Kerry on Syrian rebels’ brutality: It’ll get worse if we don’t intervene

posted at 8:01 pm on September 5, 2013 by Allahpundit

Drudge has been killing the White House all day by spotlighting that harrowing NYT story about the rebels that Ed blogged this morning, and now here’s Kerry’s response. If you’re worried about Al Qaeda and its jihadi partners like Jabhat al-Nusra running wild, then you should … support a U.S. attack on their enemy Assad. Wait, what? Sure, says Kerry: Only if the U.S. empowers “moderate” rebels like the Free Syrian Army — whose leadership, by the way, is falling apart — will there be an alternative for people who want Assad gone but don’t want fundamentalists to replace him. Never mind that Reuters reported months ago that jihadi groups were successfully sidelining the moderate elements within the rebel ranks and confiscating their weapons. And never mind that, as of just four months ago, the Times famously reported that there was really no such thing as a secular fighting force in rebel-controlled Syria. Evidently we’re going to find, or build, one and then somehow elevate it to prominence over battle-tested jihadi outfits like the Nusra Front.

But wait. How broad is this intervention going to be? The point of the attack, I thought, was to punch Assad hard in the face for gassing people in Damascus, enough so that he thinks twice about doing it again. What Kerry’s suggesting here goes beyond that, well into McCain territory. If the goal now is to secularize the Syrian opposition, then we’re not just talking about bloodying the regime’s nose. We’re talking necessarily about weakening the jihadi rebels too while the “moderates” gain strength. That means taking on both sides. Are we simultaneously going to bomb the army to try to force Assad to the bargaining table while also droning Nusraites until they sue for peace too? If not, if this is all going to be done theoretically by arming the “moderates” until they can hold their own with jihadis, what happens if the jihadis attack them and gain the upper hand? Do we intervene then to influence the rebel civil war within a civil war? And in that case, if the rebels start killing each other, whose job will it be to take the fight to Assad?

Hayes makes a good point towards the end of the clip. The administration’s selling this war simultaneously as something modest to attract doves (just a limited attack to enforce the international taboo against WMD) and something ambitious to attract hawks (a game-changing operation to alter the momentum on the battlefield). Which is it? How can it be both? And what happens if the U.S. hits Assad so hard that the jihadis start to overrun the Syrian military before the “moderates” are strong enough to challenge them? If you think the rebels are brutal now, wait until they charge into Alawite and Christian neighborhoods with no fear of an army intervening to push them back.

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These people are dissolving into total incoherence. I suspect it’s intentional. As many Americans are emotional infants incapable of entertaining clashing thoughts in their heads, maybe the goal is simply to appeal to the emotional chord of the day. Tomorrow, another.

But why is this action so seemingly, insanely important to Obama. We know he doesn’t care about the Syrians as people. I mean, by and large they’re not gay and can’t vote for him. So is it ALL about his credibility?

rrpjr on September 5, 2013 at 9:05 PM

That made me laugh.

workingclass artist on September 5, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Happy Nomad on September 5, 2013 at 8:42 PM

This has nothing to do with Iraq as far as I’m concerned. I trusted that administration, I don’t trust this one. They lost their credibility a long time ago and furthermore, if they really had humanitarian issues at heart, they should have done something long ago. 100,000 dead, millions in refugee camps over 2 years.

scalleywag on September 5, 2013 at 9:17 PM

Assad is a bastard…but perhaps the lesser bastard where the Christians are concerned.

What does that remind me of…Oh yeah…Mubarak or something

workingclass artist on September 5, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Exactly, and who except a bastard could rule a place like Syria?

sharrukin on September 5, 2013 at 9:09 PM

Generations of Tribal Inbreeding throughout a region most folks ignored until they found Oil.

workingclass artist on September 5, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Who would you side with in this – the people who were oppressing your relatives a bit or the people who are outright murdering your relatives?

dentarthurdent on September 5, 2013 at 9:01 PM

If they were around today German Jews in the 1920s and 1930s might add some perspective to this thought.

