Quotes of the day

posted at 10:01 pm on September 5, 2013 by Allahpundit

Sen. John McCain, whose endorsement of President Barack Obama’s plan to launch military strikes against Syria provided the president a key Republican backer, faced vocal opponents of military action during a town hall in Arizona Thursday…

“We didn’t send you to make war for us. We sent you to stop the war,” one man said to applause…

“This is what I think of Congress,” [another man] told McCain. “They are a bunch of marshmallows. That’s what they are. That’s what they’ve become. Why are you not listening to the people and staying out of Syria? It’s not our fight.”

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Federal lawmakers who plan to vote in favor of a U.S. military strike against Syria “might as well start cleaning out” their office, U.S. Rep. Justin Amash said Thursday.

Amash, R-Cascade Township, tweeted that the “unprecedented level of public opposition” to military intervention in the country should beg for dissenting votes…

The sophomore lawmaker, whose mother was born in Syria, estimated 95 percent of those who turned out at meetings throughout his district were opposed to intervention.

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Paul’s friends say the role of leading this bloc is a natural one for the Republican freshman. They also believe that the Syria question gives him an opportunity to dismantle his critics’ caricature of his libertarian views. His team is eager to cast Paul as an heir to Ronald Reagan, who, they argue, was frequently reluctant to involve the U.S. military in foreign civil wars. “It’s about reclaiming the party from hawks and putting us back in the mode of Reagan,” says a Paul source. “As we do that, we want to help him, so we’re pushing back really hard against the isolationism chatter. That’s not what he’s about; he’s about non-intervention and the national interest.”…

Moving ahead, Paul’s aides say the senator will spend more of his time working the inside angle against intervention. In the House, he’s working closely with Thomas Massie of Kentucky and Justin Amash of Michigan to lobby Republicans to oppose. In the Senate, he hopes to have Rubio, Ted Cruz of Texas, and Mike Lee of Utah, among others, at his side. On the outside, several tea-party groups and conservative powers, such as Heritage Action, share Paul’s position, but Paul believes his time is best spent working the phones and, when appropriate, speaking with the press. “The outside stuff is organic and not being directed by us,” says the Paul adviser. “We didn’t have to organize it; it’s happening on its own.”

Paul’s staff sees the House vote in July on Amash’s amendment to restrict the National Security Agency’s surveillance capabilities as a precedent for the kind of coalition Paul is trying to build. On that vote, liberal doves joined with Paul-aligned Republicans to nearly pass the legislation. Paul feels that if he and Amash can get that band back together, they have a shot at beating Boehner in the House and then forcing Obama’s hand. Maybe they can even get close to doing something similar in the Senate. It won’t be easy, but this is Paul’s moment, and he’s trying to make the most of it.

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“What you have occurring is the first real policy engagement between a resurgent realist foreign policy worldview lead by Sen. Paul, versus the interventionist McCain and Graham wing which has been dominant in the party since 9/11,” said one Paul ally familiar with the senator’s thinking. “The debate on foreign policy and the appropriate use of U.S. military power was going to be happening at some point, but it is now happening in a case that creates an excellent opportunity for Sen. Paul.”…

If the measure fails in the House, Paul is likely to get a big piece of the credit/blame — particularly since House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) have come out in support of the resolution.

“Success for Sen. Paul on this will be demonstrating there are a larger number of Republicans, both elected and policy experts, who agree with his assessment of the situation as it relates to our national interests, the strategic objectives, and the potential consequences,” said the Paul source.

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Other voices in the party are growing louder in their opposition. Sarah Palin, who defended the war in Iraq as McCain’s running mate in 2008, posted a Facebook message on Syria that declared Americans should just let “Allah sort it out.”

Sen. Ted Cruz, a Texas Republican, has questions about the motives of the Syrian opposition fighting against the government there. He said the airstrikes against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad would turn the U.S. military into “al Qaeda’s Air Force.”…

Nowhere is that tension more obvious than with Sen. Marco Rubio, the Florida Republican and another potential 2016 presidential candidate, who seems torn between McCain and Paul on the issue.

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Rubio made clear that he did not support any U.S. military action in Syria. “We’re not talking about American troops on the ground,” he said. “We’re not talking about U.S. air power, we’re not talking about sending American soldiers or even American trainers into Syria. We’re talking about providing ammunition. That’s all we’re talking about doing.”

Rubio’s office also pointed to a long list of statements going back to 2011 in which Rubio advocated a variety of measures against Syria — mostly sanctions against the Assad regime — but not any sort of U.S. military action. “I describe Rubio’s foreign policy as being somewhere in between Rand Paul and John McCain,” said one aide Wednesday. “He’s not an isolationist, but he’s very cautious about engaging militarily overseas.” Rubio’s committee vote on Wednesday against the Obama intervention resolution, the aide said, is entirely consistent with Rubio’s long-held positions.

