More McCain: If Obama puts boots on the ground in Syria, we’ll impeach him

posted at 4:01 pm on September 6, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via the Corner, two Maverick posts in the span of a few hours is a lot to force on you but this can’t pass without comment. Skip to 2:00 for the key bit. If U.S. involvement in Syria reached the point where O was willing to risk the political fallout from putting troops in the field, does anyone — anyone — doubt that McCain and his sidekick Lindsey would be Obama’s most stalwart, outspoken defenders in Congress? To undermine the commander-in-chief at a moment of military crisis, when there are soldiers in harm’s way, by moving to impeach would be treated by superhawks as borderline sedition. If anything, McCain would end up supporting the impeachment of would-be impeachers. The fact that he’s running around saying stuff like this when even a casual observer of congressional foreign policy debates knows the truth shows that we’re in the kitchen-sink phase of the big Syria push, where the most hawkish members are willing to play quasi-dove in the name of getting the big intervention off the ground. That’s the key — just get something passed and then, as we know from the 2001 AUMF against Al Qaeda, the president can use it to gradually expand his warmaking powers after the fight has begun. The punchline is that it’s McCain (of course) who’s pressed harder to expand the scope of the authorizing resolution that’s circulating in the Senate than anyone else. He was prepared to vote no until the Foreign Relations Committee added his amendment specifying that an attack wouldn’t aim simply to punish Assad but to change the momentum on the battlefield in the rebels’ favor. He wants America to do more. And now here he is pretending that if Obama did a lot more, he’d be outraged.

To repeat a question from last night’s Kerry post, what exactly is the goal of the mission at this point? Is it a narrow attack on Assad’s WMD henchmen or is it something broader along McCain’s lines of turning the tide of war against the regime? One of Obama’s national security aides said this morning that it’s the former, but go back and watch that Kerry clip from last night. Or re-read Ed’s post from this morning about the steadily growing target list. (Military sources tell Fox News that they’ve been asked to change their plans no less than 50 times since the first instructions about a “limited” strike came down.) The rebels themselves are expecting a ferocious hit on the regime which they can capitalize on to “finish them off.” And of course all of this is designed by the White House to shore up the support of McCainian hawks whose big concern, like Maverick’s, is not that a Syria strike might do too much but too little. If you’re going to intervene, they reason, make sure it achieves something valuable. And yet here’s McCain telling an Arizona radio host that if Obama went all in to really achieve something, he’d be indignant to the point of impeachment. Right.

Your homework is to read this morning’s op-ed by retired Gen. Robert Scales, who surveyed a bunch of colleagues in the military to see how they’re feeling about a new war. Exit quotation: “They are embarrassed to be associated with the amateurism of the Obama administration’s attempts to craft a plan that makes strategic sense.”


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Liar…

PatriotRider on September 6, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Says obama’s hemorrhoid.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 4:06 PM

He was prepared to vote no until the Foreign Relations Committee added his amendment specifying that an attack wouldn’t aim simply to punish Assad but to change the momentum on the battlefield in the rebels’ favor.

If we don’t do everything in our power to make certain Al Qaeda gets control of Syria and their ability to manufacture Chemical WMDs then the terrorists have won…

Can someone discreetly check on McCain’s meds? I think they got swapped with something else.

gekkobear on September 6, 2013 at 4:06 PM

. And yet here’s McCain telling an Arizona radio host that if Obama went all in to really achieve something, he’d be indignant to the point of impeachment. Right.

And he was gonna make sure that fence along the border got built to.

Wake up Arizona.

WisRich on September 6, 2013 at 4:07 PM

I am not in favor of any strike on Syria, but one thing to remember, McCain was directly and personally involved in Vietnam, and he remembers the Government pretty much bailing out when we were close to winning because of public pressure. Just sayin……

Johnnyreb on September 6, 2013 at 4:08 PM

We are better off per Syria with Obama as President we would have been with McCain.

McCain’s that bad.

kunegetikos on September 6, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Like I said in the previous thread the dog eater is going to get us all killed…

PatriotRider on September 6, 2013 at 4:10 PM

To repeat a question from last night’s Kerry post, what exactly is the goal of the mission at this point?