Happy Nomad on September 5, 2013 at 9:18 PM

rrpjr on September 5, 2013 at 9:05 PM

So hysterically funny and yet so fricking sad to think that dear leader has sunk so low…

I am ashamed he is the preznident…

Scrumpy on September 5, 2013 at 9:19 PM

I’ve always hated them damn moderate forces.

I say we take advantage of this moderately free war, go moderately All-America all over their moderate azzes, and thus we’ll moderately have a safer yet more moderate USA.

It’ll be secular. I mean sectacular!!!

Free WAR!!! Wooo hooo.

patman77 on September 5, 2013 at 9:20 PM

This is the kind of crap we get when we elect statists to seats of power. We are so screwed if the GOP doesn’t retake the Senate.

HiJack on September 5, 2013 at 9:21 PM

o/t

Old & Busted:

‘Think of an economy where people could be an artist or a photographer or a writer without worrying about keeping their day job in order to have health insurance.’

- Nancy Pelosi, 2010

New Hotness:

REPORT: Artists, photographers, writers to lose coverage under Obamacare…

Can’t. Make. It. Up.

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Why the long face, Thurston?

Del Dolemonte on September 5, 2013 at 9:22 PM

“We can’t go to war to spare anyone embarrassment,” Grayson told U.S. News. “That would be utterly immoral, we’re talking about shedding American blood. … The president has already made that argument and it’s falling on deaf ears.”

I have agreed with both Dennis Kucinich and Alan Grayson within the space of a week. Surreal.

Firefly_76 on September 5, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Hey Kerry you and I were around during the Vietnam days, don’t you feel stupid or ashamed to now be taking the LBJ position with respect to Syria? Has your entire life been a fraud?

steveracer on September 5, 2013 at 9:25 PM

This has nothing to do with Iraq as far as I’m concerned. I trusted that administration, I don’t trust this one. They lost their credibility a long time ago and furthermore, if they really had humanitarian issues at heart, they should have done something long ago. 100,000 dead, millions in refugee camps over 2 years.

scalleywag on September 5, 2013 at 9:17 PM

I guess I wasn’t as clear as I should have been.

The left is seeking credibilty for killing innocent Syrians in 2013 because the US invaded Iraq in 2003. I’m having none of that comparison.

Happy Nomad on September 5, 2013 at 9:25 PM

I have agreed with both Dennis Kucinich and Alan Grayson within the space of a week. Surreal.

Firefly_76 on September 5, 2013 at 9:23 PM

I’ll add Vlad Putin to the list.

rrpjr on September 5, 2013 at 9:26 PM

oh, here’s a feel good story

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4426415,00.html

The rebels launched the assault on the ancient Christian village of Maaloula – which is on a UNESCO list of tentative world heritage sites – on Wednesday after an al-Nusra fighter blew himself up at a regime checkpoint at the entrance to the mountain village. The village, about 40 miles (60 kilometers) northeast of Damascus, is home to about 2,000 residents, some of whom still speak a version of Aramaic, the ancient language of biblical times believed to have been spoken by Jesus.

right…and the Assad government is fighting these guys. And we’re on the good side…wait…who’s side??

Maybe McCain better start reading some newspapers

r keller on September 5, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Has your entire life been a fraud?

steveracer on September 5, 2013 at 9:25 PM

In a nutshell – YES.

dentarthurdent on September 5, 2013 at 9:30 PM

I am ashamed he is the preznident…

Scrumpy on September 5, 2013 at 9:19 PM

NOW? I’ve been there since November of 2008.

HA hailed the victory of Obama as a new era. We had to put aside our qualms of his shady background and stated goals and hail him as our leader. Just to be fair.

For the first time in my life I’m ashamed to be an American.

Happy Nomad on September 5, 2013 at 9:30 PM

rrpjr on September 5, 2013 at 9:26 PM

LOL tru dat.