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On the other hand, let’s imagine that things play out differently. Let’s imagine the political winds shift, as they often do (think about how bad Hillary’s vote for Iraq looked a couple years later). What if Republicans return to a more traditional (at least, in modern terms) position on foreign affairs, and suddenly they crave a strong Commander in Chief who puts dictators in line?

If that happens, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie — who is already perfectly-cast to play the role of a strong executive who puts other countries back in line — will remind voters that his opponents allowed a dictator to use chemical weapons – and didn’t do anything about it…

If the establishment hawks and the neocons circle the wagons around Christie — if he is able to “own” that brand and have it all to himself — one imagines that would translate into a lot of money and support for Christie. It’s one way he could emerge as the lone establishment candidate. Christie would love that, inasmuch as we could see a repeat of 2008 and 2012, where conservatives split the vote and allowed an establishment candidate to win the nomination.

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“Right now, the easy Republican vote looks like the vote against Obama,” said Michael Goldfarb, a neoconservative lobbyist and writer. “Ten days from now, a vote against Obama could look like a vote for Assad, especially if Republicans succeed in blocking U.S. action, and Assad goes on to prevail, having used chemical weapons, with Iran at his side.”

Mr. Goldfarb’s message to Congressional Republicans is this: “Voting to let an Iranian proxy keep killing his own people with weapons of mass destruction may be as risky as it sounds.”…

“Isolationist tendencies don’t do well in American politics over the long run,” Mr. Senor said.

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This was once a great land that asked not what oppressed people could do for themselves; it asked, instead, what we could do for them. Today, every urge to rescue others, to intervene on the side of the murdered underdogs, is met by many in this country with accusations of imperialism. Our loss of righteous strength—strength that was once this country’s greatest asset—is now celebrated by many Americans, including those who write for this publication: in tones that are akin to ululation, David Stockman, who once worked for the Reagan White House, celebrates the end of America’s “Imperium,” of the “American warfare state.” As someone who has elected to live in this country by moral choice, I say to Stockman (in echo of Kipling): … what should they know of America who only America know?

How did we come to this state? I refer not only to the Stockmans (who, mercifully, are of no political consequence), but also to Rep. Rand Paul, who will not do the right thing by innocent Syrians because he wishes to cut Barack Obama not an inch of slack. Rand Paul is a hideous isolationist. I happen to be rereading The Bonfire of the Vanities, and early in the book a bond trader called Rawlie Thorpe tells Sherman McCoy, the novel’s central character, “If you want to live in New York, you’ve got to insulate, insulate, insulate”—meaning, insulate yourself from anyone who might cause you discomfort, inconvenience, a moment’s moral reckoning. “If you could go breezing down the FDR Drive in a taxi, then why file into the trenches of the urban wars?” Rand Paul, meet Rawlie Thorpe.

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Via Mediaite.

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Via MFP.


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Go Rand!!!

Bishop…

JohnGalt23 on September 5, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Y’all can have this. I’m going to bed.

cozmo on September 5, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Would someone please refer me to an Obama Mid-East policy that has worked?

predator on September 5, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Christie would love that, inasmuch as we could see a repeat of 2008 and 2012, where conservatives split the vote and allowed an establishment candidate to win the nomination.

Uhm … I think, Mr. Matt Lewis, that’s an incomplete sentence — allow me to finish it for you:

“… and lose the general election.”

You’re welcome.

ShainS on September 5, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Mr. Goldfarb’s message to Congressional Republicans is this: “Voting to let an Iranian proxy keep killing his own people with weapons of mass destruction may be as risky as it sounds.”…

“Isolationist tendencies don’t do well in American politics over the long run,” Mr. Senor said.

America Has No National Interest In Syria & There’s No Guarantee That Our Intervention Will Make Things Any Better…For Anyone.

ABCNEWS-WASHPOST POLL: 59% oppose…

PEW: 29% support…

70% of Americans Don’t Want US to Arm Syrian Rebels

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 10:11 PM

I’ll stick with Cruz, Paul, Palin, Lee etc.

Boehner, Cantor, McCain, Rubio, Christie etc. will be considered the opposition.

Bmore on September 5, 2013 at 10:13 PM

Would someone please refer me to an Obama Mid-East policy that has worked?

predator on September 5, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Apparently, Obama’s approval rating is on the rise among Israelis … up from 4% in August of 2009!

So, he’s got that going for him …

ShainS on September 5, 2013 at 10:13 PM

Apparently, Obama’s approval rating is on the rise among Israelis … up from 4% in August of 2009!

So, he’s got that going for him …

ShainS on September 5, 2013 at 10:13 PM

I’d like to see the demographics of that poll. What percentage of the poll was from Gaza and the West Bank? ;)

predator on September 5, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Obama is essentially Professor Weston in C.S.Lewis’s Perelandra.

Murphy9 on September 5, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Christie related UFBS detected:

On the other hand,

Watch the other hand

let’s imagine that things play out differently.

WHY?

Let’s imagine the political winds shift,

To the right? We could only hope

as they often do

DC (R) writers have a problem with understanding the electorate

(think about how bad Hillary’s vote for Iraq looked a couple years later).