Light the fuse! – John McCain

Is it a narrow attack on Assad’s WMD henchmen or is it something broader along McCain’s lines of turning the tide of war against the regime?

Yeah, whatever. Light the fuse! – John McCain

A yes vote will mean whatever they later want it to mean.

sharrukin on September 6, 2013 at 4:11 PM

when we were close to winning……

Johnnyreb on September 6, 2013 at 4:08 PM

You must be joking…

PatriotRider on September 6, 2013 at 4:12 PM

McCain: If Obama puts boots on the ground in Syria, we’ll impeach him

No. You will not.

coldwarrior on September 6, 2013 at 4:12 PM

A top aide for House Republican leadership said that the House might not vote on the Syria strikes resolution according to John Fund at the National Review:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/357794/house-might-not-vote-obamas-syria-resolution-john-fund

That is what happened in 1999 during the strikes against Serbia… First the Senate voted yes on the strikes and the next day the strikes began… The House did not vote until a month later and it did not pass the House…

mnjg on September 6, 2013 at 4:12 PM

After yesterday’s town halls McInsane thinks he can say something cleverly stupid and all will be right with the world.

NotCoach on September 6, 2013 at 4:13 PM

Thank you for the homework assignment

They are embarrassed to be associated with the amateurism of the Obama administration’s attempts to craft a plan that makes strategic sense. None of the White House staff has any experience in war or understands it. So far, at least, this path to war violates every principle of war, including the element of surprise, achieving mass and having a clearly defined and obtainable objective.

They are repelled by the hypocrisy of a media blitz that warns against the return of Hitlerism but privately acknowledges that the motive for risking American lives is our “responsibility to protect” the world’s innocents. Prospective U.S. action in Syria is not about threats to American security. The U.S. military’s civilian masters privately are proud that they are motivated by guilt over slaughters in Rwanda, Sudan and Kosovo and not by any systemic threat to our country.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 4:13 PM

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh that’s rich, Johnny. You jokers couldn’t get to a majority on an actual crime with a “Pubbie” majority, and you expect to get to 67 on a political matter while in the minority?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Steve Eggleston on September 6, 2013 at 4:14 PM

You must be joking…

PatriotRider on September 6, 2013 at 4:12 PM

No I am not.

Johnnyreb on September 6, 2013 at 4:14 PM

And by the word ‘Impeach’ he means give him a big ‘Ol sloppy kiss… in private of course..

Galt2009 on September 6, 2013 at 4:15 PM

They are outraged by the fact that what may happen is an act of war and a willingness to risk American lives to make up for a slip of the tongue about “red lines.” These acts would be for retribution and to restore the reputation of a president. Our serving professionals make the point that killing more Syrians won’t deter Iranian resolve to confront us. The Iranians have already gotten the message.

Our people lament our loneliness. Our senior soldiers take pride in their past commitments to fight alongside allies and within coalitions that shared our strategic goals. This war, however, will be ours alone.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 4:15 PM

No I am not.

Johnnyreb on September 6, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Wow…I lived thru it, and I can tell you first hand there was no “W” in sight…

PatriotRider on September 6, 2013 at 4:16 PM

Our military members understand and take seriously their oath to defend the constitutional authority of their civilian masters. They understand that the United States is the only liberal democracy that has never been ruled by its military. But today’s soldiers know war and resent civilian policymakers who want the military to fight a war that neither they nor their loved ones will experience firsthand.

The US is a constitutional republic.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 4:16 PM

McCain, as disingenuous, semi-schizophrenic, and reflexively belligerent as ever.