Firefly_76 on September 5, 2013 at 9:31 PM

I have agreed with both Dennis Kucinich and Alan Grayson within the space of a week. Surreal.

Firefly_76 on September 5, 2013 at 9:23 PM

I’ll add Vlad Putin to the list.

rrpjr on September 5, 2013 at 9:26 PM

Yup – What rabbit hole did we fall through where Putin and Pravda appear more trustworthy than our own politicians and media???

dentarthurdent on September 5, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Serious question. Would anyone listen to this baying turd if he were shiny bald?

Mason on September 5, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Serious question. Would anyone listen to this baying turd if he were shiny bald?

Mason on September 5, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Yes, Bayam would.

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Karma is such a bytch.

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 9:34 PM

What karma?
So far there has been no real backlash and no consequences for these people.

dentarthurdent on September 5, 2013 at 9:37 PM

Yes, Bayam would.

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Speaking of, I still have yet to see a single troll on any of these Syria threads. I could have missed it. Why aren’t they here defending all the ‘humanitarian’ progressives with war-boners?

Firefly_76 on September 5, 2013 at 9:41 PM

So far there has been no real backlash and no consequences for these people.

dentarthurdent on September 5, 2013 at 9:37 PM

It’s happening now. The world – outside of people like us – sat there yesterday scratching its collective head as Obama claimed he didn’t draw a redline and was shocked, stunned, and appalled.

The American people don’t have Obama’s back on this one either, which has got to be frightening to the WH.

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 9:49 PM

Yacht boy speaketh. So he married a woman who married for money. What does that make him? Yacht boy!

RobertMN on September 5, 2013 at 9:49 PM

NO BLOOD FOR OIL Mr. Heinz-Kerry!!!!

Ask him about the Qatar pipeline that they want to run through Syria!!

Ask him about Gazprom, Israel, what about the pipeline Iran wants to build through Syria?

Lurch and the rest of the Ruling Class (both parties) ARE LYING TOO US!!!!

No Americans fighting in Syria for Oil (or Natural Gas/LNG).

PappyD61 on September 5, 2013 at 9:53 PM

Personally, I think we ought to be sending emissaries to Assad and whatever portion of the rebels are kind of squeaky clean moderate-wise, and broker some truce between the two while also having both of them agree to turn on the Islamists in blitzkrieg fashion and wipe them out. Any combination of money, arms, dirty deals with Russia to get the two to negotiate later and maybe secure the C/B weapons.

I am concerned about the C/B weapons but I’m just as concerned about the bloodletting these Islamic fanatics are capable of if the government falls and the ‘moderate’ rebels ought to be, too.

Dusty on September 5, 2013 at 9:55 PM

someone……ANYONE…….in the media ask the liars about this!

http://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/Middle-East/Qatars-Agenda-in-Syria.html

PappyD61 on September 5, 2013 at 9:55 PM

It’s happening now. The world – outside of people like us – sat there yesterday scratching its collective head as Obama claimed he didn’t draw a redline and was shocked, stunned, and appalled.

The American people don’t have Obama’s back on this one either, which has got to be frightening to the WH.

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 9:49 PM

OK, but is anyone calling for impeachment? Is anyone calling for resignations? Is anyone calling for indictments?
They may be (further) shooting their own international credibility in the foot, but so far there are still no real consequences, as they continue to further drive their own citizens into the gutter.

dentarthurdent on September 5, 2013 at 9:56 PM

McCain is insane and so is Kerry if he believes his own nonsense.

VorDaj on September 5, 2013 at 9:56 PM

Oh, cabana boy?

Terrayzza is calling.

Now, there is a job you can handle.

Your current one?

Gonna have to let you go when your probation period is up.

Sorry.

It is clear you’d be best suited to slathering sun screen on older women.

This slathering horse dung on American citizens, not going to cut it.

coldwarrior on September 5, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Even the NYT is reporting on this.