The Lightbringer killed Hillary

What if Republicans return to a more traditional

HAHAHAHAH

(at least, in modern terms)

DERP

position on foreign affairs,

DERP

and suddenly they crave a strong Commander in Chief who puts dictators in line?

Such idiocy on display here

If that happens,

Not realistic

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie

We can stop it here if you want

— who is already perfectly-cast to play the role of a strong executive who puts other countries back in line —

By yelling at them?

will remind voters that his opponents

His base?

allowed a dictator to use chemical weapons – and didn’t do anything about it…

Fat joke

If the establishment hawks and the neocons

Redundancy

circle the wagons around Christie

Done deasl

— if he is able to “own” that brand and have it all to himself —

Him or Rubio, UGH!

one imagines

I did notice that

that would translate into a lot of money

Be careful..

and support

I hear this place has some traps

for Christie.

Combine the two above

It’s one way he could emerge

Fat joke

as the lone establishment candidate.

Jeb, Rubio and Huntsman say hi

Christie would love that,

As much as he loves himself

inasmuch as we could see a repeat of 2008 and 2012,

So he wants to lose

where conservatives split the vote

Was there a conservative running?

and allowed an establishment candidate to win the nomination.

See above

nobar on September 5, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Yo

Electrongod on September 5, 2013 at 10:18 PM

“What you have occurring is the first real policy engagement between a resurgent realist foreign policy worldview lead by Sen. Paul, versus the interventionist McCain and Graham wing which has been dominant in the party since 9/11,”

Uh … no. McShame and Lady Lindsey don’t represent any “wing”. I am a big-time hawk and have no problem with America moving aggressively to protect our national interests, but the Syrian civil war involves none of this. The time to hit Syria was when they were offering refuge for al-quaeda in iraq fighters during our initial position in Iraq. When Hezbollah does something Syria should be hit – though by Israel, not us.

But Syrians killing each other IS in our security interests and we should be happy if they keep killing each other for a long time. If they use chemical weapons and do it faster, good for them. If it looks like a threat then Israel will hit them, but we have nothing to do with military action there and this has nothing to do with “being a hawk”.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 5, 2013 at 10:18 PM

Other voices in the party are growing louder in their opposition. Sarah Palin, who defended the war in Iraq as McCain’s running mate in 2008, posted a Facebook message on Syria that declared Americans should just let “Allah sort it out.”

Rep Alan Grayson agrees with Palin.

#IceSkatesNeededInHell

Also: Grayson: Syria Intelligence Manipulated (To Favour War)

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 10:18 PM

Yo

Electrongod on September 5, 2013 at 10:18 PM

Yo, blood! What up!

predator on September 5, 2013 at 10:19 PM

The biggest winner if we do not strike the Assad terrorist regime will be every enemy of the US because they will be greatly emboldened… Al Qaeda terrorists will be greatly emboldened, Iran/Assad/Hizballah axis of terror will be greatly emboldened, Russia, China, North Korea will be greatly emboldened… However if 99% of Americans do not want a strike on Syria so be it… I hope that 99% of Americans will not be against a strike against the Iranian terrorist regime in the future when Iran is on the verge of getting a nuclear weapon…

mnjg on September 5, 2013 at 10:19 PM

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.¤·º°´¯¸.¤·º°´¯¸.¤·º° Happy Sept. 5th¯`°º·¤.¸¯`°º·¤.¸

Historical events and fun news items:

1774 The First Continental Congress gathers in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
1836 The Republic of Texas elects Sam Houston as president.

1906 The first legal forward pass is thrown in an American football game.

1960 Muhammad Ali wins the Olympic gold medal in boxing

1997 Mother Teresa, Nobel Peace Prize winner, dies.

Famous Birthdays:

1847 Jesse James (Outlaw)

1929 Bob Newhart (Comedian)

1940 Raquel Welch (Actress)

1946 Freddy Mercury (Singer for Queen)

1951 Michael Keaton (Actor)

1973 Rose McGowan (Actress)

1986 Colt McCoy (NFL Football player)

Murphy9 on September 5, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Happened to see this on a Dollard tweety.

Bmore on September 5, 2013 at 10:20 PM

Murphy9 on September 5, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Nicely done. ; )

Bmore on September 5, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Sen. John McCain … faced vocal opponents of military action during a town hall in Arizona Thursday…

“We didn’t send you to make war for us. We sent you to stop the war,” one man said to applause…

You sent John-bomb-bomb-bomb-bomb-bomb-Iran-McCain to Congress to stop a war? Are you mental?