Free Market vs. “obscene profits”
Offshore drilling vs ANWR
Lower gas prices vs Carbon Credits
“Learned his lesson on immigration reform” vs “I love McCain-Kennedy and will put it right back on track”
Borders first vs Screw the border
National security vs Z visas for drug gang members
Strong on WOT vs Anti-Guantanamo
Patriotic stances vs Speaking to and thus legitimizaing La Raza – a seditious, antisemitic and racist organization that wants to forcibly kick non-hispanic men, women and children out of the Southwestern states
I’m a real conservative vs I hate real conservatives
I want conservative justices vs “But not Scalia or Thomas”
McCain-Feingold, McCain-Lieberman, McCain-Kennedy, opposed tax cuts, hates Christians, attacks American companies, favors global warming tax, cap and trade, YES AMNESTY, favors an assault weapons ban, said he would appoint justices like O’Connor, has admitted some pro choice positions, voted pro-gay-marriage against the Federal Marriage Amendment, led the Gang of 14, and wasted the Senate’s time whining about waterboarding.

And now, he gets caught playing video poker during national security hearings, and mumbles about impeaching the president.

Excelsior!

RushBaby on September 6, 2013 at 4:17 PM

You must be joking…

PatriotRider on September 6, 2013 at 4:12 PM

No I am not.

Johnnyreb on September 6, 2013 at 4:14 PM

The NVA was spent and the Viet Cong ceased to exist as a force after Tet.

Steve Eggleston on September 6, 2013 at 4:17 PM

mnjg on September 6, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Except that Clinton never asked for a vote because he knew he wouldn’t win approval. He was determined to go ahead regardless. Congress acted on its own in 1999. So really, alike in a not alike in any way at all way.

NotCoach on September 6, 2013 at 4:18 PM

I think McCain realizes his playing poker during the hearings helped Obama about as much as throwing him an anchor after he fell out of the boat.

Marcus on September 6, 2013 at 4:18 PM

What has this man done in his political career that would make ANYONE think that there was the SLIGHTEST shred of veracity to that statement?

a5minmajor on September 6, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Of course, I’m not saying LBJ’s Army was in any position to take advantage of the situation.

Steve Eggleston on September 6, 2013 at 4:19 PM

More McCain: If Obama puts boots on the ground in Syria, we’ll impeach him bomb him

Seems more like something Juan would say.

Flange on September 6, 2013 at 4:21 PM

All the more reason for term limits.

Jocundus on September 6, 2013 at 4:23 PM

This gets worse and worse.

McCain, please leave. Retire. Go away.

MTF on September 6, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Why wait?

Obama’s already lied about Libya, spied on his opponents. Misused the IRS. Do it, before he starts a war…

No, really McCain.

Sharr on September 6, 2013 at 4:25 PM

WTF is wrong with Arizona? It must be all those illegals voting without I.D.’s!

Tbone McGraw on September 6, 2013 at 4:25 PM

duct tape….. and the WH looks like a circus tent.

MontanaMmmm on September 6, 2013 at 4:26 PM

BTW, Senators can’t impeach a ham sandwich, let alone the president.

NotCoach on September 6, 2013 at 4:27 PM

Except that Clinton never asked for a vote because he knew he wouldn’t win approval. He was determined to go ahead regardless. Congress acted on its own in 1999. So really, alike in a not alike in any way at all way.

NotCoach on September 6, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Did the House reject Clinton over Kosovo?

During his second term as president, Clinton pressed Congress to authorize NATO military action in Kosovo.

On March 23, 1999, the Senate, by a 58-41 vote, passed a non-binding authorization of force. The Senate resolution backed “military air operations and missile strikes in cooperation with our NATO allies against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro).”

That’s short of a declaration of war — the method outlined in the Constitution — but it is similar to what other presidents have sought, and usually received, from Congress in recent decades when they wish to pursue military efforts abroad. (In this article, we take a closer look at the differences between post-World War II declarations of war and authorizations for the use of military force.)

The day after the Senate passed this resolution, NATO bombing commenced. But the House of Representatives did not vote on the Senate-passed resolution until more than a month later.

On April 28, 1999, the House took up several pieces of legislation on Kosovo. By a 249-180 vote, the House prevented any Defense Department funds from being used on a ground campaign. Meanwhile, by a 139-290 vote, the House defeated an effort to remove U.S. armed forces from the Kosovo conflict. A more traditional declaration of war failed by an even larger margin — 2 votes for, 427 against.

But the most important legislation — and the one directly relevant to judging King’s claim — was the Senate resolution that authorized air and missile strikes against the Serbs. It failed the House in a rare tie vote, 213-213.