And still crickets from the broadcast media.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/30/world/middleeast/sending-missiles-to-syrian-rebels-qatar-muscles-in.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

And Lurch can still sit there and lie for Obama just like Susan Rice did over that YouTube video.

Even the DOTUS lied at the UN about that video so I guess no surprise Lurch would do it too.

PappyD61 on September 5, 2013 at 10:03 PM

someone……ANYONE…….in the media ask the liars about this!

http://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/Middle-East/Qatars-Agenda-in-Syria.html

PappyD61 on September 5, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Welllll, nothing wrong with the US going to war for a little ole Arab oil pipeline, just don’t talk about evil oil pipelines in the US – like Keystone……..

dentarthurdent on September 5, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Dam Lurch… I C ya no longer standing on the graves of all them 9/11 victims and have taken to spit’n on the grave.

I’m sure the last thing on their minds as the swan dove from the twin towers was …. the American GubRmint was gonna help their killaz overthrow another GubRmint

roflmmfao

donabernathy on September 5, 2013 at 10:28 PM

Now is when the country should be papered with the G.W.Bush “Miss Me Yet?” billboards.

BobMbx on September 5, 2013 at 10:40 PM

I hope people will come to realize what this “dog and pony” show is really all about. I don’t think the POTUS expected the rebels to gas the women and children, but this culture of rebel barbarians don’t care about human life. Everything, and I mean everything, is all about pleasing Allah. We have Muslim barbarians in this country that will kill their wives and children at the drop of a pin if they become “too Westernized”, thereby insulting the Prophet. But the POTUS and those surrounding him saw this issue as an outstanding opportunity for the 2014 midterm elections by playing a game of cat and mouse.

There will be no military intervention and that was the plan all along. Obama will be hailed as a hero, someone who listened to the will of the American people as Congress shot down the approval for a strike. Kerry will perform his Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde trick as he “trusts the POTUS and “respects” his decision not to go it alone against the will of the American people and the international community. Hillary and Pelosi will be there applauding the decision of the POTUS because they also respect their man.

The low-information voters will eat this up. Obama was able to use common sense and restrain himself. He was able to keep us out of another conflict in the Middle East, unlike Bush and the Republicans who took us to Iraq and Afghanistan. Rachel Maddow will shed tears on her nightly show over the courage of Obama to keep Americans safe from another conflict. Chris Matthews will get another tingle up his leg and profess to be secretly in love with Obama.

This is all part of a grand strategy to prop up Obama and to heap praise on the level-minded Democrats who voted against another conflict in that region. And, of course, the liberal Jewish population was spared an attack from the al-Assad regime and the Iranians…all in time for the 2014 midterm campaigns to begin. Extremely clever,I say

metroryder on September 5, 2013 at 10:49 PM

bluefox on September 5, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Good. BOR is such a bore and a tellyhole.

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 9:07 PM

He’s also an arrogant gas bag:-) I stopped watching him when he had Carl Cameron on lying about Sarah Palin and O’Reilly never said a word.

bluefox on September 5, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Rep. Alan Grayson: Syria Intelligence Manipulated (To Favour War)

Resist We Much on September 5, 2013 at 8:59 PM

It was quite a surprise to read that. Grayson? He almost sounds like a Conservative.

bluefox on September 5, 2013 at 11:20 PM

but this culture of rebel barbarians don’t doesn’t care about human life…sorry

metroryder on September 5, 2013 at 11:31 PM

a little research in Wikipedia and you find Qatar. these are obviously tricky waters….with people with strong interests in the region. Barry is going to get us burned on this.

r keller on September 5, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Talk about attacking Syria & most likely removing Assad is about 2 things. Oil & Natural Gas. Qatar has spent 3 billion supporting the terrorists against Assad.

Saudis, Qatar, Assad, Russia, Turkey and Iran are the big players for now. Those 6 are not in agreement tho about the Oil & Gas Pipelines. Not sure which group Obama has sided with.

