Reuters: Kerry’s sunny estimate of Syrian opposition not backed up by intelligence

posted at 9:21 am on September 5, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

John Kerry has come to Capitol Hill to deliver the hard-sell on war against Bashar al-Assad, but Reuters reports that his supporting data is rather suspect.  Kerry insists, as does John McCain, that the Free Syrian Army controls the opposition in Syria and that radical Islamist elements comprise only a small percentage of rebel fighting units.  However, intelligence from US and European agencies put the radical Islamists near parity in numbers, and far more in control than Kerry and the Obama administration acknowledge:

Secretary of State John Kerry’s public assertions that moderate Syrian opposition groups are growing in influence appear to be at odds with estimates by U.S. and European intelligence sources and nongovernmental experts, who say Islamic extremists remain by far the fiercest and best-organized rebel elements. …

U.S. and allied intelligence sources and private experts on the Syrian conflict suggest that assessment is optimistic.

While the radical Islamists among the rebels may not be numerically superior to more moderate fighters, they say, Islamist groups like the al Qaeda-aligned Nusra Front are better organized, armed and trained.

Kerry insists that FSA’s General Salim Idriss has control, and the opposition is even holding elections for its leaders:

Kerry replied: “I just don’t agree that a majority are al Qaeda and the bad guys. That’s not true. There are about 70,000 to 100,000 oppositionists … Maybe 15 percent to 25 percent might be in one group or another who are what we would deem to be bad guys.

“There is a real moderate opposition that exists. General Idriss is running the military arm of that,” Kerry continued, referring to General Salim Idriss, head of the rebel Free Syrian Army. Increasingly, he said, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states are funneling assistance through Idriss.

According to Foreign Policy, though — hardly a conservative mouthpiece on foreign affairs — Idriss’ grasp on the opposition is crumbling, and may have been ephemeral all along.  Instead, his commanders have suddenly developed a taste for working with the elements that Kerry insists are too small to matter:

As the United States moves closer to taking military action against the Syrian government, the leadership of the mainstream armed opposition force has chosen a curious time to appear to be on the verge of unraveling. Known generically as the Free Syrian Army (FSA), this assortment of mostly secular defecting Sunni Arab officers and mostly Islamist volunteers has attempted several reorganizations. The most recent of these is now seriously threatened by a resignation threat from senior commanders. …

On August 22, four of the five front commanders threatened to resign from the SMC, promising to break “red lines” and work “with all forces fighting in Syria,” a clear reference to the war’s growing Salafist-Jihadist contingent. The statement was read by Colonel Fatih Hasun, who is the commander of the SMC’s Homs Front and the deputy chief-of-staff, that is to say, Idriss’s deputy and the most senior officer inside the country. Hasun added that rebels would no longer respect demands by outside powers that they not attempt to take over government-controlled chemical weapons sites. In addition to demanding action in response to the government’s use of chemical weapons in Damascus, Hasun also demanded better weapons and said they were tiring of the “false promises of those who call themselves Friends of Syria.”

While the resignation seemed tentative, Hasun was less equivocal about the other red line — the opposition’s Salafist-Jihadist groups, Jabhat al-Nusra and the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS) — both of which the United States has designated as terrorist entities linked to al Qaeda. Directly behind Hasun on the wall was an Islamic flag, with a pre-Assad Syria FSA flag draped to the side, a nod perhaps to the Salafists. Sitting to his right was a bearded cleric in Salafist garb. He directly stated, “we call upon all” FSA units to work with all others fighting the regime. Adding insult to injury, on August 25 Muhammad Tabnaja, field commander in Latakia for the Ahfad al-Faruq Brigade in Latakia, resigned citing the lack of support from the SMC.

If Idriss is in control and opposed to the radical Islamist elements, he would have acted forcefully to put down this rebellion within the rebellion. In the event, though, Idriss apparently couldn’t do anything:

Most telling is what happened when the SMC’s decision removing Akaydi was announced. Akaydi ignored it, then after brigade-level commanders within the AMC rejected the decision, he did an interview in which he mocked the SMC as made up of people “who are into travel and hotels and have no connection to what is happening on the ground.” He did clear Idriss of involvement, however, and Idriss promptly apologized to Akaydi and then traveled to Aleppo to meet with him and praise him. …

Idriss responded to Hasun’s threatened resignation by saying he “rejected” it, as if he had the power to do so.

Is the White House following the intelligence of its own agencies and that of its allies?  Is it even following the public events that demonstrate the lack of effectiveness in the FSA and the rise of al-Qaeda-affiliated leadership in the Syrian rebellion?  Or are they just so concerned about preventing Barack Obama’s humiliation that they don’t care?

Addendum: The New York Times offers a profile of one group that illustrates the problem of choosing sides in this fight:

At first, people who know Mr. Issa said, he was a protester, and then he led fighters in small skirmishes. By last year he was running a training camp in the highlands near Turkey.

By this year, the aide said, he was gathering weapons from relatives and Arab businessmen he knew from his work as a trader and, at least once, from the Western-supported Supreme Military Council of the Free Syrian Army, the rebel forces.

(Two representatives of the military council declined to comment on the council’s military collaboration or logistical support for Mr. Issa’s group. Mr. Issa could not be reached for comment over two days this week.)

By the spring, his group had taken a resonant name: Jund al-Sham, which it shares with three international terrorist groups, and another group in Syria.

Its relationship — if any — with these other groups is not clear.