The vote was a stinging rebuke to Clinton, and an embarrassment to House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., who backed a president from the opposite party. The defections were mixed — 31 Republicans supported Clinton’s request while 26 Democrats voted against it.

mnjg on September 6, 2013 at 4:27 PM

Words, words, words, that’s all McCain is good for because there is no good actions behind those empty words. Who does that remind you of?

Pardonme on September 6, 2013 at 4:27 PM

The NVA was spent and the Viet Cong ceased to exist as a force after Tet.

Steve Eggleston on September 6, 2013 at 4:17 PM

And if we would have kept up the bombing of Hanoi and even expanded it. We pretty much just quit.

Johnnyreb on September 6, 2013 at 4:28 PM

I am not in favor of any strike on Syria, but one thing to remember, McCain was directly and personally involved in Vietnam, and he remembers the Government pretty much bailing out when we were close to winning because of public pressure. Just sayin……

Johnnyreb on September 6, 2013 at 4:08 PM

I would have said “when the Vietnam War had been won”.

South Vietnam and the USA had won the war when the democratic congress voted to cut off all materiel assistance to the victorious South.

They just couldn’t stand the fact that a Republican president had won the war.

slickwillie2001 on September 6, 2013 at 4:29 PM

Except that Clinton never asked for a vote because he knew he wouldn’t win approval. He was determined to go ahead regardless. Congress acted on its own in 1999. So really, alike in a not alike in any way at all way.

NotCoach on September 6, 2013 at 4:18 PM

I think he did according to this article:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/sep/04/peter-king/rep-peter-king-says-bill-clinton-continued-kosovo-/

mnjg on September 6, 2013 at 4:30 PM

You know what everyone missed about “Maverick” in Top Gun?

After his ego killed his REO, he then has a chat with the widow and tells her how awful his life will be and could she please say something comforting to help get him through the board of inquiry so he can get back in the front seat and jet around with his hair on fire?

Top shelf, Grade A, Asshole.

BobMbx on September 6, 2013 at 4:30 PM

Someone tell the senile old coot he is a Senator and that the Senate cannot impeach a President.

So who is this “we” he is talking about?

Does he think he runs the GOP? Someone tell him that being a (losing) candidate for President 5 years ago does not count.

farsighted on September 6, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Kosovo is not Syria, not in the micro-, nor in the macrocosm.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 4:36 PM

The vote was a stinging rebuke to Clinton, and an embarrassment to House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., who backed a president from the opposite party. The defections were mixed — 31 Republicans supported Clinton’s request while 26 Democrats voted against it.

mnjg on September 6, 2013 at 4:27 PM

At least Clinton had NATO on his side. Dear Leader’s only allies on Syria are Al Qaeda, France, and Israel.

oceansidecon on September 6, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Impeachment Red Line, eh, Maverick?

The GOP Ruling Class is so pathetic….

Bruno Strozek on September 6, 2013 at 4:37 PM

So now McCain has drawn his own Red Line? And when it’s crossed he’ll follow through? Oh, this is rich…….

SailorMark on September 6, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Senator McCain should recognize it is time for him to sit down and be quiet. This is Obama’s situation to deal with. Let Obama make his own case. Vote to support Obama if he feels it best, but stop this embarrassing display.

If the President decides to attack Syria and some bomber pilot is shot down by a Russian anti-aircraft system, would Sen. McCain really move to impeach Obama for sending troops in on the ground to try to extract the pilot? I think not. Besides, the House impeaches…the Senate only acts as jury.

Jill1066 on September 6, 2013 at 4:39 PM

Obama was beaten at the Senate Committee level until McCain, Corky the pig, and Flake betrayed the GOP.

Every difficulty beyond that vote is on those three.

kunegetikos on September 6, 2013 at 4:39 PM

mnjg on September 6, 2013 at 4:27 PM

Clinton never asked for approval. Never!

He told Congress, “Hey, this is what I’m doing.” The Senate acted to cover his a$$ politically on their own.

NotCoach on September 6, 2013 at 4:42 PM

:)

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 4:42 PM

And if we would have kept up the bombing of Hanoi and even expanded it. We pretty much just quit.