The chemical weapon talk is just the excuse to cover up the reason. Any lies and ignorant comments by Kerry and others supporting this will do since they can’t tell the truth!

This is Libya & Egypt, but much more at stake.

bluefox on September 5, 2013 at 11:46 PM

Egypt, Libya, Syria. I am beginning to suspect that these are wars of conquest, but not in the traditional sense. It seems that Obama is promoting a radical muslim takeover of the entire region. Finally, he has found a moral justification and is running with it.

No leader can fight a war without the support of the people.

Jocundus on September 5, 2013 at 9:12 PM

You make a couple of good points. I agree the objective in Libya & Egypt as you say. The Syria issue is about Oil & Gas.

I’ll have to disagree with you tho about fighting a war without the support of the people. Libya & Egypt are two examples. The players involved don’t care about the people at all, just their objectives.

bluefox on September 6, 2013 at 12:06 AM

NO BLOOD FOR OIL Mr. Heinz-Kerry!!!!

Ask him about the Qatar pipeline that they want to run through Syria!!

Ask him about Gazprom, Israel, what about the pipeline Iran wants to build through Syria?

Lurch and the rest of the Ruling Class (both parties) ARE LYING TOO US!!!!

No Americans fighting in Syria for Oil (or Natural Gas/LNG).

PappyD61 on September 5, 2013 at 9:53 PM

Obama goes to war to keep those bloody Canadians from building a pipeline through Nebraska.

When was the last time a Canadian used chemical weapons, or attacked an American embassy?

But there’s not enough Canadians who share our President’s self-proclaimed Muslim faith, so he’s looking for friends in Syria. Inch’Allah.

Steve Z on September 6, 2013 at 12:33 AM

If you’re a Southern white guy (as I am), then you’re even more screwed. Because that makes you accountable for slavery and racism.

Happy Nomad on September 5, 2013 at 9:04 PM

All whites are held accountable for slavery and racism. (Unlike the rest of the human race, which gets a pass.)

That’s why “anti-racist” is a codeword for anti-white.

David Blue on September 6, 2013 at 1:24 AM

This has nothing to do with Iraq as far as I’m concerned. I trusted that administration, I don’t trust this one.

scalleywag on September 5, 2013 at 9:17 PM

I trusted that administration too. Until I realized:

1. The people we were “helping” approved of deadly attacks on Americans by a massive majority. So why should we help them?

2. The same “friendly, moderate” Muslims were destroying Christian communities in Iraq, and the Bush administration was saying nothing, because the price of getting along with “moderate, friendly” Muslims is the destruction of Christianity. And again, why should we help these people?

3. Throughout the “Global War on Terror” the Bush administration continued to support mass immigration, including of Muslims. So what is the point of saying “we have to fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them here”? We’re bringing them here!

The Global War on Terror, under whatever names, is a fraud and it always was.

Everybody who dies under American strikes in Syria will be dying for a lie, the same old lie that’s been propagated from Bush on. Islam means peace – we just need to support the friendly, moderate Muslims and everything will be good, no matter how many Muslims we import. No it won’t. It won’t be all right at all.

David Blue on September 6, 2013 at 1:47 AM

It’ll get worse if we don’t intervene

Maybe they’ll start cutting off heads and posting video on the internet. Kerry was in Iraq during his presidential campaign while the internet beheadings were happening and he said something almost exactly like ‘This is why we need to leave now, this is horrifying’. He gave it as the specific reason why we needed to leave. There is no way he can have anything to do with an occupation mission after that. His enemy would just need to do the internet beheadings and he’d have to explain why he’s not pulling out, but everyone would understand that he is the reason why it’s happening.

He was running like an Olympic sprinter away from the building that flight 93 was headed toward after he heard the attacks had begun. Not that he was in on that, but I suspect he would have have been personally warned. He has been a hero of al qaeda ever since the Balkans War and the Islamification of Kosovo back in the 90s.