Mr. Issa’s former aide and two other men who have met or investigated him said he appears to assume identities of convenience.

But, they said, one of his tactics has been to promise to his fighters what he calls “the extermination” of Alawites — the minority Islamic sect to which the Assad family belongs, and which Mr. Issa blames for Syria’s suffering.

“The Uncle,” as Issa is known, and his group released a celebratory video last week of the execution of seven prisoners they had captured, along with The Uncle’s poem pledging revenge on all Alawites.


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I know I normally save this for economic news or Obamacare news, but…

Wow, who could have seen this coming?

Chris of Rights on September 5, 2013 at 9:22 AM

Mission Save Obama’s Ego must commence, facts be damned.

hillsoftx on September 5, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Yeah, and Putin came out and called Kerry a liar on worldwide television.

BigAlSouth on September 5, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Sure because when I think, moderate, I think AQ. Who doesn’t.

Bmore on September 5, 2013 at 9:26 AM

Remember, regardless of facts this will be a FREE WAR. Kerry said so.

patman77 on September 5, 2013 at 9:26 AM

Here are Kerry’s Moderate Rebels

WisRich on September 5, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Gassing appalls me, but all the GOP tools are jumping in with Obama so I’m leery about this.

Would it be better to stand on the sidelines and let Muslims kill other Muslims for a while?

BuckeyeSam on September 5, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Reuters: Kerry’s sunny estimate of Syrian opposition not backed up by intelligence

I love double-entendres.

Stoic Patriot on September 5, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Lurch must be getting his talking points from Clapper who once claimed the Muslim brotherhood was a secular organization. Least we forget that the adults are in charge.

All Hail!

dmann on September 5, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Lurch’s international perspective from his tax-dodging yacht has been predictably albeit insanely optimistic.

viking01 on September 5, 2013 at 9:32 AM

Mission Save Obama’s Ego must commence, facts be damned.

hillsoftx on September 5, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Why do we need to save his ego anymore, now that we’ve been informed that it was our red line, not his red line that got him into this mess, Ollie? And if that’s true, I’m fine with having my ego deflated.

BuckeyeSam on September 5, 2013 at 9:33 AM

As Gomer Pyle would say, “Surprise, surprise, surprise.”

The intelligence on the “attack” was never authentic.

The intelligence on “moderates” in Syria was fabricated.

The intelligence on the Islamofascist jihadis was intentionally ignored.

The intelligence of the White House is completely a myth.

And, we,the People, are lacking in intelligence?

coldwarrior on September 5, 2013 at 9:33 AM

It is incomprehensibly offensive to think that this entire debacle is merely a bandage for Obama’s tattered reputation. Kerry’s nothing but a partisan lapdog.

BettyRuth on September 5, 2013 at 9:33 AM

Reuters is Racist against black preznits and white wanna be French guys named John.

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Key West Reader on September 5, 2013 at 9:34 AM

However, intelligence from US and European agencies put the radical Islamists near parity in numbers, and far more in control than Kerry and the Obama administration acknowledge:

Whhaaaat??? Kerry and McCain’s little skit the other day made it clear that the rebels, almost to a man, were Jeffersonian democrats traveling door-to-door asking their neighbors if they had heard the good news about democracy.

Fact of the matter is that anybody who supports bombing Syria and/or regime change is really supporting handing Syria over to Islamist terrorists. Not in the US interest at all.

Happy Nomad on September 5, 2013 at 9:34 AM

I heard that part of Kerry’s testimony and couldn’t believe he wasn’t called on it. Why have public hearings if the information that’s made public is a lie and the liar isn’t made to at least squirm?

Bottom line? All politicians know that their constituents are lazy and the politicians take advantage of that.

Vince on September 5, 2013 at 9:34 AM

Speaking of Lurch, he never resorted to Botox to “preserve” his good looks after The Addams Family took off. Kerry’s look is other-worldly.

BuckeyeSam on September 5, 2013 at 9:34 AM

Kerry the One don’t need no stinkin’ intelligence.

Flange on September 5, 2013 at 9:37 AM

but all the GOP tools are jumping in with Obama so I’m leery about this.

Would it be better to stand on the sidelines and let Muslims kill other Muslims for a while?

BuckeyeSam on September 5, 2013 at 9:30 AM

But why? Why are the GOP tools jumping on the bandwagon? Do they know something we don’t? are they war mongers? are they afraid of being on the wrong side of history? What?

BettyRuth on September 5, 2013 at 9:38 AM

Kerry replied: “I just don’t agree that a majority are al Qaeda and the bad guys. That’s not true. There are about 70,000 to 100,000 oppositionists … Maybe 15 percent to 25 percent might be in one group or another who are what we would deem to be bad guys.

Two things:

1) Who says oppositionists?

2) Whatever percent it is that belongs to “one [terrorist-affiliated] group or another,” couldn’t Kerry have the honesty to call them what they are, instead of beating around the bush?

steebo77 on September 5, 2013 at 9:38 AM

+1 hillsoftx

cmsinaz on September 5, 2013 at 9:38 AM

‘There’s no evidence that the Syrian rebels are affiliated with al-Qaeda. You’re just reading that tinfoil hat crap on the internet.’

- Bill O’Reilly, (paraphrased) last night

Man, I hope the biggest, bloody chicken in the world climbed on that pompous, arrogant ass’ face and laid a huge, gooey egg this morning.

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 9:39 AM

Kerry the One don’t need no stinkin’ intelligence.