Valkyriepundit on September 5, 2013 at 10:24 PM

The biggest winner if we do not strike the Assad terrorist regime will be every enemy of the US because they will be greatly emboldened… Al Qaeda terrorists will be greatly emboldened, Iran/Assad/Hizballah axis of terror will be greatly emboldened, Russia, China, North Korea will be greatly emboldened… However if 99% of Americans do not want a strike on Syria so be it… I hope that 99% of Americans will not be against a strike against the Iranian terrorist regime in the future when Iran is on the verge of getting a nuclear weapon…

mnjg on September 5, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Except that a strike against Assad will in fact be HELPING AQ.
And you don’t think THAT will embolden AQ?

dentarthurdent on September 5, 2013 at 10:25 PM

mnjg on September 5, 2013 at 10:19 PM

So, whenever an American President makes an ass out of himself on the world stage, American troops, taxpayers, and families have to support bombing the hell out of some country.

Gotcha.

Sorry, But Obama’s Credibility Crisis Is One Of His Own Making

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 10:25 PM

It’s ALL a LIE!

Sec. John Kerry used a “photo” to show the atrocities in Syria, by Assad’s regime. He LIED!

The problem: the photo is of a chemical attack in IRAQ in 2003! The photo was taken by Italian photographer Marco di Lauro, who stated he about fell off his chair when he saw it was being used to start a war in Syria!

The story is here: http://syria360.wordpress.com/2012/05/27/photographer-marco-di-lauro-exposes-bbcs-use-of-his-iraq-photos-as-propaganda-for-houla-massacre/

DixT on September 5, 2013 at 10:25 PM

The biggest winner if we do not strike the Assad terrorist regime will be every enemy of the US because they will be greatly emboldened…

That’s totally ridiculous.

Al Qaeda terrorists will be greatly emboldened,

As compared to what? You don’t think they’re emboldened, now?

Iran/Assad/Hizballah axis of terror will be greatly emboldened,

LOL. A minor strike on Syria – or even a major one – won’t stop Iran or Hezbollah, though it might turn Syria over to Sunni pan-islamist nutjobs. Great move, there …

Russia, China, North Korea will be greatly emboldened…

They were emboldened the minute the Indonesia Dog-Eating sackOS was elected. Doing a Libya on Syria won’t change any of that.

However if 99% of Americans do not want a strike on Syria so be it… I hope that 99% of Americans will not be against a strike against the Iranian terrorist regime in the future when Iran is on the verge of getting a nuclear weapon…

mnjg on September 5, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Iran is a different story, but if Iranians were killing each en masse I would say let that go on, too. The problem is that they aren’t so eventually we or Israel is going to have to.

Of course, the person and junta that you want to give the green light to shoot fireworks at Syria and de3clare themselves “man-made disaster fighters of overseas contingency operations” will not let Israel do anything and will, in the end, blame Israel for everything (as has been this criminal administration’s policy since Barky first slimed into office).

Let Syrians kill each other. Let them kill each other as much as they can. That is where the civilized world is served (of course, the civilized world does not include the third-world dog-eater and his interests, which extend to nothing but killing us and the West). You need to take a little broader perspective on what’s actually going on.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 5, 2013 at 10:26 PM

No Islamic Rage Boy™, Green Helmet Guy™ or Islamic Grieving Moslem Mom™ pics yet?

Murphy9 on September 5, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 10:25 PM

So you think that only Obama will be damaged if we do not strike Syria?

mnjg on September 5, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Let Syrians kill each other. Let them kill each other as much as they can. That is where the civilized world is served

Hammer, meet nail. Well done.

predator on September 5, 2013 at 10:29 PM

So, whenever an American President makes an ass out of himself on the world stage, American troops, taxpayers, and families have to support bombing the hell out of some country.

Gotcha.

Sorry, But Obama’s Credibility Crisis Is One Of His Own Making

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 10:25 PM

I am SO posting something on that tomorrow before I explode, if I have to stay up all night to get the junk out of the way that’s in the way.

Axe on September 5, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Yo

Electrongod on September 5, 2013 at 10:18 PM

…Yo… back!

KOOLAID2 on September 5, 2013 at 10:30 PM

What we are seeing is the old guard elite against the new blood that actually has concern for the country. Look at those who support the one, pretty much been there for at least 15 years. They refuse to step aside for the next group, which is Cruz, Paul, Amash. Even the Dims are suffering the same fate. I truly hope this is the wake up call this country needs, and in 2014, both sides vote the elites out of town.

uncommon sense on September 5, 2013 at 10:30 PM

…get that Senile Sh!t Senator out of Arizona…people!

KOOLAID2 on September 5, 2013 at 10:31 PM

‘Employment of airstrikes alone…would create a double jeopardy: IT WOULD COMPRISE AN ACT OF WAR AND WOULD ALSO ENTAIL THE RISK OF HAVING INTERVENED AND LOST.’

– Pres Eisenhower on intervening in Vietnam on behalf of France

But what did the former Supreme Allied Commander during World War II know about war anyway?

I mean, unlike Preezy Obama, Senator Senile, and SecState Lurch, he actually WON a war, which, of course, proves that he didn’t know a damn thing about which he was talking, ‘natch.

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Murphy9 on September 5, 2013 at 10:19 PM

1972 Munich Massacre: Palestinian terrorist organization “Black September” attack and take hostage 11 Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympic Games — 2 are murdered in the attack and 9 are murdered the following day.