Johnnyreb on September 6, 2013 at 4:28 PM

You see, Nixon figured out that the government of South Vietnam just wasn’t worth fighting for anymore. On top of that, the South Vietnamese also thought the government wasn’t worth dying for.

There was no longer a reason to fight. So we didn’t quit the war. The war quit us.

BobMbx on September 6, 2013 at 4:43 PM

redrum redrum.

MontanaMmmm on September 6, 2013 at 4:44 PM

To repeat a question from last night’s Kerry post, what exactly is the goal of the mission at this point?

Whose goal? Comrade O’s? JF’n Kerry’s? McLame’s?

I bet they are all different.

Comrade O’s only goal is to save face after opening his big mouth about red lines.

McLame wants to bomb the crap out of Assad and arm al Qaeda sympathizers in Syria. It might be worth it if we could get him to take a Slim Pickens bomb ride à la Doctor Strangelove on the first day and then call the rest of the bombing off.

JF’n Kerry, who actually wanted to be SoD, and so is trying to play one now, is probably somewhere in between. Besides that, he loves the French and they are all in on this one. After being dragged into the war against Saddam in 1991 kicking and screaming. And after stabbing us in the back in 2003. Anyone else wondering why the French think Assad is worth going to war over but Saddam wasn’t?

farsighted on September 6, 2013 at 4:45 PM

The big-mouth Euros should have taken care of Kosovo. It’s in their back yard…alas, they are always peace-doves and big talkers (mostly against the US), even though the US spends blood and treasure.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 4:47 PM

If that would truly happen, I would be praying for “on the ground” involvement. But it won’t. He wouldn’t have the intestinal fortitude, even if you could square it with his eagerness for a more robust strike.

GWB on September 6, 2013 at 4:49 PM

[Gen. Scales' military colleagues]are embarrassed to be associated with the amateurism of the Obama administration’s attempts to craft a plan that makes strategic sense.

Dear Members of Congress: You go to war (or not) with the CiC you have. Here’s hoping that figures prominently in your vote.

Barnestormer on September 6, 2013 at 4:57 PM

To repeat a question from last night’s Kerry post, what exactly is the goal of the mission at this point?

Create a massive distraction from Obamacare. It appears to be working.

rrpjr on September 6, 2013 at 5:01 PM

To repeat a question from last night’s Kerry post, what exactly is the goal of the mission at this point?

Light the fuse! – John McCain

Is it a narrow attack on Assad’s WMD henchmen or is it something broader along McCain’s lines of turning the tide of war against the regime?

Yeah, whatever. Light the fuse! – John McCain

A yes vote will mean whatever they later want it to mean.

sharrukin on September 6, 2013 at 4:11 PM

If we acknowledge that there is a mission we have already lost the political battle.

slickwillie2001 on September 6, 2013 at 5:07 PM

And if it turns out you’re lying, can we impeach you?

Dunedainn on September 6, 2013 at 5:07 PM

McCain has the same problem that Obysmal has.
Both have huge egos, and both shoot off their mouths with absolutely no discretion.

Let those two play in their own sandbox or in a bathtub together sinking ships.

onlineanalyst on September 6, 2013 at 5:08 PM

This has been a week full of stupid. Either destroy the regime and seize their chemical weapons or let Allah sort it out.

jawkneemusic on September 6, 2013 at 5:09 PM

“That’s bold talk from a one-eyed fat man….”

Tenwheeler on September 6, 2013 at 5:10 PM

i think they should pass the AUMF to find out whats in it.

t8stlikchkn on September 6, 2013 at 5:13 PM

Sen. McCain says in town hall

he will ‘lie down in front of Pennsylvania avenue’

if there are boots on the ground in Syria – @johnson

1 hour ago by editor
=========================

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/syria-uprising

canopfor on September 6, 2013 at 5:15 PM

Obama plans to regain his street cred by staging the largest drive by shooting in the history of Chicago bad boys.