Flange on September 5, 2013 at 9:37 AM

Would that he’d but a modicum.

coldwarrior on September 5, 2013 at 9:39 AM

Reuters: Kerry’s sunny estimate of Syrian opposition not backed up by intelligence

Well duh! Don’t they realize that anything coming from Kerry’s mouth couldn’t possibly be associated with intelligence?

Oldnuke on September 5, 2013 at 9:40 AM

Two things:

1) Who says oppositionists?

2) Whatever percent it is that belongs to “one [terrorist-affiliated] group or another,” couldn’t Kerry have the honesty to call them what they are, instead of beating around the bush?

steebo77 on September 5, 2013 at 9:38 AM

Old and Busted: Jihadists

New Hotness: Oppositionists

Key West Reader on September 5, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Kerry replied: “I just don’t agree that a majority are al Qaeda and the bad guys. That’s not true. There are about 70,000 to 100,000 oppositionists … Maybe 15 percent to 25 percent might be in one group or another who are what we would deem to be bad guys.

And why are the Syrians fighting to oust a President who represents a majority of the people in Syria? Oh, wait, Assad is an Alawite which represents (along with the Druze) less than 16% of the population.

The problem with your numbers, Mr. Kerry, is not that they are inaccurate, it’s that you rely on quantities and ignore qualities. The bad guys don’t need superior numbers to cow the less-bad guys and take over once their common foe — Assad — is gone.

Dusty on September 5, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Kerry replied: “I just don’t agree that a majority are al Qaeda and the bad guys. That’s not true. There are about 70,000 to 100,000 oppositionists … Maybe 15 percent to 25 percent might be in one group or another who are what we would deem to be bad guys.

Two things:

1) Who says oppositionists?

2) Whatever percent it is that belongs to “one [terrorist-affiliated] group or another,” couldn’t Kerry have the honesty to call them what they are, instead of beating around the bush?

steebo77 on September 5, 2013 at 9:38 AM

The same people who say “freedom fighters”, and “lone wolves”.

ToddPA on September 5, 2013 at 9:43 AM

kingsjester‏@kingsjester1
6 days before 9/11, and Obama wants us to intervene in Syria on behalf of the same Terrorists who killed 3,000 Americans. Is he chooming?

kingsjester on September 5, 2013 at 9:44 AM

Directly behind Hasun on the wall was an Islamic flag, with a pre-Assad Syria FSA flag draped to the side, a nod perhaps to the Salafists. Sitting to his right was a bearded cleric in Salafist garb.

So what, proves nothing. Sure these guys eat the livers from corpses and torture then execute captured Syrian soldiers, but they do so in the name of democracy.

How did it come to this that utter fools such as John Kerry, JOHN FREAKIN’ KERRY, are running the show in this nation; what a clown show.

Bishop on September 5, 2013 at 9:44 AM

Can you guys see I’m wearing my shocked face?

NotCoach on September 5, 2013 at 9:45 AM

Who says oppositionists?

steebo77 on September 5, 2013 at 9:38 AM

People trying to claim that a bunch of Islamic terrorists are just like the Minutemen on the green at Concord or Lexington.

Happy Nomad on September 5, 2013 at 9:45 AM

Kerry replied: “I just don’t agree that a majority are al Qaeda and the bad guys. That’s not true. There are about 70,000 to 100,000 oppositionists … Maybe 15 percent to 25 percent might be in one group or another who are what we would deem to be bad guys.

So it’s only 15 to 25 percent TREASON that he’s advocating for. Got it…

dominigan on September 5, 2013 at 9:48 AM

Two things:

1) Who says oppositionists?

2) Whatever percent it is that belongs to “one [terrorist-affiliated] group or another,” couldn’t Kerry have the honesty to call them what they are, instead of beating around the bush?

steebo77 on September 5, 2013 at 9:38 AM

…or as Christiana Amanpour would say

“the onesies snd twosies”

ToddPA on September 5, 2013 at 9:48 AM

kingsjester‏@kingsjester1
6 days before 9/11, and Obama wants us to intervene in Syria on behalf of the same Terrorists who killed 3,000 Americans. Is he chooming?

kingsjester on September 5, 2013 at 9:44 AM

I’m more worried than ever this year. Perhaps this little “exercise” in Obama is So Tough is to redeem himself and Hillary from Behghazi 9/11 last year?

Something’s up and it stinks.

Key West Reader on September 5, 2013 at 9:48 AM

kingsjester on September 5, 2013 at 9:44 AM

As Father Guido Sarducci said, “Coincidence? I don think so.”

coldwarrior on September 5, 2013 at 9:49 AM

Yup, that terrorist heart-eater was in no way part of the opposition… save that he was part of the opposition… and the guy had no idea if the dead Syrian soldier was even halal. You would think that cannibalism would be decried by the opposition and give pause to anyone thinking of helping them.

Apparently not.

And then there are the places controlled by AQ who have received aid from their Libyan cohorts who have US made MANPADs. You know it doesn’t matter if they are part of an ‘opposition’ or not, they are just freaking dangerous. And fighting the regime which makes them part of the ‘opposition’.

And the people without arms, who are put upon by factions and tyrants and despots? It seems that Sec. Kerry has forgotten about them and has this strange belief that one group of tyrants is better than another. Yet the terrorizing of the population will happen be it in a police state or sharia state. That is your wonderful decision in Syria.