A year earlier on this date, a young Barry Soetoro suspiciously eyes dogs in his Indonesian neighborhood …

ShainS on September 5, 2013 at 10:32 PM

…Yo… back!

KOOLAID2 on September 5, 2013 at 10:30 PM

:)

Electrongod on September 5, 2013 at 10:33 PM

So you think that only Obama will be damaged if we do not strike Syria?

Barky is damaged goods no matter what happens with Syria. But, we will be damaged if we do strike Syria. Let them kill each other. We have no interests in their civil war. Our only interest in having them continue their civil war.

mnjg on September 5, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Why do you care about Syrians killing Syrians?

Also, Iran is not handled by messing around with Syria or hezbollah. Iran is handled by dealing harshly and directly with Iran. The Iranians laugh at people who are scared to deal with them and, instead, think that hitting their satellites will “send some sort of message”.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 5, 2013 at 10:33 PM

So you think that only Obama will be damaged if we do not strike Syria?

mnjg on September 5, 2013 at 10:29 PM

I think the US will be more damaged if it DOES strike Syria, especially without the support of the American people and the ‘international community.’

I dunno. Maybe, I just have a big problem in aiding, assisting, and arming groups that are affiliated with Al-Qaeda, WHO HAS, UNLIKE SYRIA, DECLARED WAR ON THE UNITED STATES.

Call me – and the majority of Americans – stupid for thinking that it might not be such a great idea to fire a few Tomahawk missiles ‘across the bow’ to just scare Assad or go further and overthrow him. After all, Libya and Egypt have risen to the top of world tourist destinations since the falls of Qaddafi and Mubarak. /

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 10:37 PM

Rand Paul certainly is impressive.

bluegill on September 5, 2013 at 10:37 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 5, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Yeah our enemies will be so afraid of us if we do not strike Assad terrorist regime…

mnjg on September 5, 2013 at 10:38 PM

There is only one action I support in Syria: Drop rotten pork on both sides (using Russian aircraft) and blame both sides. /popcorn

nobar on September 5, 2013 at 10:38 PM

Brit Hume doesn’t know jack. His own network is reporting these rebels who John McCain claims isn’t a bad lot attacked a Christian village.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/09/05/as-us-strike-looms-al-qaida-linked-rebels-attack-regime-held-christian-village/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fworld+(Internal+-+World+Latest+-+Text)

jawkneemusic on September 5, 2013 at 10:39 PM

Yeah our enemies will be so afraid of us if we do not strike Assad terrorist regime…

mnjg on September 5, 2013 at 10:38 PM

They won’t be afraid of us no matter what we do as long as Obama is in office. Get a grip jack.

jawkneemusic on September 5, 2013 at 10:40 PM

UK’s David ‘Muffin’ Cameron: Obama Drew the Red Line

But, hey, just like Chris Matthews said, we have to support this clusterfark to save Obama’s hide or something!

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 10:40 PM

Yeah our enemies will be so afraid of us if we do not strike Assad terrorist regime…

mnjg on September 5, 2013 at 10:38 PM

‘Cuz, like, um, ya know, our enemies are so afraid of us now after Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Libya, Yemen, Sudan, Somalia, Egypt, etc.

**eyefvckingroll**

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Also, Iran is not handled by messing around with Syria or hezbollah. Iran is handled by dealing harshly and directly with Iran. The Iranians laugh at people who are scared to deal with them and, instead, think that hitting their satellites will “send some sort of message”.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 5, 2013 at 10:33 PM

Iran and their Hizballah will fall soon after Assad falls… Also are you for a war against Iran even if Obama leads it?

mnjg on September 5, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Yeah our enemies will be so afraid of us if we do not strike Assad terrorist regime…

mnjg on September 5, 2013 at 10:38 PM

As if they will if we DO strike Assad….
AQ will be laughing all the way to the bank, so to speak, at the idea that they have managed to get the great satan to attack another enemy of AQ.
You and Obumble are being used and abused by AQ.

dentarthurdent on September 5, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Evening. My job sucks and I ‘think’ I forgot my keys at the doctors office this morning. Blech.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 5, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Yeah our enemies will be so afraid of us if we do not strike Assad terrorist regime…

mnjg on September 5, 2013 at 10:38 PM

Oh puhlllleeeeeease. You think that a strike on Syria for no reason other than the Syrians are killing each other is going to have any effect on Barky’s allies/America’s enemies? LOL.

Tell me, what did Syria do, exactly, that you think warrants a strike at this time? You want to stop a Syrian civil war? Is that what you think will make Barky’s allies/America’s enemies quake and shiver??

This is getting ridiculous.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 5, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Electrongod on September 5, 2013 at 10:18 PM

Yo

Yo

Evening All!

CoffeeLover on September 5, 2013 at 10:43 PM

The damage is done, nothing the one does is going to make a difference to our enemies, unless he does something out of the ordinary. Maybe take out Irans nuclear capability? The sad thing is we are very close to a very real WWIII.

uncommon sense on September 5, 2013 at 10:45 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on September 5, 2013 at 10:43 PM

alt, that ‘stinks’ all around. They fix you up?