Buddahpundit on September 6, 2013 at 2:43 AM

Speaking of, I still have yet to see a single troll on any of these Syria threads. I could have missed it. Why aren’t they here defending all the ‘humanitarian’ progressives with war-boners?

Firefly_76 on September 5, 2013 at 9:41 PM

BrainFree attempted to change the subject to Iraq on one thread yesterday. Other than that, crickets.

dogsoldier on September 6, 2013 at 5:54 AM

Issue: Truth vs John “Lurch” Kerry

Who would have ever believed they’d someday be siding with Alan GraysonD-FL)? On this issue he is doing a good job.

BigSven on September 6, 2013 at 5:56 AM

Kerry and Obama have successfully neutralized every criticism they have ever had about Bush/Iraq. All of the 2004/2008 campaign BS where they slammed Bush they are now using as their own justification.

Wood Dragon on September 6, 2013 at 7:26 AM

They are al Qaeda, Horseface. My take.

kingsjester on September 6, 2013 at 7:35 AM

So if we get involved the “rebels” will suddenly play nice? Huh? How sad is it that I almost trust the Russian president more than our own.

Minnfidel on September 6, 2013 at 7:40 AM

I have agreed with both Dennis Kucinich and Alan Grayson within the space of a week. Surreal.

Firefly_76 on September 5, 2013 at 9:23 PM

I’ll add Vlad Putin to the list.

rrpjr on September 5, 2013 at 9:26 PM

And Alan Colmes

Rachel? Keith? Chrissie? (yeah, I know, opposing Obama is racist)

virgo on September 6, 2013 at 8:16 AM

David Blue on September 6, 2013 at 1:47 AM

Well said.

DrMagnolias on September 6, 2013 at 8:16 AM

Who’s ready for another pivot back to jobs?

daddytype on September 6, 2013 at 8:28 AM

The administration’s selling this war simultaneously as something modest to attract doves (just a limited attack to enforce the international taboo against WMD) and something ambitious to attract hawks (a game-changing operation to alter the momentum on the battlefield).

This is how they sell everything. All extremes are covered.

Think back to the obamacare push. If we liked our doctors and plans, we would be allowed (!) to keep them (lie). The cost will go down so much it’s mathematically impossible to calculate (-3000%? Lie). Everyone in the country will have perfect coverage (obviously a lie, even at the time, yet people bought it).

This is simply how they work. But the pattern should be familiar. Remember how arafat used to say one thing in english that made him sound oh so reasonable to western ears, then turned around and said things in arabic that made him sound like the prophet reborn.

But these guys are doing it all in the same language, sometimes in the same speech. The contempt they have for the average intelligence of their audience (us) is appalling, and yet it just keeps working for them.

If you’re a football coach, you keep running the same play until the defense figures out how to stop it. In our case, there is no defense.

runawayyyy on September 6, 2013 at 8:37 AM

Why do we care? A pox on all their houses. I did not support Bush going into Iraq, but finally did after we were committed and the libs went nuts (just to oppose and frustrate the libs). Unless we want to use these interventions as training exercises to keep our troops’ combat skills nicely honed, we should get out of the middle east and stop being Janissaries for the Moslem chieftans.

Old Country Boy on September 6, 2013 at 8:50 AM

It seems pretty obvious by now that all those Botox injections Kerry has been getting are finally making their way into his brain cells.

pilamaye on September 6, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Evidently we’re going to find, or build, one and then somehow elevate it to prominence over battle-tested jihadi outfits like the Nusra Front.

All without BOOTS ON THE GROUND!

That is the magic of Obama. You don’t have to actually live in reality, just in the media spun fantasy land.

GardenGnome on September 6, 2013 at 9:22 AM

Hayes makes a good point towards the end of the clip. The administration’s selling this war simultaneously as something modest to attract doves (just a limited attack to enforce the international taboo against WMD) and something ambitious to attract hawks (a game-changing operation to alter the momentum on the battlefield).

Which is in one way how it got Russia and China to support limited strikes in Libya, for humanitarian reasons.