If you want to protect the people of Syria, you know the guys being terrorized by ALL SIDES, then why not ARM THEM? It is their country so let them figure it out. They can enforce CW restraints far better than we can because they know who to go after, how to get to them and only lack the means to do so. Too bad we believe in factions and not in people, huh?

ajacksonian on September 5, 2013 at 9:49 AM

So…Now a Middle-East War is ok as long as the Saudis pay the bill?

Lunatics are pushing this War…The same Lunatics who pushed Obamacare & Amnesty…Targeted conservatives with executive agencies like the IRS…and created the debacles of Fast & Furious and Benghazi.

The stench coming out of Washington DC will choke us all.

workingclass artist on September 5, 2013 at 9:49 AM

2004 leftists

THEY LIED US INTO WAAAAAAAAAR!!1!!

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!1111!

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH11!!

Valkyriepundit on September 5, 2013 at 9:49 AM

6 days before 9/11, and Obama wants us to intervene in Syria on behalf of the same Terrorists who killed 3,000 Americans. Is he chooming?

kingsjester on September 5, 2013 at 9:44 AM

The fact of the matter is that this is history repeating itself. Remember when we were told that Islamists would not take over Libya if we toppled Gaddafi? How the Muslim Brotherhood would never rule in Egypt? Well, this is more of the same.

Happy Nomad on September 5, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Obama does not need Congressional approval to bomb Syria. This is not a vote on war.

Why would the Senate or House even consider voting on this?

faraway on September 5, 2013 at 9:51 AM

Who says oppositionists?

steebo77 on September 5, 2013 at 9:38 AM

That’s reminiscent of something Ghingus John would say.

Flange on September 5, 2013 at 9:51 AM

You know Reuters could’ve saved a lot of type face by simply
printing this headline:

“John Kerry’s a Fu*king Liar”

ToddPA on September 5, 2013 at 9:51 AM

Kerry from the Old North Church
1 If Rebel Fighters

2 If Oppositionists

docflash on September 5, 2013 at 9:52 AM

Is the White House following the intelligence of its own agencies and that of its allies?

Don’t blame our intelligence agencies. I know someone who was once part of the apparatus. They know that Syria is made up of three sides, Assad, Al-Qaeda, and the Muslim Brotherhood. There is no serious faction that is not aligned with one of those three sides.

Which would now beg the questions, why are Democrat garbage lying about this and why are so many Republicans going along?

MNHawk on September 5, 2013 at 9:53 AM

The stench coming out of Washington DC will choke us all.

workingclass artist on September 5, 2013 at 9:49 AM

My Congressman came out this morning and said that he’s supporting bombing because he wants to support Obama. That’s right, innocent Syrians (and possibly US Sailors) have to die for Obama.

It seems horrible to say but at this point, with it all being about Obama, I want innocent people to die. I want our warships attacked by Syria. I want to stuff the reality of the situation down the throat of partisan tools like Jim Moran when they can no longer deny that there are some things in the world far more important than Barak effing Obama.

Happy Nomad on September 5, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Call your congressmen and congresswomen and senators today and tell them, “NO! HELL NO!”

maryo on September 5, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Which would now beg the questions, why are Democrat garbage lying about this and why are so many Republicans going along?

MNHawk on September 5, 2013 at 9:53 AM

Why? Two words. Barak Obama. Two other words. Red Line.

The filthy thin-skinned rat’s credibilty and the whole Arab Spring myth are on the line. Dems want bomb for Obama. Wy any Republican would agree to go along with it is beyong my understanding but I hope they all get primaried.

Happy Nomad on September 5, 2013 at 9:58 AM

Reuters: Kerry’s sunny estimate of Syrian opposition not backed up by intelligence

Still an accurate headline.

There Goes the Neighborhood on September 5, 2013 at 10:00 AM

The very best part of all of this is back in the time of Nasser, there was the idea of building a Pan-Arab Republic and it was going to start with… Egypt and Syria!

Now which group is it that was in power and got ousted in Egypt recently?

Why the MB!

And which organization is it that is supporting the ‘rebels’?

Why the MB!

And HAMAS by its own charter is an armed wing of what organization?

Why the MB!

Yes, its almost like there was a plan there, or something… now just how tight a grip do the Sauds have on the MB? And since KSA has to be in on any big funding scheme, just how likely are they to want to let the MB take the credit and the country called Syria?

And why, exactly, do we want to help any of these people?

ajacksonian on September 5, 2013 at 10:01 AM

Reuters: Kerry’s sunny estimate of Syrian opposition not backed up by intelligence

What intelligence? Like knowledge of what is going on in the conflict or Kerry’s intelligence?

Dr. Frank Enstine on September 5, 2013 at 10:01 AM

NO surprise, is it? Who is paying the bills for the rebels? Saudis and Qatar, isn’t it? And we’re surprised that the people gaining control are radical Islamists and not western democrats? Look at what the Saudis put in the mosques here. Of COURSE they’re paying the bills for people like themselves!

And now we’re being roped into it.

Started a petition. Emailed my rep and both senators. And for the first time in my life I’m seriously considering participating in an antiwar protest. Somewhere in hell they’re breaking out the cold weather gear …

pendell2 on September 5, 2013 at 10:02 AM

The Obama administration can’t give any kind of coherent explanation of what went wrong at Benghazi, but they tell us that they know definitively that their as-of-yet unrevealed strategy in Syria will work. John Boehner and Eric Cantor may have already buckled at the knees, but Republican Congressman Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.) wants a few answers about Benghazi before he gives the thumbs up to any new military adventures.