CoffeeLover on September 5, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Iran and their Hizballah will fall soon after Assad falls…

ROFLMAO. Okey doke …

Also are you for a war against Iran even if Obama leads it?

mnjg on September 5, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Now, you’re just trying to be silly. Barky has already done everything in his power (and even criminal acts outside of his power) to stop Israel from hitting Iran and their nuke program. But you think that there’s something to talk about with respect to Barky leading an attack on Iran? LOL.

You know, I don’t remember your comments being this ridiculous before. Ever.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 5, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Rubio has been fatally exposed. People know his word means nothing now, and all his scrambling around is just pathetic.

Paul is the leader on this.

rrpjr on September 5, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Signals, signals, signals. All these guys talk about are “signals.” It doesn’t even mean anything. Signal that you are trying to kill your enemies by making war. Signal that you are not trying to kill your enemies by not making war. Put anything else you want her to know in an email and send it. She’ll read it. Eventually.

F your “signals,” guys.

Axe on September 5, 2013 at 10:46 PM

I think I’ll just hunt critters. Voted all my life. It didn’t work.

Of course I’ll need my liscenses and permits.

wolly4321 on September 5, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Of all Senate Committee members, John McCain received the largest amount from defense contractors:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2412709/Senators-backed-Syria-resolution-got-83-cent-defense-lobby-money.html

Senators who voted for Syrian intervention received 83% more from defense lobby than those who didn’t.

bw222 on September 5, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Obama had his chance against Iran. The Green Revolution or Green Movement it was called?????

He punted.

Obama to the huddle: “OK, guys, three dives at the line, then I’ll punt.”

*And blame it on you, cuz you’re evil right-wingers*

predator on September 5, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Iran and their Hizballah will fall soon after Assad falls… Also are you for a war against Iran even if Obama leads it?

mnjg on September 5, 2013 at 10:42 PM

So you think Syria is holding up Iran?
That’s rich…..

dentarthurdent on September 5, 2013 at 10:48 PM

CoffeeLover on September 5, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Yeah. I’m on an antibiotic. I had my keys with me when I walked into the clinic. I called Starbucks and work. Nope. So they’re home(here) or the clinic

annoyinglittletwerp on September 5, 2013 at 10:51 PM

I am a hawk, I will be the first to beat the war drums if our real allies are attacked, like Britain, Canada, Australia, South Korea, Japan, etc. but we have no real allies in the Islamic world and never will.

I would vote for Dennis Kucinich, and I don’t even like him very much, if it meant keeping us out of this idiotic debacle we are about to take part in.

Obama is going out of his way to drive Russia into the arms of China, which is a real strategic problem. We should be doing everything we can to drive a edge between them, not get them married!

And all of this, over a piece of crap called Syria. A fake country drawn up on some chalk board by the British and French after WWI so they could divide the “spoils” only to find out it was a waste land populated by people who had a insane religion.

William Eaton on September 5, 2013 at 10:52 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on September 5, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Hopefully, they’ll show up before you go to bed or the Drs. office will have them when you call there tomorrow. :)

CoffeeLover on September 5, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Catholic Priest in Syria says don’t go in

Nowhere is that tension more obvious than with Sen. Marco Rubio, the Florida Republican and another potential 2016 presidential candidate, who seems torn between McCain and Paul on the issue.

Could he be any more of a wishy washy wimp of man? Rand Paul is eating his lunch on this.

gophergirl on September 5, 2013 at 10:55 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on September 5, 2013 at 10:43 PM

I’ll corn your pineapple if you want. Anytime you need one corned I’ll do it. (:

SparkPlug on September 5, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Since ALT got us off topic, I’ll use this time to do my long-awaited (and over innuendoed) “first time with the sex pistol story”. Apologies as this may contain very crude and crass jokes:

So, tonight I went to the range to break in the sex pistol. I assume that based on previous marks that it was damaged goods. After carefully removing the protection (cause that’s how I roll), I loaded my high capacity magazine. The first few missed, but that’s how it often is when you transit from one type to another. There was much kicking and screaming (with her doing all of it), a good deal of kickback from me and of course eviscerated sheets. Unfortunately, stamina is hard to come by, so I had to stop relatively soon (not how I roll). She was messy (and a little singey, but that’s how she rolls) and still needs to be cleaned, but that’s for a later period. True to form, there were multiple partners, with me having a better experience with the petite one (dad’s 22). She was 30 (days that is) and I was 22, so technically, it was a cougar-esque session.

Ok I’m done. Mind bleach ->way

nobar on September 5, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Looking forward to watching this unfold. Obama has his heels dug in hard.

KCB on September 5, 2013 at 10:57 PM

William Eaton- yea,, those straight lines didn’t work out so well.

wolly4321 on September 5, 2013 at 10:58 PM

William Eaton on September 5, 2013 at 10:52 PM

The unholy alliances that O has arranged via “Smart Power” scares the crap out of me. The blind eyes in our hemisphere are even more unsettling.