BL@KBIRD on September 6, 2013 at 5:16 PM

This has been a week full of stupid. Either destroy the regime and seize their chemical weapons or let Allah sort it out.

jawkneemusic on September 6, 2013 at 5:09 PM

we had a chance to vote him out 9 months ago and we….oh you mean syria. crap. i was with you there for a minute.

t8stlikchkn on September 6, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Bringing up impeachment charges against The One = GOP’s gift to the Dimocrats and Obama. Bad idea.

Old Fritz on September 6, 2013 at 5:18 PM

The big-mouth Euros should have taken care of Kosovo. It’s in their back yard…alas, they are always peace-doves and big talkers (mostly against the US), even though the US spends blood and treasure.

Schadenfreude on September 6, 2013 at 4:47 PM

The US has been their de facto defense organization for seventy years. That’s why they’ve been able to afford socialism all this time. It takes longer to run out of other people’s money when you don’t have to provide for your own national defense.

Kafir on September 6, 2013 at 5:20 PM

The NVA was spent and the Viet Cong ceased to exist as a force after Tet.

Steve Eggleston on September 6, 2013 at 4:17 PM

marvin the arvn wasnt exactly going to hold up his end of the bargain no matter how much we bombed hanoi back to the stoneage. we could kill all the commies, sure, we just couldnt get our “friends” to fight for themselves. in the long run, losing porp man.

t8stlikchkn on September 6, 2013 at 5:20 PM

‘member when everyone got their panties in a twist when Beck claimed McCain would have been a worse president than Obama? True, true – in retrospect it may still be an overstatement when compared against “that one”, but seriously I can’t imagine a second worse choice.

2008 will go down in American history as the year of “damned to hell either way.”

The only upside to McCain winning was that maybe HE would have been impeached, and Matt Damon would be buying new pants every day.

somewhatconcerned on September 6, 2013 at 5:22 PM

Wow…I lived thru it, and I can tell you first hand there was no “W” in sight…
PatriotRider on September 6, 2013 at 4:16 PM

Reading your back and forth and the general topic reminds me of a particular F105, Thuds, mounted at McGhee-Tyson in TN. It belonged to a wing commander and fighter ace that actually tried to win the war–iirc Col Rocky Anderson, there’s a autobiography or some such which I also read but so long ago. But because he broke the stupid ROE he was forced out. For crossing the river to finish off some MIGs.

Our guys are capable of beating anything with one arm tied behind their back (adhering to norms of honor and fairness. But having their legs tied by malfeaseant politicians and it’s no wonder we continue to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. This has happened every time since MacArthur was fired by Truman. And it’ll happen again here with Syria. At least Nam had a nascent functioning govt, unlike Libya, Egypt and now Syria with no good alternative to the current regimes.

Speaking of which, where were we when hizbollah assassinated a democratic secularist pm in Lebanon a few years ago? Or when Dubya allowed elections to be rammed thru leading to hamas winning. He was a GOPe, true. But he was also a compassionate conservative which is just another word for progressive.

So yes we could have won Vietnam but LBJ had already fated it to be lost due to ego. Progressivism is a disease on the human race and responsible for millions upon millions of lives thrown away.

AH_C on September 6, 2013 at 5:23 PM

More McCain: If Obama puts boots on the ground in Syria, we’ll impeach him

Says SENATOR McCain.

John you old fool, the House does the impeaching, you’ll have nothing to say about it.

RJL on September 6, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Gen. Scales’ military colleagues]are embarrassed to be associated with the amateurism of the Obama administration’s attempts to craft a plan that makes strategic sense.

welcome aboard “military collegues”. we’ve been on this cruise here for about 5 years. we’ve been embarrased about everything potus dunsel has done re: just about everything. and that coin strategy on afpak?? this isn’t REALLY the first time you’ve been embarrased by him, come on.

t8stlikchkn on September 6, 2013 at 5:25 PM

You know, let’s just do it. Go in and bomb the holy hell out of Assad’s whole infrastructure. I mean everything. Level it. Tell the Russians to move out of the way or their sailors can kiss their asses goodbye. Make certain that the rebels understand that if we sniff Al Qaeda’s scent in the aftermath that they will suffer the same consequences. And while we’re at it, lob a few cruise missiles over to Iran’s facilities just to show ‘em what will happen if they decide to attack us in retribution. Go all in without warning and without apology. Of course, President Community Organizer would have to grow a spine, but what the hey! Show the world, including the Russians, what American military force REALLY looks like. Of course, it will never happen with the spineless libtards in charge.