Jeff Duncan & Ty Woods

“The administration has a serious credibility issue with the American people,” Duncan said, “due to unanswered questions surrounding the terrorist attack in Benghazi almost a year ago.”

“Bottom line is there’s a need for accountability and trust-building from the administration,” he said. “The administration has a credibility issue.”

“Mr. Kerry, your predecessor asked, ‘What difference does it make now?’” he continued, referring then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s infamous hearing outburst earlier this year. “Well, this is the difference, Mr. Secretary.”

“These issues call into question the accountability of this administration,” Duncan said. “Its commitment to the personnel on the ground, and the judgment that it uses when, making these determinations. The American people deserve answers before they move forward talking about military involvement in Syria.”

Duncan then produced a small photo of U.S. Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods, one of the four Americans killed Sept. 11, 2012 at the U.S. diplomatic outpost in Benghazi, Libya.

“America deserves answers before we send another man or woman the caliber of Ty Woods in harm’s way especially in another country’s civil war,” the congressman said….”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/09/republican-congressman-goes-after-john-kerry-hard-on-benghazi-during-syria-hearing/

workingclass artist on September 5, 2013 at 10:04 AM

I just get the feeling WR Hearst is running this thing.

tim c on September 5, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Why would the Senate or House even consider voting on this?

faraway on September 5, 2013 at 9:51 AM

Political cover for lazy stupid bastard in the White House.

The only thing missing, since the President is a thin-skinned Democrat bastard, is accusations that US foreign policy is being dictated by the Jews. Which must be a relief for the anti-Semites in this administration of which Kerry and Hagel are two of the more rabid Jew-haters.

Happy Nomad on September 5, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Man, I hope the biggest, bloody chicken in the world climbed on that pompous, arrogant ass’ face and laid a huge, gooey egg this morning.

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 9:39 AM

Point of order; how could we tell the difference?

Steve Eggleston on September 5, 2013 at 10:07 AM

And, we,the People, are lacking in intelligence?

coldwarrior on September 5, 2013 at 9:33 AM

52% of us clearly are.

AZCoyote on September 5, 2013 at 10:07 AM

“his supporting data is rather suspect”

Not to nitpick here Ed but shouldn’t it read, his supporting data are rather suspect.

TampaBayBull on September 5, 2013 at 10:07 AM

I just get the feeling WR Hearst is running this thing.

tim c on September 5, 2013 at 10:04 AM

This Comment of the Day™ would have been brought to you by The History Channel…if it were still doing history.

Steve Eggleston on September 5, 2013 at 10:08 AM

Little did the people know that back in 1971, when John F’n Kerry “testified” under oath to Congress, Kerry blew an opportunity to end the war years before it finally ended?

Kerry shows up on Capitol Hill, in 1971, wearing grungy miss-matched non-regulation “jungles” long hair, unkempt, with ribbons/medals affixed to a fatigue/utility uniform…as a commissioned officer in the US Navy Reserve still…not a properly discharged civilian. [The record, what we can find of it shows Kerry did not complete his service obligation until circa '73.]

Kerry then lies to Congress about almost everything he said.

All of it opinion…not one fact presented…because if Kerry presented fact, such as the cutting off of ears and such, as a commissioned officer under the UCMJ, he would have been held culpable for war crimes, if he had presented facts that he directly observed.

Why?

Not one shred of evidence that Kerry at any point at any time at any place in Vietnam tried to stop any of it.

But, I digress…as usual…

How could Kerry have stopped the war a lot earlier?

Show up on Capitol Hill, in proper uniform, clean, shaved, regulation haircut, and presented fact…not opinion, but fact, if such existed.

He did not.

Would not.

Could not.

Had he done so, in uniform, under oath, provided facts, verifiable facts, it may have opened up a floodgate and every My Lai, every incident of Command ignoring war crimes, and all the rest would have been made public a lot sooner than it eventually was.

In that interim, a lot of good and decent young men were sacrificed while the insane clown posse of the anti-war movement was allowed to do whatever the hell they wanted to do.

Kerry lied out his butt in 1971…loudly…proudly…with fairly correct use of the English language.

He is doing exactly, precisely, the same today.

He is lying, under oath, to Congress.

Offering opinion, and not one verifiable fact. He is lying.

Seems a long lived pattern with Kerry.

This is the man we permitted to represent the United States to the rest of the world?

coldwarrior on September 5, 2013 at 10:08 AM

Oppositionists

Al-Qaeda Promises To Slaughter Christians After Obama Helps Topple Assad…

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/09/04/al-qaeda-promises-to-slaughter-christians-after-obama-helps-topple-assad/

workingclass artist on September 5, 2013 at 10:09 AM

Not to nitpick here Ed but shouldn’t it read, his supporting data are rather suspect.

TampaBayBull on September 5, 2013 at 10:07 AM

If Ed was British (or in the British vernacular, “were”), yes.

Steve Eggleston on September 5, 2013 at 10:10 AM

This is like the boy who cried wolf.

I have no problem with punisihing Assad, but….

With the parade of documented half-truths told by this admin: Fast & Furious, Afghanastan, Ft. Hood, Bengazi, IRS, NSA, wtc., etc., etc., how can I believe them now?