CoffeeLover on September 5, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Iran and their Hizballah will fall soon after Assad falls… Also are you for a war against Iran even if Obama leads it?

mnjg on September 5, 2013 at 10:42 PM

so I guess you are down with a the Sunni Jihad state that will follow after Assad, Iran and Hizballah fall. You know it was not Iran, Hezbollah, and Assad that flew planes into our buildings, or set off bombs in Boston.

Not saying they are good guys, but the fact they exist keeps the Islamic world divided. You basically are advocating for a unified Sunni state in the Islamic world.

William Eaton on September 5, 2013 at 10:58 PM

SparkPlug on September 5, 2013 at 10:56 PM

All that little b*stard got was a talking to. Anyone else would have gotten instantly terminated!

annoyinglittletwerp on September 5, 2013 at 10:58 PM

What is Obama doing here? Really. Does anybody have well-sourced theories? Is he simply incompetent? Is it just about his ego and “credibility”? Is he really covertly supporting radical Islam and are all the claims about the “moderate” rebels a smokescreen?

Will getting rid of Assad help or hurt Iran?

How does this tie into Libya? That is, after Benghazi we heard talk of a covert gun running operation out of Libya to radical elements. Was this true?

rrpjr on September 5, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Would someone please refer me to an Obama Mid-East policy that has worked?

predator on September 5, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Working or not. You know, the Obama doctrine. Anyone have a clue what it is?

Fallon on September 5, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Hey whats new?

Mid East still FUBAR’d beyond recognition?
Is it scrothced to the nth degree where n is a high number?

Those Korantards sure are civilization challenged.

Miserable bunch of 7th century neanderthals.

SparkPlug on September 5, 2013 at 11:00 PM

So, tonight I went to the range to break in the sex pistol. I assume that based on previous marks that it was damaged goods.

nobar on September 5, 2013 at 10:57 PM

I must have missed the intro. What sort of pistol are we talking about?

On a semi-related note, I just moved and found there’s a shooting range not 5 minutes from me (as opposed to the old place when I had to drive half an hour into Philly to go shooting).

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 5, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Hey Twerp. Went to the Cubs game on Monday… They still suck but they miss you.

Fallon on September 5, 2013 at 11:01 PM

KCB on September 5, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Hi!

He has hasn’t he! And they seem they’ll do anything to get their way…never thinking the world gets a voice in it. Since they get away with everything here in our country.

CoffeeLover on September 5, 2013 at 11:02 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on September 5, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Don’t worry. The little SOB will mess up again cause the little sob thinks its untouchable. And when it messes up again it will be kicked to the curb.

SparkPlug on September 5, 2013 at 11:02 PM

I must have missed the intro. What sort of pistol are we talking about?

On a semi-related note, I just moved and found there’s a shooting range not 5 minutes from me (as opposed to the old place when I had to drive half an hour into Philly to go shooting).

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 5, 2013 at 11:01 PM

The pistol I bought contains sex in the serial…

*Addendum to story* She smoked after every push. It didn’t smell pleasant, but at least I knew she was happy.

nobar on September 5, 2013 at 11:03 PM

At least I will give McCain credit for holding town hall meetings. My Congressional Representative Mike Rogers (who is pro-Syria invasion) was too chicken to schedule town hall meetings during the recess.

bw222 on September 5, 2013 at 11:05 PM

nobar on September 5, 2013 at 11:03 PM

LOL :)

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 5, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Working or not. You know, the Obama doctrine. Anyone have a clue what it is?
Fallon on September 5, 2013 at 10:59 PM

It appears to be “Support the Caliphate at All Cost”.
Iran–check
Libya–check
Egypt–check
Syria–?

txhsmom on September 5, 2013 at 11:07 PM

So it looks like the early Media choice for the coveted position of “Most Likely Republican Candidate to Win the Nomination but Lose the Election in 2016″ is going to be the morbidly obese mofo from New Jersey. Great. Just great.

And who is this guy, Rubio, that they refer to? He sounds like a duplicitous wuss.

justltl on September 5, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Fallon on September 5, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Any team can have a bad centur…ies.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 5, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Iran and their Hizballah will fall soon after Assad falls…

mnjg on September 5, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Didn’t they assure us that siding with and arming Saddam Hussein in the 1980s would cause the Iranian regime to fall, too? How’d that work out for ya?

You know, mnjg, I have to hand it to you. Your powers of persuasion are really beginning to work on me. There is a growing part of me that is on the verge of coming out gung-ho in favour of attacking Syria and causing the despotic Assad regime to fall…

…just to see you turn yourself into a fvcking pretzel explaining why Iran is – SHOCKA! – still on its nuclear warpath and how you are just so STUNNED that Syria has become a failed ‘Islamist Paradise.’

Pure schadenfreude, my dear. Pure schadenfreude.

Also are you for a war against Iran even if Obama leads it?