HiJack on September 6, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Nobody believes that McCain would do anything but lick Obama’s boots if we actually put troops in Syria. McCain got a good tongue lashing at his last town hall meeting, but he has no interest in listening to his constituents. McCain and Obama are cut from the same cloth; their own self-interests come before anything or anyone else.

And before anybody jumps on me for insulting a former POW and a veteran, I’m going to humble/humilate myself and tell you that I did vote for him in 2008.

justjulie20 on September 6, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Clinton was impeached also. Maybe McLame can explain what good impeaching him would do if he remained in office because the dems in the senate will never vote to convict and remove him no matter what.

bgibbs1000 on September 6, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Am I the only one who worn out sick and tired of one manufactured crisis after another? Yeah I know, never let a good crisis go to waste. Well how about never let a chance to manufacture a crisis get wasted? It seems it’s been that away for a long time.

bgibbs1000 on September 6, 2013 at 6:00 PM

You know . . . Look, I know McCain crashed some airplanes and went right back into another airplane. Also, I know he was tortured and went on to become a leader in the federal government. All this and more speaks to a certain strength of will. And I wouldn’t take that away from him or anyone else.

But whoever told these guys that being a man required you to occasionally grab your crotch and say something butch — lied. Being “manly” rarely requires you to say, at any point, “well, you do that, I’m going to kick your ass.” Maybe once, twice, for some men in dire straits. Double that if you have a daughter. And that’s all this stupid statement is. It’s swaggering. It wouldn’t be so bad if we weren’t already swaggering our way into a war with Syria.

Screw it. Just cut John “Bang Bang” McCain a wad o tobaccy and let him stand in front of the saloon with B. Husein “Magic Man” Obama and work it out, along with the rest of them.

“Well. I might have to kick yer ass.”
“Well. I’d lak to see you try that. Why not kick Syria’s ass — or are they to quick fer ya?”
“Well, no. I can kick Syria’s ass too. You and Syria.”
“Well, I’d lak to see you try that.”

Axe on September 6, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Watch that lying liar tell a huge lie. My vote for McCain in 2008 will be a regret I take to my grave. All the “lesser of two evils” crowd should commit seppuku.

DFCtomm on September 6, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Does a shotdown airman count?

That would be two boots on the ground, after all. One plane down, impeach… and have the articles premade with the help of the House and attached to the bill along with the Senate’s agreement to remove from office on it during the hearing. Vote on that and pass it.

I dare you, Sen. McCain.

ajacksonian on September 6, 2013 at 6:15 PM

You know, let’s just do it. Go in and bomb the holy hell out of Assad’s whole infrastructure. I mean everything. Level it. Tell the Russians to move out of the way or their sailors can kiss their asses goodbye. Make certain that the rebels understand that if we sniff ………..
HiJack on September 6, 2013 at 5:33 PM

OR we could save a couple hundred billion on ordnance, stay the hell out, let them all kill each other. and let the isrealis mop up whatever murder monkeys are left at the end. and use the money saved to put the damn missle defense back in eastern europe and screw the damn ruskies and that closeted queen putin.

t8stlikchkn on September 6, 2013 at 6:16 PM

McCain, just STFU and resign! And take Jeff Flake with you!

GarandFan on September 6, 2013 at 6:23 PM

It used to be that people would get to 60 or 65 and gracefully make way for the next generation, but now these f**kwads in government, and show business just hang on FORever and never want to go away. PLEASE! Just take your stolen money and go play golf, or get drunk (Chris Matthews) or whatever, but JUST GO

McCain
Pelosi
Reid
Madonna
Every Fonda still breathing
Nicholson
The Stones
Aerosmith
Ginsburg
Rangel
J. Jackson Sr.
Sharpton
Biden
Killary and Bill
and on and on and on…

teacherman on September 6, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Watch that lying liar tell a huge lie. My vote for McCain in 2008 will be a regret I take to my grave. All the “lesser of two evils” crowd should commit seppuku.