Deafdog on September 5, 2013 at 10:10 AM

Al-Qaeda Promises To Slaughter Christians After Obama Helps Topple Assad…

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/09/04/al-qaeda-promises-to-slaughter-christians-after-obama-helps-topple-assad/

workingclass artist on September 5, 2013 at 10:09 AM

That is going to seal the deal for intervention for Teh SCOAMT and McShame.

Steve Eggleston on September 5, 2013 at 10:11 AM

Moderates

“Video: Syrian Rebels Fire Gas Canister At Hospital With “Allah’s Permission”…

(New footage from September 3, 2013 shows militants from the “Free Syrian Army” (FSA) using blue canisters/cylinders filled with an unknown gas mounted on top of shells fired on Syrian Army targets in different areas of Aleppo that are still under the control of the Syrian military.)

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/09/04/video-syrian-rebels-fire-gas-canister-at-hospital-with-allahs-permission/

workingclass artist on September 5, 2013 at 10:14 AM

workingclass artist on September 5, 2013 at 10:09 AM

But, according to our geniuses over at State and Defense and in the JCS suite…there is no al-Qaeda in Syria…they are just oppositionists…you know, freedom fighters.

But, al-Qaeda?

Balderdash.

coldwarrior on September 5, 2013 at 10:14 AM

workingclass artist on September 5, 2013 at 10:14 AM

But, but, but Team SCOAMT and their presstitute organs assured me that it was only Assad that was using poison gas.

Steve Eggleston on September 5, 2013 at 10:18 AM

Secretary of State John Kerry’s public assertions that moderate Syrian opposition groups are growing in influence appear to be at odds with estimates by U.S. and European intelligence sources

It all depends on what you call a “moderate” in that part of the world.

Dems seem to think any Islamist that is not a made member of al Qaeda is some kind of “moderate”. If they aren’t chopping heads off or blowing themselves up in a crowd they are “moderates”.

Since Comrade O did not back the Iranian Green Movement he must view both they and the Iranian government as both “moderates”, right?

farsighted on September 5, 2013 at 10:19 AM

workingclass artist on September 5, 2013 at 10:14 AM

If the “moderate” scum of the FSA will fire gas filled projectiles on a hospital…then why not fire the same on a neighborhood filled with a rival faction…such as, maybe, a suburb in south east Damascus?

If the FSA is firing “gas” projectiles/munitions…isn’t that what Team Obama said was a “red line?”

I loathe this President…and even more so his clown Secretary of State.

coldwarrior on September 5, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Kerry has no shame with his ways of making up things and flat out lying as he discusses a topic.

albill on September 5, 2013 at 10:23 AM

workingclass artist on September 5, 2013 at 10:09 AM

But, according to our geniuses over at State and Defense and in the JCS suite…there is no al-Qaeda in Syria…they are just oppositionists…you know, freedom fighters.

But, al-Qaeda?

Balderdash.

coldwarrior on September 5, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Because Moderates execute captured enemy cut their hearts out of their chests and eat them for the video camera to become Jihadi Youtube Stars.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/09/oh-my-ny-times-notes-the-brutality-from-syrian-rebels/

workingclass artist on September 5, 2013 at 10:23 AM

If the “moderate” scum of the FSA will fire gas filled projectiles on a hospital…then why not fire the same on a neighborhood filled with a rival faction…such as, maybe, a suburb in south east Damascus?

If the FSA is firing “gas” projectiles/munitions…isn’t that what Team Obama said was a “red line?”

I loathe this President…and even more so his clown Secretary of State.

coldwarrior on September 5, 2013 at 10:23 AM

This whole deal is a load of Crapola engineered by a roomful of incompetent asses supported by cynical politicians who don’t give one iota for the Syrian civilians caught up in another Jihadi regional push…for their own country and the citizens they were elected to represent…the US Constitution or the Military fighting to protect that Constitution.

There is no clear objective or plan or strategy beyond manipulation of the US Citizenry by a bunch of liars posturing before an election season.

workingclass artist on September 5, 2013 at 10:30 AM

workingclass artist on September 5, 2013 at 10:23 AM

You, you, you and your precious little facts, stupid little facts, dumb retarded facts…what is with all you guys on the lunatic right…fact, fact, fact…like you can never ever not once form your own opinion about anything without having to rely on your stupid little facts. /s/

[Added the sarc tag...just to make sure...]

coldwarrior on September 5, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Putin handed Obama his ass at the summit…announcing discussion of Syria as part of the agenda.

I guess that’s what bored kids sitting at the back of the classroom do to Nobel Peace Prize winners…eh?

Sheesh!….It’s gonna be a long 3 years of a lame duck presidency with never-ending lies,propaganda and weekly crisis manufactured by the media in cahoots with a “No-Drama Obama” isn’t it?

workingclass artist on September 5, 2013 at 10:36 AM

By the spring, his group had taken a resonant name: Jund al-Sham, which it shares with three international terrorist groups, and another group in Syria.

So, in other words, this guy could be Patrick Henry, or he could be Mao Zedong, and we have no clue. It’s quite possible that he has no clue which one he is, or even that he cares not a whit.

And we’re preparing to act as this man’s air force.

Private Pyle, you have got to be sh**ting me!!