If he were to wage it as Libya and the lead up to Syria, yeah, you’re damn right I would oppose him.

Of course, I’m positive that you believe that firing a few ‘shots across (the Mullahs’) bow’ will turn them into Jeffersonian Democrats or something.

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 11:10 PM

bw222 on September 5, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Neugebauer has held quite a few townhalls in the district-but he’s also met w/ former Syrians to get their opinions. I don’t give a damn what a bunch of ex-Syrians think.

annoyinglittletwerp on September 5, 2013 at 11:11 PM

Has anyone SLAPPED McCain across The Face, Yet?

williamg on September 5, 2013 at 11:11 PM

BTW: Video: Syrian Rebel Admits Using Chemical Weapons

‘We’ll kill their women and children like Osama Bin Laden said.’

- The Syrian Rebels

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 11:11 PM

Rubio: “We are providing ammunition.”

Sure, you putz. Sure that is all we are gonigto do.

And even then, Marco, why? Seems they have enough to kill each other already.

There is no valid reason why we should be involved…other than pulling our President’s nuts out of the fire…if he has any to begin with…and with this President, aren’t we being enablers?

My rep is hung up on the “we must do something” thing, citing humanitarian reasons. If this were a humanitarian thing, where is the United Nations? The Arab League? Where are the Euros? NATO?

If it were a humanitarian thing, shouldn’t there be blue helmeted Fijians, and Nepalis, French? Should be all sorts of do-gooders out there under the banner of the UN?

If the rest of the world cannot beothered…why us?

And lobbying TLAM’s has become a humanitarian assistance tool since when?

Thought Obama wanted to punish Assad, send him a message? And nothing more?

Lot of Senators and Reps voting “no” for all the wrong reasons…I’ll accept their “no” votes…gladly.

But let’s not kid ourselves.

There are way too many, led by McCain, who want to just get all up in there…make it hurt…and do it big. And some are voting “no” because Obama isn’t going to do enough.

They are as dangerous to the Republic as is Obama sending our best young men and women into harm’s way because he will not be mocked.

coldwarrior on September 5, 2013 at 11:14 PM

I’m thinking of adding a semi to my arsenal. I’m petite w/ out a lot of upper body strength. I also want to spend less than 400 $$$$.
Suggestions?

annoyinglittletwerp on September 5, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Senators who voted for Syrian intervention received 83% more from defense lobby than those who didn’t.

bw222 on September 5, 2013 at 10:47 PM

FLASHBACK: Odious To The Nose Of Liberty: ‘Lawmakers Who Upheld NSA Phone Spying Received Double the Defense Industry Cash’

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Sarah Palin … posted a Facebook message on Syria that declared Americans should just let “Allah sort it out.”

LOL. Awesome.

WhatSlushfund on September 5, 2013 at 11:16 PM

‘Hey, guys, let’s intervene in the Spanish Civil War because the Stalin-backed ‘rebels’ are waaaaay kewl!’

- mnjg on September 5, 1936

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 11:19 PM

I’m thinking of adding a semi to my arsenal. I’m petite w/ out a lot of upper body strength. I also want to spend less than 400 $$$$.
Suggestions?

annoyinglittletwerp on September 5, 2013 at 11:14 PM

I know people are going to laugh at this, but get a Hi-Point 9mm. Cost is close to nothing (around $120), it shoots accurately, reliably and has very little kick since it’s a pure blowback action with a heavy slide. It’s a fun gun, made in America (what used to be America, at least) and comes with a no-questions-asked lifetime warranty. I have one and love it. It’s a bit on the ugly side but that’s the worst thing I can say about it. It always goes bang and is as accurate as any of the much more expensive guns. A bit on the bulky side, but for the price what do you have to lose?

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on September 5, 2013 at 11:19 PM

McCain is the one man in all America, at least among at all major political figures, who would likely have made an even worse President than Barack Hussein Obama. McCain is madder than a hatter.

VorDaj on September 5, 2013 at 11:20 PM

Axe on September 5, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Bitcoins!

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 11:21 PM

morbidly obese mofo from New Jersey.

ntw…dude will overeat his bypass…can’t move 50′ now without sob. in debates he’ll sputter stupid…toad’ll either drop dead or drop out.

gracie on September 5, 2013 at 11:21 PM

Miserable bunch of 7th century neanderthals.

SparkPlug on September 5, 2013 at 11:00 PM

That’s an insult to neanderthals…

dentarthurdent on September 5, 2013 at 11:22 PM

‘Hey, guys, let’s intervene in the Spanish Civil War because the Stalin-backed ‘rebels’ are waaaaay kewl!’

– mnjg on September 5, 1936

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 11:19 PM

LOL — all right, don’t be funny. :) Some of us are trying to mostly ignore you so we can work, and it’s mostly working.

Axe on September 5, 2013 at 11:22 PM

Betcha a zillion bitcoins RWM likes this song by Björk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNcthGt1nnA&list=PL0F036CD7C7CB3E19

SparkPlug on September 5, 2013 at 11:22 PM

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