Once the US, France, and Britain got their support in the UN they ignored the limitations and went far beyond what they said they would do, with the objective of toppling Gadaffi.

Russia and China believe they were duped and lied to. Which is at least one of the reasons why they would veto any use of force Syrian resolution in the UN instead of abstaining.

Now Dear Leader and his merry band of duplicitous liars and incompetents are trying to use a similar lie, bait, and switch strategy on the American people and Congress, while winking an eye at RINO hawks like McCain. Do they really think they are fooling anyone? I guess they have gotten away with lying so much it has become reflexive. The MSM never really calls them on it.

farsighted on September 6, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Throughout the “Global War on Terror” the Bush administration continued to support mass immigration, including of Muslims. So what is the point of saying “we have to fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them here”? We’re bringing them here!

Exactly. There is a mssive rise in large domestic terror attacks and small ones like rapes of infidels, honor killings, and attacking people who criticise Islam.

Islam is the problem in Syria, Egypt, Libya, Iraq, the USA, France, the UK, and everywhere Islam goes, violence and chaos follow….forever.

GardenGnome on September 6, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Any GOP congressman that votes for this should be primaried.Doesn’t matter if the challenger has a ghost of a chance.They need to be embarrassed,and harassed.

redware on September 6, 2013 at 9:37 AM

I know for years now I’ve suffered the cadence of candidates convinced American comprehension is sub middle school. But is it possible Kerry believes the DHS has already doped this country’s water supply?
I know paranoid, sure, but my pur filter is fresh and I’m just wondering; does anyone out there see anything rational in the actions of our ruling class at this time? If so, when was the last time you changed your water filter?
Please don’t reply to just one question.

onomo on September 6, 2013 at 9:51 AM

Before it’s over Kerry will have come out for this before he came out against it…

shinty on September 6, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Real warriors don’t seek get out of combat purple hearts for superficial flesh wounds. Sorry Kerry, your 4 months of service in Vietnam defined you. Sending kids to their deaths in Syria won’t make you a warrior or patriot. You are a treasonous punk. With nice hair. Wear those medals you threw over the fence if it makes you feel more like a man.

Basilsbest on September 6, 2013 at 10:21 AM

metroryder on September 5, 2013 at 10:49 PM

^^^This.^^^

This was never about chem weapons, or islamo-fascists or spending money or oil or any of that BS; This is about a political strategy…and this administration has whooped ASS on the Repubs, and will continue to do so at their leisure.

Watch and see if, in about three months, the words Metroryder don’t show up almost verbatim in the lap-dog press.

While the ‘R’s sit, blank-faced and doe-eyed in front of CNN while some scummy liberal “journalist” is allowed to ask, “Why did you vote to take us into yet another war? Aren’t you lucky that Calm, Wise, All-knowing President Obama and his Angelic Democrat Choir voted to keep us out of another Iraq Quagmire?”

The Left are evil. Pure and Simple. They have a plan, and people had better wake up to it, before all the non-believers start getting loaded onto boxcars headed for the new camps.

a5minmajor on September 6, 2013 at 10:24 AM

Douche.

Hucklebuck on September 6, 2013 at 10:33 AM

This was never about chem weapons, or islamo-fascists or spending money or oil or any of that BS; This is about a political strategy…and this administration has whooped ASS on the Repubs, and will continue to do so at their leisure.

Watch and see if, in about three months, the words Metroryder don’t show up almost verbatim in the lap-dog press.

While the ‘R’s sit, blank-faced and doe-eyed in front of CNN while some scummy liberal “journalist” is allowed to ask, “Why did you vote to take us into yet another war? Aren’t you lucky that Calm, Wise, All-knowing President Obama and his Angelic Democrat Choir voted to keep us out of another Iraq Quagmire?”