JohnGalt23 on September 5, 2013 at 10:37 AM

You, you, you and your precious little facts, stupid little facts, dumb retarded facts…what is with all you guys on the lunatic right…fact, fact, fact…like you can never ever not once form your own opinion about anything without having to rely on your stupid little facts. /s/

[Added the sarc tag...just to make sure...]

coldwarrior on September 5, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Facts Schmacts. This isn’t about facts. Our dear leader has been insulted by an 11-year-old Syrian. All Americans must come together and support the bombing of innocent civilians in Syria because we can’t have our President being laughed at. It is positively unpatriotic not to push for killing Syrians. /

[added the sarc tag for clarification, but the above comment isn't too far off the "case" being made by the same mouth-breathing morons who were anti-war when Bush was in office]

Happy Nomad on September 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM

Don’t be too hard on Kerry . . . judging by its gross contortions, his face is obviously in great pain.

rplat on September 5, 2013 at 10:39 AM

Putin handed Obama his ass at the summit…announcing discussion of Syria as part of the agenda.

workingclass artist on September 5, 2013 at 10:36 AM

The G-20 summit……. 19 world leaders and one thin-skinned rat.

Happy Nomad on September 5, 2013 at 10:40 AM

I just get the feeling WR Hearst is running this thing.

tim c on September 5, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Really? I get the feeling this thing is being run by Richard M Nixon.

Sans Kissinger, or course…

JohnGalt23 on September 5, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Sheesh!….It’s gonna be a long 3 years of a lame duck presidency with never-ending lies,propaganda and weekly crisis manufactured by the media in cahoots with a “No-Drama Obama” isn’t it?

workingclass artist on September 5, 2013 at 10:36 AM

You’re assuming we’re going to make it to 2017. The Middle East will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.

Dammit, I wish Fred! would have had the fire in the belly back in the day.

Steve Eggleston on September 5, 2013 at 10:44 AM

The G-20 summit……. 19 world leaders and one thin-skinned rat.

Happy Nomad on September 5, 2013 at 10:40 AM

The G-20 Summit is catered by ObamiPizza – Chicago’s only thin crust.

Steve Eggleston on September 5, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Putin handed Obama his ass at the summit…announcing discussion of Syria as part of the agenda.

I guess that’s what bored kids sitting at the back of the classroom do to Nobel Peace Prize winners…eh?

Sheesh!….It’s gonna be a long 3 years of a lame duck presidency with never-ending lies,propaganda and weekly crisis manufactured by the media in cahoots with a “No-Drama Obama” isn’t it?

workingclass artist on September 5, 2013 at 10:36 AM

It’s amazing that we have to look to Vlad the Impaler to do the work that the Republican House and the Media should be doing. Go Vlad!

RobertMN on September 5, 2013 at 10:46 AM

If anyone needs to waste their precious time, watch, re-watch the proceedings on C-SPAN and count the number of time John Forbes Kerry (he served in Vietnam you know) begins…

“With respect to ….”

I’d noticed it previously, but there must have been near dozens of instances of his peculiar intellectual tell in the recent hearings.

mickytx on September 5, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Man, I hope the biggest, bloody chicken in the world climbed on that pompous, arrogant ass’ face and laid a huge, gooey egg this morning.

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 9:39 AM

Point of order; how could we tell the difference?

Steve Eggleston on September 5, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Touché, but I was so incensed that I actually emailed him, which is something that I’ve done to telly-holes maybe 4 or 5 times combined in my entire life.

I’ve never been a fan of or even ardent watcher of the blowhard, but he just made me blow my top last night.

To: Bill O’Reilly
From: Sophie
Subject: I’m Done.

…And, here I thought last night was bad enough. You remember, don’t you? You said people like me opposed the Syrian intervention because we have a visceral hatred of Barack Obama.

Yeppers, Billo, you got me. I admit it. I am against the Syrian intervention because of Obama. He was the reason that I opposed the Afghan ground war and the Iraq war, too, even though I had never heard of him.

Anyhoo, I thought last night was bad…until tonight.

You’re treatment of Kirsten Powers and Kate Obershain was repulsive. Your interview also exposed that not only are you incredibly arrogant, but you are extraordinarily ignorant as well.

IT. IS. A. KNOWN. FACT. THAT. AL-NUSRA. IS. AFFILIATED. WITH. AL-QAEDA. AND. THE. MUSLIM. BROTHERHOOD.

Period.

Story.

End of.

Here, educate yourself and enjoy the photos of some of the atrocities committed by your, Kerry and McCain’s ‘moderate’ rebels.

America Has No National Interests In Syria & There’s No Guarantee That Our Intervention Will Make Things Any Better…For Anyone.

You and I have had a on-and-off, years-long relationship, but after tonight, it is over.

I’m just no longer that into you.

Sincerely,

Sophie

Of course, it won’t have any effect on the bâtard, but it made me feel better. I sent it immediately after the exchange and turned off the telly.

PS: Do you know with whom I replaced BOR last night? Sit down ‘cuz it’s so funny that I would love to see Bill0′s pompous face…

ALEX JONES!!!

LOL! But, you know my saying:

‘I listen to the nutter, Alex Jones, periodically so my readers don’t have to!’

I mean, how else would you know that juice boxes can make you gay?

lmao

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 11:12 AM

“I’m John Kerry, and I’m…I’m reporting for duty!” The dumbest opening remarks ever stated by a party’s nominated candidate for president. Everybody knew that he hated the military, and there he was pretending otherwise. Democrats just eat this crap up. Whoever thought that a guy who obviously chases rich widows and slimes his fellow soldiers could be elected president should have their heads examined.

HiJack on September 5, 2013 at 11:21 AM

Poor Comrade O.

He has a perfect plan for what to do in Syria. But he cannot execute it because of what Boooooooosh did in Iraq. It is Bush’s Fault the American public is skeptical.

