us. When even the low information voters are wondering about the Left’s hypocrisy compared to their positions when Dubya was in office – you are starting in a nearly untenable position….well, if one’s arrogance, hubris, and narcissism allowed one to see that one was in a nearly untenable position.

Athos on September 6, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Time for a taxpayer funded vacay for Preezy McBombypants in Hawaii I guess…He can boogieboard away his troubles and tell himself this public humiliation was all just a bad dream…
workingclass artist on September 6, 2013 at 4:59 PM

He could, but won’t. There’s tiger sharks in them waters. Just saying. Plus it would require some emoticon of physical skill to swim out in mommy shorts to catch the waves like at waimea. Would be funny to see him take off too late and get smashed and churned.

No, he’ll satisfy himself with annoying the servicemen and women as well as tourists and residents with traffic disruptions for his daily commute to the links.

AH_C on September 6, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Skywise on September 6, 2013 at 5:25 PM

You assume he actually attended classes and learned something.

chemman on September 6, 2013 at 6:41 PM

We were all scammed. She was so photogenic, and sounded smart, and no one bothered to do any in-depth background checks. Who thought that a woman like that could be allied with islamists, right?
slickwillie2001 on September 6, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Lolz. I found it less than serious when one of the classmates did a thesis on Lesbanon and another did a thesis on the gay life in Egypt or some nonsuch. That whole class wazzup nothing but womyn and fruitloops sex deviancy masquerading as Arab studies.

AH_C on September 6, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Is Dana Bash married to Jay Carney or is that some other talking head?

vityas on September 6, 2013 at 6:51 PM

Those eyes look demonic.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 4:48 PM

…they…. are!

KOOLAID2 on September 6, 2013 at 7:13 PM

Apparently Obama’s war is shared responsibility with Congress

According to axlerod

cmsinaz on September 6, 2013 at 7:13 PM

No, he is not a lawyer, he is not in a member of any Bar Association in the US, so, you lie!!
jimver on September 6, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Ok ok … He studied constitutional LAW… You’d think arguing a case would at least e part of the Baccalaureate program!

(But otherwise, yes I’m being completely facetious!)

Skywise on September 6, 2013 at 7:20 PM

(But otherwise, yes I’m being completely facetious!)

Skywise on September 6, 2013 at 7:20 PM

I realized that after I read your whole post :)..the first time I only saw that line about him being a lawyer quoted in smb else’s post :)…ah, we are all victims of superficiality at times :)…apologies anyways…

jimver on September 6, 2013 at 7:33 PM

Then you have not see what real emboldening is… Just wait and see…

mnjg on September 6, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Clueless, our enemies learned the last lesson they needed in April, mkay?

They already knew everything else about the OhMyMe Emperor Zero.

dogsoldier on September 6, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Democrats: Victims of Their Own Success

41 reasons.

Resist We Much on September 6, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Make that 42.

Resist We Much on September 6, 2013 at 8:13 PM

Obama to hold hissy fit press conference in 3….2….1

neyney on September 6, 2013 at 8:18 PM

How about this:

Title the bill “Military Support for the Syrian People” Bill.

Make it 5,000 pages long and include a bill to abolish the EPA, IRS, and full repeal of Obamacare, Dodd-Frank and Sarbanes Oxley, as well as tort reform and a balanced budget amendment.

Hell, just put Mark Levin’s new book somewhere between pages 1,200 and 1,400.

Almost forgot, define “military support” as a strongly worded letter to the NY Times editorial page.

Heh.

Rixon on September 6, 2013 at 4:52 PM

I would like to subscribe to your monthly newsletter.

GardenGnome on September 6, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Those eyes look demonic.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Yes. Yes they do.

Of course, someone says it’s because he’s been replaced by a Jinn*.

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*from Pantheon.org: “In Arabian and Muslim folklore jinns are ugly and evil demons having supernatural powers which they can bestow on persons having powers to call them up.”

bofh on September 6, 2013 at 10:24 PM