The Left are evil. Pure and Simple. They have a plan, and people had better wake up to it, before all the non-believers start getting loaded onto boxcars headed for the new camps.

a5minmajor on September 6, 2013 at 10:24 AM

I am happy to see some are paying attention to this charade the POTUS and his followers are putting on for the American people, especially the mainstream media and press. Already, there is a story out that claims the POTUS will not take military action against Syria if Congress votes him down…duh. And there is another story circulating about Pelosi enforcers wobbling on Syria. What a grand strategy on the part of Obama and his administration!

BREAKING NEWS: The Obama administration played it safe, wise and courageous, while protecting embassies around the world from emtremists threats. In addition, Obama took his case to the American people and promised to listen. He followed the will of the majority of Americans and decided to seek a negotiated settlement through talks with the al-Assad regime and the rebels. While hardline hawks such as McCain, Boehner and others in the Republican party pushed for military action, more level-headed Dems chose to respect the President’s final decision. This would include Pelosi, Biden, Kerry and other moderate Democrats.

metroryder on September 6, 2013 at 10:58 AM

Kerry is the perfect Secretary of State for this inept and incoherent foreign policy…

Pest on September 6, 2013 at 11:10 AM

bluefox on September 6, 2013 at 12:06 AM

You are correct about oil & gas. Syria may be a resource war for some, but I am not convinced that is Obama’s primary objective. I stand corrected, and should have said ‘win a war without the support of the people.’ Libya and Egypt are a disaster, and America has won nothing. This is now catching up with the administration.

Jocundus on September 6, 2013 at 11:37 AM

“…moderate elements… Evidently we’re going to find, or build, one and then somehow elevate it to prominence over battle-tested jihadi outfits like the Nusra Front.”

Cruise Missles can do that!? Hot Dang!

Tsar of Earth on September 6, 2013 at 12:00 PM

That is the magic of Obama. You don’t have to actually live in reality, just in the media spun fantasy land.

GardenGnome on September 6, 2013 at 9:22 AM

Welll, heyyy – he stopped the seas from rising, didn’t he????
He’s just a magical kinda guy….

dentarthurdent on September 6, 2013 at 1:03 PM

It’ll get worse if we don’t intervene

I could come up with something snarky to say…

David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog 4 Sep

If we don’t send the American military to help Al Qaeda, then the terrorists will have won. #itscometothis

But I’ll steal snark from someone more clever instead.

gekkobear on September 6, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Can someone explain to me what has happened to Kerry’s head?

He used to look so much like Lurch that he earned the nickname “Lurch.”

But to be honest, he doesn’t look like Lurch anymore. Now he looks like the Incredible Hulk in “anger” mode, but after a lobotomy.

What the hell happened? Did he walk into a plastic surgeon’s office and say,
“Doc, I look like Lurch. Can you help me?”

And when the Doc replied, “Sure — for just twenty thousands bucks, I can make you look like a lobotomized Incredible Hulk.”

Kerry: “To whom do I make out the check?”

Zombie on September 6, 2013 at 6:20 PM

How ’bout we just bomb both sides and see if anyone’s left to assume power. Or, if they really want another dictator to take over, we could send them one in about 3 years.

Kissmygrits on September 6, 2013 at 9:30 PM

This traitor lied about US behavior in Vietnam. Not going to trust anything he says.

AshleyTKing on September 6, 2013 at 9:40 PM

John “LBJ” Kerry is horrible reasoner, a shameless sychophant, and eager albeit rather poor liar. On the other hand, he and his wife are charming when dining with the man he calls “Hitler.”

kunegetikos on September 6, 2013 at 10:13 PM

Serious question. Would anyone listen to this baying turd if he were shiny bald?

Mason on September 5, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Don’t you mean “braying turd”

73(Best Regards)

hamradio on September 8, 2013 at 1:15 AM

Heh. Someone believes sorry-arsed former candidate Kerry, who couldn’t tell the difference between a PT boat and a Swift boat, nor to whom he owed allegiance: Vietnamese Communists or his own countrymen (while wearing a U.S. uniform).

trl on September 9, 2013 at 6:33 AM

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