Of course, Dear Leader’s plan for Syria is super secret and he can’t tell us what it is. Doing so could ruin it. That’s probably Bush’s Fault, too.

And I suppose Darth Cheney must be pulling some strings behind the scenes as well. Opposition to Dear Leaders’s super secret plan for Syria must be in part his fault, too.

Bush and Cheney are Comrade O’s boogiemen. They haunt him constantly. Wherever he looks and turns their presence is palpable. They are under his bed, in his closet, hiding in every shadow, and around every corner.

Poor, poor Dear Leader. Almost the whole world is against his brilliant super secret plan for Syria and it is Bush’s Fault.

farsighted on September 5, 2013 at 11:23 AM

t’s amazing that we have to look to Vlad the Impaler to do the work that the Republican House and the Media should be doing. Go Vlad!

RobertMN on September 5, 2013 at 10:46 AM

What’s even more amazing is that anyone on this site (who’s not a troll) would be rooting for Putin, but that’s where the Marxist-in-Chief has led us. That rat-eared, dog-eating, lying liar of a muslim turd. (Sorry, but I can’t say what I really feel about this POS, because I’d be banned for life.)

HiJack on September 5, 2013 at 11:27 AM

It’s amazing that we have to look to Vlad the Impaler to do the work that the Republican House and the Media should be doing. Go Vlad!

RobertMN on September 5, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Putin is a Bastard and Obama is doing everything he can to elevate Putin to Global Statesman.

So there it is…and saving Obama’s incompetent ass or soothing his bruised ego aint’ worth our soldiers getting gassed or tortured or eaten when they’re captured for a Youtube video…Nope!

Hope & Change…It’s what’s for breakfast

workingclass artist on September 5, 2013 at 11:29 AM

You, you, you and your precious little facts, stupid little facts, dumb retarded facts…what is with all you guys on the lunatic right…fact, fact, fact…like you can never ever not once form your own opinion about anything without having to rely on your stupid little facts. /s/

[Added the sarc tag...just to make sure...]

coldwarrior on September 5, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Jesus, warrior, for a minute there I thought you had gone full libtard…

HiJack on September 5, 2013 at 11:32 AM

‘There’s no evidence that the Syrian rebels are affiliated with al-Qaeda. You’re just reading that tinfoil hat crap on the internet.’

– Bill O’Reilly, (paraphrased) last night

Man, I hope the biggest, bloody chicken in the world climbed on that pompous, arrogant ass’ face and laid a huge, gooey egg this morning.

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 9:39 AM

It doesn’t surprise me the arrogant blowhard would say something like that.

I gave up on that self-promoting clown and self-appointed self-described populist standard bearer a long time ago.

It wouldn’t surprise me if he was saying the same thing in the days after the Benghazi disaster.

farsighted on September 5, 2013 at 11:32 AM

What’s even more amazing is that anyone on this site (who’s not a troll) would be rooting for Putin, but that’s where the Marxist-in-Chief has led us. That rat-eared, dog-eating, lying liar of a muslim turd. (Sorry, but I can’t say what I really feel about this POS, because I’d be banned for life.)

HiJack on September 5, 2013 at 11:27 AM

I’m not rootin for Putin.

Putin is there so Assad will continue to aid him in his blackmail of Europe…China and Iran have their own reasons for this evil alliance.

That said…Pimping our Military to aid AQ at the behest of the Saudis in another chapter of Sunni vs. Shia when both of these factions have the same goals is stupid.

They will all unite in the end against the infidel and Israel.

workingclass artist on September 5, 2013 at 11:34 AM

I loathe this President…and even more so his clown Secretary of State.

coldwarrior on September 5, 2013 at 10:23 AM

It’s starting to get confusing which clown is which. We got the Obama clown, the Kerry clown, the Howard Dean clown, the Debbie W-S clown, the Pelosi clown, and on and on and on. It’s a regular three ring circus. Time to invest in popcorn.

HiJack on September 5, 2013 at 11:36 AM

workingclass artist on September 5, 2013 at 11:34 AM

Wrong choice of words; I didn’t really mean that you were actually rooting for Putin. That would be sick.

HiJack on September 5, 2013 at 11:38 AM

I mean, how else would you know that juice boxes can make you gay?

lmao

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 11:12 AM

They don’t call it fruit juice for nothing. :-)

Flange on September 5, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Kerry looks/acts like a horse’s azz.

The entire world has two turds on display, in full view.

Schadenfreude on September 5, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Watched the replay of the towers tumbling down last night.

And now we see that we joined them/AQ in the fight AGAINST us.

If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em, I guess?

Carnac on September 5, 2013 at 11:45 AM

I loathe this President…and even more so his clown Secretary of State.

coldwarrior on September 5, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Add the RINO’s to that list.

Carnac on September 5, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Incredible read about the ‘Smart Power’.

Schadenfreude on September 5, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Weasels of the Left, not one troll, defending their oaf in chief…not one…

Schadenfreude on September 5, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Putin and obama are thugs of the world.

Putin is respected.

This is a true story. The two were at a gathering a while ago and the gym had only so many machines. Putin got there when obama had already taken the last one.

Putin to the media “follow me”. He went into icy cold water, with ice all around, swimming, cameras all on him…

Imagine this of weasely eunuch obama…never…the bully Putin beats him every time, then asks for obama to pay for lunch.

Schadenfreude on September 5, 2013 at 11:57 AM

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