DFCtomm on September 6, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Except that at the time we knew what a mistake having this Obama guy in the White House would be, and we were willing to do anything and vote for anybody that would stop him. But no more. The GOP has proven that they don’t have our backs, and it’s better in the long run that real Dems be elected than Dem-lites.

HiJack on September 6, 2013 at 6:26 PM

To repeat a question from last night’s Kerry post, what exactly is the goal of the mission at this point?

“Cry ‘Havoc!’, and let slip the dogs of war”.

David Blue on September 6, 2013 at 6:27 PM

If no term limits, then mandatory retirement at age 68.

teacherman on September 6, 2013 at 6:27 PM

OR we could save a couple hundred billion on ordnance, stay the hell out, let them all kill each other. and let the isrealis mop up whatever murder monkeys are left at the end. and use the money saved to put the damn missle defense back in eastern europe and screw the damn ruskies and that closeted queen putin.

t8stlikchkn on September 6, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Here’s a thought. Lets put all this new high tech stuff to work for us. Say we develop a set of weaponry (small arms, grenades, rockets, etc.) that contains an imbedded GPS device. The GPS is connected to a substantial wad of C4, also embedded in the weapon.

The GPS contains a map with a specific boundary i.e.; the geographical border of Syria. As long as the weapon remains within that boundary, it is fully functional. Take it one step outside that border……

BOOOOOOM!

Supply both sides equally.

BobMbx on September 6, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Supply both sides equally.

BobMbx on September 6, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Now this is going right along with my plan to arm all the civilians!

This is shaping up to be a way better Plan B than Obama’s Plan Zero.

ajacksonian on September 6, 2013 at 7:01 PM

BobMbx on September 6, 2013 at 6:34 PM

ajacksonian on September 6, 2013 at 7:01 PM

In fact we should have a secret plan to keep the Sunni and Shia permanently at war with each other, and provide quiet assistance anytime one of them starts to lose.

slickwillie2001 on September 6, 2013 at 7:08 PM

…Senator Senile is full of Sh!t…

KOOLAID2 on September 6, 2013 at 7:14 PM

Senile liar…

jimver on September 6, 2013 at 7:29 PM

Yeah, McCain and Lindsey Graham will never countenance the use of ground troops.

Unless, you know, Assad fights back or something. I mean, if he manages to kill some of our guys launching missiles at him, or other targets in reach, then we’ll have No Choice but to Bring Him to Justice.

But really, how likely is that?

HitNRun on September 6, 2013 at 9:01 PM

“They are embarrassed to be associated with the amateurism of the Obama administration’s attempts to craft a plan that makes strategic sense.”

Well, you can be sure that Obama is embarrassed to be associated with generals who can’t do their job better than he can.

Dusty on September 6, 2013 at 9:28 PM

The US has been their de facto defense organization for seventy years. That’s why they’ve been able to afford socialism all this time. It takes longer to run out of other people’s money when you don’t have to provide for your own national defense.

Kafir on September 6, 2013 at 5:20 PM

+

98ZJUSMC on September 6, 2013 at 11:44 PM

For once we agree… Lies!

conservativeBC on September 7, 2013 at 1:35 AM

In fact we should have a secret plan to keep the Sunni and Shia permanently at war with each other, and provide quiet assistance anytime one of them starts to lose.

slickwillie2001 on September 6, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Sounds like the way the Left’s Media plays the Republican factions.

AesopFan on September 7, 2013 at 2:12 AM

That turd hasn’t the moral fortitude to follow through with that threat. Note that boots on the ground include CIA trainers not just active combatants.

{^_^}

herself on September 7, 2013 at 3:08 AM

Senator McCain should recognize it is time for him to sit down and be quiet.

Jill1066 on September 6, 2013 at 4:39 PM

unfortunately that will not happen until the AZ voters grow some brains and send this yappin’ little Chihuahua (sp) >? back to the pound.

cableguy615 on September 8, 2013 at 9:05 AM